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Pros and Cons for keeping my FT 817ND
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I have too many entry level radios (last count was 7) and I'm trying to decide the pros and cons of keeping my Yaesu FT817ND.? Installed is the Yaesu TCXO-9 and an Inrad 500 hz cw filter.? Also installed is the windcamp battery.? Most of the time I use an external battery.
For what its worth I also have the following: Icom 718, 706mk2G, 7200.? Yaesu ft 857D and ft 891.? Also have an Elecraft kx3. Decisions decisions? Andrew KD5CQ? |
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Hi Andrew, Tough decision, you've got a fine bunch of equipment indeed. You were lucky and smart to get the inrad filter, I got one too for my 21 year old original ft817.. still puts out full power from original finals. The KX3 has a magnificent receiver but isn't very rugged like the 817....my suggestion for what it's worth, don't part with your 817ND! Hope to catch you on the band's, vy73 to the group.? ?Rick? VE1RNM On Sun., Apr. 3, 2022, 4:49 p.m. Andrew Bounds, <abounds5@...> wrote: I have too many entry level radios (last count was 7) and I'm trying to decide the pros and cons of keeping my Yaesu FT817ND.? Installed is the Yaesu TCXO-9 and an Inrad 500 hz cw filter.? Also installed is the windcamp battery.? Most of the time I use an external battery. |
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Sell it to a new ham Technician.? Win, win, profit. 73 KC1ENN
On Sunday, April 3, 2022, 04:27:55 PM EDT, VE1RNM <rickmoskovits@...> wrote:
Hi Andrew, Tough decision, you've got a fine bunch of equipment indeed. You were lucky and smart to get the inrad filter, I got one too for my 21 year old original ft817.. still puts out full power from original finals. The KX3 has a magnificent receiver but isn't very rugged like the 817....my suggestion for what it's worth, don't part with your 817ND! Hope to catch you on the band's, vy73 to the group.? ?Rick? VE1RNM On Sun., Apr. 3, 2022, 4:49 p.m. Andrew Bounds, <abounds5@...> wrote: I have too many entry level radios (last count was 7) and I'm trying to decide the pros and cons of keeping my Yaesu FT817ND.? Installed is the Yaesu TCXO-9 and an Inrad 500 hz cw filter.? Also installed is the windcamp battery.? Most of the time I use an external battery. |
开云体育Ic-7200 model rather rare now. I have one, just happened to buy it for the short time it was available. Use it on my sailboat? Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: VE1RNM <rickmoskovits@...> Date: 4/3/22 16:27 (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [ft817] Pros and Cons for keeping my FT 817ND Hi Andrew, Tough decision, you've got a fine bunch of equipment indeed. You were lucky and smart to get the inrad filter, I got one too for my 21 year old original ft817.. still puts out full power from original finals. The KX3 has a magnificent receiver but isn't very rugged like the 817....my suggestion for what it's worth, don't part with your 817ND! Hope to catch you on the band's, vy73 to the group.? ?Rick? VE1RNM On Sun., Apr. 3, 2022, 4:49 p.m. Andrew Bounds, <abounds5@...> wrote: I have too many entry level radios (last count was 7) and I'm trying to decide the pros and cons of keeping my Yaesu FT817ND.? Installed is the Yaesu TCXO-9 and an Inrad 500 hz cw filter.? Also installed is the windcamp battery.? Most of the time I use an external battery. |
开云体育FT857's discontinued as well. Have one NIB, never used. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Andrew Bounds <abounds5@...> Date: 4/3/22 15:49 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [ft817] Pros and Cons for keeping my FT 817ND For what its worth I also have the following: Icom 718, 706mk2G, 7200.? Yaesu ft 857D and ft 891.? Also have an Elecraft kx3. Decisions decisions? Andrew KD5CQ? |
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Andrew, I also have too many rigs although been told many times one cannot, hi. Of the rigs you listed I also have some.? I would keep the IC7200 and KX3.? The IC718 is very good starter rig, but old tech.? FT891 and IC7200 about the same except for size.? I have both, but prefer the IC7200. but FT891 would be excellent HF mobile, only reason to have it.? Both are IF DSP so can setup IF filters.? FT857 is old tech, but also would be good mobile, does about all one needs in a mobile, HF-440 MHz. If keep IC7200 and KX3 would have good 100W HF rig and KX3 for QRP, probably one of the best QRP rigs. Just my opinion. 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC BSEE Micro Computer Concepts Spring Hill, Florida 146.64 repeater, 1100 ft HAAT 352-835-5610 also n9ee55@...
On Sunday, April 3, 2022, 04:59:04 PM EDT, R.J. Bowen via groups.io <captrjbowen@...> wrote:
FT857's discontinued as well. Have one NIB, never used. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Andrew Bounds <abounds5@...> Date: 4/3/22 15:49 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [ft817] Pros and Cons for keeping my FT 817ND For what its worth I also have the following: Icom 718, 706mk2G, 7200.? Yaesu ft 857D and ft 891.? Also have an Elecraft kx3. Decisions decisions? Andrew KD5CQ? |
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Thanks for the suggestion Charles.? I think the IC 718 might be a better fit for a new ham but thanks. On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 3:55 PM Charles Webb via <kc1enn=[email protected]> wrote:
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开云体育You asked for Pros and Cons regarding the FT-817:The FT-817, with its small display, will alert you to developing eye problems when you can't see the display, and you'll get a heads-up of cognitive decline when you find yourself looking for a nifty manual or the Yaesu manual to change an obscure setting on the radio. As for Cons, well, it's very mature technology, well-known and respected. It's a magical combination of compromises and features, but it's fundamental design is what, 15-20 years old now? You've got newer radios with DSP and other modern features, I'd say let the FT-817 go to a new home and spend some more time with your other radios. (If there was some feature/aspect of the FT-817 that was very important to you, you likely never would have sent this question to the reflector!) Good luck with your decision, Ken, N2VIP On Apr 3, 2022, at 14:49, Andrew Bounds <abounds5@...> wrote:
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Hi Group:
I have an 817, KX1 and KX3. ?I like them all, but if I had to pick just one as a "desert island" rig...I think I'd keep the 817 because of it's extended band coverage... even though it is missing 60 meters. ?I'm not interested in 60, so that does not bother me. ?Truth be known, most of the time I use my KX3 for HF operating. ?It would be a tough choice just to pick one and the KX3 would be a close second... or possibly the winner, based on it's receiver and roofing filter.
The 817 is really a "does it all" rig.. multi-mode, multi-band, and only needs a 10 volt power supply for five watts.
73 de Ray
K2ULR
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I have no intention of giving up my ft817nd.? Spring is here, mobile time, propagation is finally good.? so looking forward to a little mobile travel time once mud season ends.
On Sunday, April 3, 2022, 06:45:32 PM EDT, Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:
You asked for Pros and Cons regarding the FT-817: The FT-817, with its small display, will alert you to developing eye problems when you can't see the display, and you'll get a heads-up of cognitive decline when you find yourself looking for a nifty manual or the Yaesu manual to change an obscure setting on the radio. As for Cons, well, it's very mature technology, well-known and respected. It's a magical combination of compromises and features, but it's fundamental design is what, 15-20 years old now? You've got newer radios with DSP and other modern features, I'd say let the FT-817 go to a new home and spend some more time with your other radios. (If there was some feature/aspect of the FT-817 that was very important to you, you likely never would have sent this question to the reflector!) Good luck with your decision, Ken, N2VIP On Apr 3, 2022, at 14:49, Andrew Bounds <abounds5@...> wrote:
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开云体育Hi, all. I have had a number of rigs
over my 65 years of activity. I have contested, My FT-817ND has 60 meters. I
have found, most rigs usually needed some The biggest draw back with my
FT-817ND is the small display. I bought one of When I buy a rig, the
receiver's abilities are the top specifications, actually
measured Brand wise, Yaesu #1, TenTec #2. I care very little about the
bells & whistles crap. I just need a display I can I am hopeful the IF DSP
technology will be successful in replacing them, but I often read about how great
someone's rig is, but they fail to tell that they are using When you have big antennas, you
get BIG signals and your rig's RX needs to I hope this helps someone with buying another rig. 73, Joe, K8JP/K5 On 4/3/2022 6:06 PM, Raymond Sills via
groups.io wrote:
Hi Group: -- Regards, Joe, K8JP/V31JP, Ronnie, Martin & Sidney Pontek 175 Diamond Loch Rd., Apt. 5 Gilmer, TX 75644-9374 U.S.A. 903-204-2318 (My TX cellular) Member FOC-1743 Feb 2001, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, CFO 1055, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, SOC 1075, 10-10 22977, PG1915841, CW Rag chewers #21, Facebook: Joe Pontek |
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Thanks for your comments Rick.? I do like the sturdiness of the 817.? I have everything in a backpack so I can easily take it with me.? The kx3 requires more TLC.? I have it in a nanuk case, as well as a power supply and an external power speaker.? Thanks again. Andrew KD5CQ? On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 3:27 PM VE1RNM <rickmoskovits@...> wrote:
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Thanks Ron.? I have the 7200 set up as my primary HF rig and an IC2300h for VHF.? My backup rig is the Ic 706 mk2g.? The 706 doesn't have the extensive filtering of the 7200 but I do have a 1.9khz SSB filter and a 350 hz cw filter installed to help.? Thanks again. On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 5:28 PM Ron Wright via <lt_wright_flg=[email protected]> wrote:
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Thanks Ken.? The screen is of some concern since I turn 75 this month but hopefully my new glasses will help.? I did get the FT 891 to use mobile..but haven't installed it yet. The 7200 is my primary HF rig and the 706 is a backup.? The kx3 might work better in a fixed portable environment (maybe POTA or Field day) as opposed to SOTA. Thanks On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 5:45 PM Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:
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开云体育Hi Ron, ? Don’t you know that “He who dies with the most radios, wins!”? ? 73….Eric VK2VE. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ron Wright via groups.io
Sent: Monday, 4 April 2022 08:28 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ft817] Pros and Cons for keeping my FT 817ND ? Andrew, ? I also have too many rigs although been told many times one cannot, hi. ? Of the rigs you listed I also have some.? I would keep the IC7200 and KX3.? The IC718 is very good starter rig, but old tech.? FT891 and IC7200 about the same except for size.? I have both, but prefer the IC7200. but FT891 would be excellent HF mobile, only reason to have it.? Both are IF DSP so can setup IF filters.? FT857 is old tech, but also would be good mobile, does about all one needs in a mobile, HF-440 MHz. ? If keep IC7200 and KX3 would have good 100W HF rig and KX3 for QRP, probably one of the best QRP rigs. ? Just my opinion. ? 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC BSEE Micro Computer Concepts Spring Hill, Florida 352-835-5610 also n9ee55@... ? ? On Sunday, April 3, 2022, 04:59:04 PM EDT, R.J. Bowen via groups.io <captrjbowen@...> wrote: ? ? FT857's discontinued as well. Have one NIB, never used. ? ? ? Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone ? ? -------- Original message -------- From: Andrew Bounds <abounds5@...> Date: 4/3/22 15:49 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [ft817] Pros and Cons for keeping my FT 817ND ? I have too many entry level radios (last count was 7) and I'm trying to decide the pros and cons of keeping my Yaesu FT817ND.? Installed is the Yaesu TCXO-9 and an Inrad 500 hz cw filter.? Also installed is the windcamp battery.? Most of the time I use an external battery. |
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Its a keeper unless you need to sell it to buy life saving medicine.
Small display will not get damaged like the big display on 705 Easy to slide into backpack facing up or use shoulder strap I have made 1000s of contacts on it and its an awesome portable/travel radio but yeah the cw filter is MUST. The ssb filter isnt as useful I have found Guys are selling handhelds for $300 so more value in a $300 hf radio I think John ve3ips I have a 817 and 818 and too many other radios Sent with a Palm Pilot.
Radio: it's not just a hobby, it's a way of life Throw a wire in a tree and go make QSO Rice Crackers taste better while outdoors FT8 tap tap is not Ham Radio -- John VE3IPS Radio is a Lifestyle not a Hobby Oprah added the ARRL Handbook to her list |
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Good morning,?
? ? I’m on my 2nd Ft-817nd. I found it to be the most versatile radio for the types of operating I enjoy. It’s not my only rig. But, it gets the most use. There are compromises any way you go and nothing will do it all perfectly. But, dollar for dollar, the
817 does very well. Not playing to the audience here, just a fact. There is no way a product has this much longevity and a revision without checking a lot of boxes.?
? ? When this one goes, I’ll buy a 818. The menus aren’t that bad once you become familiar.?
? ? I’m currently in an apartment. I didn’t have to give up hf or ham radio in general because of the temporary move.?
? ? Your mileage may vary. I’m just a very satisfied customer.?
Mike N4MDP?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric van de Weyer <groups.io@...>
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 1:34:59 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ft817] Pros and Cons for keeping my FT 817ND ?
Hi Ron, ? Don’t you know that “He who dies with the most radios, wins!”? ? 73….Eric VK2VE. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Ron Wright via groups.io ? Andrew, ? I also have too many rigs although been told many times one cannot, hi. ? Of the rigs you listed I also have some.? I would keep the IC7200 and KX3.? The IC718 is very good starter rig, but old tech.? FT891 and IC7200 about the same except for size.? I have both, but prefer the IC7200. but FT891 would be excellent HF mobile, only reason to have it.? Both are IF DSP so can setup IF filters.? FT857 is old tech, but also would be good mobile, does about all one needs in a mobile, HF-440 MHz. ? If keep IC7200 and KX3 would have good 100W HF rig and KX3 for QRP, probably one of the best QRP rigs. ? Just my opinion. ? 73, ron, n9ee/r Ron Wright, N9EE/R Hernando Co ARES EC BSEE Micro Computer Concepts Spring Hill, Florida 352-835-5610 also n9ee55@... ? ? On Sunday, April 3, 2022, 04:59:04 PM EDT, R.J. Bowen via groups.io <captrjbowen@...> wrote: ? ? FT857's discontinued as well. Have one NIB, never used. ? ? ? Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone ? ? -------- Original message -------- From: Andrew Bounds <abounds5@...> Date: 4/3/22 15:49 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [ft817] Pros and Cons for keeping my FT 817ND ? I have too many entry level radios (last count was 7) and I'm trying to decide the pros and cons of keeping my Yaesu FT817ND.? Installed is the Yaesu TCXO-9
and an Inrad 500 hz cw filter.? Also installed is the windcamp battery.? Most of the time I use an external battery. |
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Chip K2KJD
Great question. Bottom line…sell 817. KX2 and KX3 SOTA activators in western NC more often have KX 2/3 radios on activations and you already have a KX3 - few 817’s used on SOTA.?With your 891 and 857 you’ve got the power for HF portable and if 2M is important to you take $30 from the proceeds of the sale of the 817 and buy a Baofeng, and build a J-Pole for those few times you want 2 on a POTA/SOTA trip. You probably have a 2M rig in the car already. KX3 has more operating features than 817 making it more versatile. With your inventory of radios I can’t see what operating capabilities you would lose sellin’ the 817. |
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Thanks Chip.? The key takeaway I found interesting from your comments was the one saying:?
I can’t see what operating capabilities you would lose sellin’ the 817.And your right about 2 meters in the car and I have two handhelds covering two meters as well.? My biggest problem is that I, unfortunately, get attached to my equipment and find it difficult to give up.? I know I will sell the IC 718 but I'm not sure about the others.? ? Which is why I posted the?question.? Looking for reasons, like yours, to help push me in the right direction.? Thanks again for your input. Andrew KD5CQ On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 11:20 AM Chip K2KJD <dbs@...> wrote:
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Well said John, the 817/818 is a lifesaver, built like a tank, the finals are cheap and easily replaced, but I suspect that if the operator removes the battery pack when not in use, and uses a reasonably resonant antenna, you will never join the blown finals club, I haven't and 21 years later since I received mine from radioworld ...just my opinion,? Vy73, Rick VE1RNM On Mon., Apr. 4, 2022, 9:20 a.m. John, <ve3ips@...> wrote: Its a keeper unless you need to sell it to buy life saving medicine. |
John