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Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

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Is 817 Commander a better option than Pocket RxTx lite? Has anyone tried/used both?
Mike Davis WA1MAD

On Dec 23, 2024, at 12:22?PM, Toby Burnett via groups.io <ruffdog272@...> wrote:

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I've got a Bluetooth cat dongle plugs into 817. Like Jeff, can use 817 commander wireless for screen display and direct entry etc etc. Good for digimodes ptt too.
Toby MM0TOB?


Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

Well, when you ask a question on this group, you sure get some very interesting and helpful answers. I now have a CAT cable coming, an older Android phone repurposed with pocket RX TX loaded and awaiting the cable, AND a display on order from Ali Express. All this should keep me busy and confused for awhile. My only concern is that on a YouTube video, the display worked on an 857, and 897 but not the 817. We’ll see. Steve, KB1CHU, a nearby ham, has offered support to see what we will see. I’ve even thought that just maybe, my unused backup automotive camera might work. Thanks to all, for your suggestions.
Mike Davis WA1MAD


HNY25

 

Dears,
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I wish to all of you Happy Holidays and healthy year 2025!
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73 - Petr, OK1RP

FT-817ND | FT-818ND | FT-857D?


Re: FT-817 +DSP +new finals FOR SALE

 

搁别辫辞蝉迟颈苍驳…
Nice clean FT-817 (non D) FOR SALE
Includes:
* Ft-817. (Non D)
* New Final Amplifier board with new factory installed final transistors
* bhi NEDSP106 DSP super clean noise reduction
* Narrow CW filter (500Hz maybe 300Hz can’t remember)
* Collins Mechanical 2.3KHz SSB filter
* MH-31 Microphone with up/down & fast buttons
* Power Pole dc input adapter
* Wire Bail stand
* VHF/UHF Flexible Antenna BNC
* Stubby BNC VHF/UHF Antenna
* FT-817 Pack-It Reference Manual (this is the real bible)
* Nifty Mini-Manual
* Original Leather Case and Shoulder-Strap
Checked out 80 - 10 Meter HF and 2M/440MHz this evening. The 8-step bhi DSP noise reduction really shines with todays QRN.
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Lots of photos available.?
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Asking $825 insured & shipped USPS Priority Mail with tracking.
Postal money order or PayPal please.?
John Arnold, WA6YSY
Contact me off forum: ?johna@...
Will list on our favorite sale site in a couple weeks if no interest


Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 








73 de Matt, DH2LAB



Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

Julio EB4CUV and me designed a nice CAT display for FT817 which looks like an Icom705
Still some units available. But it is intended for V-UHF and microwaves use (along with the proper transverter)
Not for HF and also making exclusive use of the CAT port
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For more details check my QRZ.com page
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73 de Luis
EA5DOM


Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

I also bought a mini din bluetooth CAT device. It works well with RXTX and even with other PC applications. But I encountered a problem: when you turn off the FT-817ND the bluetooth device does not turn off, checked because its blue LED does not turn off, and continues to consume the equipment's battery. If you forget to disconnect it, you may find an irrecoverable battery.
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Jose - EA7GAH


Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

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Thanks Steve, I may not get it, since I keep getting messages that my order needs to be completed, yet another message that it’s o n it’s way. I think it’s a PayPal thing and really has been or is in process of being shipped. I also bought a mini din bluetooth CAT device to transmit to my Android device. I can then use RxTx app or the other one mentioned. I’m obviously totally out of control. My New Years resolution…”do nothing different”
Mike Davis WA1MAD

On Dec 24, 2024, at 10:09?AM, Steve Black KB1CHU via groups.io <kb1chu@...> wrote:

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I ordered one too and will try it. After it comes in We can get together and figure something out. I have both a 857 and 817 radios. dont? open yours till we see if it works as you may be able to return it. Steve kb1chu


Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

I ordered one too and will try it. After it comes in We can get together and figure something out. I have both a 857 and 817 radios. dont? open yours till we see if it works as you may be able to return it. Steve kb1chu


Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

It will hopefully work. The guy on YouTube couldn't get it to work. 857 and 897 worked. I also just ordered a bluetooth CAT device that works with the Android rx/tx app. Obviously, I'm out of control...lol Merry Christmas

Mike WA1MAD

On Dec 23, 2024 12:24 PM, Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:

The listings I see for 12864 displays list the three FT-8x7 radios as compatible, not just FT-857 or FT-817...

Ken, N2VIP

> On Dec 23, 2024, at 11:13?AM, Mike Davis via groups.io <maddmd818@...> wrote:
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> 12864







Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

The listings I see for 12864 displays list the three FT-8x7 radios as compatible, not just FT-857 or FT-817...

Ken, N2VIP

On Dec 23, 2024, at 11:13?AM, Mike Davis via groups.io <maddmd818@...> wrote:

12864


Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

I've got a Bluetooth cat dongle plugs into 817. Like Jeff, can use 817 commander wireless for screen display and direct entry etc etc. Good for digimodes ptt too.
Toby MM0TOB?


Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

I just watched a YouTube video on the 12864 display on an FT857, then an FT817. It worked on the 857 but not the 817. I should have watched the video before ordering yesterday. Grrrrr


Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

Hi Mike,
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I have used the FT817 commander android app with an old android tablet and an OTG cable.? It also works on the Z-817 tuner pass through.??
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73 de KA1DBE?
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https://ft-817-commander.updatestar.com/en


Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

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Ah, the tuner.? Yes, that can complicate things, but looking at the Z817 tuner manual the tuner has a "pass through" CAT port on the back.? You should be able to connect the display to that port - it looks like a computer to the tuner - with the tuner connected directly to the radio.? Just make sure all the BAUD rates line up - display, tuner, and radio.

Good luck!

Greg? KO6TH


Mike Davis via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Greg. I’m nowhere as talented as you in understanding ?the options. I do have a spare backup camera kit…hmmm. My other concern is that I’m using the CAT connection for the Z817 LDG tuner. So unless there is a way to use both devices together or an A-B switch, assuming baud rate etc are the same, it just complicates the radio. Maybe my pico LED front illumination idea is the easiest, if not very elegant.
Mike Davis WA1MAD

On Dec 21, 2024, at 1:27?PM, Greg D via groups.io <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:

? I've not used that particular product, but I don't think there's much more to know about it.? Connect it to the radio and get the two to talking.? The device just loops through fetching the parameters, displaying the information on the screen.? You probably want to cobble some sort of case for it, to protect the electronics.

I built something similar from a Raspberry Pi 3B.? I have the radio in my car, and as you can imagine it's impossible to read the display while driving.? But the car's in-dash radio display has an input for a back-up camera, so I wired the Pi's video out into that and wrote a short Python script to read the radio's frequency, mode, and such, displaying them on the screen.? The car's display is FAR more visible, and with the Pi I can run other radio-related apps such as YAAC for an APRS map.

Greg? KO6TH



Michael Davis via groups.io wrote:
Hi, my non ND 817 display is fine, but 2 color backlighting isn’t very helpful in low light. I see a $42.88 external CAT display device, 12864 on Ali Express, but very little info. I’m not skilled enough to do any mods, but a plug and play, inexpensive option would be nice. For now, I’m experimenting with an external, soft white, pico LED to illuminate the screen from the front. Kind of like a reading book light. Anyone using this or other device? Thanks



Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

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Thanks Greg. I’m nowhere as talented as you in understanding ?the options. I do have a spare backup camera kit…hmmm. My other concern is that I’m using the CAT connection for the Z817 LDG tuner. So unless there is a way to use both devices together or an A-B switch, assuming baud rate etc are the same, it just complicates the radio. Maybe my pico LED front illumination idea is the easiest, if not very elegant.
Mike Davis WA1MAD

On Dec 21, 2024, at 1:27?PM, Greg D via groups.io <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:

? I've not used that particular product, but I don't think there's much more to know about it.? Connect it to the radio and get the two to talking.? The device just loops through fetching the parameters, displaying the information on the screen.? You probably want to cobble some sort of case for it, to protect the electronics.

I built something similar from a Raspberry Pi 3B.? I have the radio in my car, and as you can imagine it's impossible to read the display while driving.? But the car's in-dash radio display has an input for a back-up camera, so I wired the Pi's video out into that and wrote a short Python script to read the radio's frequency, mode, and such, displaying them on the screen.? The car's display is FAR more visible, and with the Pi I can run other radio-related apps such as YAAC for an APRS map.

Greg? KO6TH



Michael Davis via groups.io wrote:
Hi, my non ND 817 display is fine, but 2 color backlighting isn’t very helpful in low light. I see a $42.88 external CAT display device, 12864 on Ali Express, but very little info. I’m not skilled enough to do any mods, but a plug and play, inexpensive option would be nice. For now, I’m experimenting with an external, soft white, pico LED to illuminate the screen from the front. Kind of like a reading book light. Anyone using this or other device? Thanks


Re: Larger/brighter Display option

 

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I've not used that particular product, but I don't think there's much more to know about it.? Connect it to the radio and get the two to talking.? The device just loops through fetching the parameters, displaying the information on the screen.? You probably want to cobble some sort of case for it, to protect the electronics.

I built something similar from a Raspberry Pi 3B.? I have the radio in my car, and as you can imagine it's impossible to read the display while driving.? But the car's in-dash radio display has an input for a back-up camera, so I wired the Pi's video out into that and wrote a short Python script to read the radio's frequency, mode, and such, displaying them on the screen.? The car's display is FAR more visible, and with the Pi I can run other radio-related apps such as YAAC for an APRS map.

Greg? KO6TH



Michael Davis via groups.io wrote:

Hi, my non ND 817 display is fine, but 2 color backlighting isn’t very helpful in low light. I see a $42.88 external CAT display device, 12864 on Ali Express, but very little info. I’m not skilled enough to do any mods, but a plug and play, inexpensive option would be nice. For now, I’m experimenting with an external, soft white, pico LED to illuminate the screen from the front. Kind of like a reading book light. Anyone using this or other device? Thanks


Larger/brighter Display option

 

Hi, my non ND 817 display is fine, but 2 color backlighting isn’t very helpful in low light. I see a $42.88 external CAT display device, 12864 on Ali Express, but very little info. I’m not skilled enough to do any mods, but a plug and play, inexpensive option would be nice. For now, I’m experimenting with an external, soft white, pico LED to illuminate the screen from the front. Kind of like a reading book light. Anyone using this or other device? Thanks


Re: FT817ND Front Panel PCB replacement - Blinking display

 

Hi Robin,
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Thanks for the response.
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Yes, I was trying to follow the alignment procedure from the service manual as far as I could.? I have a number of manuals but I'm using the one which covers all FT817, FT817ND, and FT818 which I presume is the most up to date (2019 - E137790K).? The older version doesn't seem to be any different (2005 - E137790B) which seems to be the one you are refering to.?
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The unlock signal (UL) is on pin 15 of J4002 and goes to the CPU on pin 17.? It arises at pin 1 on J2002 of the PLL unit and actually passes through pin 36 of J1008 on the main board.
I have tested continuity throughout its length and it seem to be fine.?
With the old front panel (which locks) this line is at 5v whereas with the new one it is at 25mV (essentially 0 v).? So I think the signal is getting through, but unfortunately the correct signal is not being produced.
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I think that I need to look at two sets of lines related to the PLL.? What I presume are frequency related FSTB, FD, FCK, and those that are phase related (maybe) PSTB, PD, PCK, and I guess in addition the VSTB (voltage?).? I am not clear on what these all do but I can compare them in the locked and unlocked state to see how they differ.? At least I may have more info to go on - how to interpret it or fix any problem is another matter.? I'll keep trying.
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Regards,
David
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Re: FT817ND Front Panel PCB replacement - Blinking display

 

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David,

1) Do you have a copy of the service manual? That's pretty much essential for what you are trying to do.

2) Given that the PLL, as noted below, seems to lock with the original front panel, that could indicate that the unlock signal (UL) on pin 18 of J4002 on the panel, sent from pin 33 of J1008 on the main board, is not getting through.

3) The PLL adjustments are covered on pages 16 & 17 of the service manual, and the circuit is very briefly described on page 12.

Good luck,

Robin, G8DQX

On 14/12/2024 14:47, David via groups.io wrote:

I have just replaced the front panel PCB on a friends FT817ND (Lot82).
I had called Yaesu UK and the told me that the board was compatible (CS1909409).
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It was a straightforward replacement except for desoldering the AF-SQL/RF pot.?
I had to snip the pins of the old connector to remove it but I do not believe that I damaged the pot and it seems to test ok.
On powering up the LCD screen display blinks and there is no audio.? I am able to change frequency, mode, etc and all buttons and dials seem to work.? However, the ?AF-SQL/RF pot does nothing.
Searching the web I am told that this is clasical of the PLL not locking.
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I plugged in the original board and this seems to lock (PLL wise).? I have no screen (reason for replacement) but using 'FT817 Commander' software I can 'see' the frequency, mode etc and all seems to be well on the receive front.? Audio is working.? The radio shuts down when I try to transmit but this may be RF getting in somewhere it shouldn't (the whole radio is out of its container).
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I obtained all the parameters from the service menu on the original board and programmed it into the new one hoping that this was the answer.? No difference.
I presumed that I would have to do a full alignment and I started this.? I did not get very far:-
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Reference Frequency Adjustment - No problem - freq and voltage fine.
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VCO VCV Adjustment - voltage wrong and not adjustable as PLL not locked.
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PLL "Unlock" Display alert - unplugging the Ref Unit the voltage is 5mV on J2002 (pin1) but no change in the display.? The voltage is 25mV with the unit replaced.
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2nd Local Adjustment - No problem
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3rd Local Adjustment - not possible as no transmit
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And thats as far as I got.
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Am I missing something?? Is this board really compatible?
Is there something specific that I need to alter (pot,menu item etc) to allow the PLL to lock.
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Any help gratefully received. Thanks.
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Best wishes,
David G7IBO
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