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Re: USER REPORT: DX, ANTENNAS (MP-1), ETC!!! Long Post...

[email protected]
 

Julian:

I'm curious when you say the MP1 won
Re: Help! Can't tune in 5hz segments on 2M FM?!!!

Stephen M. King
 

Hi Jacques,
It looks like you did indeed mean 5 kHz and not 5 Hz.
Check MENU #30 and make sure it is on 5 kHz.
Check to make sure that FST is not set (check for the running man on the
display).
73,
Stephen
W3SMK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacques VE3TSC" <jacques1@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FT817] Re: Help! Can't tune in 5hz segments on 2M FM?!!!


It was 0500 when I wrote the message and strangely I do get the 5 segment
working on SSB/CW but not AM/FM?!!!! I would to like to tune in between
the
stations for repeaters at such at .745. So not sure why it won't allow me
to tune there while on FM! Odd....

At 12:49 5/22/2001 +0000, you wrote:
Are you certain it happens on SSB? There is a setting (Menu item #4)
that (by default) disables the VFO dial on AM & FM -- use the SEL
knob instead.

P.S. -- I'm hoping you meant kilohertz; I can't imagine that 5Hz
would make much difference on AM or FM! ;)




--- In FT817@y..., jacques1@m... wrote:
I need aid in for a strange occurence. My 817 so far works great in
all manners except that I can't tune in 5 hz segments on 2M FM! It
will tune with 10 hz and more in the various settings offered in
the
setup menu. Problem is that even if I choose 5 or 2.5 and save that
option, the radio will only do 10 hz as the smallest increments
with
the SEL knob. The VFO is disabled and after looking thru the manual
several times, nothing appears to help out. Am I missing another
setting to have it work below 10 hz tunig steps? This event
happens in any mode (SSB, AM, etc) Any advice much appreciated.

Thank you,
Jacques VE3TSC


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Re: ATX query -- anyone tried it with the MP-1 radial kit?

[email protected]
 

I'm certainly not happier with it. I think most people have had to
jump through hoops to get the thing to work. I posted a question
about it on the Elecraft list today and three replies came back
saying I should try longer radials. I doubt if many people have done
A/B comparisons between the MP-1 and the ATX. I've certainly never
heard signals stronger on the MP-1 than the ATX, but perhaps if I
could get the thing reasonably matched to 50 ohms I would.

Julian, G4ILO

--- In FT817@y..., "Steve Howell" <AB8JC@y...> wrote:

Just wondering if there is something "magical" about the MP-1
radial
kit, since most folks seem to be so much happier with the MP-1 in
general.
Re: USER REPORT: DX, ANTENNAS (MP-1), ETC!!! Long Post...

[email protected]
 

Well, I spent USD 225 on the MP-1, 80m coil, tripod and telescopic
whip, plus about 40 quid on VAT and duty when it arrived, and I can't
use the thing at all. So I'm even more fed up.

Even without a counterpoise, the ATX works well enough for casual
listening around on the bands, which the FT-817 is handy for. It fits
handily on to the radio without needing a stand. It loads up with a
decent SWR on 10m - 17m using a 5m steel measuring tape I bought for
4 quid in the local hardware store. I can get a respectable SWR on
40m using the end-loaded wire counterpoise I made up, though I can't
say I've made any contacts on that band. I'm still having problems
with 20m though.

So I'm happier with the ATX than I am with the MP-1. Since the
antenna supplied by Yaesu isn't even any use for HF listening, it's
probably worth having for that reason alone.

But a dipole up even a few feet would probably work better. On the
Elecraft list there was a report today from a guy who made his first
contact with the K1 he built using a dipole laying on the ground. Who
knows whether an ATX or MP-1 works better than a dipole at ground
level? :-)

Julian, G4ILO

--- In FT817@y..., "David Perry" <david.perry3@v...> wrote:

Glad you said this. I concluded this a week orr so ago and feel
really fed
up that I spend fifty quid on my ATX. Suppose you have to try
though, to
find out the truth as it were. A dipole and a stick is what we
need. Even
alkabout we should use the ProAm stuff.

Don't like the ATX at all.


For Sale...one ATX 30 quid plus postage.

David G4YVM
was RE: Re: Wh Prfrms Btr: ATX/MP-1? now indoor Portable & cw

 

In response to the high-rise dweller query.

One night while cooking dinner and playing radio at the same time,
I found that sitting the rig on top of the refrigerator seemed
to really help. My QTH is in California MO and I worked a station
in the state of California. 59 both ways on 10M. You could hear
his jaw drop when I told him I was portable in the kitchen with
5 watts and a whip.

I am using the RS back of the set antenna with the two different
whips. I have no problem using it down to 20M. Most bands
no counterpoise is necessary. On 20M I find a resonant counterpoise
attached to the ground screw to be very beneficial.

I am fairly new with CW but have been working on getting comfortable
with the mode and increasing my speed. Last week at lunch I heard
a special event station from the Texas Star Party. I was having
no luck calling him on phone so I switched to CW and we continued
with him on SSB and me on CW. (One time I was glad for the 817's
lack of CW filter.) At the time I was also showing off ham radio
to a fellow technical co-worker.

The thing I love about CW is that it gets through with a minimum
of equipment. What lit my fire was as a tech I had been calling
CQ on 6M USB with no luck. The band was quiet. So just for grins
I threw out a CW CQ and lo and behold a station from Nebraska came
back to me. They were Q5 and weren't even moving the needle.

Anyway enough for now.

Hope to hear you all on the air, be it on phone, CW or psk31.

73,

Bryan ¨C k0emt
ATX query -- anyone tried it with the MP-1 radial kit?

 

Just wondering if there is something "magical" about the MP-1 radial
kit, since most folks seem to be so much happier with the MP-1 in
general.

I ordered an ATX at Dayton from WiMo -- I plan to play with NVIS
while backpacking.

BTW it was good to see folks at Dayton on Saturday.
Re: USER REPORT: DX, ANTENNAS (MP-1), ETC!!! Long Post...

[email protected]
 

Don't like the ATX at all.


For Sale...one ATX 30 quid plus postage
How much is 30 quid in US dollars???

Mike - N1EVH
n1evh@...
FT-817 Accessories in Japan

[email protected]
 

Well, I just couldn't resist when HRO dropped the price of the FT-817
to $639 at Dayton...I'm the proud owner of one the beasties now. Very
nice little rig.

All the vendors at Dayton were out of the accessories (CAT-62, CW
Filters, et cetera) on Sunday...

I'll be visiting Japan soon on business and will have 3-4 days to
myself. Checking out the ham shops in Akihabara is on my "must do"
list as of now.

Does anyone know if ham accessories are any cheaper there? How about
stuff like the Maldol antenna? I've been told that rigs are about the
same or a little more expensive.

73 ES GUD DX
Arlan W8OW
Re: Help! Can't tune in 5hz segments on 2M FM?!!!

Pres Waterman
 

It was 0500 when I wrote the message and strangely I do get the 5 segment
working on SSB/CW but not AM/FM?!!!! I would to like to tune in between
the
stations for repeaters at such at .745. So not sure why it won't allow me
to tune there while on FM! Odd....

Check the FM tuning step menu

.745 is a 5KHz channel ( or 15 KHz depending on your point of view )

Thanks

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!
Re: Help! Can't tune in 5hz segments on 2M FM?!!!

Jacques VE3TSC
 

It was 0500 when I wrote the message and strangely I do get the 5 segment working on SSB/CW but not AM/FM?!!!! I would to like to tune in between the stations for repeaters at such at .745. So not sure why it won't allow me to tune there while on FM! Odd....

At 12:49 5/22/2001 +0000, you wrote:
Are you certain it happens on SSB? There is a setting (Menu item #4)
that (by default) disables the VFO dial on AM & FM -- use the SEL
knob instead.

P.S. -- I'm hoping you meant kilohertz; I can't imagine that 5Hz
would make much difference on AM or FM! ;)




--- In FT817@y..., jacques1@m... wrote:
I need aid in for a strange occurence. My 817 so far works great in
all manners except that I can't tune in 5 hz segments on 2M FM! It
will tune with 10 hz and more in the various settings offered in
the
setup menu. Problem is that even if I choose 5 or 2.5 and save that
option, the radio will only do 10 hz as the smallest increments
with
the SEL knob. The VFO is disabled and after looking thru the manual
several times, nothing appears to help out. Am I missing another
setting to have it work below 10 hz tunig steps? This event
happens in any mode (SSB, AM, etc) Any advice much appreciated.

Thank you,
Jacques VE3TSC


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Re: Mods=Jumper 1 to 4, open 5

 

The reset is F + V/M + POWER ON
73, iw3hev

--- In FT817@y..., "Gregory W. Ratcliff" <gratcliff@p...> wrote:
Ok....in my haste I wasn't complete with the mods that
I performed:

Jumpers 1-4 are _closed_ (they were open)
Jumper 5 is _open_ (it was closed)
Jumpers 6-9? were left alone

I did the cpu reset by "hold F and power up".

Now looking at the photo's on the egroups files section
I see that 6-9 seem to be opened, were these opened by
individuals or were they factory open?

Thanks,

Greg
nz8r


-----Original Message-----
From: Elliott [mailto:edl@p...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:57 PM
To: FT817@y...
Subject: Re: [FT817] Mods again






I believe that it is necessary to do a micoprocessor reset after
changing
the
frequency pads to properly initialize the 817 to its
new configuration?!
Re: Loop antennae & Loft Openings

Pres Waterman
 

I'm going to have to request this thread go to simplex. There hasn't been a
mention of FT817 in about 10 go-rounds! <G>

Thanks

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!

----- Original Message -----
From: David Perry <david.perry3@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FT817] Re: Loop antennae & Loft Openings


Don't laugh at us guys, it's sad.

David
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Henn" <drhenn@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 5:59 PM
Subject: [FT817] Re: Loop antennae & Loft Openings


--- In FT817@y..., "Kanalz, Karl" <karl.kanalz@a...> wrote:
I agree..... loft openings in the United Kingdom are pretty small!

Karl K - W8TIF
Hi Karl,,

It matches the houses.
You probably could put the whole house I had in the U.K
through the loft hatch in my house here. ;-)

David KG6CIQ/M0DRH



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Re: USER REPORT: DX, ANTENNAS (MP-1), ETC!!! Long Post...

David Perry
 

Glad you said this. I concluded this a week orr so ago and feel really fed
up that I spend fifty quid on my ATX. Suppose you have to try though, to
find out the truth as it were. A dipole and a stick is what we need. Even
alkabout we should use the ProAm stuff.

Don't like the ATX at all.


For Sale...one ATX 30 quid plus postage.

David G4YVM

----- Original Message -----
From: <julian@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 3:56 PM
Subject: [FT817] Re: USER REPORT: DX, ANTENNAS (MP-1), ETC!!! Long Post...


Yes, this sounds interesting. I am increasingly coming to the opinion
that instead of spending $100's on compact whip antennas, we would
all be better off looking for an equally small lightweight telescopic
mast and spend $5 on a couple of bits of wire. Only those who insist
on being able to walk around while transmitting would find that
solution impractical. Those who can operate from forests won't even
need the mast...

Julian, G4ILO

--- In FT817@y..., Michael Babineau <michael.babineau@s...> wrote:

Julian :
What actually works very well is a 44 ft doublet fed with open wire
or 300
ohm ribbon. This particular length works well as a multi-band
antenna
because from 10-40m the lobes are all oriented in the same
direction.
I use one of these made out of 22 AWG wire along with a DK9SQ mast
and an
LDG QRP autotuner as my vacation setup and it works like a charm.
It is also
possible to operate 80 meters by shorting the ends of the ribbon
cable and
working it against a counterpoise. You may need to play with the
length of
the feedline to get a good match on all bands (80ft reportedly
works well).

The Norcal Doublet was essentially the same thing except the whole
antenna
feedline and all is made from computer ribbon cable (very light).

L.B. Cebik, W4RNL has some more information on this antenna on his
website
at www.cebik.com.

cheers
Michael VE3WMB



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Re: Mods again

Pres Waterman
 

I just got back from Dayton and jumpered the first four
jumpers, closed five, and left the others alone. In my
case the radio is not able to TX on any new frequencies.

Leave the fifth open

Thanks

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!
Re: Loop antennae & Loft Openings

David Perry
 

Don't laugh at us guys, it's sad.

David

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Henn" <drhenn@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 5:59 PM
Subject: [FT817] Re: Loop antennae & Loft Openings


--- In FT817@y..., "Kanalz, Karl" <karl.kanalz@a...> wrote:
I agree..... loft openings in the United Kingdom are pretty small!

Karl K - W8TIF
Hi Karl,,

It matches the houses.
You probably could put the whole house I had in the U.K
through the loft hatch in my house here. ;-)

David KG6CIQ/M0DRH



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Re: Loop antennae & Loft Openings

[email protected]
 

So are most lofts, some to that. :-)

Julian, G4ILO

--- In FT817@y..., "Kanalz, Karl" <karl.kanalz@a...> wrote:

I agree..... loft openings in the United Kingdom are pretty small!

Karl K - W8TIF
McKinney, Texas
Re: Mods=Jumper 1 to 4, open 5

Gregory W. Ratcliff
 

Ok....in my haste I wasn't complete with the mods that
I performed:

Jumpers 1-4 are _closed_ (they were open)
Jumper 5 is _open_ (it was closed)
Jumpers 6-9? were left alone

I did the cpu reset by "hold F and power up".

Now looking at the photo's on the egroups files section
I see that 6-9 seem to be opened, were these opened by
individuals or were they factory open?

Thanks,

Greg
nz8r

-----Original Message-----
From: Elliott [mailto:edl@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:57 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: Re: [FT817] Mods again






I believe that it is necessary to do a micoprocessor reset after changing
the
frequency pads to properly initialize the 817 to its
new configuration?!
Re: Dayton 817 Goodies

 

Regarding Harry's question about the price of the hand mike I bought at
Dayton for my 817:

I just checked my charge card invoice which was $111.00. This included the
HMM-Y hand mike and the separate adapter cable between the standard Yaesu
connector and the modular plug on the 817 plus OHIO State Sales Tax which I
believe was 6.5%. Since I only have the total, I don't know exactly what
the component prices were. I think the mike alone is in the $79 range.

Hope this helps,

72,
Bill
W4RK

----- Original Message -----
From: <harry.edwards@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:40 AM
Subject: [FT817] Re: Dayton 817 Goodies


--- In FT817@y..., "Bill Gerth" <bgerth@a...> wrote:

Still trying to catch up after the week-end at the Dayton
Hamvention. Several antenna items have already been covered so I
won't repeat.

Here are the items that I purchased at Dayton for use with my 817:

W4RT Electronics ONE TOUCH TUNE - Really neat device. Small, light,
super low battery consumption. I just wrote a review of this and
posted on the eham.net website under the QRP ACCESSORIES section of
Product Reviews. I'd invite others who bought the OTT at Dayton to
add reviews of their own. Lots of data and pricing on the W4RT
Electronics website: www.w4rt.com

Heil HM-1 Hand Mike and RJ-45 Adapter - I have had outstanding
results with my Heil HM-10 Dual on my Yaesu FT-1000D. The HC-4
cartridge really seems to cut thru the QRM and help in DX pileups.
The Hand Mike features the HC-4 cartridge plus a broader cartridge
similar to the HC-5, switch selectable. The Yaesu adapter cable sold
by Heil makes this a plug and play situation with the 817. Initial
results seem quite favorable but I need more experience to be sure.
Although the mike is a bit larger than the Yaesu mike, it is very
lightweight, probably lighter than the stock mike.

FT-817 Pack-It Reference - This little yellow book is a jewel. Very
easy for aging eyes to read but smaller than the stock Yaesu manual.
The index is outstanding and makes honing in on the subject of
interest an easy task. You can bet this one will be in my pack on my
next field outing with my 817. The author's prior experience in
writing similar manuals for other Yaesu products really shows.


72,

Bill
W4RK
Nashville, TN
USA

Bill..Please keep us informed on how the HM-1 is working out. I'm
very interesrted in picking one up. What dis you pay in Daytom for
this Mic?

Thanks.

:harry




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Re: Help! Can't tune in 5hz segments on 2M FM?!!!

Stephen M. King
 

That is also true .... these settings are by band. Good point!

Stephen
W3SMK

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Henn" <drhenn@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:28 PM
Subject: [FT817] Re: Help! Can't tune in 5hz segments on 2M FM?!!!


--- In FT817@y..., "Stephen M. King" <frastephen@h...> wrote:
Hi Jacques,
Two things, Jacques.
Hello Jaques & Stephen,

Unfortunately I don't have my 817 or manual with me,,
But If I remember correctly the steps are Band and Mode dependant..

So you could sent 5Khz steps for FM on 6M and 2.5Khz for FM on 2M.

I maybe wrong.. Just a thought.

Rgds
David



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Re: Loop antennae & Loft Openings

 

--- In FT817@y..., "Kanalz, Karl" <karl.kanalz@a...> wrote:
I agree..... loft openings in the United Kingdom are pretty small!

Karl K - W8TIF
Hi Karl,,

It matches the houses.
You probably could put the whole house I had in the U.K
through the loft hatch in my house here. ;-)

David KG6CIQ/M0DRH
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