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FCC APPROVAL HORRAY

Howard Z
 

Looking on the FCC computer today I see that the FT-817 received its approval this morning , shouldn't be long now
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Re: Suggested options

 

Good suggestion Gary only I found my atas a bit slow they will have
to insert some horse muck to speed it up hi!

--- In FT817@..., "Gary Mitchelson" <n3jpu@e...> wrote:
How about a 5 W version of the ATAS-100 (ATAS-5 ?) driven by the
817?
It could be made much smaller and portable.

Gary
N3JPU


Re: Digest Number 18

 

Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:23:35 -0400
From: "Cameron C.R. Bailey" <cbailey@...>
Subject: Re: A new industry trend?

Roger on the receiver!!
That is where the rubber meets the road. (Sorry, tires are in the news
too
much lately.)

I wish that docking would take place with rigs. I would have thought
that
by now, there would be a 2m HT radio that slid into either a front panel
or
microphone which then is really two radios, portable and mobile.
Put a decent receiver in the module and then a small exciter/modulator
that
would either excite a 5 W HT brick or a 50 W mobile amp.

kt3a

After having the Yaesu FT-290MKII/690/790 series of radios I was somewhat suprised that the design of the FT-817 was not similar. The docking mobile amp and snap on low pwr bat pack is really a cool setup and works very well as a mobile/shoulder pack QRP set up. Of course it is similar to the MK1 series with the internal battery pack and all. Makes me wonder if there will later be some snap on pack of C cells or larger and 50-100 mobile docking amp of some sort. That would be VERY COOL in my book. Think I'll sign up and get one of the first ones anyway though!!

Paul Gerhardt
K3PG
Centreville MD

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Suggested options

Gary Mitchelson
 

How about a 5 W version of the ATAS-100 (ATAS-5 ?) driven by the 817?
It could be made much smaller and portable.

Gary
N3JPU


Re: English info

Paul R. Valko
 

Hi Mike!

I knew you were out there. Looks like Yaesu has another winner in the
works, eh?

It would be a great benefit for the US hams that have NEVER been QRP
before to receive in the package some information about QRP operation.
Perhaps something from QRP-ARCI, The Michgan QRP Club, Norcal, etc.

Anyways... the joke on the repeater is that I'll get one first (I am the
most active QRP op in our 250 member club). Our club's email reflector
has already been peppered, by me, with info and pictures :-)

73! =paul= W8KC
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Mike Krueger wrote:


The FT-817 does indeed cover the 6 meter (50-54MHz) band. That is a typo on
the web page, which will be corrected presently.

73,
Mike



----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Gauss <w8cbr@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:51
Subject: Re: [FT817] English info



I guess it hasn't been a secret but I didn't realize until
I read this page that the 817 does NOT cover 6 meters.

This will be a bummer to those VHF ops planning to take it
hilltoping during contests, and assumed, as I did, that it
was like a QRP FT-100.

Bob

--- Pres Waterman <pres@...> wrote:



Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!


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817

Robert Gauss
 

Sorry for causing a panic.

The 160-10 + 2 & 70cm in the text was confirmed as a typo.

I guess either I was the only one wearing specs and saw it
or everyone who saw it ignored it.

We can all feel better now.

Bob

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Sorry Bob W8CBR

 

That wasnt meant to be fascicius remark (sure ive mispelt that word)
about putting ur specs on hi!! but as the rest say it does cover 6 as
you will be aware after everyone in the group sends u a reply (please
dont lads I think Bob knows now) and It will only clog our pages up.
Incidentally it has got a door release on bottom of case for easy
battery access. And can the lads at Yaesu USA get a deciphered spec
page for us all to browse ?? even if its the sensitivity values etc
Please ??
I am thinking the rubber duck looks like it comes in 2 parts if so
can Yaesu tech team design some seperate add on middle bits to cover
individual hf bands with tightly wound coils ?? sure it'll be an
extra revenue , maybe do it in a full add - on pack with 9 extra
wound hf band resonant sticks. If u do not im sure I will wind my own
Sure they will be restricted but it will be fun on a hill-top or
somewhere.Maybe something on the line of the outbacker ie. 1 piece
with seperate resonant tapping points , just to place in between
bottom & top piece.
de John


User assignable antenna sockets

 

Hi all, I presume they mean you can program via menu if you want v-
uhf inputted from bnc, or h-v-uhf (all) or similair in rear SO239 ?
if so ideal but BEWARE if you use bnc with long hf whip antennas, ok
if you keep rig upright and out of wind but if you hold it at an
angle the stess factor on the center pin in the bnc socket will cause
it to widen and after a time you will find the contact becomes
intermittent. Im speaking from experience with what Id done to my 706
& 100 (putting adaptors onto the SO239 to convert to BNC). I was ok
because I renewed the adaptors ,but the FT817 bnc may need replacing
as it is fixed. Just a thought.
de John G0VGZ.


Re: English info

 

I think youd better put ur specs on & read it again Bob, it Does
cover 6 meters!!
de John.

--- In FT817@..., Robert Gauss <w8cbr@y...> wrote:
I guess it hasn't been a secret but I didn't realize until
I read this page that the 817 does NOT cover 6 meters.

This will be a bummer to those VHF ops planning to take it
hilltoping during contests, and assumed, as I did, that it
was like a QRP FT-100.

Bob


Re: English info

Mike Krueger
 

The FT-817 does indeed cover the 6 meter (50-54MHz) band. That is a typo on
the web page, which will be corrected presently.

73,
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Gauss <w8cbr@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:51
Subject: Re: [FT817] English info



I guess it hasn't been a secret but I didn't realize until
I read this page that the 817 does NOT cover 6 meters.

This will be a bummer to those VHF ops planning to take it
hilltoping during contests, and assumed, as I did, that it
was like a QRP FT-100.

Bob

--- Pres Waterman <pres@...> wrote:



Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!


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Re: English info

Pres Waterman
 

I guess it hasn't been a secret but I didn't realize until
I read this page that the 817 does NOT cover 6 meters.

This will be a bummer to those VHF ops planning to take it
hilltoping during contests, and assumed, as I did, that it
was like a QRP FT-100.

Well, this page was written unofficially by a well-known Yaesu guy. Perhaps
his "pre"-review missed something, because I am rather sure it does cover 6.

Also, Japanese specs often differ from US in esoteric ways. For example,
they mention the receive range goes to 154MHz. Naturally, we usually get up
to 174MHz. So maybe the US bandplan will allow up to 174.

Again, Yaesu USA has not released the US specs. And as I mentioned
previously, a US user purchasing a Japanese model WILL miss the upper,
populated halfs of 2 and 70cm.

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!


Re: English info

Bob Sayers
 

The message <20000913175131.9216.qmail@...>
from Robert Gauss <w8cbr@...> contains these words:




I guess it hasn't been a secret but I didn't realize until
I read this page that the 817 does NOT cover 6 meters.
This will be a bummer to those VHF ops planning to take it
hilltoping during contests, and assumed, as I did, that it
was like a QRP FT-100.
Bob

Where did you get that information from, Bob; the spec shown
on the XE1KK site says that it receives "50-54MHz" and transmits
"all bands to 440MHz"?

Bob, G8IYK


Re: English info

 

In a message dated 9/13/00 6:36:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
pres@... writes:

I guess it hasn't been a secret but I didn't realize until
> I read this page that the 817 does NOT cover 6 meters.
>
> This will be a bummer to those VHF ops planning to take it
> hilltoping during contests, and assumed, as I did, that it
> was like a QRP FT-100.


Well, this page was written unofficially by a well-known Yaesu guy. Perhaps
his "pre"-review missed something, because I am rather sure it does cover
6.

I just got a very quick reply from Chip Margelli (about 5 minutes
after sending my message to him) and he said that it was in fact
a typo error and the radio will transmit on 6m.

He said the typo error would be fixed this afternoon (he must mean
California time as it is already evening here in Massachusetts).

Mike - N1EVH
n1evh@...


Re: English info

 

In a message dated 9/12/00 6:12:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
pres@... writes:

I just read the story... and I'm confused. Here is something from the
paragraph above the picture of the FT-817...

"we introduced a backpack portable transceiver, the FT-817, providing up
to five watts of power output from its completely self-contained, battery-
powered case. On 160-2 meters, plus the 430 MHz band!"

OK... here is says it will provide 5 watts output om 160-2 meters, plus
70cm. This includes 6m. Then I read the following...

"it comes equipped from the factory with a shoulder strap, an alkaline
battery case, and an antenna that is designed for the 50, 144, and 430
MHz bands."

OK... it says the antenna is designed for 6m, 2m, and 70cm. Then I
got to this part of the story...

"Frequency coverage: the 817 transmits on the 160-10 meter bands, plus
2 meters and 70 centimeters;"

Something is missing here... it doesn't mention transmitting on 6m!!!

After reading this, I sent a message to Chip Margelli (the writer of the
story) asking if this was a typo error or if in fact the FT-817 doesn't
transmit on 6m. I'm hoping it is a typo error.

Mike - N1EVH
n1evh@...


Re: English info

Robert Gauss
 

I guess it hasn't been a secret but I didn't realize until
I read this page that the 817 does NOT cover 6 meters.

This will be a bummer to those VHF ops planning to take it
hilltoping during contests, and assumed, as I did, that it
was like a QRP FT-100.

Bob

--- Pres Waterman <pres@...> wrote:



Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!


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Best-kept ham equipment secret?

Bob Sayers
 

The message <000801c01d08$1869baa0$87202940@pavilion>
from "Cameron C.R. Bailey" <cbailey@...> contains these words:

I wish that docking would take place with rigs. I would have thought that
by now, there would be a 2m HT radio that slid into either a front panel or
microphone which then is really two radios, portable and mobile.
Put a decent receiver in the module and then a small exciter/modulator that
would either excite a 5 W HT brick or a 50 W mobile amp.

You're absolutely right, Cameron. I've still got a "Docking Booster" which
I've always used with an old Icom IC-32, and into which the handheld slots,
via an Adaptor Plate which attaches onto the battery fitting. Obviously, a
different plate is needed for every style of battery top fitting, but that is
hardly a major problem. In fact, there actually wasn't one in the range for the
IC-32, and I had to adapt one from a different Icom model.

I suppose that the recent trend towards using cellphone batteries attached
to the rear of an H-T case would now represent a problem, but that certainly
wasn't the case when the Booster was being sold.

The concept obviously works best with an H-T which has it's controls (and
especially the display) on the "top" panel, but it's been no great problem
using it with the IC-32.

The unit has switchable high (from memory it's 35 watts V and 25 watts U)
and low power, and a switchable pre-amp. In fact, this unit and the IC-32
may reluctantly have to be sold if I decide to order an FT-817 (readers all
over the world are now saying "If? Yeah, right!").

The point is that this unit, which I believe is now unobtainable, was virtually
never advertised in the UK, and still attracts amazed comments from hams
with wide experience of many different handheld and mobile rigs. Well, why
would you, if yo can sell a ham a mobile rig AND an H-T...

Bob, G8IYK


Re: A new industry trend?

Cameron C.R. Bailey
 

Roger on the receiver!!
That is where the rubber meets the road. (Sorry, tires are in the news too
much lately.)

I wish that docking would take place with rigs. I would have thought that
by now, there would be a 2m HT radio that slid into either a front panel or
microphone which then is really two radios, portable and mobile.
Put a decent receiver in the module and then a small exciter/modulator that
would either excite a 5 W HT brick or a 50 W mobile amp.

kt3a

----- Original Message -----
From: <on@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September, 2000 01:49
Subject: [FT817] A new industry trend?



--- Mike Maiorana <mikemo@a...> wrote:
Hmmmm, wonder if the boys at
Yaesu have a K2 in their lab ;-)
Of course they do -- either in the lab or at home. The entire
industry
has much to learn from the K2, and I seriously hope that everybody
does.

Here are my own lessons, in no particular order.

1. Receivers as differentiators. Most anybody can build a great
transmitter (even more so with recent DSS chips e.g. Analog Devices).
The difference between a great radio and a so-so one is all in the
art
of receiver design.

2. Technology leaps forward in niche markets. Much like the mobile
community gave us a new form factor (FT-50, IC-706, DX-70 and
FT-100),
the QRP community may set new standards for power consumption,
portability, receiver quality and price. These are long overdue.

3. Architecture. There are many benefits to separate the traditional
100W RF stage from the receiver (size, thermal, manufacturing
technology, QRP to name a few). 100W linears are low-tech products
nowadays and can be had for real cheap (when neded ;-)

Let's hope that QRP radios inspiers "mainstream" design of radios,
amps, tuners and antennas. Perhaps it's time for "docking" (much like
in the portable PC industry) to become a viable option in quality ham
gear.

Just my wishful thinking...

73
On 4z4kq


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English info

Pres Waterman
 




Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!


Re: test

Paul R. Valko
 

*&@!(* the Bills. GO LIONS!

73! =paul= W8KC
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Pres Waterman wrote:

GO BILLS!