开云体育

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 开云体育

Re: MRW-HF100 antenna set

 

开云体育

How do you prevent damage from a lightning event if everything is not referenced to one ground (earthing point)?
The potential difference between the two, or more, earth points can be very substantial.
This potential difference is what causes the damage.

Glenn

On 11/16/2024 5:41 AM, Mike EI9FEB wrote:

In UK the "house" ground is usually connected "earth" and connected to neutral at the substation (transformer for the locality). In Ireland there is supposed to be a 1.5m approx galvanised earth spike near the meter box or grid input and the neutral and earth are bonded there. That's quieter.

Maybe 50 years ago people might have used the water pipe as an RF earth, but that might be plastic. You're not supposed to use any utility pipes, central heating pipes etc as a radio Earth.

Don't connect your own Earth spike to the mains supply Earth. They need isolated, especially on the UK system as large currents might flow. The exception might be if your neutral and earth are bonded at the meter box and go to a nearby earth spike and there is no utility company earth.

Every non-loop aerial has a "counterpoise" even if you can't see it. A vertical needs either to be driven at earth level, or have 1/4 wave or more radials or counterpoise, or a sleeve that is earthed only at drive point with an internal diameter ratio with coax outer diameter to give the 50 or 75 Ohms. An unfolded, non-loop, dipole obviously has a "counterpoise".

The end fed Zepp (so called because used on the Zeppelins as a radio aerial) doesn't seem to have a counterpoise, but has really, on the modern version the feed line is the counterpoise. Similarly the over hyped G5RV is only a proper dipole at one narrow band, otherwise the feed cable is the aerial (and partly counterpoise) and then the counterpoise is really the shack earth.

The thing to avoid is an exactly half-wave radiator or counterpoise as that has a very high impedance.


-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Glenn Little                ARRL Technical Specialist   QCWA  LM 28417
Amateur Callsign:  WB4UIV            wb4uiv@...    AMSAT LM 2178
QTH:  Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx)  USSVI, FRA, NRA-LM    ARRL TAPR
"It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the class
of the Amateur that holds the license"


Re: MRW-HF100 antenna set

 

In UK the "house" ground is usually connected "earth" and connected to neutral at the substation (transformer for the locality). In Ireland there is supposed to be a 1.5m approx galvanised earth spike near the meter box or grid input and the neutral and earth are bonded there. That's quieter.

Maybe 50 years ago people might have used the water pipe as an RF earth, but that might be plastic. You're not supposed to use any utility pipes, central heating pipes etc as a radio Earth.

Don't connect your own Earth spike to the mains supply Earth. They need isolated, especially on the UK system as large currents might flow. The exception might be if your neutral and earth are bonded at the meter box and go to a nearby earth spike and there is no utility company earth.

Every non-loop aerial has a "counterpoise" even if you can't see it. A vertical needs either to be driven at earth level, or have 1/4 wave or more radials or counterpoise, or a sleeve that is earthed only at drive point with an internal diameter ratio with coax outer diameter to give the 50 or 75 Ohms. An unfolded, non-loop, dipole obviously has a "counterpoise".

The end fed Zepp (so called because used on the Zeppelins as a radio aerial) doesn't seem to have a counterpoise, but has really, on the modern version the feed line is the counterpoise. Similarly the over hyped G5RV is only a proper dipole at one narrow band, otherwise the feed cable is the aerial (and partly counterpoise) and then the counterpoise is really the shack earth.

The thing to avoid is an exactly half-wave radiator or counterpoise as that has a very high impedance.


Re: MRW-HF100 antenna set

 

Yes 1/4 wave of the frequency, if of the ground,
Otherwise if on the ground do about 10 or more, 3m wires,
Dave 2E0DMB?

On Fri, 15 Nov 2024, 22:32 John G0GCD via , <john=[email protected]> wrote:
Not FT817 directly, but I intend to use the kit with it.
The instructions say that best performance is had with a ground or a counterpoise. Just for fun, I tried the house ground and that's extremely noisy. Any recommendations for a suitable length of counterpoise?
?
The intended use is on the dining table of any holiday let we stay in.. so it'll need to snake around the room, I think.
?
Also, any feedback on how well these antenna kits work? Anything is better than nothing but the vendor feedback has an equal balance of (very) good and (very) bad reviews.
?
Thanks
John G0GCD?


MRW-HF100 antenna set

 

Not FT817 directly, but I intend to use the kit with it.
The instructions say that best performance is had with a ground or a counterpoise. Just for fun, I tried the house ground and that's extremely noisy. Any recommendations for a suitable length of counterpoise?
?
The intended use is on the dining table of any holiday let we stay in.. so it'll need to snake around the room, I think.
?
Also, any feedback on how well these antenna kits work? Anything is better than nothing but the vendor feedback has an equal balance of (very) good and (very) bad reviews.
?
Thanks
John G0GCD?


BENCHER CW Keyer

 

Want to sell? MY Bencher IAMBIC? cw keyer model BY 1. Has plastic dust cover on black? heavy base with keying cord. Pictures on request. Price $100 + SHIPPING OR PICK UP NEAR Lexington SC CALL 803? 816 2537 OR E MAIL ND4Z@YAHOO .COM ASK FOR RICHARD


MFJ 12 volt 40 amp power supply for sale

 

MFJ model 4245 MV. Has? a variable DC adjust knob, 40 amp lighter? socket Light weight switching power supply. Price $85.00 Pictures sent on request. Please call 803.816.2537 or e mail nd4z@.... Located near Lexington? S.C. on Lake Murray.


Kenwood HF TS 440 SAT radio ror sale

 
Edited

Wanting to sell my Kenwood TS 440 S AT HF Radio transceiver. 10 to 160 Meters, Has the auto tuner.
Works great, has hand mic, and power cord.? Pick near Lexington .Lake Murray area.?
Call Richard ND4Z at 803 449 4200 or e mail nd4z@... $300.


Re: FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

 

Excellent news, well done, life in the old rig yet.
Andy


Re: FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

 

hi folks
got a new
Panel Unit - ETCS2518403
Main Unit - CP6778033
PA Unit - CB1152002
it works!
Ok, I try out short wave first and FM radio - 2m and 70cm should work also...
I still have to install the final unit. This is not difficult. Alignment will be according to the service manual.
In sum: it is a brand new FT-81* in an old frame *big smile*
cheers for now - Ray, DL1EGR


Re: FT 817 repaired

 

please check

for more details...

Am 08.11.2024 um 13:53 schrieb ly5ez via groups.io:

Can you please share German shop details?
73 de LY5EZ


Re: FT 817 repaired

 

Can you please share German shop details?
73 de LY5EZ


Re: FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

 

开云体育

Hi

Just a thought, the calibration data is contained in the control head and so by changing the main board this may now be invalid, might be worth going through the calibration process..





Re: Will you upgrade to the FTX-1F? #poll-notice

 

Since I have a Xiegu G90 for 2 years, I have not used my 817.
As a 5-10W trx, I even prefer my homebuilt mcHF trx to the 817.
?
With the aivailbility of LiFepo4 batteries, I would even consider a 100W radio for portaple ops.
The Yaesu FT-710 looks promising and is probably in the same price bracket as the? FTX-1F.
?
73, Chris


Re: FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

 

Got Main Unit, PA Unit.?
Put them in the FT-817 shell. Rewirering was very easy. First power-up let the display blink in 1sec. interval, no audio (ex. 160m). Current as usual...?
?[F] & [V/M] & power on - sequence on #1 start... frustrating...
Today a FT818 Display Unit comes in. Will replace the FT817 Display Unit by this and hope....
cheer for now - Ray, DL1EGR

--
Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Mobiltelefon gesendet.


Am 06.11.24, 18:06 schrieb "Michael Davis via groups.io" <maddmd818@...>:

Got mine yesterday

Mike WA1MAD

On Nov 5, 2024 2:30 PM, robert beswick <ka6psd@...> wrote:
Available mid November,? I waiting also



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: "Mike Davis via groups.io" <maddmd818@...>
Date: 11/5/24 12:15 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: ft817@
Subject: Re: [ft817] FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

Available from Yaesu. Not sure if the ship worldwide. Part number?
CB1333004
Mike WA1MAD

On Tue, Nov 5, 2024, 9:34 AM Raimund Reh via <raimund.reh=[email protected]> wrote:
hi folks
do not find any suggestions but need some help.
Due to several circumstances I have to replace MAIN, PA and FINAL Unit.
thanks you so much - Ray, DL1EGR







FNG, just donated

 

Recent subscriber, expect to have enough time to get a grip on my 817ND now, and thankful for the resource.

73


Re: FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

 

Got mine yesterday

Mike WA1MAD

On Nov 5, 2024 2:30 PM, robert beswick <ka6psd@...> wrote:
Available mid November,? I waiting also



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: "Mike Davis via groups.io" <maddmd818@...>
Date: 11/5/24 12:15 PM (GMT-07:00)
Subject: Re: [ft817] FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

Available from Yaesu. Not sure if the ship worldwide. Part number?
CB1333004
Mike WA1MAD

On Tue, Nov 5, 2024, 9:34 AM Raimund Reh via <raimund.reh=[email protected]> wrote:
hi folks
do not find any suggestions but need some help.
Due to several circumstances I have to replace MAIN, PA and FINAL Unit.
thanks you so much - Ray, DL1EGR







Re: FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

 

Me too?

Mike WA1MAD

On Nov 5, 2024 3:38 PM, robert beswick <ka6psd@...> wrote:
Just got my finals payed for, they are in stock?



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: "robert beswick via groups.io" <ka6psd@...>
Date: 11/5/24 12:30 PM (GMT-07:00)
Subject: Re: [ft817] FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

Available mid November,? I waiting also



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: "Mike Davis via groups.io" <maddmd818@...>
Date: 11/5/24 12:15 PM (GMT-07:00)
Subject: Re: [ft817] FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

Available from Yaesu. Not sure if the ship worldwide. Part number?
CB1333004
Mike WA1MAD

On Tue, Nov 5, 2024, 9:34 AM Raimund Reh via <raimund.reh=[email protected]> wrote:
hi folks
do not find any suggestions but need some help.
Due to several circumstances I have to replace MAIN, PA and FINAL Unit.
thanks you so much - Ray, DL1EGR







Re: Keeping this group on the web

 

Better late than never, I have just donated.
?
Thanks for running this group.
?
--
Mike G8GYW


Re: FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

robert beswick
 

开云体育

Just got my finals payed for, they are in stock?



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: "robert beswick via groups.io" <ka6psd@...>
Date: 11/5/24 12:30 PM (GMT-07:00)
Subject: Re: [ft817] FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

Available mid November,? I waiting also



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: "Mike Davis via groups.io" <maddmd818@...>
Date: 11/5/24 12:15 PM (GMT-07:00)
Subject: Re: [ft817] FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

Available from Yaesu. Not sure if the ship worldwide. Part number?
CB1333004
Mike WA1MAD

On Tue, Nov 5, 2024, 9:34 AM Raimund Reh via <raimund.reh=[email protected]> wrote:
hi folks
do not find any suggestions but need some help.
Due to several circumstances I have to replace MAIN, PA and FINAL Unit.
thanks you so much - Ray, DL1EGR






Re: FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

robert beswick
 

开云体育

Available mid November,? I waiting also



Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device


-------- Original message --------
From: "Mike Davis via groups.io" <maddmd818@...>
Date: 11/5/24 12:15 PM (GMT-07:00)
Subject: Re: [ft817] FT-817 - after replacing MAIN UNIT Board display blinks on bands up 160m

Available from Yaesu. Not sure if the ship worldwide. Part number?
CB1333004
Mike WA1MAD

On Tue, Nov 5, 2024, 9:34 AM Raimund Reh via <raimund.reh=[email protected]> wrote:
hi folks
do not find any suggestions but need some help.
Due to several circumstances I have to replace MAIN, PA and FINAL Unit.
thanks you so much - Ray, DL1EGR