Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer

GO BILLS!

--- Mike Maiorana <mikemo@a...> wrote:

Hmmmm, wonder if the boys at
Yaesu have a K2 in their lab ;-)

Of course they do -- either in the lab or at home. The entire
industry
has much to learn from the K2, and I seriously hope that everybody
does.

Here are my own lessons, in no particular order.

1. Receivers as differentiators. Most anybody can build a great
transmitter (even more so with recent DSS chips e.g. Analog Devices).
The difference between a great radio and a so-so one is all in the
art
of receiver design.

2. Technology leaps forward in niche markets. Much like the mobile
community gave us a new form factor (FT-50, IC-706, DX-70 and
FT-100),
the QRP community may set new standards for power consumption,
portability, receiver quality and price. These are long overdue.

3. Architecture. There are many benefits to separate the traditional
100W RF stage from the receiver (size, thermal, manufacturing
technology, QRP to name a few). 100W linears are low-tech products
nowadays and can be had for real cheap (when neded ;-)

Let's hope that QRP radios inspiers "mainstream" design of radios,
amps, tuners and antennas. Perhaps it's time for "docking" (much like
in the portable PC industry) to become a viable option in quality ham
gear.

Just my wishful thinking...

73
On 4z4kq

Hey, those look like latching relays. Hmmmm, wonder if the boys at
Yaesu have a K2 in their lab ;-)
Mike M. KU4QO

I think everyone needs to calm down a bit.

If Yaesu is monitoring this group, and it's a pretty sure thing that they
are, I would not blame them to ratchet up the price a couple hundred
dollars. That's just based on the enthusiastic response to the FT-817
before it's even legally acceptable to be sold in the US.

You know, I want one too. But sheeze, I have a feeling that when some of
you folks get yours delivered, you are going to get a room with it. I
mean, I haven't heard this much excitement since Michael Jackson thought
he got booked at Boy's Town.

So settle down. We'll end up getting Yaesu to rush the 817 to market and
then all us early adapters will end up shipping them off to Ceritoes for
mods and patches like the FT-100.

;-)

73! =paul= W8KC
Collector of Ten*Tecs and other fine plastics.
Visit the Virtual Ten*Tec Museum at:
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They say it will happen around December.

Ed, N5EM


From: "Amateur Sales" <amateursales@...>
To: "Ed Manuel (N5EM)" <n5em@...>
Subject: RE: FT817
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:50:41 -0700
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Thank you for your e-mail. The FT-817 should be available in the U.S. some
time in December 2000.

FT-817
Japanese discounted retail pice is announced 82,000 JPY (USD=106JPY).
The first batch includes outdoor carrying special case.


de JL1KRA

I was infromed that
some shop offer 75,000 JPY.
Any option price is not available now.

Suprizing large number orders are arrived to a shop.
All the batch of September 19th are
already reserved. The Next will be in October.

GL

JL1KRA

Well now the Universal Radio page confirms most of what I got out of the
Japanese brochure. Still it would be great to have a clear copy of the RX
numbers, just to wet one's whistle. I am on my way to my friendly hill in
FM19 for this week end VHF test, Sure would be good to test the new toy.
73 de Patrick W3PO/VQ9PO/ex:F6DWY
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Hi all just thought if ur interested a JA station sent me details on
another FT817 site (not as good as ours and open to all sorts of
pillocks) but I bet u reply to some of them ignorant msgs, dont lower
urself. its

73 de John.

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I think its time we all arranged a suitable time to have a chat in
our chat room at a reasonable time to suit most. I can be on almost
anytime being just recently made redundant from my last job. How
about u Pres ? I know ur busy selling them cars but your local time
of lets say ?? my best time is 7pm ish till when whenever the
conversation finishes about midnight over here. (ur time 1pm-6pm ?)
lets see what we can come up with de John

Well, I have been on vacation for the past week. I am in San Francisco, from Kaua'i
Hawai'i this morning.

If you want a chat, just fire messages through the email. It will happen fast enough!

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer

GO BILLS!

If anyone receives this msg now I will monitor chat room for another
10 mins de John.

I think its time we all arranged a suitable time to have a chat in
our chat room at a reasonable time to suit most. I can be on almost
anytime being just recently made redundant from my last job. How
about u Pres ? I know ur busy selling them cars but your local time
of lets say ?? my best time is 7pm ish till when whenever the
conversation finishes about midnight over here. (ur time 1pm-6pm ?)
lets see what we can come up with de John

Hi group (again)..... (oh! not him again , so soon! isn't he the one
who just run my pc outa disk space with his last msg? yawn!)

sorry lads just thought Id start off with a bit of english humour,

My priority questions on the FT817 woud be.....................

Minimum tx pwr ? 50mw then 250 500 1w 2w 5w ??

Current drain on the above ??

Does it get warm on rx ?
(it is small and the 100 & 706 does,and they are ventilated)

How warm on tx ?

Are both the front (top) bnc & rear So239 inter-linked ie. do both do
either ? (that sounds confusing) ed. what I mean is 160m-70cm at the
front and 160-70cm at rear so you have a choice (I hope its not just
vhf bnc & hf rear!!!

Cannot see any sort of auto atu in there unless theyre more cunning
than we thought ??

Does it have same 3 position equalising dsp based speech system as on
the FT100 ??

anyhow thats enough to be going on with I think Pres how about you ?
and as Pres says how are u going to use yours.........answers on a
postcard please to...............(another bit of english humour.
oh well ttfn all de John.

Hi again excellent results I think with all you excitable hams doing
ur bit of detective work, especially Vic a local lad to me (just 50km
north of me) ive never met or spoke to Vic until now tnx for pic(s)
Vic. (sorry Vic but it does rhyme Hi Hi).
Pres I would sit it on my dining room table and hook it up to my 2m 4
ele cubicle quad in loft (yes I did say 2m ie. 144mhz resonant) and
tune on 18mhz and work the world with 1 watt ! read it again I havent
made any typing mistakes, my 144mhz quad resonates 1.1:1 on
17meters!!!and gives me better results than my 66ft outdoor skywire
@35ft height. I have had a reply from 1 US guy whie I was using 1w
from FT100 usb on 21mhz, oh yes it also resonates on all other bands
except 80m & 160m WITHOUT a tuner!! I know it sounds a bit daft and
beats all laws of physics but it does work. (I wouldnt dare use more
than 5w theough it) but I dont need to . So ther epres thats what Id
do with mine and as our other fellow friend would do (the one who
likes hanging from national monuments) I would simply enjoy. best of
luck to you but if ur going to be wired up to a backpack looking sus
please wear a bullet proof vest. Hi Hi. Well I did say it would have
internal power and Vics site says it, I am not unimpressed with the
inners Vic I think its much neater than the inners of the FT100 and
has anyone spotted the little crunchy things yet to expand tx/rx ?
(those who want to). I just hope there is a door in the bottom casing
for easy access to batteries it would be a shame if we had to keep
taking the 4 side screws out each time you wanted a quick re-change
of AA's. and I hope Yaesu have mastered the old FT2/6/790 dc problem
on some MK1 radios where as when you have internal batts fitted and
dc in-line you may over-charge batteries, some were actually charging
the batts through the dc line as well as the charge socket. (ok if
they are not ni-cds) I am sure as one guy pointed out the ducky is
just 6,2 & 70cm. so I would keep using my portable telescopic 80,40 &
20m bnc mizuho antennas which extend to 58" and down to 8" for
storage (and with being telescopic they resonate over a wide range)
the one in my pic of 706 has the 20m at 18" len on the top which is
resonant on 21.240 usb with 2.8w I
had just received a 5.7 from east bulgaria, not bad eh!.
anyhow enough of my memoirs for now probably bored u all to sleep. I
would take mine everywhere I go so ther u are Pres theres my bit , I
will send chapter 2 later Hi. de John Land of the Prince Bishops
(Durham) NE England.

Hello all,
I think I would take my FT-817 around with me, along with my FT-530 when I
am away from the house and car, like at the mall. I would take it on mini DX
hunts, going to any place there is a clearing and putting up a dipole, or a
loop and experiment with different HF, VHF, and UHF antennas.

Hmmm...... I wonder what they would say at the airport? Well I think I will
let someone else try that, I will stick to malls, and stores.

I wonder if a short mast hustler with a 40 meter res will work via a
backpack? I would hate to have to drag a 40 meter 1/4 wave counterpoise,
although I use them on 2 meters and 70 cm. Hmm how about experiments on 160
meters? stick a pole in the ground and mount a homemade vertical to
it.......hmm 160 meter ground wave (hahaha).

Well I know one thing I would use it quite often. I wonder if it is built as
tough as the FT-100 or my FT-530? If so I would expect many years out of it.

Signed,
Tom Tishken
Student @ Baptist Bible Graduate School of Theology
KD4WOV Ham Radio
WPON678 GMRS
General Radiotelephone Operator Licensee
Are you Radio Active?

I'd rip it out of the box, get out my screwdriver and open it up for a
peak. Then I'd strap it to my back and walk all around town like a geek
and totally embarass my 16 year old daughter by wearing the thing when I
pick her up at school. Then I'd take it on our next family vacation and
irritate my wife by tying to make QSO's from the top of every national
monument we visit and scare the hell out of all the security personel
there by wearing a "wired" backpack. Then my 11 year old daughter and I
would sit down somewhere and totally enjoy ourselves talking to all you
fine folks.
Sounds like a winner to me!

Chuck - N8DNX

Yeah, me too!

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer

GO BILLS!

I have been awaiting the arrival of the FT817 for years. I have enjoyed
the triplets(209/690/790) for years. I am in the US merchant navy and do
extensive travelling each year. For me the 817 will me my shortwave
radio, my HF/vhf when I visit my relatives in France, and a all together
tote along radio for all uses.
I do enjoy qrp a lot but for the ones among us who do not I have found a
company CCI which advertise in all major mags, and sell HF/VHF amps all
made with Motorola transistors. Be advise that after seeing their
brochure , the only thing you receive is the board loaded. Connectors,
enclosure etc is your doing.
Cheers
73 de Patrick W3PO/VQ9PO/ex:F6DWY
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Pres:
I'd rip it out of the box, get out my screwdriver and open it up for a
peak. Then I'd strap it to my back and walk all around town like a geek
and totally embarass my 16 year old daughter by wearing the thing when I
pick her up at school. Then I'd take it on our next family vacation and
irritate my wife by tying to make QSO's from the top of every national
monument we visit and scare the hell out of all the security personel
there by wearing a "wired" backpack. Then my 11 year old daughter and I
would sit down somewhere and totally enjoy ourselves talking to all you
fine folks.
Sounds like a winner to me!

Chuck - N8DNX