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Re: Blown final club? I think I have a membership


 

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I wonder if changing battery technologies would have required re-designing a board that would require re-certifying the radio as if it were a brand new product? Yaesu was selling FT-817, FT-817nd, and FT-818s about as fast as they could make them... if sales dropped, they might have considered changing some elements of the design, who knows?

It was obvious at the time, to me anyway, that the FT-818 was designed to allow customers to buy new FT-817 type radio and be nearly 100% compatible with the entire ecosystem of OEM and 3rd-party accessories. Some seemed to feel that Yaesu was trying to offer the FT-818 as a new, improved design that current 817/817nd owners would want to upgrade to - I still remember the posts here complaining with statements like "I already have a TXCO, thank you very much! Epic fail Yaesu!" And my favorite "I didn't want 6 watts output, think of the shortened battery life from all that 'extra' RF!"

(I have an FT-897 that I can still buy brand-new battery packs for - and I already have the bizzare charger contraption, it came with two dead batteries when I got the radio - but I struggle with spending $120 for about 8 amps of NiMH power when a 12-15 amp LiPO battery is the same money but infinitely more useful to me... but, the NiMH batteries fit so nicely in the case...)

Be careful talking about the charging process of the 817/818 - some might label you a cry baby and blast you for not researching the radio fully before purchase! Ha-Ha, just kidding.

Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 8, 2024, at 13:29, Joseph Wonoski via groups.io <N1khb@...> wrote:

?If Yaesu was a little smarter they would have made a compartment for lithium ion or similar for the 818 or even mid cycle of the ND version. The obsession with AAs was a mistake. When the 817 first came out it made a certain amount of sense but that era came and went quite a while ago.
? ?They also could have done much better with battery charging than the funky time method. Voltage sensing for charge state would have been far superior which would have ended charge at the appropriate level. I'm guessing that the design assignment of that section of the radio was handed over to a flunky fresh out of college. They got what they paid for on that one.
? ?JMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc.

Joe N1KHB?


On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 12:51 PM, John
<ve3ips@...> wrote:
There are good techs that can fix or use it as a receiver

I was told by an extra that real hams blow finals at least once


Those that listen and never transmit will never be members

One ham I know has 3 817s and never transmitted them and he uses the built in battery.....which is a joke as it last 15 mins transmitting?

BFC stickers upon request hihi
John VE3IPS?


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