On Feb 5, 2025, at 5:04 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

?Hi Bryce,

What is the advantage of adding the drawer after the drawer glue up? Obviously, it is one less thing to worry about but is it more than that? Does it help with the way you clamp, or something else?

If your method is followed, would there be any drawback if the back and front are reversed? In which case, the bottom can be made a bit longer and it will be self contained by the decorative applied drawer front.

Imran Malik

IAM Wood Creations

On Feb 5, 2025, at 7:26?PM, Bryce Comer via groups.io <bryce@...> wrote:

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Hi Kamal,

I'm sorry i'm so late to reply to your question. You may have already figured it out, but in case you haven't, or simply want to give this way a go in the future, i have attached a photo of a quick sketch i did to help explain what i was eluding to.

In the drawing, i have the sides, back and front of the drawer box laid out so you see the grooves in all parts except for the back. That is cut to the width of the sides from the top edge to the top of the groove. When making the groove in the sides back and front, you will need to allow for the thickness of the material being used for the drawer bottom, and i think it's =/- 13mm for Blum undermount slides. (Just check, as i mostly use Salice these days)

When running the grooves with a dado stack, there shouldn't be any issue with the toe out of the fence. If there is, then you definitely need to fix your fence as there shouldn't be that much run out.?

Hope this helps,

Regards,

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Bryce

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https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/
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On 4 Feb 2025, at 18:39, ibsenafshar via groups.io <brian@...> wrote:

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I have the big Hammer cam clamp and don't like it at all, another big fan of the Automax, and the t-nuts you can buy:

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https://taytools.com/products/taytools-2-piece-slot-fixture-hold-down-kit?_pos=1&_sid=a1dae810e&_ss=r

On 4 Feb 2025, at 16:36, Bram Baert via groups.io <bram.baert@...> wrote:

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Hi,

For the zero clearance insert I can recommend my 3d printable model?

Regards Bram

Op di 4 feb 2025, 17:30 schreef Karl via <bombamanwa=[email protected]>:

Sorry it's early, John is correct method uses a square not a straight edge.

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-Karl

On 4 Feb 2025, at 16:36, John Hinman via groups.io <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

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I have used the Kreg Automaxx clamps for three years. I tried a clamp by Milescraft or Anchor (I do not recall which), but it does not automatically adjust for thickness. The Kreg clamps are a little fussy to use, but get the job done.

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I had a friend make up some aluminum T-nuts to use with them. Before that I use a wooden T-nut with a threaded insert.

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I have Mac’s clamps on order. They are not cheap, but have a loyal following. How much can you get for a kidney?

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John Hinman
Boise ID USA
Kappa 450X and A941

On 4 Feb 2025, at 16:30, Wade Dees via groups.io <wjdsignature@...> wrote:

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Hi Morgan,?

There is also a wonderful 3 cut method that works great too. ?And you can even employ a dial indicator if you wish to really get it dialed in.

Thx,

Wade

On Feb 4, 2025, at 7:25?AM, Karl via groups.io <bombamanwa@...> wrote:

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Hi Morgan,

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1- Lots of methods available, if your familiar with 5 cut, do that. There is also an option to attach a straight edge to the blade and use a dial indicator along it's travel.

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2-Felder do sell them, but you can also print them, make them, or people like Ramon Valdez do make some for certain models, but likely expensive for shipping?

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3- Check the parts diagram to confirm, but if you need an adapter, automotive adapters, dust collection adapters or 3D printed ones are all options

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4- Milescraft T-Track hold down, modifying a Kreg Automaxx or using a track clamp with an adapter are all cheaper options. Quick search here should show some examples.

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-Karl

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On 4 Feb 2025, at 16:23, John Hinman via groups.io <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

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David Best demonstrates a method of using a large and accurate square with a dial indicator. I use this method, and find it to be quick, easy, and accurate.

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You can find this demonstration at the end of Mr. Best’s YouTube video “Sliding Table Alignment for Felder Equipment”. It is about 37 minutes into the video.

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It does require a substantial and accurate square, which is not easy to get. I use one made by Lamb Tool Works.

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John Hinman
Boise ID
Kappa 450X and A941

On 4 Feb 2025, at 15:25, Karl via groups.io <bombamanwa@...> wrote:

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Hi Morgan,

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1- Lots of methods available, if your familiar with 5 cut, do that. There is also an option to attach a straight edge to the blade and use a dial indicator along it's travel.

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2-Felder do sell them, but you can also print them, make them, or people like Ramon Valdez do make some for certain models, but likely expensive for shipping?

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3- Check the parts diagram to confirm, but if you need an adapter, automotive adapters, dust collection adapters or 3D printed ones are all options

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4- Milescraft T-Track hold down, modifying a Kreg Automaxx or using a track clamp with an adapter are all cheaper options. Quick search here should show some examples.

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-Karl

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On 5 Feb 2025, at 14:50, Bill Hope via groups.io <hope.we@...> wrote:

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Hi Morgan,

For clamping, I use DeWalt track clamps. You can tip them into the slot instead of always going to the end.?

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I also recommend a knurled nut on the handle on the slider. Makes it easier to move it to a more convenient position.

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On 5 Feb 2025, at 21:16, Jacques Gagnon via groups.io <jacques.gagnon309@...> wrote:

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Morgan,

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Here are a couple of other options:

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- Compass sold by Harvey

- home-made (plywood; hardwood runner; lever-style clamps

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I also use the heavy Felder unit (there are ways to avoid the slippage when applying pressure)

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Regards,

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Jacques

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