Re: Are Miter saws relevant with a great slider?
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I thought the question was on sliding miter saws I said never had one but I do have a bunch of chop saws here and there. Have a 14” Italian chopper, 14 “ 90’s Mikita, with stand tables and stops . A 12” Delta belt drive, large 7.5 hp 94 D 18” with tables and Miya stop system my favorite, What I use that is mobile is Mikita hand saw. 2 battery type. And speed square most handy .? Mac,,
Designing and building for 50 years
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On Feb 4, 2024, at 9:25?AM, Richard <rirving@...> wrote:
?I ditched my way-too-heavy-for-what-it-is Bosch “axial glide” miter saw once I got a slider and migrated to a very light weight/low profile Makita sliding miter saw that can hang on the wall or fit under a workbench when not in use. That gives me what I need for extra long stock + repeatability like trim and can be moved around then out of the way very easily.
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Re: Are Miter saws relevant with a great slider?
#poll-notice
I ditched my way-too-heavy-for-what-it-is Bosch “axial glide” miter saw once I got a slider and migrated to a very light weight/low profile Makita sliding miter saw that can hang on the wall or fit under a workbench when not in use. That gives me what I need for extra long stock + repeatability like trim and can be moved around then out of the way very easily.
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Re: CMT Orange 8" Locked Dado Pro Blade Set
Just in case any Hammer owners press the "buy now" button. The CMT standard dado set does not fully extend on Hammer machines , from memory I think that the maximum dado is 29mm.
Trevor Lusty
Ireland
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Re: Felder Bf6-31 compact. Motor brake gone pop
Alex, One more thing, if you speak with Felder ask for the connection diagram for the selector switch. It will put you in a better position to find a solution. Attached is for the 2 speed, 2 direction blade rise but one for your A14 will be similar.
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On Feb 4, 2024, at 8:51?AM, Imran Malik <imranindiana@...> wrote: ? Hi Alex,
In your machine, K&N selector switch does 2 functions. One is the control side and the other is power to the motor. It appears that the control side is working (indicated by the correct motor being started) but the power side apparently not. I assume that the motor is not getting full voltage. This can be a dirty connection or worse but it could also be that the control side is dropping in/out. In the later case you would have heard the chatter, so the issue me be the former. It may be worthwhile blowing some air and tapping the switch to dislodge any dust build up.
There is a thread here, from few yrs ago, where Felder supplied a different K&N selector switch with some jumpers to make it work the same as original, so that may be an option.
These switches are modular in design. Another used switch can be used to scavenge parts. I assume it is cam type. The option for each stage is to make connections in T, L or I orientations. Let’s hope cleaning works or Felder comes thru (they are still using this type of switch) otherwise it would be bit of a project. On Feb 4, 2024, at 4:37?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote: ?
Hello Imran,
My brother came over and replaced the large capacitor and hey presto, the planer and saw work perfectly. Sadly the ?spindle moulder wouldn’t start. It was trying and rotated very slowly but wouldn’t energise and start properly. Nick tested the
switch and found it to be faulty and I’ve tried to locate the Kraus and Naimer ?A14 switch with no success at the moment. I’ll call felder tomorrow. I did see a thread on this group which you contributed to which seemed to limit acquisition to felder directly.?
Alex
On 31 Jan 2024, at 14:06, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
? That’s encouraging, I’ll let you know the outcome in a ?few days when my brother pops over to help out.?
Thanks?
On 31 Jan 2024, at 12:16, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Alex, Larger one is the start cap and the symptoms match. So hoping all will work once you replace it ?
On Jan 31, 2024, at 7:08?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
? Thanks Imran, there is no visible evidence on the capacitors. I replaced the smaller one a while back which exploded and caught fire. I bought replacements for both but only replaced the defective one. I’ll now replace the larger one and hope
it works. Many thanks for your help.?
Best regards?
Alex
On 30 Jan 2024, at 17:49, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Hi Alex,
Thanks for the details. I hope the cap replacement fixes your issue. Hopefully you have replacement for both of them. If not look for one with a popped end. If no visual evidence, I would replace CA first as that is the start capacitor. It should be the
larger in value, assuming they are not same. If they are same value, you will need to beep their connections relative to the wiring diagram to find out which is CA and CB. Would be nice if they are labeled. Good luck.
On Jan 30, 2024, at 12:10?PM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
?
Thanks Imran, it’s difficult to describe the symptoms as initially there was a grunting straining ?sound that seemed like a braking hum and it tripped the rcd. I turned it on again, the saw started, then the stop switch failed to operate instantly,
then when it did the motor stopped quite violently but the braking didn’t switch itself off, it tripped the rcd. Now none of the motors run, I just get a laboured hum. I’ll get the capacitor replaced and see what happens. Many thanks
Alex
On 30 Jan 2024, at 15:13, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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Alex,
Sure, from your original post, I thought you were having braking issue, i.e. RCD trip at turn off during braking. But if the motors don’t run then replacing caps should help. Once motors are running and the RCD trips during braking we can look into it.
On Jan 30, 2024, at 10:02?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
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Hi Imran,?
I have another couple of diagrams which maybe could help. I didn’t send them as didn’t want to complicate. ?The machine was manufactured in 1999. The motors do not run, just lots of hum before the rcd trips. I’m just going to fit the new capacitor
. Cheers?
Alex
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On 30 Jan 2024, at 14:51, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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Hi Alex,
Correct, this schematic is for 2KW but for one w/o brake function. If the motors are starting up and running normally then capacitors are good.
My schematic has a date (bottom left) 15.09.1994. I cannot read the date on your schematic but I assume it is older because your machine does not show the low voltage transformer. So all switches are 220VAC vs ~24VAC in newer machines including the schematic
I have dated 1994.
If you machine has/had braking function then the schematic is not correct. I was fine for capacitors purpose. You should request a sch for your machine with brake function.
On Jan 30, 2024, at 9:24?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
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?
Hi Imran,?
I’ve managed to find the big book, but it’s only a spare parts book. However a capacitor replacement a while back (just one replaced) instigated a request for the wiring diagram from felder for this 2kw machine : ?I will replace the other capacitor
which I have to see if that rectifies the problem when I get time and see where we go from there.?
Thanks?
Alex
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On 28 Jan 2024, at 14:46, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? No Worries Alex. Is your machine ~5KW? If so, I see Y-D start which adds more relays; K4 is one of them. There is no K4 in the first schematic I shared which was for a 2KW machine.
Do you have the big book of your machine? The schematics and other important info is in there. Here are couple of shots to show you what is in the book that I have.
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If you do not have the machine book with wiring diagram info as shown above, I suggest you contact Felder and get a copy. They may be able to guide you as well as to the location of the relays.
The pics you shared are not very sharp. Appears there is at least one more relay by the selector switch. Still it would be difficult to guide you because I do not know where these are located and for that matter if my schematic matches your machine in
the first place.
Once you have the wiring diagram and you poke around a bit more to try to locate components, I can try to help.
Imran Malik
On Jan 28, 2024, at 4:48?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
? Hi Imran,?
Sorry for the late response, just found your message in my junk ! Thanks for the wiring diagram , most useful as I seem to have misplaced mine. Looking on the circuit board, I could only find K1 and K4 and the other connecting block visible from the top
where the capacitors feed into. There is nothing on the circuit board where the K2 and K3 markings are. Do you know if the circuit board is serviceable or do I replace the whole unit ??
Thanks?
Alex
On 23 Jan 2024, at 23:50, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Hi Alex,
Yes, a wiring diagram. Sharing what I have but you should have a copy of yours. Now a days, it is placed in a pouch on the inside face of the electrical cabinet cover but not sure what they did back then.
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On Jan 23, 2024, at 5:59?PM, alexmoore4@... wrote:
?Hello Imran,
thanks for your kind response. ?I’ll have a look for those components you mention tomorrow. I’m not an electrician, although my brother is and if I can make it easier for him, all the better. I’m guessing a schematic is a wiring diagram ?
Many thanks?
Alex
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Re: CMT Orange 8" Locked Dado Pro Blade Set
David,
I agree with you almost 100%.?
PantoRouter has served me well. I think the rise of PantoRouter killed Leigh FMT, that is probably why Leigh Tool was sold to Lee Valley last August, the build quality of Leigh jigs are of high quality, but the design is not so much, not easy to use at least. I see no continuous improvement to address some critical issues over the years.?
PantoRouter's design is extremely versatile and they continuously come up with new accessories to improve the use of PantoRouter, a truly wonderful tool for the chair maker, Michael Fortune is one fan of the PantoRouter.
I have to agree with you regarding the build quality of the PantoRouter, there are flexes. Certainly the Multi-Router is built like a tank, and can take the abuse. I think PantoRouter's team knows the shortcoming of the tool.
James
James,
It’s encouraging when we agree on something.? Give me 7 feet, 8 and 9/116ths heavy.?
Is anyone still searching for mauve-colored power-feeder wheels?? Now available is Burple, PuceBlanc, and Cinnamon:
How’s that PantoRouter treating you??
The new CMT dado set (imperial version) is on sale in Canada too.
Metric is so much better and simple. Looking at the Imperial shim-spacing guide gives me a headache. <Capture.JPG>
James The 30mm version even comes with a metric version of the shim-spacing guide.? Such joy. ??Hallelujah.
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Imran,
This one is for a 30mm arbor, it is the European version.
The sale price in the USA is $120, a terrific deal for this new design dado.
James Looks like sale is universal not as good as $120 though. <image0.jpeg>
?James,
I found this couple of yrs ago at Scott and Seargent when I was selling my CMT dado. My version (run of the mill dado) had been discontinued and replaced with this version. I don’t recall a price of $120 though. That is quite a deal.
The CMT dado I had, worked well and left a flat bottom but I could see few lines left by the individual blades. However, I could not feel any ridges. I posted some pics here.
Imran Malik ? I got the product email from Taylor Toolswork at 1PM today, but did not check it until now.?
Looks like it is a great alternative to get the dado capability on the slider. Basically, it can cut dado between 6mm to 20mm. It covers the range of Felder two dado cutters. It is only $120, already sold out.
Of course, you need to have the 30 mm arbor and 2 pin holes bored.
James
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Re: Felder Bf6-31 compact. Motor brake gone pop
Hi Alex,
In your machine, K&N selector switch does 2 functions. One is the control side and the other is power to the motor. It appears that the control side is working (indicated by the correct motor being started) but the power side apparently not. I assume that the motor is not getting full voltage. This can be a dirty connection or worse but it could also be that the control side is dropping in/out. In the later case you would have heard the chatter, so the issue me be the former. It may be worthwhile blowing some air and tapping the switch to dislodge any dust build up.
There is a thread here, from few yrs ago, where Felder supplied a different K&N selector switch with some jumpers to make it work the same as original, so that may be an option.
These switches are modular in design. Another used switch can be used to scavenge parts. I assume it is cam type. The option for each stage is to make connections in T, L or I orientations. Let’s hope cleaning works or Felder comes thru (they are still using this type of switch) otherwise it would be bit of a project.
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On Feb 4, 2024, at 4:37?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote: ?
Hello Imran,
My brother came over and replaced the large capacitor and hey presto, the planer and saw work perfectly. Sadly the ?spindle moulder wouldn’t start. It was trying and rotated very slowly but wouldn’t energise and start properly. Nick tested the
switch and found it to be faulty and I’ve tried to locate the Kraus and Naimer ?A14 switch with no success at the moment. I’ll call felder tomorrow. I did see a thread on this group which you contributed to which seemed to limit acquisition to felder directly.?
Alex
On 31 Jan 2024, at 14:06, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
? That’s encouraging, I’ll let you know the outcome in a ?few days when my brother pops over to help out.?
Thanks?
On 31 Jan 2024, at 12:16, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Alex, Larger one is the start cap and the symptoms match. So hoping all will work once you replace it ?
On Jan 31, 2024, at 7:08?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
? Thanks Imran, there is no visible evidence on the capacitors. I replaced the smaller one a while back which exploded and caught fire. I bought replacements for both but only replaced the defective one. I’ll now replace the larger one and hope
it works. Many thanks for your help.?
Best regards?
Alex
On 30 Jan 2024, at 17:49, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Hi Alex,
Thanks for the details. I hope the cap replacement fixes your issue. Hopefully you have replacement for both of them. If not look for one with a popped end. If no visual evidence, I would replace CA first as that is the start capacitor. It should be the
larger in value, assuming they are not same. If they are same value, you will need to beep their connections relative to the wiring diagram to find out which is CA and CB. Would be nice if they are labeled. Good luck.
On Jan 30, 2024, at 12:10?PM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
?
Thanks Imran, it’s difficult to describe the symptoms as initially there was a grunting straining ?sound that seemed like a braking hum and it tripped the rcd. I turned it on again, the saw started, then the stop switch failed to operate instantly,
then when it did the motor stopped quite violently but the braking didn’t switch itself off, it tripped the rcd. Now none of the motors run, I just get a laboured hum. I’ll get the capacitor replaced and see what happens. Many thanks
Alex
On 30 Jan 2024, at 15:13, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?
Alex,
Sure, from your original post, I thought you were having braking issue, i.e. RCD trip at turn off during braking. But if the motors don’t run then replacing caps should help. Once motors are running and the RCD trips during braking we can look into it.
On Jan 30, 2024, at 10:02?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
?
Hi Imran,?
I have another couple of diagrams which maybe could help. I didn’t send them as didn’t want to complicate. ?The machine was manufactured in 1999. The motors do not run, just lots of hum before the rcd trips. I’m just going to fit the new capacitor
. Cheers?
Alex
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On 30 Jan 2024, at 14:51, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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Hi Alex,
Correct, this schematic is for 2KW but for one w/o brake function. If the motors are starting up and running normally then capacitors are good.
My schematic has a date (bottom left) 15.09.1994. I cannot read the date on your schematic but I assume it is older because your machine does not show the low voltage transformer. So all switches are 220VAC vs ~24VAC in newer machines including the schematic
I have dated 1994.
If you machine has/had braking function then the schematic is not correct. I was fine for capacitors purpose. You should request a sch for your machine with brake function.
On Jan 30, 2024, at 9:24?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
?
?
Hi Imran,?
I’ve managed to find the big book, but it’s only a spare parts book. However a capacitor replacement a while back (just one replaced) instigated a request for the wiring diagram from felder for this 2kw machine : ?I will replace the other capacitor
which I have to see if that rectifies the problem when I get time and see where we go from there.?
Thanks?
Alex
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On 28 Jan 2024, at 14:46, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? No Worries Alex. Is your machine ~5KW? If so, I see Y-D start which adds more relays; K4 is one of them. There is no K4 in the first schematic I shared which was for a 2KW machine.
Do you have the big book of your machine? The schematics and other important info is in there. Here are couple of shots to show you what is in the book that I have.
<image1.jpeg>
<image2.jpeg>
If you do not have the machine book with wiring diagram info as shown above, I suggest you contact Felder and get a copy. They may be able to guide you as well as to the location of the relays.
The pics you shared are not very sharp. Appears there is at least one more relay by the selector switch. Still it would be difficult to guide you because I do not know where these are located and for that matter if my schematic matches your machine in
the first place.
Once you have the wiring diagram and you poke around a bit more to try to locate components, I can try to help.
Imran Malik
On Jan 28, 2024, at 4:48?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
? Hi Imran,?
Sorry for the late response, just found your message in my junk ! Thanks for the wiring diagram , most useful as I seem to have misplaced mine. Looking on the circuit board, I could only find K1 and K4 and the other connecting block visible from the top
where the capacitors feed into. There is nothing on the circuit board where the K2 and K3 markings are. Do you know if the circuit board is serviceable or do I replace the whole unit ??
Thanks?
Alex
On 23 Jan 2024, at 23:50, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Hi Alex,
Yes, a wiring diagram. Sharing what I have but you should have a copy of yours. Now a days, it is placed in a pouch on the inside face of the electrical cabinet cover but not sure what they did back then.
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On Jan 23, 2024, at 5:59?PM, alexmoore4@... wrote:
?Hello Imran,
thanks for your kind response. ?I’ll have a look for those components you mention tomorrow. I’m not an electrician, although my brother is and if I can make it easier for him, all the better. I’m guessing a schematic is a wiring diagram ?
Many thanks?
Alex
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Re: Felder Bf6-31 compact. Motor brake gone pop
Hello Imran,
My brother came over and replaced the large capacitor and hey presto, the planer and saw work perfectly. Sadly the ?spindle moulder wouldn’t start. It was trying and rotated very slowly but wouldn’t energise and start properly. Nick tested the
switch and found it to be faulty and I’ve tried to locate the Kraus and Naimer ?A14 switch with no success at the moment. I’ll call felder tomorrow. I did see a thread on this group which you contributed to which seemed to limit acquisition to felder directly.?
Alex
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On 31 Jan 2024, at 14:06, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
? That’s encouraging, I’ll let you know the outcome in a ?few days when my brother pops over to help out.?
Thanks?
On 31 Jan 2024, at 12:16, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Alex, Larger one is the start cap and the symptoms match. So hoping all will work once you replace it ?
On Jan 31, 2024, at 7:08?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
? Thanks Imran, there is no visible evidence on the capacitors. I replaced the smaller one a while back which exploded and caught fire. I bought replacements for both but only replaced the defective one. I’ll now replace the larger one and hope
it works. Many thanks for your help.?
Best regards?
Alex
On 30 Jan 2024, at 17:49, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Hi Alex,
Thanks for the details. I hope the cap replacement fixes your issue. Hopefully you have replacement for both of them. If not look for one with a popped end. If no visual evidence, I would replace CA first as that is the start capacitor. It should be the
larger in value, assuming they are not same. If they are same value, you will need to beep their connections relative to the wiring diagram to find out which is CA and CB. Would be nice if they are labeled. Good luck.
On Jan 30, 2024, at 12:10?PM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
?
Thanks Imran, it’s difficult to describe the symptoms as initially there was a grunting straining ?sound that seemed like a braking hum and it tripped the rcd. I turned it on again, the saw started, then the stop switch failed to operate instantly,
then when it did the motor stopped quite violently but the braking didn’t switch itself off, it tripped the rcd. Now none of the motors run, I just get a laboured hum. I’ll get the capacitor replaced and see what happens. Many thanks
Alex
On 30 Jan 2024, at 15:13, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?
Alex,
Sure, from your original post, I thought you were having braking issue, i.e. RCD trip at turn off during braking. But if the motors don’t run then replacing caps should help. Once motors are running and the RCD trips during braking we can look into it.
On Jan 30, 2024, at 10:02?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
?
Hi Imran,?
I have another couple of diagrams which maybe could help. I didn’t send them as didn’t want to complicate. ?The machine was manufactured in 1999. The motors do not run, just lots of hum before the rcd trips. I’m just going to fit the new capacitor
. Cheers?
Alex
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On 30 Jan 2024, at 14:51, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?
Hi Alex,
Correct, this schematic is for 2KW but for one w/o brake function. If the motors are starting up and running normally then capacitors are good.
My schematic has a date (bottom left) 15.09.1994. I cannot read the date on your schematic but I assume it is older because your machine does not show the low voltage transformer. So all switches are 220VAC vs ~24VAC in newer machines including the schematic
I have dated 1994.
If you machine has/had braking function then the schematic is not correct. I was fine for capacitors purpose. You should request a sch for your machine with brake function.
On Jan 30, 2024, at 9:24?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
?
?
Hi Imran,?
I’ve managed to find the big book, but it’s only a spare parts book. However a capacitor replacement a while back (just one replaced) instigated a request for the wiring diagram from felder for this 2kw machine : ?I will replace the other capacitor
which I have to see if that rectifies the problem when I get time and see where we go from there.?
Thanks?
Alex
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On 28 Jan 2024, at 14:46, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? No Worries Alex. Is your machine ~5KW? If so, I see Y-D start which adds more relays; K4 is one of them. There is no K4 in the first schematic I shared which was for a 2KW machine.
Do you have the big book of your machine? The schematics and other important info is in there. Here are couple of shots to show you what is in the book that I have.
<image1.jpeg>
<image2.jpeg>
If you do not have the machine book with wiring diagram info as shown above, I suggest you contact Felder and get a copy. They may be able to guide you as well as to the location of the relays.
The pics you shared are not very sharp. Appears there is at least one more relay by the selector switch. Still it would be difficult to guide you because I do not know where these are located and for that matter if my schematic matches your machine in
the first place.
Once you have the wiring diagram and you poke around a bit more to try to locate components, I can try to help.
Imran Malik
On Jan 28, 2024, at 4:48?AM, alex moore <alexmoore4@...> wrote:
? Hi Imran,?
Sorry for the late response, just found your message in my junk ! Thanks for the wiring diagram , most useful as I seem to have misplaced mine. Looking on the circuit board, I could only find K1 and K4 and the other connecting block visible from the top
where the capacitors feed into. There is nothing on the circuit board where the K2 and K3 markings are. Do you know if the circuit board is serviceable or do I replace the whole unit ??
Thanks?
Alex
On 23 Jan 2024, at 23:50, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Hi Alex,
Yes, a wiring diagram. Sharing what I have but you should have a copy of yours. Now a days, it is placed in a pouch on the inside face of the electrical cabinet cover but not sure what they did back then.
<image0.jpeg>
<image1.jpeg>
On Jan 23, 2024, at 5:59?PM, alexmoore4@... wrote:
?Hello Imran,
thanks for your kind response. ?I’ll have a look for those components you mention tomorrow. I’m not an electrician, although my brother is and if I can make it easier for him, all the better. I’m guessing a schematic is a wiring diagram ?
Many thanks?
Alex
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Re: Felder K 700 S considering
The base price for the K940S on Felder’s site is $16,490.? Figure about $3500 for the dado cutters and rotary phase converter.? This leaves about $7,010 for the cost of added options.
?
We know that he has these added options:
?
- Electrical tilt of saw blade
- LED-display for angle and height
- Easy-lock – tool free quick change system on main saw blade
- Cutting width 49” (expanded table on rip side)
- Automatic rip fence for 49-1/2”, control panel positioned under sliding table
- On and off switch on sliding table (about $1100 option)
- DRO digital cross cut flip-stop (about $1200 option and requires the Format4 crosscut fence)
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?
He may have these two options as well (you should ask him):
- Scoring unit 1.1 kW (1.5HP)
- Electrical height adjustment of scoring blade with automatic rise/fall
- Scoring unit status light
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I can definitely see all these options adding up to $7k.? He may have gotten a discount from his sales rep when he purchased the saw (Felder typically has a summer sale and a winter/christmas sale when they do allow sales rep discounts).? Ultimately, it’s up to you.? One potential issue is that his pictures show a bunch of debris/gunk on the surfaces of the machine.? I don’t know if this is free-flowing sawdust or some gunk/stain that got stuck onto the metal.? I don’t know why people just can’t clean up their tools when they take “for sale” pics.? I would imagine you would want the best presentation when trying to sell your tool.
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The fact that it’s been up on the site for something like half a year could be a symptom as well.? If you were really interested, I would go visit the saw and see how well it works/performs.? If you go test it, I would ask him to install a set of dado cutters to make sure.? Some Felder saws may not have been manufactured as "prepped for dado".
The K940S averages 1950 lbs, which is more robust than the K700S at 1628 lbs.
-Aaron
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Re: Felder K 700 S considering
Just sayin...? Imran found this....university owned...
PK
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Re: CMT Orange 8" Locked Dado Pro Blade Set
The new CMT dado set (imperial version) is on sale in Canada too.
Metric is so much better and simple. Looking at the Imperial shim-spacing guide gives me a headache. James
The 30mm version even comes with a metric version of the shim-spacing guide.? Such joy. ??Hallelujah.
Imran,
This one is for a 30mm arbor, it is the European version.
The sale price in the USA is $120, a terrific deal for this new design dado.
James Looks like sale is universal not as good as $120 though. <image0.jpeg>
?James,
I found this couple of yrs ago at Scott and Seargent when I was selling my CMT dado. My version (run of the mill dado) had been discontinued and replaced with this version. I don’t recall a price of $120 though. That is quite a deal.
The CMT dado I had, worked well and left a flat bottom but I could see few lines left by the individual blades. However, I could not feel any ridges. I posted some pics here.
Imran Malik ? I got the product email from Taylor Toolswork at 1PM today, but did not check it until now.?
Looks like it is a great alternative to get the dado capability on the slider. Basically, it can cut dado between 6mm to 20mm. It covers the range of Felder two dado cutters. It is only $120, already sold out.
Of course, you need to have the 30 mm arbor and 2 pin holes bored.
James
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Re: Felder K 700 S considering
Hi Jake,
If it is the one on Felder used site, it has a 9’ slider.?If one cuts sheet goods, in order to have space for clamps, most here will recommend a 10’ slider. This one?has been for sale for may be 6 months now, so there may be room for negotiation.
It is hard to put a value on these machines. Before buying each of my used Felder machines, I got a quote from Felder of the same model with same configuration. This allowed me to decide whether I want new or used. If the seller is providing correct price ($27K invested) then he is selling for 60% of the new. If the machine checks out, that is definitely a reasonable price assuming you value the installed options. Considering new one is likely much more.
If I was interested in this machine I would call Felder to find out if they will continue to support the inverter and the control panel for rip fence in future. I used to be more concerned with Felder installed inverters but I recently helped a member replace his and I personally am not as concerned with future support even though Felder could not get this machine going after trying 2 new inverters.
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On Feb 3, 2024, at 9:24?PM, Jake Corrado <jcorrado72@...> wrote: ? So after all of the wonderful advice and information from all of you who responded, I have a question on a used one. ?It is more than what I was looking for but…..it is a6 year old K 940 S. ? spoke to the original owner and he is selling due to lack of use and wants to buy a cnc. ?I come with an inverter, brand new Felder dado blades, electronic everything. ? He even sent me a video of it. ? It is $16,000 cash. ?It is also 7 hrs (one way) from me. ??
Is this worth it??
Again…..thank you for ALL of your help and advice!!
Jake On 03 Feb 2024, at 8:26?PM, Aaron Inami <ainami@...> wrote:
?Woodweb usually has a bunch, but mostly they are 3-phase:
-Aaron
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?Patrick,
I cannot really see the details in the pic but if it has pneumatics on each end then it is likely a “beam clamp”, cannot recall the actual name, it’s been several years. I have seen them on saw sliders but not on shapers. Recently Lucas Pe made one and shared, I think he is a member here as well.
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