Re: Building a closet for dust collector
Joe - I did a similar project recently for my 650 sq. ft. shop, so had to move the cyclone outside of the space. I built an enclosure, attached to the outside wall of the workshop, encased in Roxul insulation. The noise from the cyclone motor is barely noticeable outside the shop, but as TJ noted the return air back into the shop produces a lot of noise. I opted to relocate the filter inside the shop to not lose conditioned air, so it was a trade off.?
If you can some how build a baffle with sound dampening material around the filter too, I think that would help reduce the noise further.
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Mac,
Thanks, ?the height gage works well for setting and checking cutter height. ?Its is nice to have a stable read out that is not jumping around. ?
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On May 22, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression < airtightclamps@...> wrote:
Joe? Your a clever dude. I was at Fagor in Il ?and the service guy had a cool shop made out of a Dro glass scale. Designing and building for 47 years On May 22, 2020, at 8:50 AM, bacchus6015 <dohertyj@...> wrote:
? <image0.jpeg> ? Joe...what do you have? Dave Davies Mitutoyo makes a height gage but you’re not going to like the price:
Joe Doherty just made one using a Mitutoyo digital scale. ? Maybe he could post something here.
David, and all, Since this topic came up, may be you could tell me what I bought. I got? igaging IP54 caliper and a height caliper. They were damn cheap but I was in a bind. While The caliper seems ok, I can't get a consistant reading on the height one at all. While I am game to buy the real deal now that I know more, Any recommendations for the height on that I will be using for the shaper? I haven't spent any money for a few days and I miss my UPS girl. so upgrade time.
David, Surprised you watch Ave, He is always good for a video after a crappy day and I learn about tools that I thought were a lot better than they are because of the names. I Like when he tears apart the battery tools.
Thanks All?
Glen
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 257 ?????????? Avery, CA. 95224 Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road ????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 650-678-3137 LIC # 707507
I’ve owned and gone through so many different brands of digital calipers, I couldn’t begin to name them all.? BUT - there is one brand that stands out head and shoulders above all the others IMO. ? That’s Mitutoyo. ? If you’re of a mind to “cry once” on this type of tool I highly recommend the Mitutoyo digital calipers. ? Be careful buying on places like eBay and Amazon, as there are a number of Chinese clones that are branded Mitutoyo and they are junk.
The Mitutoyo units are very finely made and finished - a joy to hold in your hand and use. ? But the thing I like about them is that they don’t eat batteries sitting in the drawer. ? All the stuff from China, including the Aventor line from Shars continues to consume as almost as much power when turned off as it does when turned on - so a battery change is necessary every few months. ? It’s not that the batteries cost so much, but just when you need the caliper, you discover the battery is dead, and you don’t have a new one on hand. ? In my experience the battery in the Mitutoyo calipers lasts 2 years minimum, even longer depending on use.
The Mitutoyo units come in different lengths and in two levels of resistance to solvents, oils, etc. ? Since I do a lot of machining, most of mine are the higher IP67 rated versions, but for woodworking that’s unnecessary. ? Here are a couple of links to safe points of purchase (they won’t sell you a clone), but they are available from a variety of sellers:
This is the less expensive version suitable for woodworking with 6-inch capacity: ?
Here is the same unit from ?where my price is $20 less than the Zoro above, but you might not get the same deal I do: ?? ?
This is the sealed version for use where there are liquids and solvents: ?
And here is the 8-inch capacity version which is what I keep handy at my saw and shaper for fence calibrations, tool height checks, etc: ?? ?
?(which is Grainger’s web-centric devision) often has promo codes that might apply. ?
Here is a link to all the non-IP67 rated versions sold at Penn Tools: ?
If you want a deep dive into why Mitutoyo units are so much better, and don’t mind a foul mouth, here are a couple of fun and informative videos where Chris does a teardown of the real Mitutoyo and a Chinese versions and goes into the battery differences: ??
?
Hope this helps.
David, Just curious what Brand/Model of digital caliper you're using
there?? I need to upgrade to a decent reliable caliper if you have
a recommendation. Thank you
Bill,
You can always take measurements to figure out how
to reposition the spindle. ? Here’s an example, where I’m
measuring the height of the tenoning plate above the cast iron
top.? I’m taking this measurement in anticipation of removing
the tenoning plate which had been the reference surface for the
counter-profile (cope) cuts, and switching to the cast iron top
as the reference surface for the profile (stick) cut. ? In this
case, the height difference was 34.34mm. ? I lowered the spindle
that precise amount when switching between the cope to the stick
cut and the joint was an exact match at the joint corner. ? But
I still did a test cut to be sure.
<screenshot_3600 (1).jpg>
David,
Thanks so much for the help.? You provided a lot of
answers for me.? I was hoping that there was an easier way
to match the rails and stiles when using the tenoning
plate instead of the trioed and true method of test cuts.?
I had visions of using a digital indicator in some way to
lower the cutter height the exact amount for a perfect
fit, LOL!
Thanks for the videos.? They were really helpful.
Warmly,
Bill
--
Bill White
SoCal
Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too
much stuff I don't use
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
|
Joe? Your a clever dude. I was at Fagor in Il ?and the service guy had a cool shop made out of a Dro glass scale. Designing and building for 47 years
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On May 22, 2020, at 8:50 AM, bacchus6015 <dohertyj@...> wrote:
? <image0.jpeg> On May 22, 2020, at 7:53 AM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
? Joe...what do you have? Dave Davies Mitutoyo makes a height gage but you’re not going to like the price:
Joe Doherty just made one using a Mitutoyo digital scale. ? Maybe he could post something here.
David, and all, Since this topic came up, may be you could tell me what I bought. I got? igaging IP54 caliper and a height caliper. They were damn cheap but I was in a bind. While The caliper seems ok, I can't get a consistant reading on the height one at all. While I am game to buy the real deal now that I know more, Any recommendations for the height on that I will be using for the shaper? I haven't spent any money for a few days and I miss my UPS girl. so upgrade time.
David, Surprised you watch Ave, He is always good for a video after a crappy day and I learn about tools that I thought were a lot better than they are because of the names. I Like when he tears apart the battery tools.
Thanks All?
Glen
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 257 ?????????? Avery, CA. 95224 Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road ????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 650-678-3137 LIC # 707507
I’ve owned and gone through so many different brands of digital calipers, I couldn’t begin to name them all.? BUT - there is one brand that stands out head and shoulders above all the others IMO. ? That’s Mitutoyo. ? If you’re of a mind to “cry once” on this type of tool I highly recommend the Mitutoyo digital calipers. ? Be careful buying on places like eBay and Amazon, as there are a number of Chinese clones that are branded Mitutoyo and they are junk.
The Mitutoyo units are very finely made and finished - a joy to hold in your hand and use. ? But the thing I like about them is that they don’t eat batteries sitting in the drawer. ? All the stuff from China, including the Aventor line from Shars continues to consume as almost as much power when turned off as it does when turned on - so a battery change is necessary every few months. ? It’s not that the batteries cost so much, but just when you need the caliper, you discover the battery is dead, and you don’t have a new one on hand. ? In my experience the battery in the Mitutoyo calipers lasts 2 years minimum, even longer depending on use.
The Mitutoyo units come in different lengths and in two levels of resistance to solvents, oils, etc. ? Since I do a lot of machining, most of mine are the higher IP67 rated versions, but for woodworking that’s unnecessary. ? Here are a couple of links to safe points of purchase (they won’t sell you a clone), but they are available from a variety of sellers:
This is the less expensive version suitable for woodworking with 6-inch capacity: ?
Here is the same unit from ?where my price is $20 less than the Zoro above, but you might not get the same deal I do: ?? ?
This is the sealed version for use where there are liquids and solvents: ?
And here is the 8-inch capacity version which is what I keep handy at my saw and shaper for fence calibrations, tool height checks, etc: ?? ?
?(which is Grainger’s web-centric devision) often has promo codes that might apply. ?
Here is a link to all the non-IP67 rated versions sold at Penn Tools: ?
If you want a deep dive into why Mitutoyo units are so much better, and don’t mind a foul mouth, here are a couple of fun and informative videos where Chris does a teardown of the real Mitutoyo and a Chinese versions and goes into the battery differences: ??
?
Hope this helps.
David, Just curious what Brand/Model of digital caliper you're using
there?? I need to upgrade to a decent reliable caliper if you have
a recommendation. Thank you
Bill,
You can always take measurements to figure out how
to reposition the spindle. ? Here’s an example, where I’m
measuring the height of the tenoning plate above the cast iron
top.? I’m taking this measurement in anticipation of removing
the tenoning plate which had been the reference surface for the
counter-profile (cope) cuts, and switching to the cast iron top
as the reference surface for the profile (stick) cut. ? In this
case, the height difference was 34.34mm. ? I lowered the spindle
that precise amount when switching between the cope to the stick
cut and the joint was an exact match at the joint corner. ? But
I still did a test cut to be sure.
<screenshot_3600 (1).jpg>
David,
Thanks so much for the help.? You provided a lot of
answers for me.? I was hoping that there was an easier way
to match the rails and stiles when using the tenoning
plate instead of the trioed and true method of test cuts.?
I had visions of using a digital indicator in some way to
lower the cutter height the exact amount for a perfect
fit, LOL!
Thanks for the videos.? They were really helpful.
Warmly,
Bill
--
Bill White
SoCal
Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too
much stuff I don't use
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
|
I’m not sure which machine you are looking for, but I just uploaded manuals and layouts (CAD drawings) of the machines I’ve been shopping for – Hammer C3-31, B3 Winner, Felder CF 531, FB 510,610,710, and KF500P to the files section linked
below. These were files my rep sent me as I was deciding (waiting on delivery of a CF 531 – yay!).
?
TJ
?
We keep a set of Felder manuals in the files section.? It's not comprehensive, but folks try to post machine manuals there when they have them.
Felder is pretty good at providing PDF manuals for machines if you reach out to them.
The URL for the Manuals folder is:?
/g/felderownersgroup/files/Manuals%20&%20Drawings
-- Michael Garrison Stuber
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On 5/21/2020 10:59 PM,
abners@... wrote:
Hi,
Where can I get an instruction manual?
Any videos?
--
Michael Garrison Stuber
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We keep a set of Felder manuals in the files section.? It's not
comprehensive, but folks try to post machine manuals there when
they have them.
Felder is pretty good at providing PDF manuals for machines if
you reach out to them.
The URL for the Manuals folder is:?
/g/felderownersgroup/files/Manuals%20&%20Drawings
-- Michael Garrison Stuber
Hi,
Where
can I get an instruction manual?
Any videos?
--
Michael Garrison Stuber
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 On May 22, 2020, at 7:53 AM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
? Joe...what do you have? Dave Davies Mitutoyo makes a height gage but you’re not going to like the price:
Joe Doherty just made one using a Mitutoyo digital scale. ? Maybe he could post something here.
David, and all, Since this topic came up, may be you could tell me what I bought. I got? igaging IP54 caliper and a height caliper. They were damn cheap but I was in a bind. While The caliper seems ok, I can't get a consistant reading on the height one at all. While I am game to buy the real deal now that I know more, Any recommendations for the height on that I will be using for the shaper? I haven't spent any money for a few days and I miss my UPS girl. so upgrade time.
David, Surprised you watch Ave, He is always good for a video after a crappy day and I learn about tools that I thought were a lot better than they are because of the names. I Like when he tears apart the battery tools.
Thanks All?
Glen
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 257 ?????????? Avery, CA. 95224 Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road ????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 650-678-3137 LIC # 707507
I’ve owned and gone through so many different brands of digital calipers, I couldn’t begin to name them all.? BUT - there is one brand that stands out head and shoulders above all the others IMO. ? That’s Mitutoyo. ? If you’re of a mind to “cry once” on this type of tool I highly recommend the Mitutoyo digital calipers. ? Be careful buying on places like eBay and Amazon, as there are a number of Chinese clones that are branded Mitutoyo and they are junk.
The Mitutoyo units are very finely made and finished - a joy to hold in your hand and use. ? But the thing I like about them is that they don’t eat batteries sitting in the drawer. ? All the stuff from China, including the Aventor line from Shars continues to consume as almost as much power when turned off as it does when turned on - so a battery change is necessary every few months. ? It’s not that the batteries cost so much, but just when you need the caliper, you discover the battery is dead, and you don’t have a new one on hand. ? In my experience the battery in the Mitutoyo calipers lasts 2 years minimum, even longer depending on use.
The Mitutoyo units come in different lengths and in two levels of resistance to solvents, oils, etc. ? Since I do a lot of machining, most of mine are the higher IP67 rated versions, but for woodworking that’s unnecessary. ? Here are a couple of links to safe points of purchase (they won’t sell you a clone), but they are available from a variety of sellers:
This is the less expensive version suitable for woodworking with 6-inch capacity: ?
Here is the same unit from ?where my price is $20 less than the Zoro above, but you might not get the same deal I do: ?? ?
This is the sealed version for use where there are liquids and solvents: ?
And here is the 8-inch capacity version which is what I keep handy at my saw and shaper for fence calibrations, tool height checks, etc: ?? ?
?(which is Grainger’s web-centric devision) often has promo codes that might apply. ?
Here is a link to all the non-IP67 rated versions sold at Penn Tools: ?
If you want a deep dive into why Mitutoyo units are so much better, and don’t mind a foul mouth, here are a couple of fun and informative videos where Chris does a teardown of the real Mitutoyo and a Chinese versions and goes into the battery differences: ??
?
Hope this helps.
David, Just curious what Brand/Model of digital caliper you're using
there?? I need to upgrade to a decent reliable caliper if you have
a recommendation. Thank you
Bill,
You can always take measurements to figure out how
to reposition the spindle. ? Here’s an example, where I’m
measuring the height of the tenoning plate above the cast iron
top.? I’m taking this measurement in anticipation of removing
the tenoning plate which had been the reference surface for the
counter-profile (cope) cuts, and switching to the cast iron top
as the reference surface for the profile (stick) cut. ? In this
case, the height difference was 34.34mm. ? I lowered the spindle
that precise amount when switching between the cope to the stick
cut and the joint was an exact match at the joint corner. ? But
I still did a test cut to be sure.
<screenshot_3600 (1).jpg>
David,
Thanks so much for the help.? You provided a lot of
answers for me.? I was hoping that there was an easier way
to match the rails and stiles when using the tenoning
plate instead of the trioed and true method of test cuts.?
I had visions of using a digital indicator in some way to
lower the cutter height the exact amount for a perfect
fit, LOL!
Thanks for the videos.? They were really helpful.
Warmly,
Bill
--
Bill White
SoCal
Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too
much stuff I don't use
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
|
I made this height gage using a Mitutoyo vernier height gage and a Mitutoyo dro.?
I used the base from the old heigh gage and the arm and back plate. ?Luckily it all fit together nicely and works very well with stable repeatbly readings something that i did not get with the igaging height gage or the starret 6” digital height gage i tried out.
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On May 22, 2020, at 7:53 AM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
? Joe...what do you have? Dave Davies Mitutoyo makes a height gage but you’re not going to like the price:
Joe Doherty just made one using a Mitutoyo digital scale. ? Maybe he could post something here.
David, and all, Since this topic came up, may be you could tell me what I bought. I got? igaging IP54 caliper and a height caliper. They were damn cheap but I was in a bind. While The caliper seems ok, I can't get a consistant reading on the height one at all. While I am game to buy the real deal now that I know more, Any recommendations for the height on that I will be using for the shaper? I haven't spent any money for a few days and I miss my UPS girl. so upgrade time.
David, Surprised you watch Ave, He is always good for a video after a crappy day and I learn about tools that I thought were a lot better than they are because of the names. I Like when he tears apart the battery tools.
Thanks All?
Glen
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 257 ?????????? Avery, CA. 95224 Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road ????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 650-678-3137 LIC # 707507
I’ve owned and gone through so many different brands of digital calipers, I couldn’t begin to name them all.? BUT - there is one brand that stands out head and shoulders above all the others IMO. ? That’s Mitutoyo. ? If you’re of a mind to “cry once” on this type of tool I highly recommend the Mitutoyo digital calipers. ? Be careful buying on places like eBay and Amazon, as there are a number of Chinese clones that are branded Mitutoyo and they are junk.
The Mitutoyo units are very finely made and finished - a joy to hold in your hand and use. ? But the thing I like about them is that they don’t eat batteries sitting in the drawer. ? All the stuff from China, including the Aventor line from Shars continues to consume as almost as much power when turned off as it does when turned on - so a battery change is necessary every few months. ? It’s not that the batteries cost so much, but just when you need the caliper, you discover the battery is dead, and you don’t have a new one on hand. ? In my experience the battery in the Mitutoyo calipers lasts 2 years minimum, even longer depending on use.
The Mitutoyo units come in different lengths and in two levels of resistance to solvents, oils, etc. ? Since I do a lot of machining, most of mine are the higher IP67 rated versions, but for woodworking that’s unnecessary. ? Here are a couple of links to safe points of purchase (they won’t sell you a clone), but they are available from a variety of sellers:
This is the less expensive version suitable for woodworking with 6-inch capacity: ?
Here is the same unit from ?where my price is $20 less than the Zoro above, but you might not get the same deal I do: ?? ?
This is the sealed version for use where there are liquids and solvents: ?
And here is the 8-inch capacity version which is what I keep handy at my saw and shaper for fence calibrations, tool height checks, etc: ?? ?
?(which is Grainger’s web-centric devision) often has promo codes that might apply. ?
Here is a link to all the non-IP67 rated versions sold at Penn Tools: ?
If you want a deep dive into why Mitutoyo units are so much better, and don’t mind a foul mouth, here are a couple of fun and informative videos where Chris does a teardown of the real Mitutoyo and a Chinese versions and goes into the battery differences: ??
?
Hope this helps.
David, Just curious what Brand/Model of digital caliper you're using
there?? I need to upgrade to a decent reliable caliper if you have
a recommendation. Thank you
Bill,
You can always take measurements to figure out how
to reposition the spindle. ? Here’s an example, where I’m
measuring the height of the tenoning plate above the cast iron
top.? I’m taking this measurement in anticipation of removing
the tenoning plate which had been the reference surface for the
counter-profile (cope) cuts, and switching to the cast iron top
as the reference surface for the profile (stick) cut. ? In this
case, the height difference was 34.34mm. ? I lowered the spindle
that precise amount when switching between the cope to the stick
cut and the joint was an exact match at the joint corner. ? But
I still did a test cut to be sure.
<screenshot_3600 (1).jpg>
David,
Thanks so much for the help.? You provided a lot of
answers for me.? I was hoping that there was an easier way
to match the rails and stiles when using the tenoning
plate instead of the trioed and true method of test cuts.?
I had visions of using a digital indicator in some way to
lower the cutter height the exact amount for a perfect
fit, LOL!
Thanks for the videos.? They were really helpful.
Warmly,
Bill
--
Bill White
SoCal
Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too
much stuff I don't use
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
|
Ultralight is readily?available at multiple?locations in Northern?California, including HD, Moore Newton, MacBeath and others.? Just Google it.
At least some ultralight is made from radiata pine.? The weight reduction is 30%.? I have used it for torsion boxes which get heavy fast.? Glued and screwed, it holds the rigidity just fine.? It is some dusty but manageable for occasional use.
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I can still get ultralight MDF from my supplier..It's still available..It's not as dense, thus the lighter weight.
On Thursday, May 21, 2020, 01:31:48 PM PDT, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
What are your intended applications of the stuff?
MDF has its place in cabinetry and other applications where a smooth and uniform surface is useful. I've used the light weight, super refined and regular. I didn't recall a difference in workability, flatness, or dust.?
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Joe...what do you have? Dave Davies
Mitutoyo makes a height gage but you’re not going to like the price:
Joe Doherty just made one using a Mitutoyo digital scale. ? Maybe he could post something here.
David, and all, Since this topic came up, may be you could tell me what I bought. I got? igaging IP54 caliper and a height caliper. They were damn cheap but I was in a bind. While The caliper seems ok, I can't get a consistant reading on the height one at all. While I am game to buy the real deal now that I know more, Any recommendations for the height on that I will be using for the shaper? I haven't spent any money for a few days and I miss my UPS girl. so upgrade time.
David, Surprised you watch Ave, He is always good for a video after a crappy day and I learn about tools that I thought were a lot better than they are because of the names. I Like when he tears apart the battery tools.
Thanks All?
Glen
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 257 ?????????? Avery, CA. 95224 Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road ????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 650-678-3137 LIC # 707507
I’ve owned and gone through so many different brands of digital calipers, I couldn’t begin to name them all.? BUT - there is one brand that stands out head and shoulders above all the others IMO. ? That’s Mitutoyo. ? If you’re of a mind to “cry once” on this type of tool I highly recommend the Mitutoyo digital calipers. ? Be careful buying on places like eBay and Amazon, as there are a number of Chinese clones that are branded Mitutoyo and they are junk.
The Mitutoyo units are very finely made and finished - a joy to hold in your hand and use. ? But the thing I like about them is that they don’t eat batteries sitting in the drawer. ? All the stuff from China, including the Aventor line from Shars continues to consume as almost as much power when turned off as it does when turned on - so a battery change is necessary every few months. ? It’s not that the batteries cost so much, but just when you need the caliper, you discover the battery is dead, and you don’t have a new one on hand. ? In my experience the battery in the Mitutoyo calipers lasts 2 years minimum, even longer depending on use.
The Mitutoyo units come in different lengths and in two levels of resistance to solvents, oils, etc. ? Since I do a lot of machining, most of mine are the higher IP67 rated versions, but for woodworking that’s unnecessary. ? Here are a couple of links to safe points of purchase (they won’t sell you a clone), but they are available from a variety of sellers:
This is the less expensive version suitable for woodworking with 6-inch capacity: ?
Here is the same unit from ?where my price is $20 less than the Zoro above, but you might not get the same deal I do: ?? ?
This is the sealed version for use where there are liquids and solvents: ?
And here is the 8-inch capacity version which is what I keep handy at my saw and shaper for fence calibrations, tool height checks, etc: ?? ?
?(which is Grainger’s web-centric devision) often has promo codes that might apply. ?
Here is a link to all the non-IP67 rated versions sold at Penn Tools: ?
If you want a deep dive into why Mitutoyo units are so much better, and don’t mind a foul mouth, here are a couple of fun and informative videos where Chris does a teardown of the real Mitutoyo and a Chinese versions and goes into the battery differences: ??
?
Hope this helps.
David, Just curious what Brand/Model of digital caliper you're using
there?? I need to upgrade to a decent reliable caliper if you have
a recommendation. Thank you
Bill,
You can always take measurements to figure out how
to reposition the spindle. ? Here’s an example, where I’m
measuring the height of the tenoning plate above the cast iron
top.? I’m taking this measurement in anticipation of removing
the tenoning plate which had been the reference surface for the
counter-profile (cope) cuts, and switching to the cast iron top
as the reference surface for the profile (stick) cut. ? In this
case, the height difference was 34.34mm. ? I lowered the spindle
that precise amount when switching between the cope to the stick
cut and the joint was an exact match at the joint corner. ? But
I still did a test cut to be sure.
<screenshot_3600 (1).jpg>
David,
Thanks so much for the help.? You provided a lot of
answers for me.? I was hoping that there was an easier way
to match the rails and stiles when using the tenoning
plate instead of the trioed and true method of test cuts.?
I had visions of using a digital indicator in some way to
lower the cutter height the exact amount for a perfect
fit, LOL!
Thanks for the videos.? They were really helpful.
Warmly,
Bill
--
Bill White
SoCal
Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too
much stuff I don't use
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
|
David,
Since the subject is manuals. ?I have a CF-531 and I know it’s kind of a Hammer/Felder Hybrid. ?Would your survival guide be appropriate and if so is it still possible to purchase a copy?
Thanks,
James Shoenberger
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Mitutoyo makes a height gage but you’re not going to like the price:
Joe Doherty just made one using a Mitutoyo digital scale. ? Maybe he could post something here.
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David, and all, Since this topic came up, may be you could tell me what I bought. I got? igaging IP54 caliper and a height caliper. They were damn cheap but I was in a bind. While The caliper seems ok, I can't get a consistant reading on the height one at all. While I am game to buy the real deal now that I know more, Any recommendations for the height on that I will be using for the shaper? I haven't spent any money for a few days and I miss my UPS girl. so upgrade time.
David, Surprised you watch Ave, He is always good for a video after a crappy day and I learn about tools that I thought were a lot better than they are because of the names. I Like when he tears apart the battery tools.
Thanks All?
Glen
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 257 ?????????? Avery, CA. 95224 Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road ????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 650-678-3137 LIC # 707507
I’ve owned and gone through so many different brands of digital calipers, I couldn’t begin to name them all.? BUT - there is one brand that stands out head and shoulders above all the others IMO. ? That’s Mitutoyo. ? If you’re of a mind to “cry once” on this type of tool I highly recommend the Mitutoyo digital calipers. ? Be careful buying on places like eBay and Amazon, as there are a number of Chinese clones that are branded Mitutoyo and they are junk.
The Mitutoyo units are very finely made and finished - a joy to hold in your hand and use. ? But the thing I like about them is that they don’t eat batteries sitting in the drawer. ? All the stuff from China, including the Aventor line from Shars continues to consume as almost as much power when turned off as it does when turned on - so a battery change is necessary every few months. ? It’s not that the batteries cost so much, but just when you need the caliper, you discover the battery is dead, and you don’t have a new one on hand. ? In my experience the battery in the Mitutoyo calipers lasts 2 years minimum, even longer depending on use.
The Mitutoyo units come in different lengths and in two levels of resistance to solvents, oils, etc. ? Since I do a lot of machining, most of mine are the higher IP67 rated versions, but for woodworking that’s unnecessary. ? Here are a couple of links to safe points of purchase (they won’t sell you a clone), but they are available from a variety of sellers:
This is the less expensive version suitable for woodworking with 6-inch capacity: ?
Here is the same unit from ?where my price is $20 less than the Zoro above, but you might not get the same deal I do: ?? ?
This is the sealed version for use where there are liquids and solvents: ?
And here is the 8-inch capacity version which is what I keep handy at my saw and shaper for fence calibrations, tool height checks, etc: ?? ?
?(which is Grainger’s web-centric devision) often has promo codes that might apply. ?
Here is a link to all the non-IP67 rated versions sold at Penn Tools: ?
If you want a deep dive into why Mitutoyo units are so much better, and don’t mind a foul mouth, here are a couple of fun and informative videos where Chris does a teardown of the real Mitutoyo and a Chinese versions and goes into the battery differences: ??
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Hope this helps.
David, Just curious what Brand/Model of digital caliper you're using
there?? I need to upgrade to a decent reliable caliper if you have
a recommendation. Thank you
Bill,
You can always take measurements to figure out how
to reposition the spindle. ? Here’s an example, where I’m
measuring the height of the tenoning plate above the cast iron
top.? I’m taking this measurement in anticipation of removing
the tenoning plate which had been the reference surface for the
counter-profile (cope) cuts, and switching to the cast iron top
as the reference surface for the profile (stick) cut. ? In this
case, the height difference was 34.34mm. ? I lowered the spindle
that precise amount when switching between the cope to the stick
cut and the joint was an exact match at the joint corner. ? But
I still did a test cut to be sure.
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David,
Thanks so much for the help.? You provided a lot of
answers for me.? I was hoping that there was an easier way
to match the rails and stiles when using the tenoning
plate instead of the trioed and true method of test cuts.?
I had visions of using a digital indicator in some way to
lower the cutter height the exact amount for a perfect
fit, LOL!
Thanks for the videos.? They were really helpful.
Warmly,
Bill
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Bill White
SoCal
Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too
much stuff I don't use
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Hi,
Where can I get an instruction manual?
Any videos?
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Re: Plano Glue Press for sale
Hi Cindy,
Please contact via phone at 715-441-6526 if the glue clamping system is still for sale. ?My son lives in Spring and could pick it up.
Regards,
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I have a Plano Glue press for sale - 5 clamps and 2 rails. It has been hanging in un-airconditioned space under cover for at least 10 years. I can ship it via UPS. Shipping amount will depend on your location distance from Houston area, starting at $45.
PM me if you are interested.
Thank you,
Cindy
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What are your intended applications of the stuff?
MDF has its place in cabinetry and other applications where a smooth and uniform surface is useful. I've used the light weight, super refined and regular. I didn't recall a difference in workability, flatness, or dust.?
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Re: Plano Glue Press for sale
Cindy, What are you asking for the glue press. Thanks Randy
I have a Plano Glue press for sale - 5 clamps and 2 rails. It has been hanging in un-airconditioned space under cover for at least 10 years. I can ship it via UPS. Shipping amount will depend on your location distance from Houston area, starting at $45.
PM me if you are interested.
Thank you,
Cindy
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Re: Building a closet for dust collector
I have a 5HP ClearVue Cyclone that I built an enclosure for to reduce noise. I also have a background in live sound reinforcement so have some acoustical knowledge.
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There are two separate but related things – transmission, and absorption. A concrete wall is very effective at stopping transmission, but it has hardly any absorption, meaning the sound just bounces off but
is not attenuated. Softer materials absorb sound to varying degrees at varying frequencies depending on the material and quantity but they don’t block transmission very much.?
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What you’re describing is a fairly standard mid-level isolation wall and that will indeed make a dent in the transmission of sound in the enclosure and vibration of the DC unit. How well this works depends
on how well you can isolate the walls from the rest of your building – if your studs are fastened to the ceiling you will have some transmission there. A more complete way to build it is to have a false ceiling on the inner wall that doesn’t contact your room
structure. Whether that is necessary for you or not is a different question.
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My gut feel is that your air outlet is going to be your largest noise source. Snaking the duct will help the noise level and harm your back pressure (probably not a big deal if you’re going 5x the size), but
a lot of noise still comes out the end of the duct. If you can use the insulated flexible duct like what is used for bathroom fans that will help with noise, but it may not be large enough for you. You may end up building a kind of muffler.
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For my enclosure, I did 2x4 construction with plywood on the outside and acoustical foam on the inside. I left an exhaust area of about 3” tall x 40” wide, which is several times the output port of my DC.
It is effective in that it takes the noise level down from “definitely uncomfortable and hearing-protection required” to “This is a little too loud for comfortable conversation, but it’s way quieter than my table saw, miter saw, or planer”. That was the right
balance for me – I didn’t want to give up a ton of shop space for a big room and I’m almost always wearing hearing protection when the DC is running anyway.
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Plano Glue Press for sale
I have a Plano Glue press for sale - 5 clamps and 2 rails. It has been hanging in un-airconditioned space under cover for at least 10 years. I can ship it via UPS. Shipping amount will depend on your location distance from Houston area, starting at $45.
PM me if you are interested.
Thank you,
Cindy
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That's not been my experience Mike but I predrill to the proper depth, stay away from edges and use low root high grab screws. Like I said under standing the limitations of the product your working with is key.?
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Screw holding is also an issue. ?One solution, that also lightens it, is to face lumber core plywood with a thin face of MDF.
On May 21, 2020, at 9:21 AM, Jason Holtz < jholtzy@...> wrote:
There used to be "ultralight MDF", but I haven't seen it around for quite a while. I think it was using pine or basswood. It was particularly poor at holding fasteners. Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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