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Re: Help With Shaping


 

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Mitutoyo makes a height gage but you¡¯re not going to like the price:


Joe Doherty just made one using a Mitutoyo digital scale. ? Maybe he could post something here.


David Best

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On May 19, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Glen Christensen <grchris1966@...> wrote:

David, and all,
Since this topic came up, may be you could tell me what I bought. I got? igaging IP54 caliper and a height caliper. They were damn cheap but I was in a bind.
While The caliper seems ok, I can't get a consistant reading on the height one at all. While I am game to buy the real deal now that I know more, Any recommendations for the height on that I will be using for the shaper?
I haven't spent any money for a few days and I miss my UPS girl. so upgrade time.

David, Surprised you watch Ave, He is always good for a video after a crappy day and I learn about tools that I thought were a lot better than they are because of the names. I Like when he tears apart the battery tools.
Thanks All?
Glen
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 257
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Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road
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On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 3:27 PM david@... via <david=[email protected]> wrote:
I¡¯ve owned and gone through so many different brands of digital calipers, I couldn¡¯t begin to name them all.? BUT - there is one brand that stands out head and shoulders above all the others IMO. ? That¡¯s Mitutoyo. ? If you¡¯re of a mind to ¡°cry once¡± on this type of tool I highly recommend the Mitutoyo digital calipers. ? Be careful buying on places like eBay and Amazon, as there are a number of Chinese clones that are branded Mitutoyo and they are junk.

The Mitutoyo units are very finely made and finished - a joy to hold in your hand and use. ? But the thing I like about them is that they don¡¯t eat batteries sitting in the drawer. ? All the stuff from China, including the Aventor line from Shars continues to consume as almost as much power when turned off as it does when turned on - so a battery change is necessary every few months. ? It¡¯s not that the batteries cost so much, but just when you need the caliper, you discover the battery is dead, and you don¡¯t have a new one on hand. ? In my experience the battery in the Mitutoyo calipers lasts 2 years minimum, even longer depending on use.

The Mitutoyo units come in different lengths and in two levels of resistance to solvents, oils, etc. ? Since I do a lot of machining, most of mine are the higher IP67 rated versions, but for woodworking that¡¯s unnecessary. ? Here are a couple of links to safe points of purchase (they won¡¯t sell you a clone), but they are available from a variety of sellers:

This is the less expensive version suitable for woodworking with 6-inch capacity: ?

Here is the same unit from ?where my price is $20 less than the Zoro above, but you might not get the same deal I do: ??
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This is the sealed version for use where there are liquids and solvents: ?

And here is the 8-inch capacity version which is what I keep handy at my saw and shaper for fence calibrations, tool height checks, etc: ??
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?(which is Grainger¡¯s web-centric devision) often has promo codes that might apply. ?

Here is a link to all the non-IP67 rated versions sold at Penn Tools:
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If you want a deep dive into why Mitutoyo units are so much better, and don¡¯t mind a foul mouth, here are a couple of fun and informative videos where Chris does a teardown of the real Mitutoyo and a Chinese versions and goes into the battery differences: ??

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Hope this helps.


David Best







On May 19, 2020, at 8:37 AM, carl yaz <redsoxyaz@...> wrote:

David,

Just curious what Brand/Model of digital caliper you're using there?? I need to upgrade to a decent reliable caliper if you have a recommendation.

Thank you

On 5/19/2020 6:47 AM, david@... via wrote:
Bill,

You can always take measurements to figure out how to reposition the spindle. ? Here¡¯s an example, where I¡¯m measuring the height of the tenoning plate above the cast iron top.? I¡¯m taking this measurement in anticipation of removing the tenoning plate which had been the reference surface for the counter-profile (cope) cuts, and switching to the cast iron top as the reference surface for the profile (stick) cut. ? In this case, the height difference was 34.34mm. ? I lowered the spindle that precise amount when switching between the cope to the stick cut and the joint was an exact match at the joint corner. ? But I still did a test cut to be sure.


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David Best







On May 18, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Bill White <william2652@...> wrote:

David,

Thanks so much for the help.? You provided a lot of answers for me.? I was hoping that there was an easier way to match the rails and stiles when using the tenoning plate instead of the trioed and true method of test cuts.? I had visions of using a digital indicator in some way to lower the cutter height the exact amount for a perfect fit, LOL!

Thanks for the videos.? They were really helpful.

Warmly,

Bill
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Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use





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