Re: Pending delivery, looking for advice
?When they say "drop ship", that's exactly what they mean.? They'll unload the pallet from their lift gate and leave it for you to figure out.? ?Supposedly, a narrow pallet jack makes transporting the pallets doable, although it still doesn't help with unloading.? I ended up using a piano mover who was able to take my A3-31 from its pallet, carry it into my house, and place it on its mobile base (I used a Bora 3550 which I love.? It moves the machine in any direction with one hand once it's unlocked--as opposed to the Felder mobile base which allows you to move the machine only in one direction.? ?I had a SawStop PCS before learning about Hammer.? ?I've used your slider and DE unit along with the A3? in classes--if I had my SawStop purchase to do over again, I'd opt for the slider.? I think you're going to be very happy.
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 7:21 PM Troy Holtby < tholtby@...> wrote: New to the group. I have a delivery of 4 new machines due in 4 weeks (KF700, FB510, RL160, and Hammer A3-41.?
I am just a hobbist and am new to both sliders and Felder but after much research chose to go this route.?
With the machines due in the next month, is there any prep advice anyone could give to make sure I'm ready when they arrive? (Electrical is done and verified)
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Pending delivery, looking for advice
New to the group. I have a delivery of 4 new machines due in 4 weeks (KF700, FB510, RL160, and Hammer A3-41.?
I am just a hobbist and am new to both sliders and Felder but after much research chose to go this route.?
With the machines due in the next month, is there any prep advice anyone could give to make sure I'm ready when they arrive? (Electrical is done and verified)
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cmluck,
I assume your dust collector motor is 3 phase since you mention it is controlled by a 3 phase contactor. How is this contactor switched? 110AC or 220AC or some DC voltage?
I can at least recommend something that you should run by felder before trying.
From PN you have 220-240VAC model.
Imran?
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On Jan 9, 2021, at 4:29 PM, cmluck01@... wrote: ?Greetings to all, I recently purchased, from Felder, a ZIEHL STW1K S225636 Dust Collector Control Module along with a few of the ZIEHL STWA1 Coil Transformers to control my dust collector. This module controls up to 8 machines and uses the coil transformers to activate a relay in the STW1K to turn on the dust collector. When the individual machines (say a saw or planer), are powered off, then the dust collector will too be turned off, following a short delay. If anyone is familiar with this setup, I could use some help on the wiring. I am unsure of the connections at A1, A2, 16, and 18. See photos and wiring diagrams. For reference, I'm running a Felder K940 5.5 KW 3 phase slider and Felder AD951 3 phase Jointer/Planer 7.5 KW via a Phase Perfect 20 HP. My Dust collector has a 5HP with Baldor motor with a 3 Phase contactor for on/off. Any input is appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Adjustingearing jointer tables on BF6 #helps if no on
#helps
I would add, many times trying to get everything lined up perfectly on a machine is not always necessary(within reason). The best test is if the machine cuts straight, flat, and evenly. If the jointer is doing that, I have learned "If it aint broke don't fix
it".? I learned a lot retro fitting a helical cutterhead on my Hammer jointer/thicknesser, as it meant taking tables of as well as and had to recalibrate everything.
Felder should be able to supply a maintenance file, with relevant tolerances for set up, so you don't spend all day trying to achieve unattainable perfection, when not necessary.
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Greetings to all,
I recently purchased, from Felder, a ZIEHL STW1K S225636 Dust Collector Control Module along with a few of the ZIEHL STWA1 Coil Transformers to control my dust collector. This module controls up to 8 machines and uses the coil transformers to activate a relay in the STW1K to turn on the dust collector. When the individual machines (say a saw or planer), are powered off, then the dust collector will too be turned off, following a short delay. If anyone is familiar with this setup, I could use some help on the wiring. I am unsure of the connections at A1, A2, 16, and 18. See photos and wiring diagrams. For reference, I'm running a Felder K940 5.5 KW 3 phase slider and Felder AD951 3 phase Jointer/Planer 7.5 KW via a Phase Perfect 20 HP. My Dust collector has a 5HP with Baldor motor with a 3 Phase contactor for on/off. Any input is appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping
There is a Brake on the Hammer JP?
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On 1/8/21 9:09 PM, imranindiana via groups.io wrote: BTW, in you failed brake board,
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Re: Just another used Felder thread
Hi Richard,?
Yes, I'm in the states.? ?I don't have any spindles.?
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 1:34 PM Benjamin Thompson via <scribbleben= [email protected]> wrote: Paul, what bits would you round up for spare inventory? As this one sits it only has one shaper spindle, so that's something to look for.?
I believe it can also power a mortiser, but I imagine those are hard to find.
thanks,
b
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Re: Just another used Felder thread
Paul, what bits would you round up for spare inventory? As this one sits it only has one shaper spindle, so that's something to look for.?
I believe it can also power a mortiser, but I imagine those are hard to find.
thanks,
b
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Re: Just another used Felder thread
Thanks for all the advice everyone!
Imran, the machine does still have all of it's fences for the saw and shaper. It also has the jointer-guard (euro stye).
Comes with a share spindle and a single cutter head. It's a simple, straight blade with no profiles, probably for edging and rabbeting.
Paul, the casters need to be replaced for locker that can handle the weight. The ones on there now are ellipses from sitting in one place.
$1700-ish was going to be my offer, so it sounds like I'm in the ball park.
I'll keep you posted. If I get it, look out. I'll have tons of noob questions :-)
ben
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AD-41 J/P, Sotps dead in the middle of a planner operation
It does not do it all the time but enough to really aggrivate. I am taking a typical light cut (.02" to .025"), planner table is clean ?and waxed, the feed is set to ?slow
and it will begin to sound labored and stop dead. Lower the table and start over with the same setting and all is well. My machine is a variable speed version.
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I’d also appreciate an exploded diagram pdf, if possible. Thanks to all
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On Jan 8, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Paul Curme < paul.curme@...> wrote:
Martin, I would appreciate a copy of the same document if you are willing to share it.
My nut and bolt overhaul is taking a lot longer than expected so any short cuts would be a much appreciated.
Richard if your machine is.stored in an unheated space I would recommend installing a small tube heater or ceramic heater with a frost thermostat inside the casing that keeps the machine? at 5 degrees.
Coupled with a good cover then is saves a lot of degradation problems from poor environmental conditions
Had i been able to store mine in a space with power for the heater? then all I would be doing is changing bearings.
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Hi Richard?
Firstly I can commiserate with you being in the garage... me too!
You’ve been given good advice though and it’s all on the right lines!
I’ve had to do it a couple of times and yes it is a juggling game as you adjust one element and then the others go out and you keep going round in circles!
However there is a correct procedure and it’s easier when you take that route!
I managed to get copies of the engineers set up manual and it made so much more sense as it involves the saw table, blade holder,blades, out feed and in-feed tables, let me know how I can send you the relevant and I’ll be happy to help!
Do you have the manual that comes with the machine? As you’ll probably need that as well!
It’s shocking that these set up procedures are not supplied with the machine!
Regards Martin?
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Richard a pair of DTI's on magnetic bases would be the ideal tools for setting the outfeed table
?if you can lay your hands on them.
It will show you straight away if there is movement as you are tightening anything, especially with the hood removed.
Thanks Paul,
I have the exploded drawings.
I'll have a good look today. It's chilly here in my garage!
I don't mind spending days on doing it, as long as I am doing it right! It should only need doing once.
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?Thanks for the thread. I had a brain fart while swapping blades on my bf6 and accidentally somehow turned the set screws for the table. I’ve not gotten it back since. Not good enough.?
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On Jan 8, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Martin Guiver via < martin.guiver@...> wrote: Hi Richard? Firstly I can commiserate with you being in the garage... me too! You’ve been given good advice though and it’s all on the right lines! I’ve had to do it a couple of times and yes it is a juggling game as you adjust one element and then the others go out and you keep going round in circles! However there is a correct procedure and it’s easier when you take that route! I managed to get copies of the engineers set up manual and it made so much more sense as it involves the saw table, blade holder,blades, out feed and in-feed tables, let me know how I can send you the relevant and I’ll be happy to help! Do you have the manual that comes with the machine? As you’ll probably need that as well! It’s shocking that these set up procedures are not supplied with the machine! Regards Martin? ?
Richard a pair of DTI's on magnetic bases would be the ideal tools for setting the outfeed table
?if you can lay your hands on them.
It will show you straight away if there is movement as you are tightening anything, especially with the hood removed.
Thanks Paul,
I have the exploded drawings.
I'll have a good look today. It's chilly here in my garage!
I don't mind spending days on doing it, as long as I am doing it right! It should only need doing once.
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Re: Adjustingearing jointer tables on BF6 #helps if no on
#helps
In answer to my own question, yes! there are 2 pairs of bolts underneath. If you slacken off the cross bolts that go through the round pins, the bolts underneath become loose too. You can then wind them in or out and then tighten up the cross bolts.
So I now have coplanar tables - within about 0.2mm.
I found that my planer blades are not quite set right either, but that's all detailed in the manual.
My garage/workshop reached a max of 4 degrees C today, so the blades can wait until tomorrow!
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Re: Just another used Felder thread
Marlowe, I guess you are in the States?
Do you have a high speed shaper spindle?
Cheers. Richard.
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Re: Just another used Felder thread
Bf6 owners.? ?I bought Felders spares for that vintage machine.? ?I have lots of belts some guards kip levers and even some motors. I will look for parts you're?interested in but don't expect rapid service, as I am doing this to be helpful,? not to make money.? ??I'll give away anything safety related and be very reasonable on everything else.? ? Marlowe McGraw?
I bought a 1994 Bf6-31 about a year or two ago now. Two previous owners were hobbiest. Great condition. Runs great. Owner started at $7000. Three months later I was driving home with it for $3000. Been extremely satisfied with the machine. In hind sight probably would have paid more but I got stubborn over the deal.?
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I bought a 1994 Bf6-31 about a year or two ago now. Two previous owners were hobbiest. Great condition. Runs great. Owner started at $7000. Three months later I was driving home with it for $3000. Been extremely satisfied with the machine. In hind sight probably would have paid more but I got stubborn over the deal.?
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Re: Adjustingearing jointer tables on BF6 #helps if no on
#helps
Had another look today, I can slacken off the bolts (13) but I don't see what will actually move the hinge?
Bolt 31 is the lock bolt for the slide to lock the table height.
There are 3? bolts going into the lower slide from underneath. Do these pull against the round pins? So if I slacken off the cross bolt going through the round pins (6 and 13) I can pull the hinge down by tightening the bolts underneath?
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Re: fitting later model outrigger tabel and swing arm to BF 6
I have a small outrigger and swing arm no slider tube or bracket ?FS Mac,,, Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jan 8, 2021, at 11:06 AM, Paul Curme <paul.curme@...> wrote:
?With the demise of the 6 Series compatible outrigger table and swing arm has anyone come up with a way of fitting the later Swing arm and table to this series of machine.
Granted it will require a fabricated mounting bracket for the arm and some machining to the table.
If someone has trodden this road before could they share the details before I spend the time working this out.
Thanks
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Re: Adjustingearing jointer tables on BF6 #helps if no on
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Yes Finicky at best 31 locks the adjustment I think, If I remember table also has some movement in relation to cutter ?head helps to fit closer. Swearing helps if no one is around! Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jan 9, 2021, at 4:06 AM, Paul Curme <paul.curme@...> wrote:
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Yes,? those are the ones.
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So I belive these are the adjusters? There are 2 allen bolts on each table hinge/slide. Each bolt goes through 2 round pins, which I assume raise or lower that side of the slide and therefore adjust the angle on the table fore and aft.
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Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping
Joe
I think you’re agreeing with me ?
Centrifugal switch - hold it in…like your FB 600
No centrifugal switch - like Felder single phase motors - ie like the Hammer C3-31
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On 9 Jan 2021, at 12:51, bacchus6015 via < joeinno@...> wrote:
Roger,
Felder still uses single phase motors that do not have centrifugal switches. ?
Although on my FB 600 bandsaw even though there was a big sticker on it that said it was necessary to hold down the switch the motor did have a centrifugal switch. ?
My CF731 shared a start and a run capacitor for three motors so it was necessary to hold the start button to keep the start cap in the circuit until the motor reached full speed. ?
Joe
On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:13 AM, Roger S <rsinden@...> wrote:
? Annu, I suggest that you speak to a technician who knows what he is talking about. ? Holding down the start button went out with centrifugal switches years ago.
Do the other functions work OK ? If they do then that kinda rules out the capacitors I would have thought.
I hope you get it sorted.?
Roger
Talked with the felder folk...gonna replace both the start and run capacitors. ?The electrical smell seems to be coming from that general area. ?Fingers crossed....
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