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For any of you who knew George well enough and live close enough, you are welcome to attend a memorial his children and I are having for him on August 14.? Let me know I will send the address.? Vaccinations or mask preferred!

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Re: Felder How To videos

 

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Steve,

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Thanks for the link.

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Imran

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Steve Wurster
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 1:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Felder How To videos

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Regarding the extremely small size of the videos on their website, it's easier to just go right to their YouTube channel:


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Has anyone Found a solution for this issue?


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Thanks Steve!


Be our guest at AWFS in Las Vegas!

 

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I use Drawer Connection for all my cabinet drawers, they do nice work very reasonable and they are local for me, so delivered assembled is great. They just emailed me this free admission voucher for the Vegas show, so I double checked if it was ok to post here, they said the more the merrier!

I think this saves you $25 a person, so worth it if you intend to attend the show.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




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Subject: Be our guest at AWFS in Las Vegas!
Date: May 6, 2021 at 12:42:16 PM MST

Dear valued customer,

It is our honor to invite you to be our guest at this years AWFS Fair in Las Vegas by giving you FREE admission! Click on the image below or on our home page at and register for your free admission using the code DRA081.? Stop on by our booth to say hi, then take advantage of everything the show has to offer from educational seminars, new product launches, exhibitor showcases and more. We can’t wait to see you there!

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Re: Felder How To videos

 

Regarding the extremely small size of the videos on their website, it's easier to just go right to their YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/FELDERGROUPTV/videos


Re: Felder How To videos

 

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Thanks Brian.

Imran

On May 6, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?I don’t do phones for internet stuff. Worked on my computer, but I did have to go full screen to enlarge the small video.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On May 6, 2021, at 9:25 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

I thought, I just checkout the how to video. On my iphone, I cannot go full screen or go to utube by touching on utube icon. Is it just me or same for everyone?

Imran

On May 6, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?Felder has started a video “How to” section on their website, might be helpful. They will also be at the Vegas show….

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...






Hi friends

We started a How To video section that I thought the FOG members might appreciate. It's very basic but would surely help some of the guys. It's on our web page under the Tips and do it yourself section. On another note we will be at the Vegas show this year, just with less machines and less staff, ?hope to see you then.

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Best Regards


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Re: Felder How To videos

 

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I don’t do phones for internet stuff. Worked on my computer, but I did have to go full screen to enlarge the small video.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On May 6, 2021, at 9:25 AM, imranindiana via <imranindiana@...> wrote:

I thought, I just checkout the how to video. On my iphone, I cannot go full screen or go to utube by touching on utube icon. Is it just me or same for everyone?

Imran

On May 6, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?Felder has started a video “How to” section on their website, might be helpful. They will also be at the Vegas show….

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...






Hi friends

We started a How To video section that I thought the FOG members might appreciate. It's very basic but would surely help some of the guys. It's on our web page under the Tips and do it yourself section. On another note we will be at the Vegas show this year, just with less machines and less staff, ?hope to see you then.

?


Best Regards


?
<Mail Attachment.gif>
Ruan duToit
FELDER GROUP USA
2 Lukens Drive, Suite 300
New Castle DE 19720
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+1 866-792-5288
r.dutoit@...


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I thought, I just checkout the how to video. On my iphone, I cannot go full screen or go to utube by touching on utube icon. Is it just me or same for everyone?

Imran

On May 6, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?Felder has started a video “How to” section on their website, might be helpful. They will also be at the Vegas show….

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com





Hi friends

We started a How To video section that I thought the FOG members might appreciate. It's very basic but would surely help some of the guys. It's on our web page under the Tips and do it yourself section. On another note we will be at the Vegas show this year, just with less machines and less staff, ?hope to see you then.

?


Best Regards


?
<Mail Attachment.gif>
Ruan duToit
FELDER GROUP USA
2 Lukens Drive, Suite 300
New Castle DE 19720
<Mail Attachment.gif>
+1 866-792-5288
r.dutoit@...


This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission or viruses.


Felder How To videos

 

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Felder has started a video “How to” section on their website, might be helpful. They will also be at the Vegas show….

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com





Hi friends

We started a How To video section that I thought the FOG members might appreciate. It's very basic but would surely help some of the guys. It's on our web page under the Tips and do it yourself section. On another note we will be at the Vegas show this year, just with less machines and less staff, ?hope to see you then.

?


Best Regards


?
Ruan duToit
FELDER GROUP USA
2 Lukens Drive, Suite 300
New Castle DE 19720
+1 866-792-5288
r.dutoit@...


This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission or viruses.


Re: Concrete vs Wood Exposure

 

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Just realized that mice can likely chew thru this seal. I think, I am just going to do the step 1 of grading to get the water to drain away. Tiller time soon.

Imran

On May 6, 2021, at 10:25 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Thanks Mac. All good points. All this discussion now because I would like to rip the last bad side of the door stile, instead of multiple passes of the 13’ 4x8 thru the planer. My saw can only do just under 13’ rip now because RL125 is along the wall facing outfeed and reducing my capability by ~3-4ft. So I need to trim the length of the 13’ stile by a few inches to rip them and wanted to finalize the threshold.

Imran

On May 6, 2021, at 9:37 AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:

?Imran,?
The articulating drop down seals work very nicely I would look for something with a lot ?of slop, with doors that large you might have trouble maintaining the accuracy they require.?
I believe the last ones I used had a gap of total 12mm. I also make a rub plate of SS and let into the bottom side jamb for activator to rub on .
All and all I agree with Glen and Jonathan use drop down seal , they work nicely.
Grinding a tapered concrete edge , adding a face drip cap , drop down seal and fixing grade.
All this is mute if the jambs and hinges are not A+.
mac,,,

<image.jpg>
10 years old?
Low profile handicap alu sill on a commercial door I built standard american style 68mm thick drop down seal shows how tight the space is. mac,,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 6, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:

?David if you are interested contact Rachael at Sotheby’s.?
Portland ,,, possibly May, very much looking forward to the trip.
You and grand kids how great is that!
mac,,,

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martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 6, 2021, at 2:14 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:

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Re: Concrete vs Wood Exposure

 

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Thanks Mac. All good points. All this discussion now because I would like to rip the last bad side of the door stile, instead of multiple passes of the 13’ 4x8 thru the planer. My saw can only do just under 13’ rip now because RL125 is along the wall facing outfeed and reducing my capability by ~3-4ft. So I need to trim the length of the 13’ stile by a few inches to rip them and wanted to finalize the threshold.

Imran

On May 6, 2021, at 9:37 AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:

?Imran,?
The articulating drop down seals work very nicely I would look for something with a lot ?of slop, with doors that large you might have trouble maintaining the accuracy they require.?
I believe the last ones I used had a gap of total 12mm. I also make a rub plate of SS and let into the bottom side jamb for activator to rub on .
All and all I agree with Glen and Jonathan use drop down seal , they work nicely.
Grinding a tapered concrete edge , adding a face drip cap , drop down seal and fixing grade.
All this is mute if the jambs and hinges are not A+.
mac,,,

<image.jpg>
10 years old?
Low profile handicap alu sill on a commercial door I built standard american style 68mm thick drop down seal shows how tight the space is. mac,,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 6, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:

?David if you are interested contact Rachael at Sotheby’s.?
Portland ,,, possibly May, very much looking forward to the trip.
You and grand kids how great is that!
mac,,,

?



martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 6, 2021, at 2:14 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:

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Re: Concrete vs Wood Exposure

 

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Imran,?
The articulating drop down seals work very nicely I would look for something with a lot ?of slop, with doors that large you might have trouble maintaining the accuracy they require.?
I believe the last ones I used had a gap of total 12mm. I also make a rub plate of SS and let into the bottom side jamb for activator to rub on .
All and all I agree with Glen and Jonathan use drop down seal , they work nicely.
Grinding a tapered concrete edge , adding a face drip cap , drop down seal and fixing grade.
All this is mute if the jambs and hinges are not A+.
mac,,,

10 years old?
Low profile handicap alu sill on a commercial door I built standard american style 68mm thick drop down seal shows how tight the space is. mac,,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 6, 2021, at 8:16 AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:

?David if you are interested contact Rachael at Sotheby’s.?
Portland ,,, possibly May, very much looking forward to the trip.
You and grand kids how great is that!
mac,,,

?



martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 6, 2021, at 2:14 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:

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Re: Concrete vs Wood Exposure

 

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David if you are interested contact Rachael at Sotheby’s.?
Portland ,,, possibly May, very much looking forward to the trip.
You and grand kids how great is that!
mac,,,

?



martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On May 6, 2021, at 2:14 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:

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Re: Concrete vs Wood Exposure

 

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Jonathan,

Thanks for the ideas. Glen shared similar articulating seal. I am looking into that.

Imran?

On May 6, 2021, at 12:05 AM, Jonathan Martens <jonathan@...> wrote:

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On May 6, 2021 06:02, Jonathan Martens <jonathan@...> wrote:
On May 6, 2021 05:58, Jonathan Martens <jonathan@...> wrote:
No, I would what we Dutch call a 'valdorpel', which might be more convenient and keeps your current low threshold and clearance.

When the door is opened the weatherstrip pulls up, when closing the door it lowers and seals the slot between bottom of the door and threshold/floor:

Here is a random link for? picture says more than a thousand words:

https://www.schreuderenco.nl/valdorpel-planet-hs-1085-960-mm

You could use it together with this threshold for (even better) watertightness.?

https://www.schreuderenco.nl/buitendeurdorpel-planet-f140

Apart from that we almost always use the drip as shown in sketch by Martin in this thread.?

Regards,?

Jonathan?


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Mark,

The concrete in the doorway is 1/4” lower than the interior slab. The 2’ pad outside the doorway has minimal slope due to grading challenge. The rough grading is just shy of what it needs to be. I actually improved it but our underground landline was limiting the depth. We no longer have the landline so I can go lower now.

If we ever get a motorhome, the entire path road to door (~60’) will need grading for proper entry/exit. Do not really want to do that now because if we get an RV instead (~10’ tall with roof AC), we won’t need much grading. So I was hoping to do final grading in couple of years when we know what we are going with.

Imran?

On May 6, 2021, at 1:22 AM, mark thomas <murkyd@...> wrote:

?I don't quite get it, a cross section would be better.? Is the inner floor is an inch and a half or so higher elevation than the outside slab?? Does the outer slab actually slope toward the door and water pools?? ?A wood threshold sitting submerged in water is definitely not a good plan.? But if it doesn't actually flow toward the door, and the issue is that it only slopes away slightly so doesn't drain too fast, then a linear drain (incorrectly referred to as "french drain") is a big investment for minor gain.? ?I installed a linear drain at my shop doors and it works great, but I have no threshold and inside and outside floors are same level and the rain pounds directly agains the doors (and then drops down into the drain), so the $10K or so it cost to install was worth it, but it doesn't sound like your situation warrants that.


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Glen,

Pemko 411 type seal is probably best for my situation. I will call them to see if they make a 6’ long version. Thanks.

Imran

On May 6, 2021, at 12:20 AM, Glen Christensen <grchris1966@...> wrote:

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Imran,
How about a grated trench drain and if need be grinding a slop on the shop part of the slab to flow water to the drain?
I would get rid of the stop as they suck if your wheeling carts in and out and are just a trip hazzard.
Use a Pemko 411 drop seal which will give you 1/2" of space off the floor and seal the bottom of the door. Pemko makes a lot of variations of the 411 but you have to be careful as some you can only shorten so much. I thnk the 420 or something will give you 3/4" space.
Glen
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 486
?????????? Murphys , CA. 95247
Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road
????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 209-540-7501
LIC # 707507


On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 3:15 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
So for this storage room door, I prefer the threshold is not too high. I can do what I did for my shop. The threshold is on the interior and the back side of the door touches it. Threshold acts like a stop and has weatherstrip in it. So the bottom of the door is exposed to concrete. I wanted low threshold for moving equipment in and out and this has worked fine for 16+ yrs.

The difference in this shed’s case is that while water sheds away from my shop door, right now the rain water does flow over the concrete pad in front of the door. This can be remedied by better grading to some extent but is a result of maximizing the height of door opening to be able to accommodate a 12’ high clearance. So for a worst case scenario assume that after rain the water may pool on the low side corner of the door opening.

So if I place the threshold behind the door, I expect that the concrete will be wet for some time after it rains, at least under the left corner. If I extend the wood threshold under the door, let’s say 3/4” thick, it will push water away but will likely absorb moisture in the process. Do you guys think having wood threshold under the door will be worthwhile?

Imran






Re: Working Time of West System Epoxy

 

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Hi Glen,

The idea to recoat is to ensure that sufficient epoxy exists, i.e. it has not been absorbed by the substrate, so the joint is not starved of adhesive. Pic below from user manual, talks about doing it no later than when it starts to becomes tacky. However, you have all of the working time to assemble and clamp.

I suggest downloading the user manual if you have not yet, lots of good info.




Imran

On May 6, 2021, at 12:12 AM, Glen Christensen <grchris1966@...> wrote:

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Imran, Thank you,
I switched to another product for the totem pole due to how hot it got. However this is good because I haven't glued up my test curve yet and this makes me feel more confident.
I believe someone said to coat the surfaces and let them soak and coat again on assembly. I can't remember.
Glen
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 486
?????????? Murphys , CA. 95247
Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road
????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 209-540-7501
LIC # 707507


On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 8:15 AM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
Glen,

I came across the working time of west system extra slow hardner. It is much longer than pot life, 3-4 hrs. Probably too late but something to remember.






Imran






Re: Concrete vs Wood Exposure

 

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Mac, this is priceless - have you considered selling?non-fungible token for it? ?When are you coming back to Portland?

David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/


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Re: Concrete vs Wood Exposure

 

I don't quite get it, a cross section would be better.? Is the inner floor is an inch and a half or so higher elevation than the outside slab?? Does the outer slab actually slope toward the door and water pools?? ?A wood threshold sitting submerged in water is definitely not a good plan.? But if it doesn't actually flow toward the door, and the issue is that it only slopes away slightly so doesn't drain too fast, then a linear drain (incorrectly referred to as "french drain") is a big investment for minor gain.? ?I installed a linear drain at my shop doors and it works great, but I have no threshold and inside and outside floors are same level and the rain pounds directly agains the doors (and then drops down into the drain), so the $10K or so it cost to install was worth it, but it doesn't sound like your situation warrants that.