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Re: Double Electric Wall Ovens & Induction Cooktops Aaron Inami All Messages By This Member #139077 Unfortunately, the refrigerator industry nowadays is pretty crappy.? It started about 15-18 years ago.? The manufacturers are now producing short-lifetime products.? The biggest problem is the computer boards are made using short-term or low temp electronics (the capacitors are the likeliest element to fail).? And once the computer controller board fails, it's at least an $800 purchase to fix it.? On $$$$ refrigerators, it could be a couple to several thousand dollars.? The dual-zone refrigerators are also poorly designed and have had problems (the ones with independent compressors/cooling for the frig and freezer sections).?? ? Probably the most reliable refrigerators today are the GE type with single compressor and mechanical controls (no computer control systems).? Top-freezer units are the most reliable and side-by-side are generally okay.? The bottom freezer units typically have more problems.? I don't know about stuff like Viking and Subzero, so others need to comment on the reliability of these $$$$ units. ? By the way, I still have a 24 year old GE side-by-side refrigerator that I have had minor repairs done to over the years.? I will keep running it until I can't.? So far the compressor and refrigerant has not had any problems. ? -Aaron Inami
Re: How much pressure does your pin nailer require? imran All Messages By This Member #139076 开云体育 Hi Brett, Thanks for the detailed response.?I did buy Grex pins and?used the oil it came with. Thanks for the spring hammer tip. Appears they work like a spring punch but have a cup end instead of a point. Listening to you and Tom, what I have is acceptable but if it performed like that at 90-100 PSI range. I will be back in shop on Monday and do some testing and also give Grex a call. Imran Malik IAM Wood Creations toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Jan 1, 2025, at 8:54?PM, Brett Wissel via groups.io <Brettwissel@...> wrote: then shoot again. Double tapping helps the pins hold better purchase at opposing angles, too, compared to straight shots. When trim nailiing, I always carry nail sets and my preference is for the Spring Tools variety
Re: How much pressure does your pin nailer require? Brett Wissel All Messages By This Member #139075 RE: 23ga pinners .... I don't like any shop tool nailers firing over 90psi without specific regulator?adjustment up and then back down. I find they hold up and hold setting positions better. Framing nailers excluded. That said, I often run 23ga pinners including our Grex, Porter Cable,? and Harbor Frieght....down around 80-90psi with no issues. I suspect if this is a new gun you need to add some lube somewhere, disassemble/reassemble, adjust and recheck, as I bet the mechanism is binding or out of adjustment. If all checks out otherwise, next advise to run out a 1000 shots or so to run it in and reevaluate. Next troubleshooting is the pins you are shooting. 23ga tools can be sensitive.. We only run Grex pins in our Grex pinner for consistency, but other pinners will happily run other brands with consistent driving and consistent freedom from jamming. Some pinners don't care if you load the pins backward, others do. I concur with Tom's assessment that the best setup?still misses setting every shot perfectly, and sometimes dry fires in the middle of a run. I counteract this by using a double-tap technique where I shoot toenail one direct, slightly rock the angle, then shoot again. Double tapping helps the pins hold better purchase at opposing angles, too, compared to straight shots. When trim nailiing, I always carry nail sets and my preference is for the Spring Tools variety of spring hammer sets, though they break and need replacing regularly enough. 23 ga are too small for most nail set cupped heads, but the flat/solid usually tap to flush just fine. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 6:51?PM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote: Thanks Tom. I will see if it even comes close to sinking 1 3/8” pins. Imran Malik IAM Wood Creations On Jan 1, 2025, at 7:03?PM, Tom Gensmer via <tom=[email protected]> wrote: ? Hi Imran,? ? My bad, yes I meant to say that the Makita compressors (well, at least the MAC 700 and MAC 2400) have adjustable pressure switches. Back when I was using a Mac 700 as my "daily driver" on-site air compressor, I cranked-up the cut-in pressure to close to 115psi so it could keep up with a framing nailer. The adjustments could be a little fussy, as even though the pressure switch had separate adjustments for cut-in and cut-out pressure, adjusting one would seem to still adjust the other, and my memory is that setting the cut-in pressure at 115psi made the cut-out pressure closer to 140-150psi. I don't doubt that I reduced the life span of the pump but running it hard, but at ~$250 these little compressors are essentially disposable. Not sure I'd mess with a larger/more expensive compressor.? ? My current shop compressor is a Makita MAC 2400, and I've just left the pressure switch as it came from the factory, I believe it cuts in at 100psi, cuts out at 130psi. I run my lines at 100psi, and since I really don't have any high-draw air tools it's worked fine.? ? Circling back to the 23ga nailers, I've had a Cadex (which was stolen) and my current Hitachi. Both work great, with the acknowledgement that neither nailer sank 100% of the pins. Typically, if a pin is left proud I'll nip it with a flush cutting pliers (I also consider these disposable, since cutting nails will eventually mess up the jaws), then if necessary I'll tap the surface with a hammer to seat the nub truly flush with the surface.? ? I would suggest that if your pinner is sinking "most" of the nails, it would be in alignment with my experience running two different nailers, having driven thousands of 23ga pins.? -- Tom Gensmer Heritage Home Renewals, LLC Minneapolis, MN -- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
Re: Double Electric Wall Ovens & Induction Cooktops David P. Best All Messages By This Member #139074 开云体育 Totally agree with their advice. Samsung has had numerous class action law suits over their refrigerators. ?I ended up bringing an action against them directly and got a hefty settlement, but what a huge hassle. ?Go to YouTube and search “Samsung suit refrigerator”. ?? David Best - via mobile phone? toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Jan 1, 2025, at 3:40?PM, David Davies via groups.io <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote: ? We were looking at Samsung refrigerators today and a couple came up to us and told us to stay away from them. Dave Davies On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 5:36?PM Jason Holtz via <jholtzy=[email protected]> wrote: Forgot to mention our Samsung Bespoke series fridge. French doors over freezer drawer configuration. The front is all glass, and you can customize colors. We have 3 different color panels on ours. It's got a great door within a door beverage center which is super handy. So easy to clean the glass I would never go back to stainless.? Jason Holtz J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 612.432.2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 -- Dave & Marie Davies 318-219-7868
Re: How much pressure does your pin nailer require? imran All Messages By This Member #139073 开云体育 Thanks Tom. I will see if it even comes close to sinking 1 3/8” pins. Imran Malik IAM Wood Creations toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Jan 1, 2025, at 7:03?PM, Tom Gensmer via groups.io <tom@...> wrote: ? Hi Imran,? ? My bad, yes I meant to say that the Makita compressors (well, at least the MAC 700 and MAC 2400) have adjustable pressure switches. Back when I was using a Mac 700 as my "daily driver" on-site air compressor, I cranked-up the cut-in pressure to close to 115psi so it could keep up with a framing nailer. The adjustments could be a little fussy, as even though the pressure switch had separate adjustments for cut-in and cut-out pressure, adjusting one would seem to still adjust the other, and my memory is that setting the cut-in pressure at 115psi made the cut-out pressure closer to 140-150psi. I don't doubt that I reduced the life span of the pump but running it hard, but at ~$250 these little compressors are essentially disposable. Not sure I'd mess with a larger/more expensive compressor.? ? My current shop compressor is a Makita MAC 2400, and I've just left the pressure switch as it came from the factory, I believe it cuts in at 100psi, cuts out at 130psi. I run my lines at 100psi, and since I really don't have any high-draw air tools it's worked fine.? ? Circling back to the 23ga nailers, I've had a Cadex (which was stolen) and my current Hitachi. Both work great, with the acknowledgement that neither nailer sank 100% of the pins. Typically, if a pin is left proud I'll nip it with a flush cutting pliers (I also consider these disposable, since cutting nails will eventually mess up the jaws), then if necessary I'll tap the surface with a hammer to seat the nub truly flush with the surface.? ? I would suggest that if your pinner is sinking "most" of the nails, it would be in alignment with my experience running two different nailers, having driven thousands of 23ga pins.? -- Tom Gensmer Heritage Home Renewals, LLC Minneapolis, MN
Re: How much pressure does your pin nailer require? Tom Gensmer All Messages By This Member #139072 Hi Imran,? ? My bad, yes I meant to say that the Makita compressors (well, at least the MAC 700 and MAC 2400) have adjustable pressure switches. Back when I was using a Mac 700 as my "daily driver" on-site air compressor, I cranked-up the cut-in pressure to close to 115psi so it could keep up with a framing nailer. The adjustments could be a little fussy, as even though the pressure switch had separate adjustments for cut-in and cut-out pressure, adjusting one would seem to still adjust the other, and my memory is that setting the cut-in pressure at 115psi made the cut-out pressure closer to 140-150psi. I don't doubt that I reduced the life span of the pump but running it hard, but at ~$250 these little compressors are essentially disposable. Not sure I'd mess with a larger/more expensive compressor.? ? My current shop compressor is a Makita MAC 2400, and I've just left the pressure switch as it came from the factory, I believe it cuts in at 100psi, cuts out at 130psi. I run my lines at 100psi, and since I really don't have any high-draw air tools it's worked fine.? ? Circling back to the 23ga nailers, I've had a Cadex (which was stolen) and my current Hitachi. Both work great, with the acknowledgement that neither nailer sank 100% of the pins. Typically, if a pin is left proud I'll nip it with a flush cutting pliers (I also consider these disposable, since cutting nails will eventually mess up the jaws), then if necessary I'll tap the surface with a hammer to seat the nub truly flush with the surface.? ? I would suggest that if your pinner is sinking "most" of the nails, it would be in alignment with my experience running two different nailers, having driven thousands of 23ga pins.? -- Tom Gensmer Heritage Home Renewals, LLC Minneapolis, MN
Re: Double Electric Wall Ovens & Induction Cooktops John Hinman All Messages By This Member #139071 The single most important factor for me when choosing our refrigerator was that the door was NOT magnetic. No notes, lists, pictures, or grandkids artwork festooned on the ‘fridge door.? -- John Hinman Boise ID Kappa 450X and A941
Re: Double Electric Wall Ovens & Induction Cooktops David Davies All Messages By This Member #139070 We were looking at Samsung refrigerators today and a couple came up to us and told us to stay away from them. Dave Davies toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 5:36?PM Jason Holtz via <jholtzy=[email protected]> wrote: Forgot to mention our Samsung Bespoke series fridge. French doors over freezer drawer configuration. The front is all glass, and you can customize colors. We have 3 different color panels on ours. It's got a great door within a door beverage center which is super handy. So easy to clean the glass I would never go back to stainless.? Jason Holtz J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 612.432.2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 -- Dave & Marie Davies 318-219-7868
Re: How much pressure does your pin nailer require? imran All Messages By This Member #139069 开云体育 Hi Tom, ? Good to know that there are pin nailers out there that work at reasonable pressure. On that note, I have not even tried sinking 1 3/8” (max on Grex). I plan to call the company next week, maybe there is something wrong with the nailer. I just looked up the spec on Grex it does 3/8” to 1 3/8”, I really liked that range. ? Yes, I can punch them but it leaves an unsightly hole. Kindof defeats the reason to get a pin nailer in the first place. I could not find a smaller punch specifically made for the 23 ga pins. I was happily surprised that the flush pins did not tear the sanding disc. On internet, it mentined that one can dry fire the nailer to reset the proud pin. I can’t imagine being able to line up the nailer that well. Would like to hear from others if this is even viable. ? Help me understand the pressure regulator trick. I only have adjustable regulator on the output. In this case I set it to just above 110 PSI. Maybe you are talking about the pressure switch, which depending upon the model allows cut-in & cut-out adjustment? If so, I would be interested in a pressure switch that can be set to 110-135 range. I have not done an exhaustive search but here is one pressure switch that provides a big range of models but it does not provide min cut-in near 110 without going to a cut-out pressure of 140. ? https://www.hubbelldirect.com/Products/Pressure%20Switches/PDF/Catalog%204269J.pdf ? Here is the relevant table from the datasheet above, 5^th line, min cut-in is 99 PSI for Cut-out of 135 PSI: ? ? Imran Malik IAM Wood Creations ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Tom Gensmer via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2025 6:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] How much pressure does your pin nailer require? ? Hi Imran,? ? My Hitachi 23ga pinner generally runs fine ~100psi. That being said, it does not sink 1-3/8" pins in hardwoods 100% of the time. My solution is to keep a flush-cutting pliers nearby for the random pin which doesn't fully sink, or a nail punch. ? ? Regarding the cut-in pressure, have you experimented with adjusting your regulator? Most of my Makita air compressors have an adjustable regulator, I usually set them so cut-in pressure is ~110psi, cut-out pressure ~135psi. This means I'm usually not starved for air, particularly handy when using framing nailers.? ? The alternative is the Max high pressure compressors, which have a cut-in pressure ~400psi, but these are admittedly a niche product: ? -- Tom Gensmer Heritage Home Renewals, LLC Minneapolis, MN
Re: Double Electric Wall Ovens & Induction Cooktops Jason Holtz All Messages By This Member #139068 Forgot to mention our Samsung Bespoke series fridge. French doors over freezer drawer configuration. The front is all glass, and you can customize colors. We have 3 different color panels on ours. It's got a great door within a door beverage center which is super handy. So easy to clean the glass I would never go back to stainless.? Jason Holtz J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 612.432.2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
Re: How much pressure does your pin nailer require? Tom Gensmer All Messages By This Member #139067 Hi Imran,? ? My Hitachi 23ga pinner generally runs fine ~100psi. That being said, it does not sink 1-3/8" pins in hardwoods 100% of the time. My solution is to keep a flush-cutting pliers nearby for the random pin which doesn't fully sink, or a nail punch. ? ? Regarding the cut-in pressure, have you experimented with adjusting your regulator? Most of my Makita air compressors have an adjustable regulator, I usually set them so cut-in pressure is ~110psi, cut-out pressure ~135psi. This means I'm usually not starved for air, particularly handy when using framing nailers.? ? The alternative is the Max high pressure compressors, which have a cut-in pressure ~400psi, but these are admittedly a niche product: ? -- Tom Gensmer Heritage Home Renewals, LLC Minneapolis, MN
How much pressure does your pin nailer require? imran All Messages By This Member #139066 开云体育 Okay guy, I bought a 23 ga pin nailer for the cabinet door project. After research I landed on Grex P635L. I like that it can do 1/2” pins and the offset jig is nice.

I am getting used to the 2 lever trigger as this model does not have the typical depressible nose to arm the trigger.

It also does not have the typical adjustable depth setting, instead the air pressure needs to be increased.

Surprisingly it wants at least 110PSI to ensure the 5/8” pin is set below the surface. Even though this project is hard maple, this pressure is much higher than I expected. I typically run all of my nailers at 90 PSI, without issues.

Issue is that 110 PSI is higher than my compressors cut in pressure and I have to keep an eye on the pressure. I already have one pin above surface to deal with. I looked into adjusting the pressure switch but can’t guarantee minimum cut-in of 110 PSI without going over 135 PSI maximum cutout. A new switch is same (109-140), presumably due to differential pressure requirement.

All this to ask, are there 23 ga pin nailers that don’t require pressure over 100 PSI?

Imran Malik

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