We¡¯re also building our new house, we¡¯re going with mostly Miele, Thermador freedom induction cooktop since you can move the pot anywhere, pretty cool. ?Going to get Gaggenau fridge and freezer mostly due to looks, the interior is very nice with cast aluminum shelves, sold!! ?
Turns out Miele, Thermador and Gaggenau fridges are all basically identical, made in the same factory, the interior finish is the only distinguishable difference. ?Weird since Gaggenau is from Bosch, Thermador is a US company and Miele is German.?
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On Jan 1, 2025, at 9:41?AM, Jeff via groups.io <onehpbmw@...> wrote:
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I had a Dacor standalone range.? The (gas) top was wonderful.? The oven always had issues, not just with maintaining temps but with the glass breaking twice--the replacement glass was still on backorder when I moved from that house.? I have never had that issue with any other manufacturer's products, not even the cheapest apartment rental ones.? Their customer service also sucked--I moved from an area with natural gas to one with propane, and it took a special dispensation from the Pope (and many months) for the adapters to be sent and installed.? This was just outside of Washington DC, not in some sort of "flyover territory".
I have a French door LG refrigerator which has been perfect, knock wood.? Friends with Samsung have been very unhappy with their longevity and need for repairs.?
Also a Bertazzoni speed oven (combination microwave and grill) which has a very cool looking badge and nothing else to recommend it.? It has never worked right from the day it was installed--I use a countertop Breville to do most of what it is supposed to do, and a cheap panasonic microwave in the next room to do the rest.? Both take up counter?space that wouldn't have been needed if the Bertazzoni actually worked.? It is almost sufficient for melting butter.? Sometimes.?
Fisher-Paykel drawer dishwasher, which, with just two of us and the ability to run one drawer at a time, I love.? In addition to Blue Star for ovens, I'd also take a look at American Range.? The appliance company with which I dealt (and which has provided absolutely NO aftermarket service) strongly recommended GE Monogram over Blue Star or American due to service considerations.? As I've gotten no service from GE either, I wish I'd gone with one of the other two.? No guarantee they'd have functioned any more reliably, but it is unlikely they'd have been less so.? The pull-out behind the ovens is both one of the most useful things in this kitchen, and a wonderful use of wasted space.? The cabinet over the ovens is like a vertical file system, partitioned for easy storage and access of baking pans, cookie sheets, etc.? Most of the upper cabinets have Aventos (Blum) hinges for complete access.? Most of the lower cabinets are drawers.? Jeff
On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 12:08?PM Steven Lawrence via <steven.d.lawrence=
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First post here. ? Been reading woodworking comments and learning for about a year. ? Thanks to all for sharing their experiences and wisdom.?
I can comment on Dacor.?
Range is great.? Wall ovens have been a huge mistake.? Circuit board on both ovens failed after warranty expired and was expensive to replace.? Ovens have never been accurate on temperature settings, run lower than setting.? Have an oven thermometer in each to get the real temp. ?
Based on my experience I would avoid entire Dacor line. ?
Last refrigerator purchased was an LG in French door style on sale at Home Depot.? That has been great. ?
Best
Steve Lawrence
On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 09:11 Brandon Nickel via <brandon.nickel=
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We have a 48" Dacor gas/electric range and a 42" Dacor built-in refrigerator. The oven(s) frequently refuse to hold correct temperature, stubbornly maintaining exactly 20-30¡ã low. Though, sometimes being exactly right. The infuriating thing is that if you set it to 500¡ã+ to kick on the preheat, the temp reads exactly correctly as it starts to climb, so the thing knows what the current temperature is. Not a calibration issue.
We love the extra space on the six burner cooktop, which is why we choose Dacor over Thermador or others. Most 48" ranges have 8 "small" burners. But the oven issue is massively annoying and we fought it constantly. Not great for a $12k appliance?
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The fridge is made by Samsung and I've already had to put in a new compressor at 5 years which isn't great for a $10k fridge. My last Sears Kenmore was still going strong at 15 years. Other than that, we like it.?
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I suspect all the brands have their issues. I would look at warranty and service options more closely if I were starting over.?
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