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Have you confirmed that the impeller is rotating in the correct direction? ?It will suck sawdust even if running backward but will put out a lot more heat.
My RL-160 does emit heat, and will drive up the shop temperature a few degrees when used for long periods.
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 8:45?AM, Bryce Comer via groups.io <bryce@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I just picked up a used RL200 and have a few questions. I have it up and running & been working through some little niggles over the past couple of days.?
Firstly, the filters were pretty clogged up. Turns out the brushes weren't contacting the filter, so that problem was solved quite easily with a simple adjustment.
Secondly, the right hand bag was being sucked up and was even damaged (presumably when the filters were being cleaned). That too was easily rectified with some extra foam tape to seal up a small gap in the seal between the unit and the bin.
I have ordered parts to get the auto start up and running and look forward to having that feature on the machine. I may be looking for some help here with the install. :)
The question i have for those with an RL160 or 200 is do you notice much heat coming from the machine when it is running? Nice for our Canadian winters, but i'm a little concerned about the summer! The filters are clean, & i have been running the machine for hours at a time over the weekend on a job with no overload or any other issues. The suction is fantastic and the filters are auto cleaning when i stop the machine. It certainly seems to be working well and while i expect a certain amount of heat to be generated due to the nature of the machine, i just want to make sure the amount of heat being generated is normal. I have a 11' high mezanine above roughly 1/2 of my shop, and the RL200 sits about half way along it, i am concerned about getting rid of that heat in the sumer.?
Thanks in advance,
Bryce
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Hi Bryce:
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Thanks for your post. With regard to the heat, I wonder whether you have been running it without ducting, or without much ducting while you sort out the niggles? If so, the RL machines (and most extractors
I imagine) are not designed to run very long without ducting. The RLs will definitely overheat, as they need the ¡®back pressure¡¯ (if that is the correct description) of reasonable amounts of ducting (several metres), otherwise the motor and impeller will work
at above max-amps (with associated over heating).
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My RL160 did not get hot at all. My RL250 does not get hot at all. Sure, the motor must warm up considerably on extended use, but it must be over-hot if you can feel heat-transfer to the sheet-metal surrounding,
or if the air exhaust is noticeably hot. In such cases, I would be wanting to assess motor issues going forward.
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Warm regards,
Lucky
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David Luckensmeyer
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I just picked up a used RL200 and have a few questions. I have it up and running & been working through some little niggles over the past couple of days.?
Firstly, the filters were pretty clogged up. Turns out the brushes weren't contacting the filter, so that problem was solved quite easily with a simple adjustment.
Secondly, the right hand bag was being sucked up and was even damaged (presumably when the filters were being cleaned). That too was easily rectified with some extra foam tape to seal up a small gap in the
seal between the unit and the bin.
I have ordered parts to get the auto start up and running and look forward to having that feature on the machine. I may be looking for some help here with the install. :)
The question i have for those with an RL160 or 200 is do you notice much heat coming from the machine when it is running? Nice for our Canadian winters, but i'm a little concerned about the summer! The filters
are clean, & i have been running the machine for hours at a time over the weekend on a job with no overload or any other issues. The suction is fantastic and the filters are auto cleaning when i stop the machine. It certainly seems to be working well and while
i expect a certain amount of heat to be generated due to the nature of the machine, i just want to make sure the amount of heat being generated is normal. I have a 11' high mezanine above roughly 1/2 of my shop, and the RL200 sits about half way along it,
i am concerned about getting rid of that heat in the sumer.?
https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw
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Re: Felder Disintegrating Hose
Major or minor? All in the eyes of the beholder. It was a major pain in the ass to fix, especially with no guidance or assistance from the manufacturer. Just sayin¡¯ Chris Rozycki?
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 2:33?PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Chris, I am sure you can make just as good a product as Felder on your Hammer. Just have to deal with some minor annoyances ?
On Oct 28, 2024, at 2:28?PM, Christopher Rozycki via groups.io <croz1950@...> wrote:
? Thanks Imran! I guess that¡¯s what I get for buying a $15,000 hobby horse instead of a real horse ?! My bad! Chris Rozycki? On Oct 28, 2024, at 11:50?AM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
? Bill Belanger of fog may be able to help! Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 28, 2024, at 10:49?AM, mac campshure <mac512002@...> wrote:
? Paul on the side of the pond are use air handling contact is Kae?
Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 28, 2024, at 10:24?AM, Christopher Rozycki via groups.io <croz1950@...> wrote:
? How hard would it be to design and make a rectangular-to-round, metal, flexible adapter for the Felder/ Hammer saws that would simplify the transition and replacement? And why don¡¯t these really expensive saws come already equipped with that connector?? Seems like a really flawed design by Felder. Am I missing something?? Chris Rozycki? Hammer C3-31 owner Croz1950@... On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:57?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I purchased a 5¡± spiral hose from woodcraft which was the least flexible but super heavy duty.
This is what I use on the saw and since the blade swings to 45, it is very helpful that it is flexible and collapsible. At least if it doesn¡¯t fit the bill it can be returned easily.
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:37?AM, Jarrett Maxwell via groups.io <j.a.max7@...> wrote:
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Hey Paul,?
I recently purchased 4" dust hose from woodcraft that was surprisingly flexible. You may check their offerings to see what's available.?
Jarrett
Just a word of warning. I had a long length of Felder hose on my CF731. After it failed I bought a similar spec locally but it was too inflexible. So I ordered a replacement from Felder and it turned out also to be very inflexible? despite the website claiming otherwise. I have still to source a suitable supplier
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Re: Felder Disintegrating Hose
Chris, I am sure you can make just as good a product as Felder on your Hammer. Just have to deal with some minor annoyances ?
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 2:28?PM, Christopher Rozycki via groups.io <croz1950@...> wrote: ? Thanks Imran! I guess that¡¯s what I get for buying a $15,000 hobby horse instead of a real horse ?! My bad! Chris Rozycki? On Oct 28, 2024, at 11:50?AM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
? Bill Belanger of fog may be able to help! Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 28, 2024, at 10:49?AM, mac campshure <mac512002@...> wrote:
? Paul on the side of the pond are use air handling contact is Kae?
Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 28, 2024, at 10:24?AM, Christopher Rozycki via groups.io <croz1950@...> wrote:
? How hard would it be to design and make a rectangular-to-round, metal, flexible adapter for the Felder/ Hammer saws that would simplify the transition and replacement? And why don¡¯t these really expensive saws come already equipped with that connector?? Seems like a really flawed design by Felder. Am I missing something?? Chris Rozycki? Hammer C3-31 owner Croz1950@... On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:57?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I purchased a 5¡± spiral hose from woodcraft which was the least flexible but super heavy duty.
This is what I use on the saw and since the blade swings to 45, it is very helpful that it is flexible and collapsible. At least if it doesn¡¯t fit the bill it can be returned easily.
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:37?AM, Jarrett Maxwell via groups.io <j.a.max7@...> wrote:
?
Hey Paul,?
I recently purchased 4" dust hose from woodcraft that was surprisingly flexible. You may check their offerings to see what's available.?
Jarrett
Just a word of warning. I had a long length of Felder hose on my CF731. After it failed I bought a similar spec locally but it was too inflexible. So I ordered a replacement from Felder and it turned out also to be very inflexible? despite the website claiming otherwise. I have still to source a suitable supplier
--
Paul Mc Cann
Re: Felder Disintegrating Hose
Thanks Imran! I guess that¡¯s what I get for buying a $15,000 hobby horse instead of a real horse ?! My bad! Chris Rozycki?
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 11:50?AM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
? Bill Belanger of fog may be able to help! Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 28, 2024, at 10:49?AM, mac campshure <mac512002@...> wrote:
? Paul on the side of the pond are use air handling contact is Kae?
Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 28, 2024, at 10:24?AM, Christopher Rozycki via groups.io <croz1950@...> wrote:
? How hard would it be to design and make a rectangular-to-round, metal, flexible adapter for the Felder/ Hammer saws that would simplify the transition and replacement? And why don¡¯t these really expensive saws come already equipped with that connector?? Seems like a really flawed design by Felder. Am I missing something?? Chris Rozycki? Hammer C3-31 owner Croz1950@... On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:57?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I purchased a 5¡± spiral hose from woodcraft which was the least flexible but super heavy duty.
This is what I use on the saw and since the blade swings to 45, it is very helpful that it is flexible and collapsible. At least if it doesn¡¯t fit the bill it can be returned easily.
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:37?AM, Jarrett Maxwell via groups.io <j.a.max7@...> wrote:
?
Hey Paul,?
I recently purchased 4" dust hose from woodcraft that was surprisingly flexible. You may check their offerings to see what's available.?
Jarrett
Just a word of warning. I had a long length of Felder hose on my CF731. After it failed I bought a similar spec locally but it was too inflexible. So I ordered a replacement from Felder and it turned out also to be very inflexible? despite the website claiming otherwise. I have still to source a suitable supplier
--
Paul Mc Cann
Re: Felder Disintegrating Hose
Bill Belanger of fog may be able to help! Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 10:49?AM, mac campshure <mac512002@...> wrote:
? Paul on the side of the pond are use air handling contact is Kae?
Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 28, 2024, at 10:24?AM, Christopher Rozycki via groups.io <croz1950@...> wrote:
? How hard would it be to design and make a rectangular-to-round, metal, flexible adapter for the Felder/ Hammer saws that would simplify the transition and replacement? And why don¡¯t these really expensive saws come already equipped with that connector?? Seems like a really flawed design by Felder. Am I missing something?? Chris Rozycki? Hammer C3-31 owner Croz1950@... On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:57?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I purchased a 5¡± spiral hose from woodcraft which was the least flexible but super heavy duty.
This is what I use on the saw and since the blade swings to 45, it is very helpful that it is flexible and collapsible. At least if it doesn¡¯t fit the bill it can be returned easily.
|
On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:37?AM, Jarrett Maxwell via groups.io <j.a.max7@...> wrote:
?
Hey Paul,?
I recently purchased 4" dust hose from woodcraft that was surprisingly flexible. You may check their offerings to see what's available.?
Jarrett
Just a word of warning. I had a long length of Felder hose on my CF731. After it failed I bought a similar spec locally but it was too inflexible. So I ordered a replacement from Felder and it turned out also to be very inflexible? despite the website claiming otherwise. I have still to source a suitable supplier
--
Paul Mc Cann
Re: Felder Disintegrating Hose
Paul on the side of the pond are use air handling contact is Kae?
Designing and building for 50 years
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 10:24?AM, Christopher Rozycki via groups.io <croz1950@...> wrote:
? How hard would it be to design and make a rectangular-to-round, metal, flexible adapter for the Felder/ Hammer saws that would simplify the transition and replacement? And why don¡¯t these really expensive saws come already equipped with that connector?? Seems like a really flawed design by Felder. Am I missing something?? Chris Rozycki? Hammer C3-31 owner Croz1950@... On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:57?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I purchased a 5¡± spiral hose from woodcraft which was the least flexible but super heavy duty.
This is what I use on the saw and since the blade swings to 45, it is very helpful that it is flexible and collapsible. At least if it doesn¡¯t fit the bill it can be returned easily.
|
On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:37?AM, Jarrett Maxwell via groups.io <j.a.max7@...> wrote:
?
Hey Paul,?
I recently purchased 4" dust hose from woodcraft that was surprisingly flexible. You may check their offerings to see what's available.?
Jarrett
Just a word of warning. I had a long length of Felder hose on my CF731. After it failed I bought a similar spec locally but it was too inflexible. So I ordered a replacement from Felder and it turned out also to be very inflexible? despite the website claiming otherwise. I have still to source a suitable supplier
--
Paul Mc Cann
Re: Felder Disintegrating Hose
Both of my saws, KF700 and K975, come with transitions. A round hose fits round ports on each end.
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 11:24?AM, Christopher Rozycki via groups.io <croz1950@...> wrote: ? How hard would it be to design and make a rectangular-to-round, metal, flexible adapter for the Felder/ Hammer saws that would simplify the transition and replacement? And why don¡¯t these really expensive saws come already equipped with that connector?? Seems like a really flawed design by Felder. Am I missing something?? Chris Rozycki? Hammer C3-31 owner Croz1950@... On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:57?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I purchased a 5¡± spiral hose from woodcraft which was the least flexible but super heavy duty.
This is what I use on the saw and since the blade swings to 45, it is very helpful that it is flexible and collapsible. At least if it doesn¡¯t fit the bill it can be returned easily.
|
On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:37?AM, Jarrett Maxwell via groups.io <j.a.max7@...> wrote:
?
Hey Paul,?
I recently purchased 4" dust hose from woodcraft that was surprisingly flexible. You may check their offerings to see what's available.?
Jarrett
Just a word of warning. I had a long length of Felder hose on my CF731. After it failed I bought a similar spec locally but it was too inflexible. So I ordered a replacement from Felder and it turned out also to be very inflexible? despite the website claiming otherwise. I have still to source a suitable supplier
--
Paul Mc Cann
Hi all,
I just picked up a used RL200 and have a few questions. I have it up and running & been working through some little niggles over the past couple of days.?
Firstly, the filters were pretty clogged up. Turns out the brushes weren't contacting the filter, so that problem was solved quite easily with a simple adjustment.
Secondly, the right hand bag was being sucked up and was even damaged (presumably when the filters were being cleaned). That too was easily rectified with some extra foam tape to seal up a small gap in the seal between the unit and the bin.
I have ordered parts to get the auto start up and running and look forward to having that feature on the machine. I may be looking for some help here with the install. :)
The question i have for those with an RL160 or 200 is do you notice much heat coming from the machine when it is running? Nice for our Canadian winters, but i'm a little concerned about the summer! The filters are clean, & i have been running the machine for hours at a time over the weekend on a job with no overload or any other issues. The suction is fantastic and the filters are auto cleaning when i stop the machine. It certainly seems to be working well and while i expect a certain amount of heat to be generated due to the nature of the machine, i just want to make sure the amount of heat being generated is normal. I have a 11' high mezanine above roughly 1/2 of my shop, and the RL200 sits about half way along it, i am concerned about getting rid of that heat in the sumer.?
Thanks in advance,
Bryce
--
https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw
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Re: Felder Disintegrating Hose
How hard would it be to design and make a rectangular-to-round, metal, flexible adapter for the Felder/ Hammer saws that would simplify the transition and replacement? And why don¡¯t these really expensive saws come already equipped with that connector?? Seems like a really flawed design by Felder. Am I missing something?? Chris Rozycki? Hammer C3-31 owner Croz1950@...
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:57?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I purchased a 5¡± spiral hose from woodcraft which was the least flexible but super heavy duty.
This is what I use on the saw and since the blade swings to 45, it is very helpful that it is flexible and collapsible. At least if it doesn¡¯t fit the bill it can be returned easily.
|
On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:37?AM, Jarrett Maxwell via groups.io <j.a.max7@...> wrote:
?
Hey Paul,?
I recently purchased 4" dust hose from woodcraft that was surprisingly flexible. You may check their offerings to see what's available.?
Jarrett
Just a word of warning. I had a long length of Felder hose on my CF731. After it failed I bought a similar spec locally but it was too inflexible. So I ordered a replacement from Felder and it turned out also to be very inflexible? despite the website claiming otherwise. I have still to source a suitable supplier
--
Paul Mc Cann
Re: Bowmouldmaster Install Issue
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Re: Felder Disintegrating Hose
I purchased a 5¡± spiral hose from woodcraft which was the least flexible but super heavy duty.
This is what I use on the saw and since the blade swings to 45, it is very helpful that it is flexible and collapsible. At least if it doesn¡¯t fit the bill it can be returned easily.
|
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On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:37?AM, Jarrett Maxwell via groups.io <j.a.max7@...> wrote:
?
Hey Paul,?
I recently purchased 4" dust hose from woodcraft that was surprisingly flexible. You may check their offerings to see what's available.?
Jarrett
Just a word of warning. I had a long length of Felder hose on my CF731. After it failed I bought a similar spec locally but it was too inflexible. So I ordered a replacement from Felder and it turned out also to be very inflexible? despite the website claiming otherwise. I have still to source a suitable supplier
--
Paul Mc Cann
Re: Felder Disintegrating Hose
I have been using 120mm hose from WholesaleHoses.com in my DIY/hobby use for about 5 years.
They have stood up pretty well.?? - Rich M.
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https://www.wholesalehoses.com/flx-thane-ld-sd-hose/
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Re: Felder Disintegrating Hose
Hey Paul,?
I recently purchased 4" dust hose from woodcraft that was surprisingly flexible. You may check their offerings to see what's available.?
Jarrett
Just a word of warning. I had a long length of Felder hose on my CF731. After it failed I bought a similar spec locally but it was too inflexible. So I ordered a replacement from Felder and it turned out also to be very inflexible? despite the website claiming otherwise. I have still to source a suitable supplier
--
Paul Mc Cann
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Re: Felder Disintegrating Hose
Just a word of warning. I had a long length of Felder hose on my CF731. After it failed I bought a similar spec locally but it was too inflexible. So I ordered a replacement from Felder and it turned out also to be very inflexible? despite the website claiming otherwise. I have still to source a suitable supplier
--
Paul Mc Cann
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My gut feeling is that the 3d print might not hold up. Maybe try nylon or PETG for print material. You can get some carbon fiber mixed with pla filament but I think it will not be flexible enough to "click" in.
Happy to model for you, but I'm in Australia so hard to test tolerance of fit.
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Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s
Good idea, Mr. Best, but I think I will stay with translation apps.
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Rudimentary Spanish is almost necessary here. If I could acquire another language it would perhaps be French. I¡¯d like to be able to read Dumas, or Rostand, in the original.
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(Sorry - getting off topic)
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Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s
David Best
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On Oct 27, 2024, at 7:50?PM, John Hinman via groups.io <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
I had no problem downloading the file, but Google Translate balked at the size of the original file. The download was 16.9 MB, and Translate said it would not process a file larger than 10 MB.
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I have software that will split up pdf files into manageable portions, but I had not yet done that. I appreciate Mr. Wolf getting it done.
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K700S and A941
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Re: Bowmouldmaster Install Issue
Done!
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On Oct 27, 2024, at 10:34?AM, Imran Malik <imranindiana@...> wrote: ? Hi David,
Thanks for the reference. It never fails, I looked through the index (obviously not carefully enough) and the section 7 in survival guide before asking the question. Completely missed the installation provided in Section 10 ??¡á?
The great survival guide has all the answers if you are smart enough to look carefully.
I will report if the webbing is any different than survival guide on my 2002 KF700.
On Oct 27, 2024, at 10:11?AM, David P. Best via groups.io <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
? Imran - from page 226 in the Survival Guide - ?this would be for ?KF700, but the F700 is similar. ?Trunion bolts only exist on pre-X-Roll type machines which I believe is what you have. ?Check the webbing positions on the underside of the cast iron top before drilling - you don¡¯t want to drill into the webs :
If you plan on using tooling with the BowmouldMaster in conjunction with the sliding table and a crosscut fence, then I would not recommend rotating the template. ?Better to drill two sets if necessary to get the full position flexibility of the hood. ?I often use the BowmouldMaster with counter-profile tooling and a crosscut fence because the dust extraction is so much better with that hood. ?
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On Oct 27, 2024, at 6:54?AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
Thanks Teboma. Rotating is definitely an option. I should have mentioned that I eyeballed it but my OCD, won¡¯t allow it.
Hi Tom, Thanks for sharing your experience. By omission, I assume you have not discovered any issues. If something came up I could do another set towards the front.
On Oct 27, 2024, at 8:14?AM, Tom Gensmer via groups.io <tom@...> wrote:
? Hi Imran,?
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I had a similar issue when drilling for the 220mm Bowmould on my TF-130. As Teboma suggests, the easiest solution is to simply rotate the template to avoid existing obstructions.?
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In my case, the limiting factor was the large opening in the table, which precluded rotating the template, so I just shifted it back enough to clear the opening.?
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Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Help Ripping - just got my first sliding table saw. Felder k700s
I had no problem downloading the file, but Google Translate balked at the size of the original file. The download was 16.9 MB, and Translate said it would not process a file larger than 10 MB.
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I have software that will split up pdf files into manageable portions, but I had not yet done that. I appreciate Mr. Wolf getting it done.
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941
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David P. Best
David Luckensmeyer
imran
Bryce Comer