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Re: FELDER KF 700/S, AD 741, AF22 + cutters + accessories for sale
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Re: FELDER KF 700/S, AD 741, AF22 + cutters + accessories for sale
First dibs on the Aigner Distometer if you'll sell it separately. On Sat, Sep 21, 2024, 1:08 PM hlund via <hlund1=[email protected]> wrote:
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FELDER KF 700/S, AD 741, AF22 + cutters + accessories for sale
hlund
This equipment is from a one-man furniture shop, now retiring. Equipment has had excellent care, very low hours. Many many accessories..
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Felder KF 700S /03 4.4 KW - 60Hz - 1ph motors Aigner digital height gauge Shaper: variable spindle speed: 1500 - 16000rpm Power drive - Digital height control: ht. 115mm Variable speed control 2- spindle fences: one with EURO bar guides, includes a variety of hold downs. Second fence has aluminum accessory wings, add multi adjustment option Felder f-38 three wheel, eight speed reversible feeder with extended horizontal arm and tilt down bracket 100+ carbide shaper cutters, bearing / shims : see photos $15,000 +/- Felder feeder F 38, extended horizontal alarm, tilt down mount (430-17) $1500.00 FELDER? AF 22 LN, Mobile Dust Extractor 1 x 230 V, 60 Hz. / 4.0 HP (3.0 kW) 1900 CFM AD 741 planer / jointer - 16¡± 4.4 KW motor Optional output catch table CUTTERS AND BLADES:? More than a dozen saw blades from 62 to 102s, including stacking and conical scoring blades. approx. 100 carbide shaper cutters + three quick change spindles, + one router bit spindle. Ask for photos if you're interested.? ALL: $30,000 FOR REFERENCE: price of new models: KF700S - $31,858.00 |
Re: RL160 filter change
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGary,You¡¯re in for a lot of fun - that is a difficult and tiring job on your vintage of RL-160. ?Lots of disassembly required - 14¡± long fingers help. One thing you want to do for sure is to rip out and replace the gasket material that seals the filter to the machine chassis. ?You¡¯ll probably discover that it¡¯s rotted and in a disintegrating condition. ?Have a look here to see what I found: ?. ?I posted about one of the filter replacements in this post: ?/g/felderownersgroup/message/87565. ? I¡¯ve done this filter change twice now, and the first time I used HD/Lowes stick-back foam, and that will not stand up. ?So the next time I got a higher grade foam strip material from McMaster to do the job and it¡¯s held up well. ?This is the kind of stuff I used (may or may not be the specific product, but close): ? If you want to implement an autosweep setup, I recommend putting the pneumatic actuator inside the machine just above the debris bin. ?I put mine on the outside - details attached - and it works fine, but it would be a cleaner install to mount it inside the box if you are nimble enough to do that kind of work (I am no longer in that category). ?More details in the attached documents including parts, assembly, etc. ?Video on it¡¯s operation is here: ? I have seen other posts here that have the actuators system inside the box, and some that even have time driven cycle controls using a PLC. ?There is also a long thread on modifications to improve (lower) the noise of the machine when running here: ?/g/felderownersgroup/topic/36265175#msg80377. ?There is stuff in the files section on this topic as well: ? Hope this helps. David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
RL-160 Pneumatic Filter Sweep Modification.pdf
RL-160 Pneumatic Filter Sweep Modification.pdf
RL-160 Pneumatic Filter Swipe Actuator Parts copy.pdf
RL-160 Pneumatic Filter Swipe Actuator Parts copy.pdf
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Re: RL160 filter change
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGerry, My RL125 came used so I did a complete cleaning as there was dust on the clean air side. This means opening the top cover as well which is not required to change the filter. The foam seal below the filter was completely compressed and disintegrated so I had to remove it and then clean the goo off to get to the clean metal. I used the following because I had it on hand. I used multiple layers. You could buy a thicker version. Light Duty Blended EPDM Foam Strip, with Adhesive Back, 2" Wide, 3/16" Thick, 50 Feet Long https://www.mcmaster.com/8694K74 Since mine isn¡¯t RL160 I would let others talk about the specifics. It is lots of screws and bit confined but not complicated, just a mechanism to push the filter down to form a seal. Also check the force it takes to compress the foam (it isn¡¯t a lot) so less is better because more can deform the filter itself. Lastly, if you replace the seal, make sure to adjust the viper height to ensure it is tickling the filter pleats. Imran Malik On Sep 21, 2024, at 11:36?AM, Gerry Kmack via groups.io <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
? I have a 2008 RL160 dust collector that badly needs new filters. I ordered the replacement filters months ago, and today (hopefully) is the day that they get installed.
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Along with the filters, Felder supplied a one page instruction sheet about changing the filters. They make it look pretty simple (though obviously very dusty). Besides the basic 8-step procedure outlined on the instruction sheet, does anyone have any other suggestions WRT accomplishing the filter change and/or anything else I should do at the same time, as long as I am up to my shoulders inside the machine?
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I recall seeing a post from David Best, describing an automatic cleaning system that he fabricated and installed¡ I really need to do that as well, but it will obviously require some planning. Has anyone else done something similar? My RL160 is located in the same building as my shop, but in a separate room accessible only from outside¡ this makes it real a pain, especially in the winter to get out there and clean the filters on a regular basis, so a switch activated filter cleaning system (with the switch inside the shop) would be a dream come true.
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Thanks In Advance-
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Gerry Kmack
Pagosa Springs CO
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RL160 filter change
I have a 2008 RL160 dust collector that badly needs new filters. I ordered the replacement filters months ago, and today (hopefully) is the day that they get installed.
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Along with the filters, Felder supplied a one page instruction sheet about changing the filters. They make it look pretty simple (though obviously very dusty). Besides the basic 8-step procedure outlined on the instruction sheet, does anyone have any other suggestions WRT accomplishing the filter change and/or anything else I should do at the same time, as long as I am up to my shoulders inside the machine?
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I recall seeing a post from David Best, describing an automatic cleaning system that he fabricated and installed¡ I really need to do that as well, but it will obviously require some planning. Has anyone else done something similar? My RL160 is located in the same building as my shop, but in a separate room accessible only from outside¡ this makes it a real pain, especially in the winter to get out there and clean the filters on a regular basis, so a switch activated filter cleaning system (with the switch inside the shop) would be a dream come true.
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Thanks In Advance-
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Gerry Kmack
Pagosa Springs CO
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Re: For sale: felder KF 700/S pro, 8741 planter joiner, AF 22 dust collector, collector, carbide cutters, and blades
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Re: For sale: felder KF 700/S pro, 8741 planter joiner, AF 22 dust collector, collector, carbide cutters, and blades
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHello David,The contact information is in the text of the description: Howard lund 312-519-4848. Location: is Grand Colorado Will this email exchange go to the whole group? ?thanks,?
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Re: For sale: felder KF 700/S pro, 8741 planter joiner, AF 22 dust collector, collector, carbide cutters, and blades
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýContact information might be helpful here. ?David Best
DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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Re: Drive Belt Position Sensor Errors and other machine shortcomings? K940S
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYes, this happens frequently on the Kappa 400. ?The dust extraction on these systems is inferior to the K975 it replaced, and a couple of us here on FOG have had distasteful arguments with Hansj?rg Felder himself about this. ?The best solution to this error is to spray down the sensors with compressed air on a routine basis.David Best
DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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Re: Drive Belt Position Sensor Errors and other machine shortcomings? K940S
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Mike: ? I have a Kappa 400 which is similar to your machine under the cast iron table. Because mine is an x-motion version, instead of a ¡°light¡± showing a sensor fault for blade speeds, the fault comes up on screen. However, I don¡¯t need to dive under the table to correct it. ? Instead, I blow compressed air under the table around the blade and arbor or just around the scoring blade and that usually clears the fault (in real time). Sometimes I even stick the end of my blow gun in the hole adjacent to the scoring blade (for adjusting the blade height) and that fixes the sensor issue. ? I do not regard this occasional fault as a design defect. Optical sensors (if that is what is under there) are inside my wide belt sander too and help maintain alignment. I occasionally have to blow those sensors clean as well. ? That all said, maybe you¡¯ve tried compressed air yourself? I¡¯d certainly feel ticked off if I had to crawl under my machine (even occasionally) to clear a fault. But compressed air works very well for me. Good luck. ? Warm regards, Lucky ? Dr David Luckensmeyer Designer & Maker @luckensmeyer M: 0413 013 115 ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Hertler via groups.io <mhertler@...> K940S...Has anyone experience the belt speed sensors throwing on the "fault" light because the sensors are constantly getting covered in dust!? First time it happened, a quick call to Felder instructed me to just clean the sensors. That definitely is the fix but is anyone aware of any mods or advice that can help to avoid this from occurring? I take rather good care of this machine with regular cleaning/maintenance and am rather displeased with what I feel is a bad design on Felder's part. This seems to happen way more often than I would expect especially considering regular cleaning. It just seems rather silly to use an optical sensor in a place where it can so easily get covered by dust and then be such a pain to crawl under the machine and have to clean or change the belts through that small door.?? ? I'm coming up on two years of ownership on this machine and constantly find myself a bit frustrated with a few things I had noticed during recent servicing including loose switches on the control panel and parts of the slide table locking mechanism coming loose. I also had the blade height mechanism lock at max height once and not react at all to any of the control switches. After speaking with tech support, they advised me to disconnect the motor from the terminal strips and power it with a 20v drill battery to make it move off it's limit. After a brief move with the drill batt and then reconnecting it, I've never had it occur again but seriously? They knew enough to know it happens and immediately offer a "fix" but no explanation as to why it occurred or how to make an adjustment? Just seemed a bit odd. ? Is anyone else displeased with the build quality of these tools? I feel for the most part everything is fine but there are just some things I am noticing that makes me question their quality and longevity when comparing to other major manufacturers such as Martin or Altendorf.? ? I would love to hear some opinions as I will soon be planning a new shop build, had considered purchasing other machines they offer but don't know if that seems like the best idea after these experiences.? ? ? |
Re: Drive Belt Position Sensor Errors and other machine shortcomings? K940S
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Mike, There are sensors on my K975 but I am not certain if they are optical. The description in the book is not detailed enough. This is what it looks like in the exploded assembly deg (item 28). I have RL125 with some 30¡¯+ ducting and several turns so I would not call it very good dust collection but I do not have an issue. I assume you have adequate dust collection. Probably not very helpful but it is a data point. Also, for my saw it just illuminates the RPM on the panel, not sure if anything would happen if it stops working. Do you have CNC option with display. In that case, maybe it is an input that matters. Just spit balling. Imran Malik On Sep 19, 2024, at 3:06?PM, Mike Hertler via groups.io <mhertler@...> wrote:
? K940S...Has anyone experience the belt speed sensors throwing on the "fault" light because the sensors are constantly getting covered in dust!? First time it happened, a quick call to Felder instructed me to just clean the sensors. That definitely is the fix but is anyone aware of any mods or advice that can help to avoid this from occurring? I take rather good care of this machine with regular cleaning/maintenance and am rather displeased with what I feel is a bad design on Felder's part. This seems to happen way more often than I would expect especially considering regular cleaning. It just seems rather silly to use an optical sensor in a place where it can so easily get covered by dust and then be such a pain to crawl under the machine and have to clean or change the belts through that small door.??
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I'm coming up on two years of ownership on this machine and constantly find myself a bit frustrated with a few things I had noticed during recent servicing including loose switches on the control panel and parts of the slide table locking mechanism coming loose. I also had the blade height mechanism lock at max height once and not react at all to any of the control switches. After speaking with tech support, they advised me to disconnect the motor from the terminal strips and power it with a 20v drill battery to make it move off it's limit. After a brief move with the drill batt and then reconnecting it, I've never had it occur again but seriously? They knew enough to know it happens and immediately offer a "fix" but no explanation as to why it occurred or how to make an adjustment? Just seemed a bit odd.
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Is anyone else displeased with the build quality of these tools? I feel for the most part everything is fine but there are just some things I am noticing that makes me question their quality and longevity when comparing to other major manufacturers such as Martin or Altendorf.?
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I would love to hear some opinions as I will soon be planning a new shop build, had considered purchasing other machines they offer but don't know if that seems like the best idea after these experiences.?
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Drive Belt Position Sensor Errors and other machine shortcomings? K940S
K940S...Has anyone experience the belt speed sensors throwing on the "fault" light because the sensors are constantly getting covered in dust!? First time it happened, a quick call to Felder instructed me to just clean the sensors. That definitely is the fix but is anyone aware of any mods or advice that can help to avoid this from occurring? I take rather good care of this machine with regular cleaning/maintenance and am rather displeased with what I feel is a bad design on Felder's part. This seems to happen way more often than I would expect especially considering regular cleaning. It just seems rather silly to use an optical sensor in a place where it can so easily get covered by dust and then be such a pain to crawl under the machine and have to clean or change the belts through that small door.??
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I'm coming up on two years of ownership on this machine and constantly find myself a bit frustrated with a few things I had noticed during recent servicing including loose switches on the control panel and parts of the slide table locking mechanism coming loose. I also had the blade height mechanism lock at max height once and not react at all to any of the control switches. After speaking with tech support, they advised me to disconnect the motor from the terminal strips and power it with a 20v drill battery to make it move off it's limit. After a brief move with the drill batt and then reconnecting it, I've never had it occur again but seriously? They knew enough to know it happens and immediately offer a "fix" but no explanation as to why it occurred or how to make an adjustment? Just seemed a bit odd.
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Is anyone else displeased with the build quality of these tools? I feel for the most part everything is fine but there are just some things I am noticing that makes me question their quality and longevity when comparing to other major manufacturers such as Martin or Altendorf.?
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I would love to hear some opinions as I will soon be planning a new shop build, had considered purchasing other machines they offer but don't know if that seems like the best idea after these experiences.?
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