Re: Scoring Blade Durability
I run 6” tapered Designing and building for 50 years
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 10:09 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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On 3/17/22 10:07 PM, Mark Foster wrote: and he reground it That's what I'd do
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Forrest does make a 10" Woodworker II blade for flat bottom cuts called a #1 grind.? I have one that has a 30mm arbor and pin holes for Felder.?
I believe I purchased it online from SliversMill.com.
? ?Dennis?
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I just received a call back from Mark Gallagher at Leitz. ?I’m looking for a local shop for my sharpening needs. ?They are only minutes from me, down in Kent. ?So they are pretty good then?
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 7:50 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ? mgallagher@...
This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I have the Ridge Carbide dado set.? I love it.? I also have their general purpose blade and dedicated rip blade (24T I think).? Great company with great quality blades.? Jeff
? Dan,
Has their dado set treated you well so far?? I was just looking at the Ridge Carbide dado set the other day.? I certainly love their TS2000 Super Combo Blade, 48 tooth.? I order it without the raker teeth.? Impressive cuts for a combo blade.
Thx,
Wade
On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:52 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? Alternatively, you can order a dado stack set as well. I have the ridge carbide dado set and you can use the outside cutters either single or doubled up for slotting work.? ? John I recently ordered the Felder silent power 14tooth blade and it comes with flat bottom teeth. It’s still on sale for $53.90 and in stock.?
Here’s their description:?For time saving rip cuts. For sizing and ripping solid woods along the grain or to slot and tenon in longitudinal direction
?I appreciate all of these replies!
I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.
The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.
My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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? Dan,
Has their dado set treated you well so far? ?I was just looking at the Ridge Carbide dado set the other day. ?I certainly love their TS2000 Super Combo Blade, 48 tooth. ?I order it without the raker teeth. ?Impressive cuts for a combo blade.
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:52 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? Alternatively, you can order a dado stack set as well. I have the ridge carbide dado set and you can use the outside cutters either single or doubled up for slotting work.? On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:45 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk via groups.io <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? John I recently ordered the Felder silent power 14tooth blade and it comes with flat bottom teeth. It’s still on sale for $53.90 and in stock.?
Here’s their description:?For time saving rip cuts. For sizing and ripping solid woods along the grain or to slot and tenon in longitudinal direction
On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:38 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?I appreciate all of these replies!
I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.
The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.
My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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John,
Have you looked at Ridge Carbide Tool company? ?Great blades as well.
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:38 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?I appreciate all of these replies!
I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.
The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.
My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
This.
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Alternatively, you can order a dado stack set as well. I have the ridge carbide dado set and you can use the outside cutters either single or doubled up for slotting work.?
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:45 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk via groups.io <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? John I recently ordered the Felder silent power 14tooth blade and it comes with flat bottom teeth. It’s still on sale for $53.90 and in stock.?
Here’s their description:?For time saving rip cuts. For sizing and ripping solid woods along the grain or to slot and tenon in longitudinal direction
On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:38 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?I appreciate all of these replies!
I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.
The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.
My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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John I recently ordered the Felder silent power 14tooth blade and it comes with flat bottom teeth. It’s still on sale for $53.90 and in stock.?
Here’s their description:?For time saving rip cuts. For sizing and ripping solid woods along the grain or to slot and tenon in longitudinal direction
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:38 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?I appreciate all of these replies!
I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.
The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.
My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I appreciate all of these replies!
I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.
The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.
My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Re: For sale: Hammer B3 & A3-31
#forsale
Prices look too low for today's market.? Good luck.
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Thanks David and Mark,
John did not mention fine joinery rather flat bottom cuts so I thought I had the perfect option for him. No Problem.
Wonder if Leitz offers one in Aqua marine (Mauve to the color blind crowd ?).
Imran
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 10:51 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote: ? Imran, I have two of those - they are great for grooving drawer bottoms and the like, but not good for joinery.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
Felder offers this (currently out of stock) with 4mm kerf.
Imran ?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Haha! I’ll keep that in mind. Unfortunately the double postage between us would likely dampen our enthusiasm for a swap!
Warm regards,
David
Dr David Luckensmeyer
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Lucky, I’ll trade you my (unused) 8-degree dovetail blade for something if you want. ?LOL
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
On Mar 17, 2022, at 7:51 PM, David Luckensmeyer < dhluckens@...> wrote:
That’s a nice blade. I want that blade!
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend
you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ? mgallagher@...
This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.
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I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Lucky, I’ll trade you my (unused) 8-degree dovetail blade for something if you want. ?LOL
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 7:51 PM, David Luckensmeyer < dhluckens@...> wrote:
That’s a nice blade. I want that blade!
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend
you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ? mgallagher@...
This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.
<IMG_7519.jpeg>
I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Re: Airtight Clamps on a K700S
Mike, if you sweet talk Kyle, he will special order you a feeder in a nice neutral grey instead of the s**t-brindle-brown. ?Here’s mine:
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Well that got more attention than anticipated.
1. Yes the slider will lock in 2 positions if the arrows are nicely lined up. Like threading a needle.
2. The red stripe is a reminder to not wrap my fingers under the slider in this lowered position.
3. Moving an air clamp over will interfere with the overhead guard if I interpret the suggestion correctly. I like the idea of a tiny cylinder or two in the lower slider that press up under the table to lock it in? Imran can even make a remote for it…In Mauve.?
4. Why are the comatic feeders such an ugly color?
5. The long T nut accessory over around 4” wouldn’t slide in over the handle (see Imran’s photo showing the cut notch). I posted a 3D printed?insert to use festool clamps prior to getting Macs clamps.
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Imran, I have two of those - they are great for grooving drawer bottoms and the like, but not good for joinery.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Felder offers this (currently out of stock) with 4mm kerf.
Imran ?I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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That’s a nice blade. I want that blade!
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
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I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend
you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ? mgallagher@...
This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ? mgallagher@...
This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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