That is a Kysor Johnson model J that I did a full teardown, repaint, rebuild on. Took me a few months of chipping away at it, but it came out?great. It is a very nice saw. Bought it for $400.?
On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 8:30 AM Brian Lamb < blamb11@...> wrote: Nice! What a big space, looks great! Looks like a Kysor Johnson band saw in the back ground¡. nice machine for metal work.
On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Bob Wise < bob@...> wrote:
Thanks for indulging me, as I'm excited to have gotten this mostly done. Thanks to the folks on the list for the advice on leveling and adjustments, esp Brian and David. The possible thing of interest to the list is my setup on the griz overarm, which I'm very happy?about.? Works great. I had to cut down the foot, and it is bolted to the cabinet and?the?extension top. Very stable. Not that?this is a surprise, but to confirm.... 8" mains to 6" drops and minimal flex tube DOES make a big difference on suction vs running 15' of 4" flex. :-). Pics below.
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Nice! What a big space, looks great! Looks like a Kysor Johnson band saw in the back ground¡. nice machine for metal work.
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On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Bob Wise < bob@...> wrote:
Thanks for indulging me, as I'm excited to have gotten this mostly done. Thanks to the folks on the list for the advice on leveling and adjustments, esp Brian and David. The possible thing of interest to the list is my setup on the griz overarm, which I'm very happy?about.? Works great. I had to cut down the foot, and it is bolted to the cabinet and?the?extension top. Very stable. Not that?this is a surprise, but to confirm.... 8" mains to 6" drops and minimal flex tube DOES make a big difference on suction vs running 15' of 4" flex. :-). Pics below.
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Thanks for indulging me, as I'm excited to have gotten this mostly done. Thanks to the folks on the list for the advice on leveling and adjustments, esp Brian and David. The possible thing of interest to the list is my setup on the griz overarm, which I'm very happy?about.? Works great. I had to cut down the foot, and it is bolted to the cabinet and?the?extension top. Very stable. Not that?this is a surprise, but to confirm.... 8" mains to 6" drops and minimal flex tube DOES make a big difference on suction vs running 15' of 4" flex. :-). Pics below.
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UHMW, you can get it online from Plastic Supply houses or places like McMaster or MSC. That is a good solution, and watching your video, the wheel is obviously out of round and when it hits the low spot, your fence extrusion is hitting the table causing it to grab and make all the racket.
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Hi Rob,
What is that inserted material I¡¯m looking at? ?I did find a flat spot on my wheel. ?Felder is still ¡°reviewing¡± my video. ?I was thinking maybe there¡¯s an aftermarket wheel that is made of nylon that would be much quieter too.
Wade ?Just a picture of what the roller looked like and my fix to smooth out the travel of the fence from the cast to the steel extension table. Felder did send me a new wheel but still was not that great.<Fence Slider 2.jpeg><Bump on wheel med .jpg>
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Hi Rob,
What is that inserted material I¡¯m looking at? ?I did find a flat spot on my wheel. ?Felder is still ¡°reviewing¡± my video. ?I was thinking maybe there¡¯s an aftermarket wheel that is made of nylon that would be much quieter too.
Wade
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On Mar 6, 2022, at 6:21 AM, Rob H <rhorton@...> wrote:
?Just a picture of what the roller looked like and my fix to smooth out the travel of the fence from the cast to the steel extension table. Felder did send me a new wheel but still was not that great.  
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Just a picture of what the roller looked like and my fix to smooth out the travel of the fence from the cast to the steel extension table. Felder did send me a new wheel but still was not that great.  
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Re: Automatic blast gate issue
#k700s
Glad to hear that worked!
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Wade my Hammer K3 made this noise and it is the roller wheel under the cast housing that holds the fence. Flip it over and check that roller
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Re: Automatic blast gate issue
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Hey Steve,
I contacted Chuck, over at GrnGate. ?He made up a new, longer, sensor cable so that I could route this into the saw cabinet. ?I connected it right to the power cable going directly to the main saw motor and problem solved! ?Thank you for the tip.
Wade
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On Feb 9, 2022, at 4:58 AM, Steve Wurster <steven.m.wurster@...> wrote:
?GrnGate has apparently ceased operations, although their website is still online for support reasons.? Looking at their manual I see the following:
NOTE: Some power tools including the SawStop table saw and certain European tools have an electronics control system. In these cases the sensor must be attached AFTER the control box, ideally directly on the cable going to the motor. Otherwise it is possible to incur erratic sensing and collector operation due to a constant current being drawn by the control system.
So perhaps you need to change where that sensor is placed on your machine.
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? Hi John,
When you get a chance, can you view this video. ?I¡¯m curious if your rip fence does this when you slide it across the table? ?Mine has a real bad bounce to it. ?Make sure you have your volume up when viewing as well. ?
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 3, 2022, at 6:11 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?Wade, he did it right in front of me. Instead of measuring the ends of the last cut piece he simply cut it in two and paced the two ends side by side. He kept at it as long as we could feel a difference between the two ends.
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John Hinman
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John, you aren¡¯t likely to find the square I have - I bought up the last 10 units in the US several years ago for fellow FOG members. ?Since then I haven¡¯t seen the Polish version available. ?At times, Grizzly imports a clone from Taiwan, but I do not see it in their current catalog. ? I agree with Dave Kumm - Brian¡¯s square was developed specifically to fill this need and has lots of other uses.
David Best
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David, thanks for that very helpful response.
What is the brand of your square? I cannot quite make it out in the photo, and have not yet been able to find that style larger than 200 x 300 mm.
200 x 300 is probably large enough, and can be found at reasonable prices, but I want to consider my options.
I presume your square is made to DIN 875/0 tolerances.
Regards,
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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David, thanks for that very helpful response.
What is the brand of your square? I cannot quite make it out in the photo, and have not yet been able to find that style larger than 200 x 300 mm.
200 x 300 is probably large enough, and can be found at reasonable prices, but I want to consider my options.
I presume your square is made to DIN 875/0 tolerances.
Regards,
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Get Brian's square.? A million uses and a very fair price.? Dave
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David, your Flickr video seems to show you checking along approximately 6¡± of the edge of the square. Is there a need, or merit, to use a larger square? Would an 8¡± x 12¡± square be sufficient? I ask because I see demonstrations with much larger
precision squares. Given that the fence is an extrusion rather than a machined surface there are probably pros and cons to small versus large squares.
The square I use is 500 x 250mm, and it¡¯s 10mm thick. ?It¡¯s a precision machinist square made in Poland and very accurate. ?I like it because it has a thick edge to indicate again - most machinist squares have a thick heavy short leg and a thin blade for
the longer leg so they don¡¯t naturally lay flat on a surface like the sliding table. ?
I generally put the long edge against the crosscut fence and indicate to the short leg. ?If I get less than 0.0005¡± of indicator deflection over the 10¡± length of the short leg, I¡¯m happy with that level of accuracy. ? That¡¯s equivalent to 0.006¡± over
10 feet - about the thickness of a sheet of ink jet printer paper - and certainly more accurate than any 5-sided cut test.
If you want more assurance on accuracy, Brian Lamb makes a very nice precision triangle-shaped square that is 1/4¡± thick and 16x24 inches. Details on his square are here: ?
David Best
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David, your Flickr video seems to show you checking along approximately 6¡± of the edge of the square. Is there a need, or merit, to use a larger square? Would an 8¡± x 12¡± square be sufficient? I ask because I see demonstrations with much larger precision squares. Given that the fence is an extrusion rather than a machined surface there are probably pros and cons to small versus large squares.
The square I use is 500 x 250mm, and it¡¯s 10mm thick. ?It¡¯s a precision machinist square made in Poland and very accurate. ?I like it because it has a thick edge to indicate again - most machinist squares have a thick heavy short leg and a thin blade for the longer leg so they don¡¯t naturally lay flat on a surface like the sliding table. ?
I generally put the long edge against the crosscut fence and indicate to the short leg. ?If I get less than 0.0005¡± of indicator deflection over the 10¡± length of the short leg, I¡¯m happy with that level of accuracy. ? That¡¯s equivalent to 0.006¡± over 10 feet - about the thickness of a sheet of ink jet printer paper - and certainly more accurate than any 5-sided cut test.
If you want more assurance on accuracy, Brian Lamb makes a very nice precision triangle-shaped square that is 1/4¡± thick and 16x24 inches. Details on his square are here: ?
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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That does look much faster and easier than the 5-cut method. I had never seen the 5-cut method used before, but by the time Jason had set both fences he had used up a lot of that piece of melamine!
David, your Flickr video seems to show you checking along approximately 6¡± of the edge of the square. Is there a need, or merit, to use a larger square? Would an 8¡± x 12¡± square be sufficient? I ask because I see demonstrations with much larger precision squares. Given that the fence is an extrusion rather than a machined surface there are probably pros and cons to small versus large squares.
Thank you!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
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Hey ¡°dial indicator-packing nut job¡±,
I performed your method, and ¡¡¡yeah, it worked. It was quick and easy! ?
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 4, 2022, at 12:49 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
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Wade, he did it right in front of me. Instead of measuring the ends of the last cut piece he simply cut it in two and paced the two ends side by side. He kept at it as long as we could feel a difference between the two ends.
Positively stone-aged method. ?Highly prone to error & non-deterministic, wastes materials, boggles the mind. ?But given the scant tools provided to Felder technicians, it¡¯s about all they can do. ?This is a more accurate and simple procedure.
John, I¡¯m glad your machine is installed and commissioned safely.
David Best Yea, that ¡°dial indicator-packing nut job¡±
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Steve, you are certainly welcome here!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Congrats John! I¡¯ve been using mine, just not as much as I¡¯d like. Too many other things going on right now. And, lumber prices are through the roof. Really I¡¯m putting my shop back together after getting the saw in. I¡¯ll be up in Boise to see my brother this spring and would love to stop by if you wouldn¡¯t mind a visiter.
Steve
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Mike, my K700S used three large bolts for the overarm saw guard. How many did you get?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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David P. Best