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Re: I¡¯m on the fence, about choosing a parallel fence.

 

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Felder sent me their parallel fence for free as part of the thanksgiving promo sale that happened just after I ordered my k700s. My shop layout doesn¡¯t allow me to use the parallel fence in its fullest capacity since my planer is in the way. I mainly use mine as an extra material support with plywood and as a butt bar.?

On Mar 8, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Bill Belanger <Bill@...> wrote:

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I have both and prefer Brian¡¯s. Its lighter and simpler to use. I have the digital version, not sure if Felder makes one or not. The Felder version I have is analog. I still use the Felder as a base to support plywood panels without the fence part.
Bill B


On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 17:18 Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
Hey F.O.G.

I¡¯m in need of a parallel fence to use with my K700S.? Unless you make your own, I see only two marketed ones to choose from, Felder¡¯s version vs Lamb¡¯s version.? I see pros/cons with both.? Please remember I¡¯m a newbie and still learning what these machines are capable of.? Just reaching out, to you seasoned slider users, to see if I could ask what your preference was for a parallel fence choice.? And if there¡¯s obvious things to consider when making this decision.? Thank You members!

Wade


Re: I¡¯m on the fence, about choosing a parallel fence.

 

I have both and prefer Brian¡¯s. Its lighter and simpler to use. I have the digital version, not sure if Felder makes one or not. The Felder version I have is analog. I still use the Felder as a base to support plywood panels without the fence part.
Bill B


On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 17:18 Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
Hey F.O.G.

I¡¯m in need of a parallel fence to use with my K700S.? Unless you make your own, I see only two marketed ones to choose from, Felder¡¯s version vs Lamb¡¯s version.? I see pros/cons with both.? Please remember I¡¯m a newbie and still learning what these machines are capable of.? Just reaching out, to you seasoned slider users, to see if I could ask what your preference was for a parallel fence choice.? And if there¡¯s obvious things to consider when making this decision.? Thank You members!

Wade


I¡¯m on the fence, about choosing a parallel fence.

 

Hey F.O.G.

I¡¯m in need of a parallel fence to use with my K700S. ?Unless you make your own, I see only two marketed ones to choose from, Felder¡¯s version vs Lamb¡¯s version. ?I see pros/cons with both. ?Please remember I¡¯m a newbie and still learning what these machines are capable of. ?Just reaching out, to you seasoned slider users, to see if I could ask what your preference was for a parallel fence choice. ?And if there¡¯s obvious things to consider when making this decision. ?Thank You members!

Wade


Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

 

For what it's?worth here is a photo of my A3-31 fence. The outfeed end of the fence is 1/4" off the table. It has to be since it is a machined offset.



On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, 12:34 PM Jeff <onehpbmw@...> wrote:
I use a magport connector for DC on mine.? Switching the DC takes less than 10 seconds--less an issue than dialing the planer table up or down during the conversion.


On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 3:25 PM <williamjoecowan@...> wrote:
I did finally figure about the gear lever. All is well, so far, other than the DC hose is a problem until I figure out how to deal with it when changing over to jointing or planeing. Once I get the fence issue settled, I can get back to normal shop activities.


Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

 

I use a magport connector for DC on mine.? Switching the DC takes less than 10 seconds--less an issue than dialing the planer table up or down during the conversion.


On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 3:25 PM <williamjoecowan@...> wrote:
I did finally figure about the gear lever. All is well, so far, other than the DC hose is a problem until I figure out how to deal with it when changing over to jointing or planeing. Once I get the fence issue settled, I can get back to normal shop activities.


Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

 

I did finally figure about the gear lever. All is well, so far, other than the DC hose is a problem until I figure out how to deal with it when changing over to jointing or planeing. Once I get the fence issue settled, I can get back to normal shop activities.


Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

 

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I can¡¯t tell from the picture, but I suspect there is enough clearance on the bolts that hold the bracket on the back of that extrusion to loosen and tilt it slightly. I don¡¯t know about Hammer but on my Felder it has plastic pieces on the bottom edge of the extrusion that ride on the table.?

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Mar 8, 2022, at 11:51 AM, williamjoecowan@... wrote:

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Re: Full face mask

 

Where do you buy the versaflo system?


On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 6:55 AM joe slater <joeslater4@...> wrote:
I also recommend versaflo. Have had mine for 3 years now.? Best overall respirator solution I¡¯ve ever had, which is about all of them. Very good when at the lathe with the face shield?

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 1:44 PM scottgrossman via <scottgrossman=[email protected]> wrote:

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+1 for the 3M Versaflo. It's actually something I don't mind wearing, despite the size. It's very comfortable on the head, well balanced, and not too heavy.
I have some substantial wood dust allergies and the Versaflo makes a lot of the things I do in the shop tolerable.
I also have the Trend respirator and it's downright unpleasant to wear compared to the Versaflo. Since everything is on the helmet, it's quite top-heavy. Sort of like wearing a light brick on your head in exchange for clear air. It does the job with filtration when its on, but I tended not to use it as much as I should have because of the overall experience.

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Joe Slater
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Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

 

You also plane (thickness) in the opposite direction from jointing. Dummy me actually made this mistake. Once.


On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, 11:18 AM JP Rice via <jprphotos=[email protected]> wrote:

Did you engage the gear lever when planing?


Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

 

Did you engage the gear lever when planing?


Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

 


Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

 

I have the infeed table set down enough to joint as I need. The infeed side of the jointer fence still touches the tabletop.


Re: Eagerly awaiting info on the new Felder FW 850...

 

This caught my attention as I¡¯ve been looking for a wide belt that¡¯s a fit for my shop (therefore 25¡±).? I reached out to Felder rep who said first machines will be in NA Jan 2023 initially priced at $16,135.00.

Now I¡¯d really like to see a review.

Mike

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 3:45 AM Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
They definitely value engineered that 850.

I am no expert by a long shot on wide belts but based on observation from the video looks lightweight and they simplified things like where the head is fixed to the frame (the piece that is removed so you can replace the sanding belt) instead of a solid block it is 2 jack screws. The dro is a $100 Chinese Alibaba and also a bit suspicious of the air bladder platen, could be wrong but I thought I did some reading where they can be problematic. I know they are used on some high dollar sanders ao maybe I misunderstood the stuff I was reading.?

Seems to me they should have branded this as a Hammer and not a Felder, probably fine for intermittent hobby use but a shop buying this o think will be disappointed, they are setting themselves up for a lot of complaining (don¡¯t worry FOG, not buying one?)


Regards, Mark

On Mar 7, 2022, at 11:19 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:

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Goody. No worries.

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Agreed, maybe the machine is a new animal. I look forward to hearing more about the FW850!

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Lucky

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of PK <pk@...>
Date: Tuesday, 8 March 2022 at 2:14 pm
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Eagerly awaiting info on the new Felder FW 850...

Lucky,

I read your review/challenges when I first started on the FOG.? You were super detailed and had amazing insights.

It is what makes me want to know more about the differences in this new machine before I would want to repeat your journey.

Maybe they learned from you!

PK


Re: Motor rating vs circuit size

 

Thanks to all on these great posts and all the information shared. I will be, hopefully, getting my K700 next month. It will have the single phase 4hp, 60 Hz motor. The Felder sales rep. told me that a 20 amp circuit would be fine but I am going to install a 30 amp breaker with 10 gauge wire just to be safe.?

Ed Cohen?
E. Cohen Designs?

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, 10:23 PM mark thomas <murkyd@...> wrote:
> I hope this is helpful, or at least interesting.

No news in anything he said, but regarding this:

> The Code does permit upsizing circuit breakers on dedicated motor circuits by as much as?
> 250% if needed to avoid nuisance tripping. That provision is in the section on motors.
> Apparently I would be within Code to change my 20-amp breakers to 30-amp breakers
> without changing anything else.?

No, because a table saw is not a "dedicated motor circuit".? ? In the real world, an inspector
may allow the argument that a "dedicated single-motor machine" is functionally equivalent,
but more often not you won't find this to the case.


Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

 

I just set my A3-31 up last week. I went to check mine just now. Just a thought is your infeed bed set to zero cut , maybe the reason the fence is touching the bed. I know my outfeed side of the fence is about 1/4¡± to 3/8¡± above the bed. As far as the 17mm setting for the coupler that is correct. I have an extension currently on my planer outfeed side.?

Tyler?


Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

 

I will try to get pictures up this afternoon. I just jointed a board and all is well with that other than a high pitched whistle noise, but when I flipped it over to try to plane that board, it would not pull the board in. As to the fence, I loosened the bolts in the middle support of the fence to see if it could adjust and got nothing.


Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

 

That does not sound right.? However, the outfeed end of the fence is a bad reference since it is stepped up by about 1/4 inch to have the necessary clearance for the infeed table when adjusting cutting height.? I think you are right to leave the rail height as per instructions.? I would call Felder support with a picture and ask for advise.?

Have you tried loosening the four nuts where the top of the fence bracket attaches to the aluminum fence extrusion? That should give you some room for adjustment.? But maybe not as much as needed.


Re: saw setup pics

 

Having just completed my own duct work, I¡¯ll second the saw envy. I used a cut-off saw which was more time consuming than a grinder because the pipe wouldn¡¯t fit under the blade, but I think I could keep my cuts a little more square.

Bob, is that melamine on the saw¡¯s outrigger your own build? That looks pretty nice.

Thanks for the shop pictures.

Bird Cupps
Running Chicken Farm
Mount Horeb, WI

On Mar 7, 2022, at 11:21 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

That¡¯s nice! Easier than me with a cutting wheel in my grinder on my spiral duct.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Mar 6, 2022, at 7:12 PM, Bob Wise <bob@...> wrote:

And PVC duct work. :-)

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Re: Hammer A3-31 issue

 

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Pictures might help with some suggestions. I¡¯m not familiar with the Hammer jointer fence.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Mar 8, 2022, at 6:52 AM, williamjoecowan@... wrote:

I just got me new machine in and am setting it up. The jointer fence sets unlevel, with the infeed end of the fence touching the table, and the outfeed end being roughly 3/8" high off the table. I set the bracket that the fence attaches to on the end of the table, exactly 17mm under the tabletop as was shown in the instructions. I do not see any adjustments to this angle and am sure this is not correct. Any advice? I do not want to adjust the bracket higher as I plan on attaching an extension table to this bracket occasionally (I hope that will flush with the tabletop?? with the 17mm drop).


Hammer A3-31 issue

 

I just got me new machine in and am setting it up. The jointer fence sets unlevel, with the infeed end of the fence touching the table, and the outfeed end being roughly 3/8" high off the table. I set the bracket that the fence attaches to on the end of the table, exactly 17mm under the tabletop as was shown in the instructions. I do not see any adjustments to this angle and am sure this is not correct. Any advice? I do not want to adjust the bracket higher as I plan on attaching an extension table to this bracket occasionally (I hope that will flush with the tabletop?? with the 17mm drop).