Thanks for the clarification on the manufacture of those saws.? Steve Lyde
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On Jan 27, 2022, at 10:06 AM, David Sabo via groups.io <sabo_dave@...> wrote:
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LT16 & 18 have never been made by SCM.??
SCM / MiniMax saws until just recently have been produced by Centauro for SCM.?? The LT saws are from ACM out of Italy - except for very early models which were fabricated by Meber.
D
On Thursday, January 27, 2022, 10:57:10 AM EST, Steve Lyde via groups.io <stlyde@...> wrote:
I have a Laguna LT16 which I mostly use for resaw work and I can say it’s a great machine. ?My understanding is the LT16 and 18 are actually made by SCM in Italy but I could be wrong on that. Anyone know for sure? Steve Lyde On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:44 AM, john adank <lseap107@...> wrote:
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I’m also interested in this conversation as I want to upgrade my 14” Delta and purchase a new 14” saw with larger table and better guides. ?I would also like to purchase an additional bandsaw just for re-sawing. ?I’ve looked at the Laguna 14bx for smaller work as well as the LT18 Resaw Master for larger projects. ?I’m also considering the Minimax S440P or old MM16. ?I’ve spoken to Sam Blasco of Minimax a few times about this saw. ?It’s well made but I wish it had an adjustable height fence. ?He has an older outdated video on this saw and it looks quite versatile for re-sawing and curved/scroll work.
John Adank Onalaska, WI On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Tom,?
I ordered a handful of small parts for ceramic guides that took over 6 months to receive in multiple deliveries. It was a painful experience. I'm convinced Laguna is a well oiled import machine, but not convinced they are really a "services after the sale" kind of company. Furthermore, I think I went through this process and looked at the same machine? a few years back and at that time they had availability issues, nothing in the warehouse to sell at the time, and I couldn't find anyone who owned one to reference an opinion. I will also say as I have learned, 5hp is the minimum I'd consider for any substantial resawing quantities. I have? a contact that bought an LT24 used/auction and immediately determined the 5 hp to be junk and mounted a 10hp in its place because it was the biggest that he could fit. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM < tom@...> wrote: Resurrecting this thread to pose the following question:?
I currently have a Laguna LT14SUV (14" Asian-made machine, 14" resaw, 3 hp motor) that I'd like to set up just for curved work, and adding a second band saw that I'd use as a dedicated ripping machine. I'm running a one-person operation and seem to be specializing in taking on small, one-off jobs, working directly with clients or serving as back-up for other local shops. I'm currently in a ~700 sq-ft Shop, so space is a bit of an issue (likely prevents the 30"+ machines), but it's possible I could sneak in a 24" machine.?
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
Highlights:
-- Leeson 5hp motor, available in 3-phase
-- Italian-made, not sure who though (likely ACM?)
-- 18" resaw height
-- Uses the Laguna ceramic guides
-- Cost is comparable to a FB610
-- Accepts a 2" blade
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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LT16 & 18 have never been made by SCM.??
SCM / MiniMax saws until just recently have been produced by Centauro for SCM.?? The LT saws are from ACM out of Italy - except for very early models which were fabricated by Meber.
D
On Thursday, January 27, 2022, 10:57:10 AM EST, Steve Lyde via groups.io <stlyde@...> wrote:
I have a Laguna LT16 which I mostly use for resaw work and I can say it’s a great machine. ?My understanding is the LT16 and 18 are actually made by SCM in Italy but I could be wrong on that. Anyone know for sure? Steve Lyde On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:44 AM, john adank <lseap107@...> wrote:
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I’m also interested in this conversation as I want to upgrade my 14” Delta and purchase a new 14” saw with larger table and better guides. ?I would also like to purchase an additional bandsaw just for re-sawing. ?I’ve looked at the Laguna 14bx for smaller work as well as the LT18 Resaw Master for larger projects. ?I’m also considering the Minimax S440P or old MM16. ?I’ve spoken to Sam Blasco of Minimax a few times about this saw. ?It’s well made but I wish it had an adjustable height fence. ?He has an older outdated video on this saw and it looks quite versatile for re-sawing and curved/scroll work.
John Adank Onalaska, WI On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Tom,?
I ordered a handful of small parts for ceramic guides that took over 6 months to receive in multiple deliveries. It was a painful experience. I'm convinced Laguna is a well oiled import machine, but not convinced they are really a "services after the sale" kind of company. Furthermore, I think I went through this process and looked at the same machine? a few years back and at that time they had availability issues, nothing in the warehouse to sell at the time, and I couldn't find anyone who owned one to reference an opinion. I will also say as I have learned, 5hp is the minimum I'd consider for any substantial resawing quantities. I have? a contact that bought an LT24 used/auction and immediately determined the 5 hp to be junk and mounted a 10hp in its place because it was the biggest that he could fit. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM < tom@...> wrote: Resurrecting this thread to pose the following question:?
I currently have a Laguna LT14SUV (14" Asian-made machine, 14" resaw, 3 hp motor) that I'd like to set up just for curved work, and adding a second band saw that I'd use as a dedicated ripping machine. I'm running a one-person operation and seem to be specializing in taking on small, one-off jobs, working directly with clients or serving as back-up for other local shops. I'm currently in a ~700 sq-ft Shop, so space is a bit of an issue (likely prevents the 30"+ machines), but it's possible I could sneak in a 24" machine.?
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
Highlights:
-- Leeson 5hp motor, available in 3-phase
-- Italian-made, not sure who though (likely ACM?)
-- 18" resaw height
-- Uses the Laguna ceramic guides
-- Cost is comparable to a FB610
-- Accepts a 2" blade
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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no, no NO !???
If you have the space for the 610 - get it.?? Otherwise get the 510.? It's the apples to apples saw for the resaw master.
Laguna has no peer if you're in to customer no-service.? They're all buddy buddy before the sale but after ? ? ??? Their sales weasel mentality is on display here.? RSM only meant to take a 2" blade ??? WTF ??? It doesn't have the capability to properly tension a 2" carbide blade.? It ain't gonna do curves very well with a 3/4" min. blade width but you don't care about that.? Rick is ignorant, mis-informed, fibbing, or stoopid.? None of which are attributes.
ACM is making that saw for Laguna.
The only significance a 2" blade has over 1-1/4" in your case is bragging rights. ? Are you under the impression another +3/4" width is going to give you a faster or superior cut ? ? The only real plus I see Laguna having over Felder is the Baldor motor.?? And that's not enough for me to put up with the rest of the Laguna hassle.
You should also consider a MiniMax - SCM saw.
D
On Thursday, January 27, 2022, 09:22:39 AM EST, tom@... <tom@...> wrote:
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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I have a Laguna LT16 which I mostly use for resaw work and I can say it’s a great machine. ?My understanding is the LT16 and 18 are actually made by SCM in Italy but I could be wrong on that. Anyone know for sure? Steve Lyde
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On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:44 AM, john adank <lseap107@...> wrote:
? I’m also interested in this conversation as I want to upgrade my 14” Delta and purchase a new 14” saw with larger table and better guides. ?I would also like to purchase an additional bandsaw just for re-sawing. ?I’ve looked at the Laguna 14bx for smaller work as well as the LT18 Resaw Master for larger projects. ?I’m also considering the Minimax S440P or old MM16. ?I’ve spoken to Sam Blasco of Minimax a few times about this saw. ?It’s well made but I wish it had an adjustable height fence. ?He has an older outdated video on this saw and it looks quite versatile for re-sawing and curved/scroll work.
John Adank Onalaska, WI On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Tom,?
I ordered a handful of small parts for ceramic guides that took over 6 months to receive in multiple deliveries. It was a painful experience. I'm convinced Laguna is a well oiled import machine, but not convinced they are really a "services after the sale" kind of company. Furthermore, I think I went through this process and looked at the same machine? a few years back and at that time they had availability issues, nothing in the warehouse to sell at the time, and I couldn't find anyone who owned one to reference an opinion. I will also say as I have learned, 5hp is the minimum I'd consider for any substantial resawing quantities. I have? a contact that bought an LT24 used/auction and immediately determined the 5 hp to be junk and mounted a 10hp in its place because it was the biggest that he could fit. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM < tom@...> wrote: Resurrecting this thread to pose the following question:?
I currently have a Laguna LT14SUV (14" Asian-made machine, 14" resaw, 3 hp motor) that I'd like to set up just for curved work, and adding a second band saw that I'd use as a dedicated ripping machine. I'm running a one-person operation and seem to be specializing in taking on small, one-off jobs, working directly with clients or serving as back-up for other local shops. I'm currently in a ~700 sq-ft Shop, so space is a bit of an issue (likely prevents the 30"+ machines), but it's possible I could sneak in a 24" machine.?
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
Highlights:
-- Leeson 5hp motor, available in 3-phase
-- Italian-made, not sure who though (likely ACM?)
-- 18" resaw height
-- Uses the Laguna ceramic guides
-- Cost is comparable to a FB610
-- Accepts a 2" blade
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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I’m also interested in this conversation as I want to upgrade my 14” Delta and purchase a new 14” saw with larger table and better guides. ?I would also like to purchase an additional bandsaw just for re-sawing. ?I’ve looked at the Laguna 14bx for smaller work as well as the LT18 Resaw Master for larger projects. ?I’m also considering the Minimax S440P or old MM16. ?I’ve spoken to Sam Blasco of Minimax a few times about this saw. ?It’s well made but I wish it had an adjustable height fence. ?He has an older outdated video on this saw and it looks quite versatile for re-sawing and curved/scroll work.
John Adank
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On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Tom,?
I ordered a handful of small parts for ceramic guides that took over 6 months to receive in multiple deliveries. It was a painful experience. I'm convinced Laguna is a well oiled import machine, but not convinced they are really a "services after the sale" kind of company. Furthermore, I think I went through this process and looked at the same machine? a few years back and at that time they had availability issues, nothing in the warehouse to sell at the time, and I couldn't find anyone who owned one to reference an opinion. I will also say as I have learned, 5hp is the minimum I'd consider for any substantial resawing quantities. I have? a contact that bought an LT24 used/auction and immediately determined the 5 hp to be junk and mounted a 10hp in its place because it was the biggest that he could fit. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM < tom@...> wrote: Resurrecting this thread to pose the following question:?
I currently have a Laguna LT14SUV (14" Asian-made machine, 14" resaw, 3 hp motor) that I'd like to set up just for curved work, and adding a second band saw that I'd use as a dedicated ripping machine. I'm running a one-person operation and seem to be specializing in taking on small, one-off jobs, working directly with clients or serving as back-up for other local shops. I'm currently in a ~700 sq-ft Shop, so space is a bit of an issue (likely prevents the 30"+ machines), but it's possible I could sneak in a 24" machine.?
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
Highlights:
-- Leeson 5hp motor, available in 3-phase
-- Italian-made, not sure who though (likely ACM?)
-- 18" resaw height
-- Uses the Laguna ceramic guides
-- Cost is comparable to a FB610
-- Accepts a 2" blade
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Tom,?
I ordered a handful of small parts for ceramic guides that took over 6 months to receive in multiple deliveries. It was a painful experience. I'm convinced Laguna is a well oiled import machine, but not convinced they are really a "services after the sale" kind of company. Furthermore, I think I went through this process and looked at the same machine? a few years back and at that time they had availability issues, nothing in the warehouse to sell at the time, and I couldn't find anyone who owned one to reference an opinion. I will also say as I have learned, 5hp is the minimum I'd consider for any substantial resawing quantities. I have? a contact that bought an LT24 used/auction and immediately determined the 5 hp to be junk and mounted a 10hp in its place because it was the biggest that he could fit.
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM < tom@...> wrote: Resurrecting this thread to pose the following question:?
I currently have a Laguna LT14SUV (14" Asian-made machine, 14" resaw, 3 hp motor) that I'd like to set up just for curved work, and adding a second band saw that I'd use as a dedicated ripping machine. I'm running a one-person operation and seem to be specializing in taking on small, one-off jobs, working directly with clients or serving as back-up for other local shops. I'm currently in a ~700 sq-ft Shop, so space is a bit of an issue (likely prevents the 30"+ machines), but it's possible I could sneak in a 24" machine.?
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
Highlights:
-- Leeson 5hp motor, available in 3-phase
-- Italian-made, not sure who though (likely ACM?)
-- 18" resaw height
-- Uses the Laguna ceramic guides
-- Cost is comparable to a FB610
-- Accepts a 2" blade
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Re: Cross cut fence zero clearance insert
#k700s
Thanks, everyone, for your helpful comments. My wish list was created to save time. Now, I realize it would take more time (and money) to source most of them than to make them or make due.
- I will fill the gaps on my heat-shrunk 4" elbow for the overhead guard and ignore it.
- Last night I "machined" slider inserts with a hand plane using a scrap of 150-yr-old oak (very hard and stable).
- I'll continue using hose for the shaper duct, similar to Bill's picture.?
This leaves the zero-clearance throat plate. I'm tired of pulling slivers of wood out of the ducts when they get sucked in, and I don't want to dedicate the time to making the throat plate. I wonder if something other than the $82 Felder () is available. Since John Renzetti's email was omitted and I have a KF700S (not a K940), I'm still looking.
Thanks again,
Mike
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Resurrecting this thread to pose the following question:?
I currently have a Laguna LT14SUV (14" Asian-made machine, 14" resaw, 3 hp motor) that I'd like to set up just for curved work, and adding a second band saw that I'd use as a dedicated ripping machine. I'm running a one-person operation and seem to be specializing in taking on small, one-off jobs, working directly with clients or serving as back-up for other local shops. I'm currently in a ~700 sq-ft Shop, so space is a bit of an issue (likely prevents the 30"+ machines), but it's possible I could sneak in a 24" machine.?
I had been looking at a FB610 for my ripping saw, but I came across the Laguna LT18 Resaw Master and I think it might be the perfect fit for my needs, but wanted to defer to the wisdom of the Group.?
Laguna LT18 Resaw Master:??
Highlights:
-- Leeson 5hp motor, available in 3-phase
-- Italian-made, not sure who though (likely ACM?)
-- 18" resaw height
-- Uses the Laguna ceramic guides
-- Cost is comparable to a FB610
-- Accepts a 2" blade
The appeal to me of this machine is that it fulfills my wish for a capable ripping/resaw machine in a relatively compact package. I spoke with Rick down at Laguna and he said that the saw is really only meant to take a 2" blade, and that anything smaller would require a lot of fussing. So, it's going to be a "one trick pony", but since that'd what I'm after it shouldn't be a problem, right??
Ultimately, I suppose my questions to the group are:
-- Is there a significant advantage to acquiring a machine that can pull a 2" blade, compared to a more "standard" machine that would pull, say, a 1-1/4" blade? Again, I'm after a dedicated ripping machine, so the 2" capacity appeals to me, but I wonder if "more" somehow doesn't translate to "better" in this situation??
-- I heard that Laguna had developed a horrendous reputation for poor or nonexistent support awhile back, but it was my understanding that there was a shakeup in Management a few years ago and that things have improved since then. Does anybody have any input or knowledge on the current state of affairs there??
Thank you in advance for any input.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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100%. Could throw the package off the roof of a semi going 75 down the highway and it would survive.
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Re: Short Crosscut Fence Usage on 10' Sliders
Thanks everyone. Best I can tell, the small fence is convenient at times, but isn't necessary. Swapping it between saw and shaper isn't a big deal for the small number of times you might do it. I'll get some extra T nuts.
David, I've read about the fence inaccuracies over the years and followed the discussion as you were developing the upgrade. I plan to add the tenoning plate. Cabinet doors are probably going to make up a majority of the work. I purchased Mac's horizontal clamp right after he released it. Your video is what prompted me to add it.?
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Re: Hammer K3 scoring unit
If something snags your scoring blade such that it doesn't turn, the belt will break fairly quickly. Check the inside of the cabinet floor to see if it's there or feel around the back to see if it's loose on the pulleys. A new one from Felder is fairly quick. But if you use it a lot (I don't), best to have a spare on hand. It's much easier to replace with the main blade fully up or fully down. I don't remember which.
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Finally received my BF5-26 this afternoon! ?Please see attached photos. It is in good shape but just needs some cleaning and general maintenance. Thanks to Brian and Marlowe for earlier responses in regards to this acquisition. It came with the mortiser, MANY attachments, manuals, shaper cutters, 8 carbide saw blades, spare parts, and 3 sets of jointer/planer blades. All motors and switches work well. They are single phase 2.5hp. ? Also added a Delta 17-990x drill press to the mix! I think I will be buying at least 1 extra extension table while they are still available from Felder (thanks again Brian). Got the Felder and Delta delivered for $3k. Bit more than I wanted to spend - but way better equipment than I was expecting. My workshop is currently a one car garage until our house gets built. So size more than money was the main consideration. Will ?have to sell my Powermatic model 50 jointer as it is now redundant. I just finished restoration tonight! ?Will be crying when it goes out the door. Hopefully it will have another 63 years of use for the new owner. ?The Felder also came with some extra shaper belts. These seem to have taken a set as they have been stored for some time. ?The bearings on the shaper spindle seem a little wonky also. Saw a recent post on changing the bearings. It was quite informative. Exactly the kind of info I was looking for. ?So for questions: What preventative maintenance should I be performing? What is a good place to get bearings/belts/etc? Any suggestions on helpful jigs? I honestly enjoy restoring this stuff almost as much as woodworking. You will also see an Extrema bandsaw rebuild nearing completion. Please let me know if this is too lengthy. Regards, Dan B.
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On Jan 26, 2022, at 5:22 PM, David Kumm < davekumm@...> wrote:
Tension depends on the saw but experiment and see what works.? 25000+ is the sweet spot on my saw but others have different opinions.? I'd start at 15K and go to 20K and then 25K if the saw can do it.? Watch that the spring doesn't bottom out and the blade tracks consistently.? Too much tension can cause the frame to flex as the wheels turn and cause the blade to track weird. ?
The key with a meter is make sure it is loaded when the blade is slack so you get the same number each time you tension.? You will get a feel but the first few times can be deceiving.? Make sure the blade doesn't move forward and into the guard and dull the teeth, and don't depend on the rear bearing to support the blade.? If that bearing spins it can heat the band.? Keep the band lubed to help cool it when taking a heavy cut and depending on the back bearing.? Most of the time the bearing isn't needed but that is also dependent on tension and how fast you push the stock.? Dave
I sent this to Lennox support:
Mfsta2lt
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This was the reply I received:
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Thoughts, comments, best practice? My Bandsaw manual says tighten utill you can push the blade 1/4 to 3/8 with "firm" pressure.... -- ?Mark Foster
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Re: Hammer K3 scoring unit
I had a K500 and the scoring blade was run by a small belt run off the main motor. Sometime it would come off the pulley another time it had broken. Your manual show show how the belt is positioned. I always had an extra on hand.?
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Re: Short Crosscut Fence Usage on 10' Sliders
I was just making my adjustments on that short fence last night and they have an indexing flip stop on my slider bed, which works with an adjustable screw and locking nut on the fence. I have mine dialed in to 90 and have removed it a couple times now to get a feel for the whole system, it’s staying true for me. Maybe they have made sone improvements here? Nope, you’re just lucky - or you’re not measuring the repeatability of registration accurately. David Best
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Re: Short Crosscut Fence Usage on 10' Sliders
Ed,
That’s exactly the setup I have. ?I share a single 1100mm crosscut fence between the saw and shaper. ?It helps to put some extra T-nuts into the slider for Mac’s clamps - so that the fixed-position T-nut for the 1100mm crosscut fence isn’t such a hindrance repositioning Mac’s clamps. ?Ask Mac for a couple extra T-nuts and just leave them loose in the slider T-slot. ?I don’t use the short 1100mm crosscut fence often on my Kappa 400 saw, but it comes in handy when I have the outrigger table off the machine stored on the mobility cart, and I need to make a few simple crosscuts. ?But I use it all the time on my Profil 45Z shaper.
The biggest problem with the 1100mm crosscut fence (on either the saw or the shaper) is that the system Felder came up with for registering the fence square to the travel of the slider is sloppy as hell. ?That’s what inspired me to come up with a retrofit kit that deals with its inaccuracy. ?You might want to look at the first few videos in this series: ?? ?And here is the retrofit kit I came up with: ??
If you plan to use the shaper to cut mortise/tenon joints or to counter-profile door corner joints (cope cuts) you will want the Felder tenoning plate, especially if using clamps hung out closer to the spindle. ?Details on that setup and use are here: ?? ?For cope and tenoning operations, I have found Mac’s “horizontal” clamp very helpful keeping the material clamped against the crosscut fence and securing the backer board.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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On Jan 26, 2022, at 5:48 PM, Ed Mazuronis via < egmiii@...> wrote:
I currently have a KF700s with a 3200mm slider. I ordered it with the 1100mm crosscut fence (along with the full fence and digital stops) since it was a lot more to add on later. I've found that I've never used it. Mainly because the T nut bolted into the slider slot prevents me from moving Macs clamps from end to end.
I'm considering a Profil 45 Z, and was going to skip the fence option and just use the one from my slider instead. I'm trying to keep the cost down and it's an easy way to save $450 or so. But before I do, I'm wondering if I'm missing out in some way by not using it on the slider. Does anyone here use it? If so, how, and why do you use it over the main fence and outrigger?
Thanks.
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Hi All,
I received my Hammer K3 sliding table saw almost two weeks ago. I
used made a few cuts with the scoring blade within a few days of
setting up the saw, and was happy with the results.
Today, I was setting up to cut some plywood and I realized that it is
no longer working (the scoring blade does not spin when the saw is
powered up, as it should.
Does anyone have an idea of what I should do? Is there an easy fix?
Thanks,
JH
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John Huelsenbeck
Department of Integrative Biology
University of California, Berkeley
Berkeley, CA 94720
(510) 502-5887
johnh@...
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Re: Short Crosscut Fence Usage on 10' Sliders
I was just making my adjustments on that short fence last night and they have an indexing flip stop on my slider bed, which works with an adjustable screw and locking nut on the fence. ?I have mine dialed in to 90 and have removed it a couple times now to get a feel for the whole system, it’s staying true for me. ?Maybe they have made sone improvements here? ?
Wade
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On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:07 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? I have one and got it from felder for free, I use it occasionally and would probably use it more if getting back to 90 was repeatable but it ain’t so it sits…
David B makes a fix for that… On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:59 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I use the short xcut fence often. I like that the rear of the cut is backed by the sacrificial block. I also use pneumatic clamps and solved the problem you mention by leaving an extra nut in the slider in front of the xcut securing nut.
Imran
On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:48 PM, Ed Mazuronis via groups.io <egmiii@...> wrote:
?I currently have a KF700s with a 3200mm slider. I ordered it with the 1100mm crosscut fence (along with the full fence and digital stops) since it was a lot more to add on later. I've found that I've never used it. Mainly because the T nut bolted into the slider slot prevents me from moving Macs clamps from end to end.
I'm considering a Profil 45 Z, and was going to skip the fence option and just use the one from my slider instead. I'm trying to keep the cost down and it's an easy way to save $450 or so. But before I do, I'm wondering if I'm missing out in some way by not using it on the slider. Does anyone here use it? If so, how, and why do you use it over the main fence and outrigger?
Thanks.
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Re: Short Crosscut Fence Usage on 10' Sliders
I have one and got it from felder for free, I use it occasionally and would probably use it more if getting back to 90 was repeatable but it ain’t so it sits…
David B makes a fix for that…
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On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:59 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I use the short xcut fence often. I like that the rear of the cut is backed by the sacrificial block. I also use pneumatic clamps and solved the problem you mention by leaving an extra nut in the slider in front of the xcut securing nut.
Imran
On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:48 PM, Ed Mazuronis via groups.io <egmiii@...> wrote:
?I currently have a KF700s with a 3200mm slider. I ordered it with the 1100mm crosscut fence (along with the full fence and digital stops) since it was a lot more to add on later. I've found that I've never used it. Mainly because the T nut bolted into the slider slot prevents me from moving Macs clamps from end to end.
I'm considering a Profil 45 Z, and was going to skip the fence option and just use the one from my slider instead. I'm trying to keep the cost down and it's an easy way to save $450 or so. But before I do, I'm wondering if I'm missing out in some way by not using it on the slider. Does anyone here use it? If so, how, and why do you use it over the main fence and outrigger?
Thanks.
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