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Re: RL 160 remote start challenge
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开云体育Mike, Thanks for the elaboration on Festool BT. Unfortunately, I do not know anything about RL160. My RL125 is a simpler setup, electrically speaking. From what I gather you would like a cleaner solution. Here is how I will go about it. The relay?current requirement?(in Bill’s case 15A @ 120VAC) should be very low as the main contactor is in RL. I would confirm this before picking a relay but in many cases even the compact solutions offer relays that can handle 6 to 10A. So I would pick a 315 MHz or 433 MHz remote (transmitter) and 1 ch receiver for this purpose. I am not aware of any that go on DIN rail. You may be able to buy a DIN mount that can be attached to module. I have not looked at my brake board lately but it must have a screw-on DIN mount. I am currently waiting on parts similar to what you should be able to use to place two green and one red button on my slider to have remote on/off capability. I went with home controls for my project and below is one option that may work for you. They offer more choices. Add a compatible remote which they also offer. One issue might be availability of 24VAC or VDC for the receiver. So verify that you have a transformer in your RL. If not then that is something you will need to add. You could just buy a 12VDC wall wart that provides the required input current. Finally, you might be able to use your festool unit. I assume it runs on 110VAC?but you will need to find out: if it has a relay (NO or NC and what kind of signal is on common) or communication signal of sort using a serial bus. Imran On Jan 25, 2021, at 11:39 PM, Mike Bemis <Michaelsbemis@...> wrote:
?Imran, Someday I'll hardwire everything. For the time being flexibility is desired for no other reason than it is one less thing to do/re-do. I was after the Festool remote first because It was small, clean and I did not see any other turnkey solutions. My first thought was because it was a kit with both the remote and receiver that received power from a 110v vacuum I was hoping it could be wired into the RL directly taking power from the machine and sending a trigger output signal somewhere. It has the potential to be elegant. I agree the remote was small and the idea there was to clip on my shirt or wear it like a watch.? The iVac remote is fine. Felder should offer an OEM solution in my opinion, everyone I know had a remote start on their dust collectors before making an upgrade to any RL units only to then cobble together solutions.? Thanks Bill and Scott for solving round 1.? I am curious if there are any of the circuit breaker looking modules that would handle the relay portion being triggered with 220v even if at slightly higher cost. There is a 220V iVac for $90 on Amazon (no 120V). Thinking it can be placed inside the RL hardwired into power and do the same to? a more industrial relay (no off/on switch and easy rail mounting). If there was no budget how would you do it again getting as close to an "OEM" look as possible?? This may also help Rick with another RL160 above. (Does this jumping pins 7 & 8 cause issues with the motors getting up to speed?) -- Mike B |
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Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
开云体育I love my quincy. Qt5 i believe. Big upgrade to my harbor freight 5hp or whAtever it was that imploded. Dont see a need for a smallCompressor which is likely noisier than the low hum of the quincy.? Taylor Donsker www.tdonsker.com 818.424.9046 On Jan 25, 2021, at 8:35 PM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
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X-Roll Festool quick clamp adapter T nuts
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DIY clamps - printed T-nut. I have seen a few wooden solutions and various pneumatic clamps and wanted to offer this solution for anyone desiring a low cost clamping option presuming one has access to a 3D printer. Material cost is around a dollar. I have found them very effective for cabinet sheet work when combined with a larger clamp that reaches over the fence such as the Felder one (annoying setup-mods in future posts) or the Macs version (on order thanks to the bad influences in this group). Glad to share the print file should anyone wish to try them out and plan on making another set for the square slot in the "miter" guide. The clamp already fits in the support arm as shown.
My first go was a scrap of 1/4" ply and a duct tape handle to slide it around. In the second iteration I cut? a notch out of the ply to hold the clamp vertical but it was still not a convenient assembly. Then came 2020, Covid and a news article covering a company in Europe (Prusa) who made 3d printers and was doing good for their town. A beverage or two, a credit card and a couple weeks later a printer kit arrived. Turns out no one wanted the printed face shields in my town so I made the one item I actually wanted that was perfectly suited for plastic. Free sliding plastic T-nuts fully capturing the Festool ratchet clamp holding it vertical and keeping it from scratching the T-slot. The "nut" can stay in the table and the clamp removed, or slid together as necessary. The snug fit allows for non binding and the upper nut surface is a mm or so below the table surface ensuring the work piece is pressed against the table when clamped. Any of the long time members or contributors think a #3D_Print would be prudent to create?? -- Mike B |
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Re: Auction in WA with unipoint RAS, Lift tables, Altendorf, Resaw Bandsaw Etc
开云体育I have had a few , also known as EMA the old ones are great very heavy dutyI have there 630 sizer, love it. Body is rolled 10 mm plate internals are cast. martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Jan 25, 2021, at 4:50 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
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Re: RL 160 remote start challenge
#diy
#dustcollection
Imran,
Someday I'll hardwire everything. For the time being flexibility is desired for no other reason than it is one less thing to do/re-do. I was after the Festool remote first because It was small, clean and I did not see any other turnkey solutions. My first thought was because it was a kit with both the remote and receiver that received power from a 110v vacuum I was hoping it could be wired into the RL directly taking power from the machine and sending a trigger output signal somewhere. It has the potential to be elegant. I agree the remote was small and the idea there was to clip on my shirt or wear it like a watch.? The iVac remote is fine. Felder should offer an OEM solution in my opinion, everyone I know had a remote start on their dust collectors before making an upgrade to any RL units only to then cobble together solutions.? Thanks Bill and Scott for solving round 1.? I am curious if there are any of the circuit breaker looking modules that would handle the relay portion being triggered with 220v even if at slightly higher cost. There is a 220V iVac for $90 on Amazon (no 120V). Thinking it can be placed inside the RL hardwired into power and do the same to? a more industrial relay (no off/on switch and easy rail mounting). If there was no budget how would you do it again getting as close to an "OEM" look as possible?? This may also help Rick with another RL160 above. (Does this jumping pins 7 & 8 cause issues with the motors getting up to speed?) -- Mike B |
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Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
开云体育I rebuilt a 5 hp ingersal ?rand about 25 years ago ,twin head cast iron , machined the heads , new gaskets , cleaned the tank , installed new reeds and been chugging away ever sense, new filter and oil.Used to blast for prep but found the 5 hp 80 gallon tank just couldn’t keep up,? I use an air needle tool know for prep. People that blast for me have BIG compressors. martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Jan 25, 2021, at 9:53 PM, Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:
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Re: RL 160 remote start challenge
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#dustcollection
开云体育Rick, I don’t have a list of parts but the button substitute would be a timed relay triggered by the remote.? I would think remote start kits would tigger the relay.? The stop would trigger a relay on the stop line to open it.? We can chat. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Rick Fisher
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] RL 160 remote start challenge #diy #dustcollection ? I have a single phase RL160.? I have to hold the button until it reaches speed.? I plan to move it to the basement very soon and wondered about a remote.?? I'm hoping I can get enough info from this thread for an electrician to be able to make it work ... lol?? ? Is there a list of parts needed ??
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Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
开云体育On pressure, I run my Quincy QR325 with a 3HP motor at 400 RPM, soooo quiet at that low RPM.? Also I realized I don’t need 175 psi, just heats up the air more. I run at 120 psi.? I’ve had no issue for years with an HVLP gun.? If I ever do I can change motors and pulleys and run with 5HP. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Mike Bemis
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 8:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style ? eBay was my solution, reportedly it was new old stock and the various fittings were from automationdirect.com. The main reduction regulator (Input 300 max-output 125 psi) can set up a harmonic in the tank when at full flow and whistle.
I can say the dial regulators are fantastic if you routinely need different pressures (turned off in the image, when the tank is on that gauge will show 80 matching the dial.) The regulators are 1/2" ensuring decent airflow. |
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Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
eBay was my solution, reportedly it was new old stock and the various fittings were from automationdirect.com. The main reduction regulator (Input 300 max-output 125 psi) can set up a harmonic in the tank when at full flow and whistle. I can say the dial regulators are fantastic if you routinely need different pressures (turned off in the image, when the tank is on that gauge will show 80 matching the dial.) The regulators are 1/2" ensuring decent airflow.
-- Mike B |
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Re: Auction in WA with unipoint RAS, Lift tables, Altendorf, Resaw Bandsaw Etc
Casadei is made in Italy and owned by SCM.? Newer machines castings can hold an SCM imprint.? Quality of Casadei is high? ? in the Felder, Scm range. On Mon., Jan. 25, 2021, 1:34 p.m. Mike Bemis, <Michaelsbemis@...> wrote: The "new" Casadei machines are close enough to pick up. In particular the F25 tilting shaper currently at $4K. Anyone have experience with the brand and if it is worth pursuing even without a sliding table? Use scenario small shop with furniture making dreams. (Have an old Delta used twice mainly due to the guard being such a pain and having a first piece explode placing it on my most feared machine list. Not worth much to sell and begs to be converted into a router table...too many ideas.) Would add an Aigner guard to any new machine and dream of the tilt up version on the Felder Profil 45 but that's dreaming money. |
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Re: Auction in WA with unipoint RAS, Lift tables, Altendorf, Resaw Bandsaw Etc
开云体育Hi Mike,The two wide belt machines that were on this auction were both three belt models. ?Each belt had a separate motor. ?The table belt had a separate motor to move the stock through the machine. ?Like you, I have no practical experience with these machines. ?The control panel for the machine looked like it had controls for each belt. ?Joe Calhoun has a multiple sanding belt machine in his shout in Ouray Colorado. We got to use it during one of the classes I attended. ?His is either a two or three belt machine. ?I don’t recall for certain which. ?Unfortunately, I didn’t think to look and see if it used both belts all the time. ? It was very useful to rough sand large flat projects, and to some degree to bring those items to a correct thickness. ?I can see a great advantage for production work with one of these machines. ?Unfortunately, they eat a lot of power, and they have rather large dust collection requirements. Alex On Jan 25, 2021, at 3:00 PM, Mike Bemis <Michaelsbemis@...> wrote:
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Re: RL 160 remote start challenge
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#dustcollection
开云体育Sorry Mike, I mixed you up with Mitch, who recently inquired about hooking up STW1K. Looks like Bill J just posted what you are looking for. I am still curious why you prefer this solution. The remote is designed to fit on the hose and is small. Maybe you plan to have it on yourself, then finding it won’t be an issue. Just saying, I had the remote for 18 yrs and I love auto start and stop. It avoids the few times I forget to start the DC. Unfortunately, I still have to watch for blast gates ? Imran On Jan 25, 2021, at 9:41 PM, Mike Bemis <Michaelsbemis@...> wrote:
?Imran, The RL 160 is single phase 230V KW 3.0, 60 HZ and 19Amps per the label made in 2017. It has manual filter cleaning and has the auto start selection on the control panel.?I never did connect the STW1K primarily because the machines were mobile and the extension cords were shared with other metalworking equipment not needing dust collection.? The Festool remote which is Bluetooth is this setup part # 202097 and works like a champ on their vacuum. Far more useful than anticipated for cleanup tasks but I digress. Does this din rail component meet the $20 part utility? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FKFNQCT/ref=pd_luc_rh_sspa_dk_huc_pt_expsub_0?psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFGNUFSMTdYSUU0OFMmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2MzQ3OTAyME9QWDlDWVZVUkhMJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA4Njc4NjIyU0czQ1JETlVSSlY1JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfaHVjX21yYWkmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl
<Zoom in RL160.jpg> <Inside RL 160.jpg> <Ziehl blue box.jpg> -- Mike B |
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Re: RL 160 remote start challenge
#diy
#dustcollection
Here is the thread for a dump proof remote that was described multiple time in this forum,
/g/felderownersgroup/message/101395 Bill |
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Re: RL 160 remote start challenge
#diy
#dustcollection
Imran, The RL 160 is single phase 230V KW 3.0, 60 HZ and 19Amps per the label made in 2017. It has manual filter cleaning and has the auto start selection on the control panel.?I never did connect the STW1K primarily because the machines were mobile and the extension cords were shared with other metalworking equipment not needing dust collection.?
The Festool remote which is Bluetooth is this setup part # 202097 and works like a champ on their vacuum. Far more useful than anticipated for cleanup tasks but I digress. Does this din rail component meet the $20 part utility? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FKFNQCT/ref=pd_luc_rh_sspa_dk_huc_pt_expsub_0?psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFGNUFSMTdYSUU0OFMmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2MzQ3OTAyME9QWDlDWVZVUkhMJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA4Njc4NjIyU0czQ1JETlVSSlY1JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfaHVjX21yYWkmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl
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Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
My son bought a used QR325 that had been in a flood.? Bought a rebuild seal kit...many hours of work and it's as good as new. Dave Davies On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 8:16 PM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Re: RL 160 remote start challenge
#diy
#dustcollection
I have a single phase RL160.? I have to hold the button until it reaches speed.? I plan to move it to the basement very soon and wondered about a remote.??
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I'm hoping I can get enough info from this thread for an electrician to be able to make it work ... lol?? Is there a list of parts needed ?? On Monday, January 25, 2021, Mike Bemis <Michaelsbemis@...> wrote: I have a challenge for the electronically inclined members of the forum and am hopeful someone already had this idea. The ultimate goal is to use the very nice Festool remote button to start my single phase 220V RL 160. I don’t want to hard wire any auto starts and while I am open to an off the shelf solution (have not located one) the end goal is the Festool watch face sized button remote with the receiver/pair button being installed in the dust collector (plenty of room to cut an opening and run wiring behind for a clean look. |
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Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
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There isn't much to rebuilding the QR series but like everything else, it can be a crap shoot if the piston or bearings are an issue.? the valves are a no brainer to clean up.? the QT is the low end pump and you don't rehab those.? I think the 350 or 370 10
hp pumps are more appropriate for a pressurized blaster but do your homework.? Sometimes you can find a duplex compressor on CL or FB.? Two 325 with one tank.? Use one or both when necessary.? Dave
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Anthony Quesada <tonymiga2@...>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 9:02 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style ?
Dave,
Thanks for the recommendation.? thanks to your previous comments I have my eyes out for one of these 325’s.? I am still building skills, but think I would enjoy the challenge of a rebuild if I can source one.? I don’t own a blast cabinet yet- waiting for the shop to be built before Ill have the space.? But I am leaning toward a PSBC990 Pressurized pot style cabinet.? Spec sheet claims? 25 CFM @80 PSI with 5MM nozzle, but it also appears that from several users that the pressurized pot cuts down on that requirement.? Again, I have used blasters, but this will be my first personal setup so I am ridding pretty blind here.? Anthony |
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Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
开云体育Hey Mike,?Some really helpful info in this post. ?I hadn’t thought about the regulator issue at 175 psi. ?Thank you for bringing that up. ?Do you recall where you were finally able to source these?? I was leaning toward the same conclusion regarding preserving phase converter capacity. ?Ill continue down this path. ? thanks again for taking the time,? Anthony?
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Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
Dave,
Thanks for the recommendation. thanks to your previous comments I have my eyes out for one of these 325’s. I am still building skills, but think I would enjoy the challenge of a rebuild if I can source one. I don’t own a blast cabinet yet- waiting for the shop to be built before Ill have the space. But I am leaning toward a PSBC990 Pressurized pot style cabinet. Spec sheet claims 25 CFM @80 PSI with 5MM nozzle, but it also appears that from several users that the pressurized pot cuts down on that requirement. Again, I have used blasters, but this will be my first personal setup so I am ridding pretty blind here. Anthony |