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Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

 

My Quincy compressor has 2 relief valves in case one fails.
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Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

 

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Thanks for the reminder on the cal air, I think I left mine on overnight- hope the shop didn’t go up in ?while I am at work...

Regards, Mark

On Jan 26, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?I started with a California Air Tools compressor, but I tended to leave it on and the valve that releases the head pressure stuck one day and I came into the shop and the unit had almost caught fire, the motor was completely smoked and melted. So, I recently found a used Sil-Air and went thru it, the oil for them isn’t cheap, and one of the compressors (there are three on this one) wasn’t running. Fortunately I took the top off, manually turned the motor and it freed up and is running great now. This thing is so quiet you really have to listen if it’s running or not, definitely can’t hear it over other machines.?

I’ll keep my eyes open for more of these, you can just gang the compressors together to get whatever CFM you want, I think each head puts out about 2CFM, so mine runs a bit over 6CFM. That’s plenty for clamps and nailers, not good enough for air tools and most likely spraying, which I do very little of.

Brian Lamb
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www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Anthony Quesada <tonymiga2@...> wrote:

Brian, I couldn’t agree more. ?When my dads' 40 gallon kicks on it seems like I have never heard the noise before. ?It startles me every time!?




On Jan 26, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

If that’s all the sand blasting you intend to do, then definitely look at no more than a 5hp unit. As for the smaller unit, look for quiet…. period. The most irritating noise in the shop is the compressor... and they start when you least expect.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Jan 26, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Anthony Quesada <tonymiga2@...> wrote:

Great comments and questions!

If previous experience is any indication, the blast cabinet will be used sporadically and extremely lightly by commercial standards, as I am a hobbyist that loves both metal and wood. ?I can see the cabinet getting used 15 minutes here and 20 minutes there with weeks in between without use. ? I am very, very much a beginner machinist/metal worker, but hope to develop the skills over time. ?

Love Brian's idea of getting a more "modest" 5HP compressor and being patient if the blast cabinet can't keep up. ?

Regarding the small compressor down line of the larger one.... I never would have thought of this, but thankfully it was mentioned here. ?Since most of my use can be served by a little pancake type compressor, I would view this as taking the nimble and quick scooter out to get a carton of milk from the corner store vs a large pickup truck with trailer behind. ? ?Both get the job done, but one is quieter, more efficient and quicker for the specific task.

Anthony?






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I would like to get the 3d file as well please. ?My email is elwinkershaw@....

Much Thanks!

Elwin Kershaw


On Jan 26, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Uncle T. via groups.io <utplo@...> wrote:

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Hi Mike,?
This is creatively elegant yet simple. I'm not in the position to purchase pneumatic clamps at this time, but I do have access to a 3D printer. I would love to give this a try on my K500S with X-Roll. Thanks for offering to send the print file, you can PM to me.?
I like the idea of starting?#3D_Print (newb opinion)
Matt

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I started with a California Air Tools compressor, but I tended to leave it on and the valve that releases the head pressure stuck one day and I came into the shop and the unit had almost caught fire, the motor was completely smoked and melted. So, I recently found a used Sil-Air and went thru it, the oil for them isn’t cheap, and one of the compressors (there are three on this one) wasn’t running. Fortunately I took the top off, manually turned the motor and it freed up and is running great now. This thing is so quiet you really have to listen if it’s running or not, definitely can’t hear it over other machines.?

I’ll keep my eyes open for more of these, you can just gang the compressors together to get whatever CFM you want, I think each head puts out about 2CFM, so mine runs a bit over 6CFM. That’s plenty for clamps and nailers, not good enough for air tools and most likely spraying, which I do very little of.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Anthony Quesada <tonymiga2@...> wrote:

Brian, I couldn’t agree more. ?When my dads' 40 gallon kicks on it seems like I have never heard the noise before. ?It startles me every time!?




On Jan 26, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

If that’s all the sand blasting you intend to do, then definitely look at no more than a 5hp unit. As for the smaller unit, look for quiet…. period. The most irritating noise in the shop is the compressor... and they start when you least expect.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Jan 26, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Anthony Quesada <tonymiga2@...> wrote:

Great comments and questions!

If previous experience is any indication, the blast cabinet will be used sporadically and extremely lightly by commercial standards, as I am a hobbyist that loves both metal and wood. ?I can see the cabinet getting used 15 minutes here and 20 minutes there with weeks in between without use. ? I am very, very much a beginner machinist/metal worker, but hope to develop the skills over time. ?

Love Brian's idea of getting a more "modest" 5HP compressor and being patient if the blast cabinet can't keep up. ?

Regarding the small compressor down line of the larger one.... I never would have thought of this, but thankfully it was mentioned here. ?Since most of my use can be served by a little pancake type compressor, I would view this as taking the nimble and quick scooter out to get a carton of milk from the corner store vs a large pickup truck with trailer behind. ? ?Both get the job done, but one is quieter, more efficient and quicker for the specific task.

Anthony?






Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

 

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Brian, I couldn’t agree more. ?When my dads' 40 gallon kicks on it seems like I have never heard the noise before. ?It startles me every time!?




On Jan 26, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

If that’s all the sand blasting you intend to do, then definitely look at no more than a 5hp unit. As for the smaller unit, look for quiet…. period. The most irritating noise in the shop is the compressor... and they start when you least expect.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Jan 26, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Anthony Quesada <tonymiga2@...> wrote:

Great comments and questions!

If previous experience is any indication, the blast cabinet will be used sporadically and extremely lightly by commercial standards, as I am a hobbyist that loves both metal and wood. ?I can see the cabinet getting used 15 minutes here and 20 minutes there with weeks in between without use. ? I am very, very much a beginner machinist/metal worker, but hope to develop the skills over time. ?

Love Brian's idea of getting a more "modest" 5HP compressor and being patient if the blast cabinet can't keep up. ?

Regarding the small compressor down line of the larger one.... I never would have thought of this, but thankfully it was mentioned here. ?Since most of my use can be served by a little pancake type compressor, I would view this as taking the nimble and quick scooter out to get a carton of milk from the corner store vs a large pickup truck with trailer behind. ? ?Both get the job done, but one is quieter, more efficient and quicker for the specific task.

Anthony?





Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

 

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If that’s all the sand blasting you intend to do, then definitely look at no more than a 5hp unit. As for the smaller unit, look for quiet…. period. The most irritating noise in the shop is the compressor... and they start when you least expect.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 26, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Anthony Quesada <tonymiga2@...> wrote:

Great comments and questions!

If previous experience is any indication, the blast cabinet will be used sporadically and extremely lightly by commercial standards, as I am a hobbyist that loves both metal and wood. ?I can see the cabinet getting used 15 minutes here and 20 minutes there with weeks in between without use. ? I am very, very much a beginner machinist/metal worker, but hope to develop the skills over time. ?

Love Brian's idea of getting a more "modest" 5HP compressor and being patient if the blast cabinet can't keep up. ?

Regarding the small compressor down line of the larger one.... I never would have thought of this, but thankfully it was mentioned here. ?Since most of my use can be served by a little pancake type compressor, I would view this as taking the nimble and quick scooter out to get a carton of milk from the corner store vs a large pickup truck with trailer behind. ? ?Both get the job done, but one is quieter, more efficient and quicker for the specific task.

Anthony?




Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

 

Joe,

Fantastic info. This is a very understandable explanation of CFM. Thank you for taking the time to explain!

Anthony


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Seems that way, I run the small compressor at a slightly higher pressure than the “regulated” line pressure coming out of the big compressor. This way it seems the large compressor only feeds air to the lines when the smaller one can’t keep up.?

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 26, 2021, at 9:06 AM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:

Brian,
? Does the regulator serve as a one way valve and keep the smaller compressor from running for an extended period of time to fill up the tank on the large compressor?
Thanks,
Dave

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 9:57 AM Brian Lamb <bklamb1@...> wrote:
Right now I just plug in my small compressor to the airlines in the shop, past the tank and regulator for the big unit. I'm in the process of cleaning up the shop and organizing, so who knows what I will eventually do.

=============== Brian Lamb blamb11@... Phoenix, AZ ===============


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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [FOG] Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
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Brian,

I forgot if you posted details before but reading the thread i have similar thoughts as Johnathon. Primary question is do you or anyone reading fill up the large tank with little compressor or just use one at a time?

I can see the benefit of having both plumbed in and concerns with surge current of a large compressor.

Imran

On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?Advantages are mostly noise and to a slight advantage in electricity costs. I use a Sil-Air 150-3 compressor, which is almost silent, then if my air requirement is more than it can supply, the 5hp unit kicks in. The little unit runs on minimal amps and has no huge start up surge of amps. Same thing can’t be said for every time the 5hp IR unit kicks in… like 30 amp inrush. So depending upon how you pay for your electricity, you can save quite a bit. A word of warning, compressed air is very expensive...

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Jan 26, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote:

I read all through this and still don't understand what the advantage is to adding a small compressor. A pancake wont add significant capacity.? Cycling a 5 or 10-hp motor at intervals isn't a big deal.? Besides all that, the 2 compressors would turn on and off at different pressures so one would always shut off last (unless they shared the same switch).? I assume the small unit would be set higher but why?? Would there be a check valve on the large compressor reservoir to save the small from charging it?? Or am I wrong to assume 2 reservoirs?? What am I missing?


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Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

 

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Anthony, there are compressor brands and even levels within the brands.? As an engineer I have a problem in that I always need to learn a ton about a topic before I make the plunge.? On air compressors;

  1. The tank size is not super critical.? A 60 gallon tank is about 8 cubic feet of air. ?An 80 gallon tank is 10.7 cubic feet.? If the tank is pressurized to say 175 psi and your regulator is at 100 psi, you will get a bit more air more air out of a tank but not a game changing amount.?
  2. I have a Quincy that’s 40 years old with a model 325 pump.? This is the QR series today.? The pump has an oil pump for pressure lubrication.? I bought the compressor used from a dental office.? I was planning to rebuild it and went to the local Quincy dealer to inquire about parts.? They said to test before I did anything.? I did buy new pressure relief valves for safety.? The test was to drain the tank to empty and then start the compressor. ?Time how long it takes to fill the tank and note the pressure. ??Then do the math to see how many CFM the compressor makes in one minute.? Say you want to know how many cfm the compressor will make at 100 psi.? Set the pressure switch to 100 psi, fill the tank until it shuts off.? Say that was 30 seconds.? Then do the math and you would get in my case a 60 gallon tank is 8 cu ft.? If it fills in 30 seconds and shuts off at 100 psi then the compressor makes 16 cu ft per minute at 100 psi.? If you increase the PSI then it will take longer to fill and maybe like 12 cu ft per min at 175 psi.? In my case the pump still makes rated output at 100 and 175 psi so no rebuild needed.? This is an easy test if looking at a used one.

?

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Subject: Re: [FOG] Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

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Great comments and questions!

If previous experience is any indication, the blast cabinet will be used sporadically and extremely lightly by commercial standards, as I am a hobbyist that loves both metal and wood. ?I can see the cabinet getting used 15 minutes here and 20 minutes there with weeks in between without use. ? I am very, very much a beginner machinist/metal worker, but hope to develop the skills over time. ?

Love Brian's idea of getting a more "modest" 5HP compressor and being patient if the blast cabinet can't keep up. ?

Regarding the small compressor down line of the larger one.... I never would have thought of this, but thankfully it was mentioned here. ?Since most of my use can be served by a little pancake type compressor, I would view this as taking the nimble and quick scooter out to get a carton of milk from the corner store vs a large pickup truck with trailer behind. ? ?Both get the job done, but one is quieter, more efficient and quicker for the specific task.

Anthony?


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Bill,

I did not know auto position had something to do with auto clean as well. Do I understand correctly that in this position you can autostart/stop with a relay?

Imran

On Jan 26, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Bill James via groups.io <xxrb2010@...> wrote:

?On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:39 PM, Mike Bemis wrote:
(Does this jumping pins 7 & 8 cause issues with the motors getting up to speed?)

The RL models that offer this automated position are build to have the RL start and stop automatically for the auto clean feature as far as I understand. So, you do not have any issue jumping pins 7 & 8.?


Re: RL 160 remote start challenge #diy #dustcollection

 

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:39 PM, Mike Bemis wrote:
(Does this jumping pins 7 & 8 cause issues with the motors getting up to speed?)

The RL models that offer this automated position are build to have the RL start and stop automatically for the auto clean feature as far as I understand. So, you do not have any issue jumping pins 7 & 8.?


Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

 

Great comments and questions!

If previous experience is any indication, the blast cabinet will be used sporadically and extremely lightly by commercial standards, as I am a hobbyist that loves both metal and wood. ?I can see the cabinet getting used 15 minutes here and 20 minutes there with weeks in between without use. ? I am very, very much a beginner machinist/metal worker, but hope to develop the skills over time. ?

Love Brian's idea of getting a more "modest" 5HP compressor and being patient if the blast cabinet can't keep up. ?

Regarding the small compressor down line of the larger one.... I never would have thought of this, but thankfully it was mentioned here. ?Since most of my use can be served by a little pancake type compressor, I would view this as taking the nimble and quick scooter out to get a carton of milk from the corner store vs a large pickup truck with trailer behind. ? ?Both get the job done, but one is quieter, more efficient and quicker for the specific task.

Anthony?



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David,

When I looked into that I found both kinds exist. I am not sure if they are designed to be one way or it is just an inherent feature of the regulator.

Imran

On Jan 26, 2021, at 11:07 AM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:

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Brian,
? Does the regulator serve as a one way valve and keep the smaller compressor from running for an extended period of time to fill up the tank on the large compressor?
Thanks,
Dave

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 9:57 AM Brian Lamb <bklamb1@...> wrote:
Right now I just plug in my small compressor to the airlines in the shop, past the tank and regulator for the big unit. I'm in the process of cleaning up the shop and organizing, so who knows what I will eventually do.

=============== Brian Lamb blamb11@... Phoenix, AZ ===============


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:53 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
?
Brian,

I forgot if you posted details before but reading the thread i have similar thoughts as Johnathon. Primary question is do you or anyone reading fill up the large tank with little compressor or just use one at a time?

I can see the benefit of having both plumbed in and concerns with surge current of a large compressor.

Imran

On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?Advantages are mostly noise and to a slight advantage in electricity costs. I use a Sil-Air 150-3 compressor, which is almost silent, then if my air requirement is more than it can supply, the 5hp unit kicks in. The little unit runs on minimal amps and has no huge start up surge of amps. Same thing can’t be said for every time the 5hp IR unit kicks in… like 30 amp inrush. So depending upon how you pay for your electricity, you can save quite a bit. A word of warning, compressed air is very expensive...

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Jan 26, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote:

I read all through this and still don't understand what the advantage is to adding a small compressor. A pancake wont add significant capacity.? Cycling a 5 or 10-hp motor at intervals isn't a big deal.? Besides all that, the 2 compressors would turn on and off at different pressures so one would always shut off last (unless they shared the same switch).? I assume the small unit would be set higher but why?? Would there be a check valve on the large compressor reservoir to save the small from charging it?? Or am I wrong to assume 2 reservoirs?? What am I missing?


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Brian Lamb
blamb11@...?
?



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318-219-7868


Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

 

Brian,
? Does the regulator serve as a one way valve and keep the smaller compressor from running for an extended period of time to fill up the tank on the large compressor?
Thanks,
Dave

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 9:57 AM Brian Lamb <bklamb1@...> wrote:
Right now I just plug in my small compressor to the airlines in the shop, past the tank and regulator for the big unit. I'm in the process of cleaning up the shop and organizing, so who knows what I will eventually do.

=============== Brian Lamb blamb11@... Phoenix, AZ ===============


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:53 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
?
Brian,

I forgot if you posted details before but reading the thread i have similar thoughts as Johnathon. Primary question is do you or anyone reading fill up the large tank with little compressor or just use one at a time?

I can see the benefit of having both plumbed in and concerns with surge current of a large compressor.

Imran

On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?Advantages are mostly noise and to a slight advantage in electricity costs. I use a Sil-Air 150-3 compressor, which is almost silent, then if my air requirement is more than it can supply, the 5hp unit kicks in. The little unit runs on minimal amps and has no huge start up surge of amps. Same thing can’t be said for every time the 5hp IR unit kicks in… like 30 amp inrush. So depending upon how you pay for your electricity, you can save quite a bit. A word of warning, compressed air is very expensive...

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Jan 26, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote:

I read all through this and still don't understand what the advantage is to adding a small compressor. A pancake wont add significant capacity.? Cycling a 5 or 10-hp motor at intervals isn't a big deal.? Besides all that, the 2 compressors would turn on and off at different pressures so one would always shut off last (unless they shared the same switch).? I assume the small unit would be set higher but why?? Would there be a check valve on the large compressor reservoir to save the small from charging it?? Or am I wrong to assume 2 reservoirs?? What am I missing?


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Brian Lamb
blamb11@...?
?



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Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

 

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Thanks Brian.

On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:57 AM, Brian Lamb <bklamb1@...> wrote:

?
Right now I just plug in my small compressor to the airlines in the shop, past the tank and regulator for the big unit. I'm in the process of cleaning up the shop and organizing, so who knows what I will eventually do.

=============== Brian Lamb blamb11@... Phoenix, AZ ===============


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:53 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
?
Brian,

I forgot if you posted details before but reading the thread i have similar thoughts as Johnathon. Primary question is do you or anyone reading fill up the large tank with little compressor or just use one at a time?

I can see the benefit of having both plumbed in and concerns with surge current of a large compressor.

Imran

On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?Advantages are mostly noise and to a slight advantage in electricity costs. I use a Sil-Air 150-3 compressor, which is almost silent, then if my air requirement is more than it can supply, the 5hp unit kicks in. The little unit runs on minimal amps and has no huge start up surge of amps. Same thing can’t be said for every time the 5hp IR unit kicks in… like 30 amp inrush. So depending upon how you pay for your electricity, you can save quite a bit. A word of warning, compressed air is very expensive...

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 26, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote:

I read all through this and still don't understand what the advantage is to adding a small compressor. A pancake wont add significant capacity.? Cycling a 5 or 10-hp motor at intervals isn't a big deal.? Besides all that, the 2 compressors would turn on and off at different pressures so one would always shut off last (unless they shared the same switch).? I assume the small unit would be set higher but why?? Would there be a check valve on the large compressor reservoir to save the small from charging it?? Or am I wrong to assume 2 reservoirs?? What am I missing?


--
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...?
?


Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

Brian Lamb
 

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Right now I just plug in my small compressor to the airlines in the shop, past the tank and regulator for the big unit. I'm in the process of cleaning up the shop and organizing, so who knows what I will eventually do.

=============== Brian Lamb blamb11@... Phoenix, AZ ===============


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:53 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style
?
Brian,

I forgot if you posted details before but reading the thread i have similar thoughts as Johnathon. Primary question is do you or anyone reading fill up the large tank with little compressor or just use one at a time?

I can see the benefit of having both plumbed in and concerns with surge current of a large compressor.

Imran

On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?Advantages are mostly noise and to a slight advantage in electricity costs. I use a Sil-Air 150-3 compressor, which is almost silent, then if my air requirement is more than it can supply, the 5hp unit kicks in. The little unit runs on minimal amps and has no huge start up surge of amps. Same thing can’t be said for every time the 5hp IR unit kicks in… like 30 amp inrush. So depending upon how you pay for your electricity, you can save quite a bit. A word of warning, compressed air is very expensive...

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 26, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote:

I read all through this and still don't understand what the advantage is to adding a small compressor. A pancake wont add significant capacity.? Cycling a 5 or 10-hp motor at intervals isn't a big deal.? Besides all that, the 2 compressors would turn on and off at different pressures so one would always shut off last (unless they shared the same switch).? I assume the small unit would be set higher but why?? Would there be a check valve on the large compressor reservoir to save the small from charging it?? Or am I wrong to assume 2 reservoirs?? What am I missing?


--
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...?
?


Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

 

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Brian,

I forgot if you posted details before but reading the thread i have similar thoughts as Johnathon. Primary question is do you or anyone reading fill up the large tank with little compressor or just use one at a time?

I can see the benefit of having both plumbed in and concerns with surge current of a large compressor.

Imran

On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

?Advantages are mostly noise and to a slight advantage in electricity costs. I use a Sil-Air 150-3 compressor, which is almost silent, then if my air requirement is more than it can supply, the 5hp unit kicks in. The little unit runs on minimal amps and has no huge start up surge of amps. Same thing can’t be said for every time the 5hp IR unit kicks in… like 30 amp inrush. So depending upon how you pay for your electricity, you can save quite a bit. A word of warning, compressed air is very expensive...

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 26, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote:

I read all through this and still don't understand what the advantage is to adding a small compressor. A pancake wont add significant capacity.? Cycling a 5 or 10-hp motor at intervals isn't a big deal.? Besides all that, the 2 compressors would turn on and off at different pressures so one would always shut off last (unless they shared the same switch).? I assume the small unit would be set higher but why?? Would there be a check valve on the large compressor reservoir to save the small from charging it?? Or am I wrong to assume 2 reservoirs?? What am I missing?


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Stan,

The HS950 is not pushed back per say, they are shipping them together to save shipping cost from Sacramento to me.? I assume that it may wait for a bit...

PK
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Re: X-Roll Festool quick clamp adapter T nuts #diy

 

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I created a hashtag too, #3D_Print, but the chances of folks remembering to add that to the subject are slim to none….

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 26, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Uncle T. via <utplo@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,?
This is creatively elegant yet simple. I'm not in the position to purchase pneumatic clamps at this time, but I do have access to a 3D printer. I would love to give this a try on my K500S with X-Roll. Thanks for offering to send the print file, you can PM to me.?
I like the idea of starting?#3D_Print (newb opinion)
Matt


Re: Air Compressor Big and Small- David Kumm Style

 

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Advantages are mostly noise and to a slight advantage in electricity costs. I use a Sil-Air 150-3 compressor, which is almost silent, then if my air requirement is more than it can supply, the 5hp unit kicks in. The little unit runs on minimal amps and has no huge start up surge of amps. Same thing can’t be said for every time the 5hp IR unit kicks in… like 30 amp inrush. So depending upon how you pay for your electricity, you can save quite a bit. A word of warning, compressed air is very expensive...

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
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On Jan 26, 2021, at 8:18 AM, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote:

I read all through this and still don't understand what the advantage is to adding a small compressor. A pancake wont add significant capacity.? Cycling a 5 or 10-hp motor at intervals isn't a big deal.? Besides all that, the 2 compressors would turn on and off at different pressures so one would always shut off last (unless they shared the same switch).? I assume the small unit would be set higher but why?? Would there be a check valve on the large compressor reservoir to save the small from charging it?? Or am I wrong to assume 2 reservoirs?? What am I missing?