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Re: Thoughts on going from K500 P to K700 S

 

I was thinking about the same to get DRO and longer slider, but my current thinking is skipping the K700 and go directly to K940 with a phase converter. I am a woodworking hobbyist too.

Bill


Re: I found the Altendorf....

 

It sold, but i couldnt tell what year it was. Also, what length was the slider??

I will have to start another thread one day comparing some of the higher end brands of sliders. I know next to nothing about Altendorf models through the years. I started a thread on sawmill creek about vintage Martin models prior to 2000.Its hard to find someone that knows all the specifics on these models through the years. What to look for, how much, etc.?

Patrick

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 12:36 PM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
Facebook Marketplace has the worst search function in the history of the world.? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Brian Lamb <bklamb1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 12:12 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] I found the Altendorf....
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I think it's still for sale... I just had a hard time finding the ad.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of tomruth@... <tomruth@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:07 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] I found the Altendorf....
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Brian,
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?????? Somebody got a real deal on that one.

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Brian Lamb
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Re: Thoughts on going from K500 P to K700 S

 

If I were in your position I will get what I really want and pay someone to commission the new saw .


Thoughts on going from K500 P to K700 S

 

I am a woodworking hobbyist of 35+ yrs, I have a 24¡¯ x 24¡¯ shop I built in my backyard 20 yrs ago. On 8/2019 I purchased new a K500 Pro model with 80¡± slider and added Mac¡¯s super pneumatic clamps. I have been very pleased with the saw except for the lack of ability to rip 8¡¯ sheet goods. Knowing what I know now I am seriously considering buying the K700 S with 9¡¯ slider, Power Drive 2 #201, digital cross stop #171, digital display for rip fence #86, overhead saw guard #86, single phase 4 hp #162 and electrically driven scoring unit #23. Any advice or recommendations, at 63 years old I need to either be happy with what I got or go for what I really want ? Not sure I want to go through the hassle of selling the K500 P and the financial loss and then the whole process of receiving and setting up the new machine, although will seriously consider paying for FELDER to commission the K700 S. Thanks in advance


Re: I found the Altendorf....

 

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Facebook Marketplace has the worst search function in the history of the world.? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Brian Lamb <bklamb1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 12:12 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] I found the Altendorf....
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I think it's still for sale... I just had a hard time finding the ad.

=============== Brian Lamb blamb11@... Phoenix, AZ ===============


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of tomruth@... <tomruth@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:07 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] I found the Altendorf....
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Brian,
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?????? Somebody got a real deal on that one.

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Brian Lamb
blamb11@...?
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Re: Phase Converter Wanted

 

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Cliff,

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I have corrected myself many times here but looks like I have to pay my dues for the bad info I put out. I never said PP had choppy output, I was incorrectly concerned with a higher voltage. A VFD on the other hand, by design, puts a PWMed voltage output. This is where a transistor (IGBT to be specific) is turned on/off (10KHz is common) to conserve power expended. This is the reason that a VFD can be the side of a loaf of bread and weigh nothing compared to the size and weight of PP. It does appear that PP is getting smaller and lighter though. Here is a scope plot of my VFD. Yellow is the voltage and green is the current. As you can see voltage is discontinuous (on/off) and current is continuous. Motor runs fine as long as current is continuous.

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Imran

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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Phase Converter Wanted

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Some one here posted a pdf? where he subjected his phaseperfect to analysis? with an oscilloscope along with a rotary.? The rotary put? out smoother power and? could be adjusted the Phaseperfect? put out choppy dirty power

On 12/15/20 11:14 AM, Jonathan Smith wrote:

I see phase converters for sale come up here occasionally.? Total load (3 separate motors) for my new machine is under 3hp.? Either 208 or 460 v works.? I think I prefer a digital to a rotary for the lower noise and easier mounting.? Are any available out there?


Re: any one know this roofing?

 

Amazing


Re: Phase Converter Wanted

 

Cliff, after a zillion exchanges on FOG and off, the author of the analysis you refer to acknowledged that it was in error.

Jonathan, the smallest digital is:?https://www.phasetechnologies.com/pt007


Re: I found the Altendorf....

Brian Lamb
 

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I think it's still for sale... I just had a hard time finding the ad.

=============== Brian Lamb blamb11@... Phoenix, AZ ===============


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of tomruth@... <tomruth@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 10:07 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] I found the Altendorf....
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Brian,
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?????? Somebody got a real deal on that one.

--
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...?
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Re: I found the Altendorf....

 

Brian,
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?????? Somebody got a real deal on that one.


Re: Phase Converter Wanted

 

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Oh boy, here we go again...

Regards, Mark

On Dec 15, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote:

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Some one here posted a pdf? where he subjected his phaseperfect to analysis? with an oscilloscope along with a rotary.? The rotary put? out smoother power and? could be adjusted the Phaseperfect? put out choppy dirty power

On 12/15/20 11:14 AM, Jonathan Smith wrote:
I see phase converters for sale come up here occasionally.? Total load (3 separate motors) for my new machine is under 3hp.? Either 208 or 460 v works.? I think I prefer a digital to a rotary for the lower noise and easier mounting.? Are any available out there?


Re: Sliding Table Saw Felder K700 S - Minnesota

 

Imran,?

??????? It can be a huge amount of work blowing off the sawdust from a machine for a photo.? First you have to find the air chuck, turn on the compressor, then you might even have to untangle that air hose.:P


Re: Phase Converter Wanted

Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
 

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Some one here posted a pdf? where he subjected his phaseperfect to analysis? with an oscilloscope along with a rotary.? The rotary put? out smoother power and? could be adjusted the Phaseperfect? put out choppy dirty power

On 12/15/20 11:14 AM, Jonathan Smith wrote:

I see phase converters for sale come up here occasionally.? Total load (3 separate motors) for my new machine is under 3hp.? Either 208 or 460 v works.? I think I prefer a digital to a rotary for the lower noise and easier mounting.? Are any available out there?


Re: Sliding Table Saw Felder K700 S - Minnesota

 

I paid $7k for a 2003 k700s. It had very few miles on it, I thought it was only a year or two old when I first looked at it. From what I understand, when the x-roll came out it was quite an improvement over the older slider bearing system. I was looking for a single phase saw, but I bought this one anyway as it was local and I had been looking for a while with no luck.


Phase Converter Wanted

 

I see phase converters for sale come up here occasionally.? Total load (3 separate motors) for my new machine is under 3hp.? Either 208 or 460 v works.? I think I prefer a digital to a rotary for the lower noise and easier mounting.? Are any available out there?


Re: Metal Work Anybody?

 

looks great to me..?Emoji

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 07:59:30 AM PST, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:


This is meant for folks who shy away from basic metal work. For some it may be that they have no interest for others it may be just a hesitation due to the unknown.

I have only tapped may be 3 dozen holes total, in steel and AL. I have cut 1.25¡±x1/2¡° steel bar with hack saw and it actually takes just a little longer than my friends horizontal band saw (nothing fancy). Although, on band saw, I can gang up multiple bars.

I have cut AL with router and carbide bits and while it makes a mess it is not hard.

Here are the slider nuts, while they do not have the awesome look that can be achieved with machining, they are more than fine for intended purpose and look a whole lot better than what felder sent me for the xcut fence. These were shaped with grinder and sanded with RO90 60, 100 & 180 grits. Higher finish is possible, I just did not spend the time.

Also attached is a Big Squeeze housing that I just sanded with a block of wood (cannot find my sanding block) in straight line motion. I took it to 500 grit using Platin.

If you want perfection see attached pdf. Ignore comment of 100 sanding discs as there were bunch of housings.

There are experts here and I am a novice for metal working. Just thought I share if it helps anyone embark on something new.

Imran








Metal Work Anybody?

 

This is meant for folks who shy away from basic metal work. For some it may be that they have no interest for others it may be just a hesitation due to the unknown.

I have only tapped may be 3 dozen holes total, in steel and AL. I have cut 1.25¡±x1/2¡° steel bar with hack saw and it actually takes just a little longer than my friends horizontal band saw (nothing fancy). Although, on band saw, I can gang up multiple bars.

I have cut AL with router and carbide bits and while it makes a mess it is not hard.

Here are the slider nuts, while they do not have the awesome look that can be achieved with machining, they are more than fine for intended purpose and look a whole lot better than what felder sent me for the xcut fence. These were shaped with grinder and sanded with RO90 60, 100 & 180 grits. Higher finish is possible, I just did not spend the time.

Also attached is a Big Squeeze housing that I just sanded with a block of wood (cannot find my sanding block) in straight line motion. I took it to 500 grit using Platin.

If you want perfection see attached pdf. Ignore comment of 100 sanding discs as there were bunch of housings.

There are experts here and I am a novice for metal working. Just thought I share if it helps anyone embark on something new.

Imran


Re: Bandsaw tires FB510

 

So the tires showed up today. Quick trip from Austria. I looked at the video showing the ratchet. interesting idea but I do not think that will work for me. according to Felder I am supposed to spread a thin layer of? adhesive onto the tire and wheel then install the tire. I did not think that would work with contact adhesive. So i researched the 3M adhesive and you can use it in a "wet bond" application. essentially you don't let it completely dry like a standard contact adhesive.?
? ? So working quickly I spread the adhesive and while still slightly wet installed the tires. It was a bit challenging but I was still able to adjust positioning of the tire before it was dry. Only time will tell if this solution solves the problem.

Mark


Re: Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?

 

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Great solution ¨C interested to know if it works.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Randy Child via groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?

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I have been watching this thread very closely since it was started and all the ideas have been awesome, but the one with the laser mounted on the magnetic base on the blade cover housing really gave me an idea.

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I have one of those laser adapters that you attach to the bottom of your laser for fine tuning the line out on a jobsite and thought, hmm.. magnetic base... laser adapter? "Emoji" it just might work... I removed the base off the adapter and screwed the magnetic base onto the underside and can attach the laser to the threaded stud on the adapter.? What's nice is you can seriously fine tune the laser line to shine exactly where you need it for the adjustments on the adapter allow for precise movement in every direction.? I can take more pictures and post after I get it all hooked up and plugged in.

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Here is the adapter and the base magnetic which are both on amazon?

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Fingers crossed that it will work perfectly..

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On Saturday, December 12, 2020, 04:49:43 PM PST, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Thanks for the update.

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Imran


On Dec 12, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Happy holidays - I finally received my Chinese made laser from eBay.? I mounted it on a magnet and hung it on my overhead arm.? At 8 feet, the line is significantly dimmer although I can still see it which is probably good enough for aligning the tail end of a board. ?I have a bright 3 car garage with 11 LED light panels.? The laser mount is difficult to adjust. I found it easier to lock the mount and just rotate the magnet. ???

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 1:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?

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Chris,

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would you please share your experience with the green laser. i would like to know if you can see it easily in well lit shop.

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imran


On Nov 22, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Thanks ¨C I¡¯m going to give it spin¡­ worse case its $50 on a proof of concept.

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Chris Perren

512-415-6951

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Lamb
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?

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In the ad it says1-2mm wide at 1m, and 2-3mm wide at 3m. So I¡¯m guessing about 2mm, and given your blade is about 3mm, that should be fine enough.


Brian Lamb
blamb11@...



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On Nov 22, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Will this laser produce a crisp line if mounted from a 10 ft ceiling? ? A difference of 6 feet from the saw.?

Thanks,

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Chris Perren

512-415-6951



On Nov 22, 2020, at 11:55 AM, ahazi <ariel.hazi@...> wrote:

?No need to do much hacking:

It includes power supply and a mount.

Ariel

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Re: any one know this roofing?

 

Looked like a gingerbread house with chocolate frosting.
UK preppers...

Bill B¨¦langer


On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 4:33 PM Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:
That is just piles and piles of cash.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406