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Re: anyone interested in slider nuts
开云体育Mac, one i have from felder for KF700 xcut fence (one that floats in slot, not the fixed one) is flat and not t-nut.? it measured 30x10mm i did not measure the length. no chamfers. BTW, what is the benefit of a T-Nut? i have only shipped ~150 in 1.25”x0.5” with no complaints. i just carried fwd the stock established by the original big squeeze. many ways to skin a cat ? Imran On Nov 28, 2020, at 7:23 PM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
?Martin on right Felder on left <image.jpg> Mac,,, martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 28, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression via groups.io <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
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Re: anyone interested in slider nuts
开云体育Martin on right Felder on leftMac,,, martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 28, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression via groups.io <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
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Re: anyone interested in slider nuts
开云体育I have made over1000 nuts but never made one 1.25 in width all Felder are 30 mm shouldered at around 20 mm for t slot table width. 303 stainless steel?10 mm x 1.5 thread ,, beveled on 22 edges than cleaned and polished 100 mm in length usually . Mac,, martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 28, 2020, at 5:07 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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Re: anyone interested in slider nuts
开云体育i got a question on tolerance for the nut. i had not looked this up before but i found general info for CR1018 in the size i plan to use and tolerance is +0/-0.004. i will verify with supplier on monday and share if it is different. i also measured the one nut that i built earlier this yr. it meets the tolerance given above. this is a ~4” long nut. above is xroll. the bottom edges will be chamfered for pre-xroll. imran? On Nov 26, 2020, at 9:29 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?Cliff, after posting i realized that i should have added some details. figured, i will wait to see if there is any interest to start with. but since you brought it up, here it goes: made out of CR1018 0.5” x 1.25” flat bar stock. you need to let me know if your machine is xroll or pre-xroll. i cannot guarantee compatibility with non-felder machines. nut length is 2” but you can specify any length at $1/in for nuts over 2” in length. if shipping is affected i will let you know. one tapped hole of your choice in the middle of the nut from std offerings up to M8 or 5/16” and associated coarse thread. i will entertain your need outside what i have listed above as long as i have the tap, just let me know what you need. imran On Nov 26, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote: ?tell whether they can select their preference for the thread in the tapped hole. ?mm ?imperial, ?& what size, that sort of thing On 11/26/20 12:17 PM, imranindiana via groups.io wrote: well i need to make a few for myself and thought i check if anyone is interested. this is basic cold rolled steel 1018. pre xroll slider need two edges chamfered. i am thinking 1 for $25, 2 for $40 and 3 for $50 shipped to lower 48. please select reply to sender below if you are interested. imran |
Re: Milling tongue and groove panelling plus using power feeder on jointer
Murray,
? ? ? ? ? ? For hobbyists like us it is always better to ask the experts, but honestly, you are almost over thinking this. Joint it, resaw if required, plane it, buy a straight forward T&G cutter set, try a couple of test pieces and you are good to go. Remember to adjust the out feed side of the shaper fence when you re setting up. to allow for the stock narrowing once you pass the cutter head, after that set your autofeed, maybe again on a dry run, to check everything is parallel, and you will get a lot of satisfaction in producing you own stock. Good luck. Trevor Lusty |
Re: Milling tongue and groove panelling plus using power feeder on jointer
开云体育I use talc powder like the baseball players use on there bats, I don’t put my hands over the cutter head.martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 28, 2020, at 11:53 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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Re: Excellent Free Resource
开云体育Nice tool boxes it is some interesting wood. Not common in the Midwest, mine was FREE?Salvaged from Deck. I made a number of Isheco drums , tapered cylinders.? With it . martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 28, 2020, at 12:00 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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Re: Excellent Free Resource
开云体育Cliff, i assume you are joking to get some free timber. but if not, i started the thread to share a free downloadable wood handbook put out by USDA. if interested, go to the first post for a link. imran On Nov 28, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote:
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is the timber species Jarrah? the excellent free resource
mentioned in the subject line? On 11/28/20 9:56 AM, Colin surname via
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Re: Milling tongue and groove panelling plus using power feeder on jointer
开云体育jonathan, good point on adjustable groover option. i now have two sets to cover range from 4-20ish mm but have not used them for T&G. on paddles, i had orange ones that i gave away with my jointer. i bought foam grout trowl from the big box store and i find they stick a lot better to the stock. imran? On Nov 28, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote:
?I have made small runs of t&g on a table saw.? It takes several quick set-ups. I made about 2000' of cope and bead for a 16' cedar strip boat.? It only took 3 set-ups but they were elaborate so as to reduce run time and handling and increase accuracy.? It's a time balance calculation. I recommend those foam faced paddles for pushing wood thru the jointer.? You hands stay close to the wood so you can feel what is going on and if there is a slip, your pinkies are protected.???That tingle you get on the back of your scalp as your hands travel fractions of an inch over the spinning cutter is a good thing.? Embrace the scariness.? Don't get used to it. For molder cutters you might consider the adjustable cutter set from Felder or Rangate.?? They will take a bit more set-up than a dedicated set but can be used for other grooving or rebate operations.? I have a 200mm set and they leave a nice finish.?? I suppose a power feeder might be useful running material across a molder or pressure shoes, or even better, good old fashioned, home made, dedicated purpose feather boards work really well.? They are fussy to set pressure with and clamps poke out everywhere but are consistently accurate, guard your pinkies and material does not move unless you push it.? All that said, I have a never-used power feeder for sale.? (Be advised, some people on this forum will disagree vehemently with my opinion that power feeders are optional.? But so it goes.) |
Re: Excellent Free Resource
Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
开云体育is the timber species Jarrah? the excellent free resource
mentioned in the subject line? On 11/28/20 9:56 AM, Colin surname via
groups.io wrote:
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Re: Milling tongue and groove panelling plus using power feeder on jointer
I have made small runs of t&g on a table saw.? It takes several quick set-ups. I made about 2000' of cope and bead for a 16' cedar strip boat.? It only took 3 set-ups but they were elaborate so as to reduce run time and handling and increase accuracy.? It's a time balance calculation.
I recommend those foam faced paddles for pushing wood thru the jointer.? You hands stay close to the wood so you can feel what is going on and if there is a slip, your pinkies are protected.???That tingle you get on the back of your scalp as your hands travel fractions of an inch over the spinning cutter is a good thing.? Embrace the scariness.? Don't get used to it. For molder cutters you might consider the adjustable cutter set from Felder or Rangate.?? They will take a bit more set-up than a dedicated set but can be used for other grooving or rebate operations.? I have a 200mm set and they leave a nice finish.?? I suppose a power feeder might be useful running material across a molder or pressure shoes, or even better, good old fashioned, home made, dedicated purpose feather boards work really well.? They are fussy to set pressure with and clamps poke out everywhere but are consistently accurate, guard your pinkies and material does not move unless you push it.? All that said, I have a never-used power feeder for sale.? (Be advised, some people on this forum will disagree vehemently with my opinion that power feeders are optional.? But so it goes.) |
Re: Milling tongue and groove panelling plus using power feeder on jointer
开云体育Hi,Forget the power feed on the planner, just not the way to go and defeats the ability to flatten/square. Planner table set up is usually the reason that you get poor results, assuming your blades are sharp! Power feed on the spindle moulder is useful though, if you’re processing large amounts or using large cutters. Small work using euro cutters are fine by hand! Make a jig to straighten your first edge on the saw if the boards are very uneven and then process them in the normal way. For the tongue and groove on thin stock, say about the 3/4” size you won’t beat a two part router set like trend make. ?Quick set up and you can process the stock as fast as you like! For security and to prevent kick back use good old fashioned feather boards keeping the stock pressed to the bed and fence, you can make them yourself and they really are remarkable! Martin? On 28 Nov 2020, at 13:39, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
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Re: Excellent Free Resource
开云体育Hi martin, I see you mentioned Jarrah in your post, I love Jarrah-little bit perochical here as this timber is where I am from and I love it. I have posted a couple of photos of a tool box I made with 3 different types of Jarrah- quilted/curly, spotted and straight sawn. Also from this area, South Western Australia is coastal/swamp she oak. I combine this with rose she oak from Queensland which makes a great combination.
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Re: Excellent Free Resource
开云体育sounds like a place i would like to visit. Been in Madison twice 1982 and 2019, guess i can make an early return. imran On Nov 28, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
?Forest products lab is a few miles down the road I live on . Fun place they give tours in usual times. They have 100,000 samples of different species from around the world for identification. In short bring your samples in , figure specific gravity. Important ! Can be just sq inch, find something similar than split off little sliver and compare with microscope.? mahogany or jara are good examples of broad variation weight and coloring and texture. They also do lots of testing and development of major stuff Used today in building and investigate work . Open to the public students from around the world come to study there at the department of agriculture . This might be a broad generalization maybe all funding ?has been squashed as it is science . ? Maybe they study golf know. Mac,,,, martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 28, 2020, at 7:08 AM, Colin surname via groups.io <colt1167@...> wrote:
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Re: Felder slotting cutter
@jonathan, it's fir-tree. The guys who mounted the fence for us this summer told me that these poles are between 80-100 years old. They grow really slow in the shade of larger fir-tree.
@Mark, do you mean the aluminum extrusions? I took what I had at hand. The large profile at the back is a 45x90 mm Bosch Rexroth profile. I think you have something called 8020 in the states. It seems to be called called 8020 regardless of the actual dimensions. I don't know what the numbers stand for. The plates at the bottom are cut-offs from the bed of my CNC router. I cut it off and built a recessed vise for holding small pieces. I have seen similar profiles at Bangood. I'm sure they are easily sourced from a lot of places. And.. if the vise part cought interest, I'll attach an image of this project. |
Re: Excellent Free Resource
开云体育Forest products lab is a few miles down the road I live on . Fun place they give tours in usual times.They have 100,000 samples of different species from around the world for identification. In short bring your samples in , figure specific gravity. Important ! Can be just sq inch, find something similar than split off little sliver and compare with microscope.? mahogany or jara are good examples of broad variation weight and coloring and texture. They also do lots of testing and development of major stuff Used today in building and investigate work . Open to the public students from around the world come to study there at the department of agriculture . This might be a broad generalization maybe all funding ?has been squashed as it is science . ? Maybe they study golf know. Mac,,,, martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 28, 2020, at 7:08 AM, Colin surname via groups.io <colt1167@...> wrote:
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Re: Milling tongue and groove panelling plus using power feeder on jointer
开云体育Not a big deal , should be a fun project .The feeder will be great for profiling on the shaper.? On the jointer for thisw sort of work fine , for fine work ,,,door stile ?and rail , furniture parts a waste of time.? Trim ends ,Straight edge first , than rip , face on jointer if you must and thickness , than profile.? WP 4 is traditional , I made up my own set from random cutters here is a few picks? Wall in basement shower and detail Mac,,, martin/campshure/co/llc Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 27, 2020, at 11:53 PM, dennisnmnyamamoto via groups.io <dennisnmnyamamoto@...> wrote:
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