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Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press

 

OMG, what does the Moore weigh? Would win the vibration damping contest for certain!


On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 4:57 PM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
For an off the wall choice, here is my Moore #2.? Won't do milling but will do boring, drilling and tapping with fast changeover.? Two ranges of speed from 0-2400 rpm.? Accuracy on the X and Y is in tenths which is better than the operator.? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 6:47 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press
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That has been out for awhile, there is a gearhead version I just recently saw that seems to be new.?

Anyways we have the 2820 in the R&D lab that I work in, it¡¯s ok but the variable speed switch went bad within the first couple months (which they replaced promptly, i was impressed with the service) and had terrible runout, I replaced the chuck with like a $500 one that we had in our tool crib and it has minimal run out now so I am assuming it was the original chuck, haven¡¯t have any issues since then but we don¡¯t use it a lot and most of the drilling is around 1/4¡± in steel and aluminum.

Regards, Mark



On Nov 4, 2020, at 6:24 PM, G. Lane <lane247@...> wrote:

?Any thoughts on this drill press would be appreciated.? I'm in the market for a drill press and this one is appealing to me but appears to be brand? new model , so not much info on it yet. ?? Thanks


Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press

 

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For an off the wall choice, here is my Moore #2.? Won't do milling but will do boring, drilling and tapping with fast changeover.? Two ranges of speed from 0-2400 rpm.? Accuracy on the X and Y is in tenths which is better than the operator.? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 6:47 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press
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That has been out for awhile, there is a gearhead version I just recently saw that seems to be new.?

Anyways we have the 2820 in the R&D lab that I work in, it¡¯s ok but the variable speed switch went bad within the first couple months (which they replaced promptly, i was impressed with the service) and had terrible runout, I replaced the chuck with like a $500 one that we had in our tool crib and it has minimal run out now so I am assuming it was the original chuck, haven¡¯t have any issues since then but we don¡¯t use it a lot and most of the drilling is around 1/4¡± in steel and aluminum.

Regards, Mark



On Nov 4, 2020, at 6:24 PM, G. Lane <lane247@...> wrote:

?Any thoughts on this drill press would be appreciated.? I'm in the market for a drill press and this one is appealing to me but appears to be brand? new model , so not much info on it yet. ?? Thanks


Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press

 

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Whoops, the 2820 is the new one i saw - duh, well now you have my thoughts on the 2800

Regards, Mark



Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press

 

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If I wanted a new dedicated drill press, I would buy an Ellis. ?Great quality products from a family owned business. ??

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David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/





On Nov 4, 2020, at 3:24 PM, G. Lane <lane247@...> wrote:

Any thoughts on this drill press would be appreciated.? I'm in the market for a drill press and this one is appealing to me but appears to be brand? new model , so not much info on it yet. ?? Thanks


Re: Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press

 

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That has been out for awhile, there is a gearhead version I just recently saw that seems to be new.?

Anyways we have the 2820 in the R&D lab that I work in, it¡¯s ok but the variable speed switch went bad within the first couple months (which they replaced promptly, i was impressed with the service) and had terrible runout, I replaced the chuck with like a $500 one that we had in our tool crib and it has minimal run out now so I am assuming it was the original chuck, haven¡¯t have any issues since then but we don¡¯t use it a lot and most of the drilling is around 1/4¡± in steel and aluminum.

Regards, Mark



On Nov 4, 2020, at 6:24 PM, G. Lane <lane247@...> wrote:

?Any thoughts on this drill press would be appreciated.? I'm in the market for a drill press and this one is appealing to me but appears to be brand? new model , so not much info on it yet. ?? Thanks


Powermatic 2820 EVS drill press

 

Any thoughts on this drill press would be appreciated.? I'm in the market for a drill press and this one is appealing to me but appears to be brand? new model , so not much info on it yet. ?? Thanks


Replacement filters for RL Dust extractors #dustcollection #whysoexpensive

 

Hey all - So I've had my RL 200 for going on 7 years, and finally need to replace the filters. As expected at $666 USD each (x2 in the RL200), the filters cost significantly more than many stand alone dust collectors.?
Has anyone here had any luck finding an aftermarket filter for their RL's?

Thanks in advance
Matthew


Re: Felder g330 edgebander

 

We use to handle that two different ways.
A) leave your board tall...cut only to width of drawer fronts. Band two sides...then slice that into drawers fronts. Edge top and bottom of each.

Or 2)
We would run a ¡°chaser¡± piece held tight to the narrow drawer front but held back from the edge banding and cutters. The chaser helps hold the narrow drawer fronts from shifting.

Hope that makes sense, Ramon

Ramon Valdez


Re: Felder Adjustable Rebate Cutterhead

 

Sorry guys if I caused the confusion.? I see what Felder does.? The part number was changed (from 04.0.160 to 04.1.160), but the cutter's name stays the same, "Adjustable High Performance Rebate Head, 4 drawing cutting, RB-HW."? I searched the archive using the new part number, resulting in this old thread coming up.

It appears the new cutter set does not have locating pins.??

So, 04.0.160 as of 2015 had the locating pins.??
The current set, 04.1.160 (2020), does not have the locating pins.??

Again, sorry for the confusion.

SW


Re: Felder Adjustable Rebate Cutterhead

 

Haha, I didn't notice the first post date. This thread has been around for a while =)


Re: Felder Adjustable Rebate Cutterhead

 

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michael,

i should have said PN inquired by SW. FWIW, the OP post is from 2015.?

imran

On Nov 4, 2020, at 2:26 PM, michael@... wrote:

?04.0.160 was the PN first mentioned in this thread.
04.1.160 was not mentioned until Shinta asked for it.
04.1.160 is the one I have, hence my answer to Shinta and not the OP.


Re: Felder Adjustable Rebate Cutterhead

 

04.0.160 was the PN first mentioned in this thread.
04.1.160 was not mentioned until Shinta asked for it.
04.1.160 is the one I have, hence my answer to Shinta and not the OP.


Re: Felder Adjustable Rebate Cutterhead

 

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the PN mentioned is 04.1.160 and it is available on USA felder eshop.


imran?

On Nov 4, 2020, at 1:41 PM, michael@... wrote:

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I think this thread was originally about 04.0.160. I cannot find this cutter at the Felder shop. Maybe it's an older model?

Edit: I bought my cutter in October this year. I had trouble finding anyone with the item in stock. The one I found was a former Felder dealer and he found this laying around, so I'm pretty sure my sample is not from 2020.


Re: Felder Adjustable Rebate Cutterhead

 
Edited

I think this thread was originally about 04.0.160. I cannot find this cutter at the Felder shop. Maybe it's an older model?

Edit: I bought my cutter in October this year. I had trouble finding anyone with the item in stock. The one I found was a former Felder dealer and he found this laying around, so I'm pretty sure my sample is not from 2020.


Re: Felder Adjustable Rebate Cutterhead

 

Michael, thank you for the information and link.

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Reading through the thread again, I am confused.? David's post indicates part 04.1.160 to have locating pins that need to be shimmed with spacers with correctly drilled holes that cover the pins.? Gary's post indicates the same thing.? Felder recommended to Gary to remove the pins for cutting tenon.? Their posts dated 2015.? Which year is your cutter set?? Is it possible that Felder updated the cutter design and eliminated the locating pins for the current 04.1.160 (year 2020)??

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Nice and crisp looking miter tenons!? I've been cutting them on the slider using a modified Delta tenoning jig (the one for cabinet saw).? Mine doesn't look as crisp though.?

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Regards,

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SW


Felder g330 edgebander

 

Trying to find out what everyone does about banding the sides of a 6¡± drawer front since it¡¯s under the machines minimum?


Re: Felder Adjustable Rebate Cutterhead

 

On 4-11-2020 17:04, Shinta Wakahisa via groups.io wrote:
Gary or anyone,

I am looking at the Felder?04.1.160 rebate cutter and wonder about how to separate the cutters apart for tenon cutting.
In the Dutch web shop there is an illustration how to separate it (opposing sides towards each other for tenoning as compared to rebate cutting):



The (Dutch) description states it comes with spacer rings to adjust for 28 to 55 mm range.

Naturally, there are answers on FOG.? I can only find part 04.3.036 (page 446 of the PDF 2020 catalog) in Felder's 2020 catalog as the only shim set available in the shaper tooling section.? It is listed in the slot cutter section of the catalog.? Is part 04.3.036 compatible with part 04.1.160?
I don't see why not, it just seems to be another set of spacers, only reason it won't fit might be the outer diameter of the spacers being larger than provided spaceers, which would reduce the length of your tenons. For the rebate configuration the spacers are in the set AFAICT.


Regards,


Jonathan


Re: Felder Adjustable Rebate Cutterhead

 

Shinta, 04.1.160 does not have locating pins, so you won't need shims with hole pattern. Use any standard 30 mm shim. I don't know where you are located, here is an example at Axminster:


The ones from Felder will work as well, but I don't think they are available in bigger sizes. The Omas ones from Axminster are nice since they have the size imprinted on them.

Here is 04.1.160 in action:


Re: Felder Adjustable Rebate Cutterhead

 

Gary or anyone,

I am looking at the Felder?04.1.160 rebate cutter and wonder about how to separate the cutters apart for tenon cutting.? Naturally, there are answers on FOG.? I can only find part 04.3.036 (page 446 of the PDF 2020 catalog) in Felder's 2020 catalog as the only shim set available in the shaper tooling section.? It is listed in the slot cutter section of the catalog.? Is part 04.3.036 compatible with part 04.1.160?? Gary, if you are still around, did you refer to part 04.1.160 in your last post above???

Thanks,

SW


Re: Felder F38 feeder repair

 

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They probably got something jammed between two of the wheels at some point and cracked the sprockets. Could have been defective sprockets to begin with¡­ hard to say if they are machined from solid steel or sintered from powdered metal without looking at one. Regardless, this isn¡¯t something I¡¯ve ever heard of in all the years, so I doubt it¡¯s a frequent occurrence.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Nov 3, 2020, at 10:08 PM, dyclist@... wrote:

After thinking about Brian's response about the circlips, I unscrewed all of the springs.? With the springs unscrewed and after removing one of the speed change gears from the opposite side, I was able to remove the whole transmission.? Now it will be straightforward to replace the cracked gears.

I just don't know why two drive gears cracked.? Hopefully there isn't something else that caused this.

Thanks everyone for the information!

? ?Dennis