Bill,
Since FB510 does not meet your expectations, sell it and buy a different brand maybe MiniMax / SCM.
You have Kappa slider, I think you should pair your?Kappa with a better bandsaw :)
James
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:58 PM Bill B¨¦langer < bllblngr@...> wrote: I agree James, it¡¯s just that I really like the bandsaw and this one is not performing. I¡¯m hoping that it¡¯s just me that can not fine tune this machine.? At least, I do not know. IMO, the bandsaw is not really a precision machine,
James Is there not a way to adjust the parallelism of the post?? Regards, Mark ? I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James? But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark ? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Bill,
I would put the saw on a solid base or even put it on a couple of 2 x 4¡¯s for testing. ?During my testing, motor ran smooth by itself, and with belt on and lower wheel spinning. ? It even ran smooth with blade on and no guides touching. ?Do you have a dial indicator to check for run out? ? Have you tried different blades?
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I agree James, it¡¯s just that I really like the bandsaw and this one is not performing. I¡¯m hoping that it¡¯s just me that can not fine tune this machine.?
At least, I do not know. IMO, the bandsaw is not really a precision machine,
James Is there not a way to adjust the parallelism of the post?? Regards, Mark ? I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James? But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark ? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Thanks James. ? Maybe this brings peace of mind for me. ? I know that it is not a precision machine, but this should not be happening. ?The Felder tech was puzzled as well.
Have a great evening,
jay
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Bill, if the wheel stopped at 12 a few times, I doubt the wheel is the main cause.? I don't think a magnet will stay in place when under power and that could wreck your blade if it is thrown off.? Can you feel any dimples on the back of the wheel that would
indicate balancing?? My old ( 1936 ) Oliver had a couple of screws with lead washers on it for balance.? It is a little out now but that is only evident as it starts or slows.? At speed it levels out.? My Yates is totally free of any vibration but that is
newer ( 1938 ).? Dave
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I spun the top wheel 13 times. 10 times it came to rest at 5-6-7 o¡¯clock. 3 times it stopped at 12. How much weight and what type of weight would I use??
Ran the motor alone, minimal vibration, not ?really smooth.?
This saw is sitting on the mobility device. I need to try it on a solid base tomorrow. That should help some.?
Bill Belanger?
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade??
Regards, Mark
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Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote:
After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would
check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Jay,
I will try it and let you know tomorrow.
James
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:33 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: James,
That is the knob that I am talking about and it does move the guide to the side. ? I snug that knob down and adjust the guides accordingly. ? If i go to tight, then it vibrates as shown in the video. ? I¡¯m curious if you tighten the knob if yours would vibrate the same? ??
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At least, I do not know. IMO, the bandsaw is not really a precision machine,
James
Is there not a way to adjust the parallelism of the post?? Regards, Mark ? I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James? But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark ? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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James,
That is the knob that I am talking about and it does move the guide to the side. ? I snug that knob down and adjust the guides accordingly. ? If i go to tight, then it vibrates as shown in the video. ? I¡¯m curious if you tighten the knob if yours would vibrate the same? ??
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Is there not a way to adjust the parallelism of the post?? Regards, Mark
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On Feb 14, 2020, at 11:04 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James? But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark ? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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I have to say the post is not 100% parallel in the whole range. Tightening the knob definitely tilts the steel post slightly.
James?
But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark ? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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K500 blade height adjustment with Felder Dial indicator for system handwheels
I do have this dial indicator for an A31 and find it useful and wonder if it really works on a K500 for the blade height.
Let me explain:
The OEM handwheels for a K500 blade height is not fixed to the arbor as you need to remove it to lock the blade angle adjustment. There is a lot of play when you turn the wheel due to the fact that the wheel is not lock. Thus, I do not see how useful the dial indicator with the ALU wheel can be as long as this play is present.
If anyone has use the dial indicator with the ALU wheel for the blade height adjustment can shim in that would be nice. So far, I use a oneway gauge and dial indicator, but this is laborious overtime as I need to get the apex of the blade tooth for proper measurement. I am looking for a more permanent setup for which you adjust one time and use it many many times.
Thanks,
Bill
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But is the post through the whole range parallel? Regards, Mark
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On Feb 14, 2020, at 10:44 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Well material can be removed or added to balance. I would try a magnet first. I have never done this but the thought came to mind.
Imran On Feb 15, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Bill B¨¦langer <bllblngr@...> wrote:
? I spun the top wheel 13 times. 10 times it came to rest at 5-6-7 o¡¯clock. 3 times it stopped at 12. How much weight and what type of weight would I use??
Ran the motor alone, minimal vibration, not ?really smooth.?
This saw is sitting on the mobility device. I need to try it on a solid base tomorrow. That should help some.?
Bill Belanger? Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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My ¡°top guide¡± was rubbing on the top wheel. I bent it out a little. I would have expected that of a Rikon.?
Bill B
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Mark,
There is not too much room to adjust the ceramic?guide after the knob is overtightened. Yes, the ceramic guide is parallel to the blade.
Slightly tightening the knob does not affect the quality of the cut.
James
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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I spun the top wheel 13 times. 10 times it came to rest at 5-6-7 o¡¯clock. 3 times it stopped at 12. How much weight and what type of weight would I use??
Ran the motor alone, minimal vibration, not ?really smooth.?
This saw is sitting on the mobility device. I need to try it on a solid base tomorrow. That should help some.?
Bill Belanger?
Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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One would hope the technician would know how to adjust the guides¡
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Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark ? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Adjusting the guides after the knob is tightened doesn¡¯t work? Is the guide parallel ?to the blade?? Regards, Mark
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On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Jay,
I am not sure what you mean about the upper guide clamp.
What I found is over-tightening the knob in the picture below pushes the steel guide with the attached ceramic guide to the left, which pushes the blade to the left. So I make sure not to overtighten the knob.?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:03 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: After changing the wheel, bearings, tire, etc... the only thing that improved the vibration was to not tighten the upper guide clamp.? The recorded video posted was with the clamp tight. ? It is far less when you loosen the screw. ? The tech said that he would check for this on the one they had in the shop and later responded that it was the same. ??
The performance is barely acceptable and will live it for the time being.? It is a good thing I have a drum sander.?
I am glad to hear that you do not have the problem, I wish I could figure out the problem. ? The technician and I worked on the bandsaw for 8 hours, no success.
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Re: Radial Drill Press purchase
I stumbled across Mike's site when watching some Sam Blasco videos.
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Dave Davies?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 8:16 PM joelgelman via Groups.Io <joelgelman= [email protected]> wrote: David, thanks for the feedback. I am familiar with that unit.? What I like most about a radial drill press is the fact that the table does not move.? I want to be able to set the height of the table flush with surrounding work surfaces and to better setup my fence and stops.? I like the idea of being able to have more distance from the column as a bonus. ? I believe that the vintage machines are better made than the new ones.?
I hope I like it better than the conventional drill press.? I will find out!
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Bill Belanger
imran