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Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

 

Brian,

Just to clarify, I wasn't griping about Yahoo per se.? ?I was just noting that many Yahoo groups are (once again) feeling the itch to get off Yahoo since the Verizon purchase, and some are finding groups.io to be Yahoo-like -- free and almost no admin time required -- and I was just curious if others had noticed or thought about it recently.? ?

A truly free and painless conversion to a better platform is indeed not super likely.. but maybe the options are actually getting better...

Mark

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There have been several other attempts at creating another Felder group, none of which survived. This all stated back with eGroups in about 1999, and it was purchased/absorbed by Yahoo in maybe 2000 or 2001 if I remember correctly.



Brian Lamb
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www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 9, 2018, at 10:51 AM, jmkserv jmkserv@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:


I think you have us mixed up with a dead forum started by a missing in action Festool Forum member named Sitting Elf/Frank. This group started before the original Festool forum was even in existence. He tried to started a completely new forum that didn't attract anybody with any Felder knowledge.?


John
JMK Services

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From: "pz8w9c@...?[felder-woodworking]" <felder-woodworking@...>
Date: 2018-01-09 12:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

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Hello,? I am new to the Felder Woodworking Group and I came across this conversation.? It is interesting that to find this group originally I was using the Festool Owners Group.? They use a product that is open source called Simple Machine Forum (SMF) to manage their group, just a thought.??


Anyway, I have just purchase a Hammer A3-26 Jointer/Planar unit and waiting the delivery in the near future.? My goal is to use the Felder-Woodworking Owners Group to gather tips and tricks on how the product works and nuances that users have come across the improve on the experience.? I am not new to woodworking as I have been a hobbyist/DIY person for 27 years and appreciate good tools and machinery.? The Felder product line intrigued me because it advertised precision and quality above price.? I value the idea that with better tools, what you create in the woodshop comes out better.? Price is always something tha t each user must balance with quality and precision.? So I will continue to check out the group for help along the way.

Regards,

Chuck? ? ?




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Welcome, and thanks for the info about SMF. I’m not that up on all of this, but free sounds good. Does anyone more techie than I understand if this needs a server or some sort of website to run? I can see the software maybe being free, but do you have to pay for bandwidth, storage space, servers and such?

This whole gripe session about Yahoo comes up a couple times a year, and while I know Yahoo can be a pain in the ass, it has worked in the past and it’s free, and it doesn’t come at a huge time investment for me or John to manage… and yet it has the ability to be moderated so we aren’t full of spam and other BS. Most of the other options I have seen over the years are costly, most start at $100 a month and require huge amounts of time invested to run on a daily basis, hence of zero interest for me.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 9, 2018, at 10:24 AM, pz8w9c@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:

Hello,? I am new to the Felder Woodworking Group and I came across this conversation.? It is interesting that to find this group originally I was using the Festool Owners Group.? They use a product that is open source called Simple Machine Forum (SMF) to manage their group, just a thought.??


Anyway, I have just purchase a Hammer A3-26 Jointer/Planar unit and waiting the delivery in the near future.? My goal is to use the Felder-Woodworking Owners Group to gather tips and tricks on how the product works and nuances that users have come across the improve on the experience.? I am not new to woodworking as I have been a hobbyist/DIY person for 27 years and appreciate good tools and machinery.? The Felder product line intrigued me because it advertised precision and quality above price.? I value the idea that with better tools, what you create in the woodshop comes out better.? Price is always something that ea ch user must balance with quality and precision.? So I will continue to check out the group for help along the way.

Regards,

Chuck? ? ?



Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

 

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I think you have us mixed up with a dead forum started by a missing in action Festool Forum member named Sitting Elf/Frank. This group started before the original Festool forum was even in existence. He tried to started a completely new forum that didn't attract anybody with any Felder knowledge.?


John
JMK Services

-------- Original message --------
From: "pz8w9c@... [felder-woodworking]" <felder-woodworking@...>
Date: 2018-01-09 12:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

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Hello,? I am new to the Felder Woodworking Group and I came across this conversation.? It is interesting that to find this group originally I was using the Festool Owners Group.? They use a product that is open source called Simple Machine Forum (SMF) to manage their group, just a thought.??


Anyway, I have just purchase a Hammer A3-26 Jointer/Planar unit and waiting the delivery in the near future.? My goal is to use the Felder-Woodworking Owners Group to gather tips and tricks on how the product works and nuances that users have come across the improve on the experience.? I am not new to woodworking as I have been a hobbyist/DIY person for 27 years and appreciate good tools and machinery.? The Felder product line intrigued me because it advertised precision and quality above price.? I value the idea that with better tools, what you create in the woodshop comes out better.? Price is always something that each user must balance with quality and precision.? So I will continue to check out the group for help along the way.

Regards,

Chuck? ? ?


Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

 

Hello,? I am new to the Felder Woodworking Group and I came across this conversation.? It is interesting that to find this group originally I was using the Festool Owners Group.? They use a product that is open source called Simple Machine Forum (SMF) to manage their group, just a thought.??

Anyway, I have just purchase a Hammer A3-26 Jointer/Planar unit and waiting the delivery in the near future.? My goal is to use the Felder-Woodworking Owners Group to gather tips and tricks on how the product works and nuances that users have come across the improve on the experience.? I am not new to woodworking as I have been a hobbyist/DIY person for 27 years and appreciate good tools and machinery.? The Felder product line intrigued me because it advertised precision and quality above price.? I value the idea that with better tools, what you create in the woodshop comes out better.? Price is always something that each user must balance with quality and precision.? So I will continue to check out the group for help along the way.

Regards,

Chuck? ? ?


Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

 

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Which Facebook group did you like? I'm not particularly active on the social side of that platform, but have enjoyed the few groups I've joined.?

On Jan 8, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Jason Holtz jholtzy@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:

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I am on a and I find its interface a little clunky. I find the google groups format to much better. Of all the groups I participate in, dare I say the facebook group is the best. Its the easiest to navigate, load photos, and interact with on a regular basis. A bunch of us are already there, may as well form a group. I don't know how one would deal with the archive of files and photos, etc. though.


Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture

3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765


Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

alain pilon
 

As part of my work, I have done -a lot- of data migrations and over 80% of the time, these are useless: the old data is outdated or its value overestimated by the clients. For example, in the case of this forum, I have a hard time giving any value to the archives because in all my Felder/Hammer googling, it never came up in the search results. And lets be frank: if you dont show up in Google results, you dont exist for people who dont know where to look at. Maybe my keywords were too broad but they are still a good sample of what a new comer would use.

That being said, I am not proposing myself to do the switch to Discourse. A move to is a much easier transition, I just wanted to show what is possible. Also, data migration is not mandatory to switch to another forum: the old threads will still exist, nothing is deleted. It is just that new content is created elsewhere and with Google giving importance to content creation date, the new forum home would quickly rise in the search results.



On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:25 AM, murkyd@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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I certainly didn't intend to start a? debate what's the "best" forum software.? As John says, a key issue is the energy to convert and be responsible as new owner (presumably not Renzetti).


I could have been more specific in my first post.?The reason has some popularity for former Yahoo groups is that it has a free version that meets many small forum needs, and it has tools to automate conversion from Yahoo.? ?So it holds the potential to be easy to convert, and a better (not best) forum.

Certainly is not as sexy as , but the latter doesn't meet the criteria of simple and free.

I was curious if the forum owner was thinking about these things, and it seems that's been answered -- the forum owner doesn't visit the forum ;-)

Mark
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Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

 

I certainly didn't intend to start a? debate what's the "best" forum software.? As John says, a key issue is the energy to convert and be responsible as new owner (presumably not Renzetti).

I could have been more specific in my first post.?The reason groups.io has some popularity for former Yahoo groups is that it has a free version that meets many small forum needs, and it has tools to automate conversion from Yahoo.? ?So it holds the potential to be easy to convert, and a better (not best) forum.

Certainly groups.io is not as sexy as discourse.org, but the latter doesn't meet the criteria of simple and free.

I was curious if the forum owner was thinking about these things, and it seems that's been answered -- the forum owner doesn't visit the forum ;-)

Mark
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The question is and always has been who is going to be one to transfer all the information from one forum to another and what does it cost. Currently every thing is on Yahoo and doesn't cost a dime. Many of us that have been on the forum for a fair number of years don't have too many issues getting info. Brian has been great at moderating and taking care of the operations and I haven't heard of anyone else stepping up to give him a hand. If you're up to the task state your proposal.?



John
JMK Services

-------- Original message --------
From: "alain pilon alain.pilon@... [felder-woodworking]" <felder-woodworking@...>
Date: 2018-01-08 10:28 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

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Hi all (first time poster, soon to be Hammer owner c3-31),

I work as a web developer and spend an incredible amount of time each day in forums for job related tasks.

Google and Yahoo groups are at the very bottom of the list. Pretty much anything is better. The problem is that they use the most user friendly of all interfaces: emails. While they make search in archive a pain, yield poor results in google search, make it impossible to post images or format text, it is hard to beat the convenience of emails.

If there is a strong willingness to switch, may I suggest?? Maybe it is a little too advanced for none techies, but this forum software is state of the art in the field of forum management. I have setup a few of these in the past and everyone was happy in the end: it is ridiculously fast, looks gorgeous and make it very easy to link from one post to another, thus making it very easy to use old posts as references.




On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Jason Holtz jholtzy@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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I am on a and I find its interface a little clunky. I find the google groups format to much better. Of all the groups I participate in, dare I say the facebook group is the best. Its the easiest to navigate, load photos, and interact with on a regular basis. A bunch of us are already there, may as well form a group. I don't know how one would deal with the archive of files and photos, etc. though.


Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture



Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

alain pilon
 

Hi all (first time poster, soon to be Hammer owner c3-31),

I work as a web developer and spend an incredible amount of time each day in forums for job related tasks.

Google and Yahoo groups are at the very bottom of the list. Pretty much anything is better. The problem is that they use the most user friendly of all interfaces: emails. While they make search in archive a pain, yield poor results in google search, make it impossible to post images or format text, it is hard to beat the convenience of emails.

If there is a strong willingness to switch, may I suggest?? Maybe it is a little too advanced for none techies, but this forum software is state of the art in the field of forum management. I have setup a few of these in the past and everyone was happy in the end: it is ridiculously fast, looks gorgeous and make it very easy to link from one post to another, thus making it very easy to use old posts as references.




On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Jason Holtz jholtzy@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:

?

I am on a and I find its interface a little clunky. I find the google groups format to much better. Of all the groups I participate in, dare I say the facebook group is the best. Its the easiest to navigate, load photos, and interact with on a regular basis. A bunch of us are already there, may as well form a group. I don't know how one would deal with the archive of files and photos, etc. though.


Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture



Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

 

I am on a and I find its interface a little clunky. I find the google groups format to much better. Of all the groups I participate in, dare I say the facebook group is the best. Its the easiest to navigate, load photos, and interact with on a regular basis. A bunch of us are already there, may as well form a group. I don't know how one would deal with the archive of files and photos, etc. though.


Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture

3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765


Re: Crazy Horse panel cart

 

I thought the dolly had provisions to carry the sheet vertically, long side parallel to ground. I doubt most hobby shops with a few large machines have the room to navigate the shop with 4x8 sheet horizontal, unless the saw is next to the entryway.

Imran


Re: Crazy Horse panel cart

 



I did not see this link in other posts, but this seems to be the website where one can select the Crazy Horse and then add it to the cart and then proceed to checkout! ?FYI.

For me, I do not have a lot of space in my shop anywhere close to what is on the youtube video. ?I store 4x8 plywood away from where my saw is located, and when I need to cut down a plywwood sheet, I then hand carry it over to the saw. ?My only possible alternative would be a panel cart as the width requirement is far less than the 4 ft plus clearance needed when the sheet is flat. ?When I am at the machine, being able to fix the slider and then position the panel is always awkward, and if this compact Crazy Horse will make that as easy as it looks on the youtube video in my shop where I have less space surrounding my saw, then that would be great!


Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

 

John does a better moon-walk though.


Re: groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

 

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Might as well be - ?Michael Jackson and Renzetti participate here about the same amount. ? :-P

David Best

On Jan 8, 2018, at 1:06 PM, mac campshure mac512002@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:


I thought it was Michael Jackson?

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell
Designing and building for 47 years

On Jan 8, 2018, at 2:46 PM,?murkyd@...?[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:

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I know the fate of the Yahoo group has been discussed before, and I know it's a non-trivial issue, but I've noticed a bunch of Yahoo groups recently moving to??and people seem to be pretty happy with it.


Just curious if folks here have looked at it.? ?I'm not sure who actually "owns" the Yahoo group.? Is it Brian?


Mark


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John Renzetti actually owns the group.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 8, 2018, at 1:46 PM, murkyd@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:


I know the fate of the Yahoo group has been discussed before, and I know it's a non-trivial issue, but I've noticed a bunch of Yahoo groups recently moving to groups.io and people seem to be pretty happy with it.


Just curious if folks here have looked at it.? ?I'm not sure who actually "owns" the Yahoo group.? Is it Brian?


Mark


??



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I thought it was Michael Jackson?

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 47 years


On Jan 8, 2018, at 2:46 PM, murkyd@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:

?

I know the fate of the Yahoo group has been discussed before, and I know it's a non-trivial issue, but I've noticed a bunch of Yahoo groups recently moving to and people seem to be pretty happy with it.


Just curious if folks here have looked at it.? ?I'm not sure who actually "owns" the Yahoo group.? Is it Brian?


Mark


??


groups.io for Felder Woodworking?

 

I know the fate of the Yahoo group has been discussed before, and I know it's a non-trivial issue, but I've noticed a bunch of Yahoo groups recently moving to groups.io and people seem to be pretty happy with it.


Just curious if folks here have looked at it.? ?I'm not sure who actually "owns" the Yahoo group.? Is it Brian?


Mark


??


Re: Rip fence locking lever

 

Thanks Brian
Sorry I should have said it's a 2015 K700s (and yes it locks onto the round bar)
I'll have to study my parts diagram and see if i can make any headway. I was hoping someone had already been down this road!
Stephen

On 8 Jan 2018 00:03, "Brian Lamb blamb11@... [felder-woodworking]" <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:

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Stephen,


I went out and looked at my KF, I assume you are talking about the model that locks onto the round bar? I had too much stuff in the way to pull the whole head off the bar, but it appears that the plastic lever cams over and pulls the sheet metal yoke tight against the bar. I could see real well, but there appears to be several screws in the area of where the lever hits, so maybe they are some sort of adjustment. My parts list doesn’t show this particular set of parts as this was a retrofit situation on the 2001 machines that came with an aluminum rip fence head that was completely different.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Jan 7, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Stephen ayesurely@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hi
The locking lever on the rip fence of my K700s has always been very tight, it requires a lot of force to lock it. I'd like to slacken it just a bit so that I can lock it down easier.?
Any guidance as always will be much appreciated.?
Regards
Stephen




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Stephen,

I went out and looked at my KF, I assume you are talking about the model that locks onto the round bar? I had too much stuff in the way to pull the whole head off the bar, but it appears that the plastic lever cams over and pulls the sheet metal yoke tight against the bar. I could see real well, but there appears to be several screws in the area of where the lever hits, so maybe they are some sort of adjustment. My parts list doesn’t show this particular set of parts as this was a retrofit situation on the 2001 machines that came with an aluminum rip fence head that was completely different.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 7, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Stephen ayesurely@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:


Hi
The locking lever on the rip fence of my K700s has always been very tight, it requires a lot of force to lock it. I'd like to slacken it just a bit so that I can lock it down easier.?
Any guidance as always will be much appreciated.?
Regards
Stephen