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Finished up my Copy Stick

 

I finally had some time to finish up my Copy Stick. ? Many thanks to those who shared their own versions and especially to David Best who graciously shared multiple iterations of his design.
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My KF700 only has the 30" rip capacity so I opted to use the shaper hood mounting holes for my jig. ? Although I could tilt my rip fence out of the way when using the Copy Stick, ?I would lose the calibration of my DRO and have to reset it each time. ? By using the shaper hood holes, ?I only have to slide my rip fence rearward which does not reset the DRO.
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My shaper hood mounting block is very tight and one of the holes is oblong. ?I wanted to be able to easily drop in my Copy Stick so I machined it to suit and used two round pins which give a nice positive registration. ?However, ?when I first attached the sliding arm to it, it teetered a bit since the rearmost hole is elongated. ? The addition of a magnet at the rear of the base fixed that issue.
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One of my goals with these projects is "Can I do without spending any money?". ? I found some aluminum chunks laying around as well as one Kipp lever left over from a previous project. ?The extrusion came with a used Festool MFT I bought years ago. ?
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My shop is extremely narrow at 14' 5" (4.4 meters) so my parallel fence support is almost never mounted to the saw. ? I find that I want to use a Copy Stick mostly on material that is less than 24" (61cm) wide. ?Anything wider than that seems to have enough bearing on the slider fence to ensure a 90¡ã cut. ?With this in mind, ?I wanted to be able to use the Copy Stick with or without the parallel fence table. ? To do this, I built my jig so the adjustable arm would be 7/8" (22mm) above the sliding table surface and I made the end stop so it had a flat surface on both the front and back.?
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This allows me to align either face with the digital stops on the outrigger crosscut fence.
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This way I can use the end stop as a hook for narrow work without having to mount the parallel fence support. ?I set up my stock under the adjustable arm, ?clamp the material in place, ?and simply lift off the jig before making the cut. ?This works for anything up to 22mm thick but I suppose one could fabricate a version with more clearance underneath for thicker stock. ?
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Of course the jig works in the conventional way as well
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-Rusty
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Re: #forsale K700 Professional and FB 610 (Seattle) #forsale

 

What are the details on the shopsabre?

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On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 12:30?PM Jared via <jarbroen=[email protected]> wrote:
Still available and I'm open to offers.
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I also have a ShopSabre 23 I'll be selling as well as a Hammer A3-31, Oneida Supercell w/ Nordfab ducting and a Jessem router table.
The ShopSabre is ready to go, but I'm waiting on selling the big items before I sell my jointer and dust collector.
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Thanks and happy woodworking!
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Re: #forsale K700 Professional and FB 610 (Seattle) #forsale

 

Still available and I'm open to offers.
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I also have a ShopSabre 23 I'll be selling as well as a Hammer A3-31, Oneida Supercell w/ Nordfab ducting and a Jessem router table.
The ShopSabre is ready to go, but I'm waiting on selling the big items before I sell my jointer and dust collector.
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Thanks and happy woodworking!
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Re: Lamb Parallel Fence Old Style

 

I have an F coupling mounting head, but if he wants the old style rod and such, those are long gone. It would be a linear rail now.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com


On Saturday, April 26, 2025 at 06:35:47 PM MST, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:


I would think that Brian could help you out with that he must still make them for the F coupling,
Mac,,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Apr 24, 2025, at 3:07?PM, john hejmanowski via groups.io <johnhejmanowski@...> wrote:

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Does anyone have a Lamb Tool Works old style Parallel Fence they would like to sell? I need the F-style.
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<Lamb parallel fence old style.jpeg>
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Thanks. John H


Re: Lamb Parallel Fence Old Style

 

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I would think that Brian could help you out with that he must still make them for the F coupling,
Mac,,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Apr 24, 2025, at 3:07?PM, john hejmanowski via groups.io <johnhejmanowski@...> wrote:

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Does anyone have a Lamb Tool Works old style Parallel Fence they would like to sell? I need the F-style.
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<Lamb parallel fence old style.jpeg>
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Thanks. John H


Re: Spindle/Shaper woes

 

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The cutters and the bushings that fit on the shaft should fit on it pretty snug. I wouldn¡¯t advise using any anti-seize as those parts do not move if you¡¯re sleeves and are so snug that they don¡¯t feel like they move take another sleeve and tap it on top of it. It will loosen it up if that¡¯s not the case and there¡¯s something wrong with the shaft..
I would say it¡¯s OK to use aunti sneeze on the screw if there is a screw or if there is a set screw to hold the bushing on top down and see on the threaded screw would be fine, but not on the shaft my advice is just based on many years of experience being around shapers and never seen anti seeze a shaft. I might be wrong though, and there are other folks on this site that probably have more experience than I do that on this subject.
The critical thing on the shaft and the cutter and the bushings is that everything is extremely clean, never dropped and carefully handled because it¡¯s pretty damn easy to bend a shaft with a ding on one of the bushings
Cutters gull when they are not properly clamped on the spindle and with Felder¡¯s, making sure the Cap is not seating on the top of the spindle.
Mac,,
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martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Apr 26, 2025, at 11:47?AM, Brian Lamb via groups.io <blamb11@...> wrote:

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If you have polished off the galled spots on the shaft and the cutters, then I would add some anti-seize when you put a cutter on there and make sure you lock it down tight and you don't have anything to loose. As long as the shaft isn't bent, which you can put an indicator on that pretty easy to make sure.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com


On Saturday, April 26, 2025 at 05:10:52 AM MST, Paul Mc Cann via groups.io <tpmccann@...> wrote:


My CF 731 has a dust collector polycarbonate shroud around the cutter head on the spindle moulder (shaper). This became dislodged and collided with a large rebate (rabbet) cutter , 150mm x 50mm (6" x 2"). Whether this caused the subsequent problem or not but the cutter seized on the spindle shaft. Lots of WD40 and brute force dislodged it but the spacer rings under it would not slide off. I applied cloth strip to the shaft as it rotated under power and this did the trick.
My question will the shaft be damaged beyond use? It rotates smoothly with no detectable wobble by eye when powered up. Will the cutter head be up tthe left as well? I'm tempted to just try it but fear the cutter will just get? seized again. Or will I just buy a new shaft. I have the high speed router shaft as well so I'm not complete;y stuck.
Why do these things always happen in the middle of? a job.
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Thanks for any assistance
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Paul Mc Cann


Re: Spindle/Shaper woes

 

If you have polished off the galled spots on the shaft and the cutters, then I would add some anti-seize when you put a cutter on there and make sure you lock it down tight and you don't have anything to loose. As long as the shaft isn't bent, which you can put an indicator on that pretty easy to make sure.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com


On Saturday, April 26, 2025 at 05:10:52 AM MST, Paul Mc Cann via groups.io <tpmccann@...> wrote:


My CF 731 has a dust collector polycarbonate shroud around the cutter head on the spindle moulder (shaper). This became dislodged and collided with a large rebate (rabbet) cutter , 150mm x 50mm (6" x 2"). Whether this caused the subsequent problem or not but the cutter seized on the spindle shaft. Lots of WD40 and brute force dislodged it but the spacer rings under it would not slide off. I applied cloth strip to the shaft as it rotated under power and this did the trick.
My question will the shaft be damaged beyond use? It rotates smoothly with no detectable wobble by eye when powered up. Will the cutter head be up tthe left as well? I'm tempted to just try it but fear the cutter will just get? seized again. Or will I just buy a new shaft. I have the high speed router shaft as well so I'm not complete;y stuck.
Why do these things always happen in the middle of? a job.
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Thanks for any assistance
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Paul Mc Cann


Spindle/Shaper woes

 

My CF 731 has a dust collector polycarbonate shroud around the cutter head on the spindle moulder (shaper). This became dislodged and collided with a large rebate (rabbet) cutter , 150mm x 50mm (6" x 2"). Whether this caused the subsequent problem or not but the cutter seized on the spindle shaft. Lots of WD40 and brute force dislodged it but the spacer rings under it would not slide off. I applied cloth strip to the shaft as it rotated under power and this did the trick.
My question will the shaft be damaged beyond use? It rotates smoothly with no detectable wobble by eye when powered up. Will the cutter head be up tthe left as well? I'm tempted to just try it but fear the cutter will just get? seized again. Or will I just buy a new shaft. I have the high speed router shaft as well so I'm not complete;y stuck.
Why do these things always happen in the middle of? a job.
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Thanks for any assistance
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Paul Mc Cann


Re: Shaper hose replacment KF 700

 

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Hi Mike,

If the hose exits low on the cabinet, why do you need to mess with the PF. In my case, The hose exits thru the tilt bracket. May be a picture will help.

If you rest the PF on the cast iron there will not be any weight on the F channel interface. This may be okay, as long as the PF and the stand is stable and does not wobble left or right.

I did the opposite which places weight on the F channel and it hung in a stable manner. It does force the lower part of the tilt bracket into the machine but I was still able to pull the plastic cover out. I still don¡¯t know why you need to remove the plastic cover if the hose exits lower on the cabinet.

Imran Malik
IAM Wood Creations

On Apr 25, 2025, at 7:55?PM, TMichael WARD via groups.io <tmikko@...> wrote:

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Thanks Imran. My power feeder too is resting .? My 2008 machine also rests on the F rail, but has an. 80 mm hose which is? longer, as it goes down to the bottom edge of the cabinet.
Based on your experience, I'll try to spin the power feeder over to the saw deck, unweight it by lowering to the table, and maybe lift the inner part of the? tube so that when I undo the mounting bolts I can pull it out far enough to free the plastic shroud. Then hopefully can get at the upper hose connection.? And see if I can persuade my 3D printing friends to make me two 80 mm to 2.5" adapters. Mike


Re: How much pressure does your pin nailer require?

 

Update:
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Bought Metabo NP50A, it is $120 on Amazon:
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At 80 PSI it drove 1 3/8¡± pins consistently. It is advertised to handle up to 2¡± but 1 3/8¡± is the longest I had as that was the limit for the Grex I bought and returned. It drives as short as 1/2¡±.
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I feel comfortable with keeping this as I have 20 PSI head room and would not care if it did not drive 2¡± all the way.
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Imran
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Re: Shaper hose replacment KF 700

 

Thanks Imran. My power feeder too is resting .? My 2008 machine also rests on the F rail, but has an. 80 mm hose which is? longer, as it goes down to the bottom edge of the cabinet.
Based on your experience, I'll try to spin the power feeder over to the saw deck, unweight it by lowering to the table, and maybe lift the inner part of the? tube so that when I undo the mounting bolts I can pull it out far enough to free the plastic shroud. Then hopefully can get at the upper hose connection.? And see if I can persuade my 3D printing friends to make me two 80 mm to 2.5" adapters. Mike


Dovetail (S Clamp) rip fence extension (hunting for a Unicorn)

 

Long ago, Felder made a male / female dovetail fitting extension piece in cast iron to extend the capacity of the rip fence on the universal machine.
Neglectfully I never bought one at the time, but years later one would be particularly useful.
Before i dig the milling machine out of storage and push my engineering skill to there limits I will raise 3 questions to the group.
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Is there one of these lying dusty and un used on a shelf that someone would like to part with? If so can we discuss a price?
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If you are unwilling to part with the one you have, would you be willing to post an accurate set of cross section dimensions sufficient to replicate this .
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Apologies if this has been raised in the past but a search of previous posts has not yeildd a result for the dovetail dimensions.
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Thanks
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Paul


Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection

 

That's how Harvey delivered my dust collector. I had the audacity to assume it was standard.

Stan

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On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 08:20, Larry Long Neck via groups.io <longneckwood@...> wrote:
Those moffett 3-wheel off-road truck-mounted forklifts that landscape supply companies use to deliver heavy pallets of wall block and other materials would be fantastic for machine delivery. I wish that was a standard option offered.
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Larry Long Neck
Just a noob trying to learn the ways of wood

> Making youtube videos now!
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Lamb Parallel Fence Old Style

 

Does anyone have a Lamb Tool Works old style Parallel Fence they would like to sell? I need the F-style.
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Thanks. John H


Nova Viking Performance and Experience

 

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As it was mentioned earlier here, Nova¡¯s US arm is going thru chapter 11 reorganization. Appears they liquidated Nova Viking via Grizzly. It cost me $1187 delivered with lift gate charge ($500 off list price). Bit of a let down, I was told by Grizzly CS that extended warranty is included in purchase price but it turned out not to be the case.

I was able to assemble the unit myself. Just scooted the column to the edge of the styrofoam so I can attach the base. Then lifted it up.



Talking about the base it is not as big or as substantial as my current Delta 17-900. Although, I found it to be stable. For heavy and long metal work, it would be best to secure the base someway. It is not mentioned anywhere but it must have soft start as there is no startup torque induced vibration, something I am used to experiencing on my Delta.



Couple of minor issues. Morse taper was scratched. Nova sent a replacement, took longer than I like but there was no resistance. Apparently they are working with a skeleton crew. I could not find a place to attach the chuck key holder other than removing one of the screws that holds the top cover and screwing it in that location. No mention in the manual either. I prefer a simple magnet for this but here is how I mounted it.



The manual is decent but not perfect by any means. I will need to come up with a speed chart that I can mount on the DP. My Delta has one on the machine and it is very handy. One other thing, it requires a 3900 J surge protector. This Eaton model set me back $85. I wanted a smaller unit but could not find one, I guess it is not a big deal.



There is no runout to speak of at the taper.


Not sure how important this is, but the chuck outside is within 0.001¡±.



Then I chucked a new 15/32 bit and checked runout on shank on the top and it measured +/- 0.001¡±. I don¡¯t have a precise shaft to indicate down couple of inches to see how accurate it really is but so far so good.



I thought that I would need to buy an expensive chuck to get this type of performance, so naturally I am very satisfied.

Just drilled the first hole (1/2¡±) in the plastic. Very nice and crisp hole. It is to install a panel mount fuse holder. The plastic cover could not be easily held perfectly vertical the way it is constructed and I noticed that the laser is slightly off. I will try a flat piece to double check before messing with re-alignment of the laser.

HTH anyone, considering to buy a Viking. I assume Voyger is just as good if not better.

Imran Malik
IAM Wood Creations

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Re: Shaper hose replacment KF 700

 

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Here you go Mike.


Imran Malik
IAM Wood Creations

On Apr 23, 2025, at 5:08?PM, TMichael WARD via groups.io <tmikko@...> wrote:

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I see from searching that the main hose replacement has been discussed quite a bit, but my 2008 machine main hose is in good shape.
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However, the 100 mm hose from the shaper cavity just under the saw top surface, which has a hose (100 mm?) leading down to a plastic chute on the side of the saw has disintegrated down to the wire loops.
I took off the lower metal access panel, and can get to the exit connector, but the top one is another story.
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First, I have my power feeder bracket installed with the feeder on it. And I have the auxilary side table mounted to the back of the saw cabinet.?
Maybe the only way to service this is to take off the power feeder, the power feeder bracket and the lift cylinder, then remove the side plastic shroud on the side, and see if I can get to it then.?
Other ideas??
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Thanks, Mike Ward


Re: Feedback on the sliding saw selection

 

On 23-4-2025 08:20, Larry Long Neck via groups.io wrote:
Those moffett 3-wheel off-road truck-mounted forklifts that landscape supply companies use to deliver heavy pallets of wall block and other materials would be fantastic for machine delivery. I wish that was a standard option offered.
That is what they use a lot in EU, makes delivery so much easier indeed. I have not seen them in the US at all (at least not at my almost ending two weeks in Las Vegas).


Kind regards,


Jonathan


Re: Shaper hose replacment KF 700

 

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I posted replacing this hose few months ago. I was able to do it without removing the power feeder. I had to remove the 2 studs and pull out the plastic cover. I am not sure if the plastic cover needed to be removed or I decided to do it because I wanted to clean it. The PF hangs off the F channel and I kept the PF in a location that kept pressure on the bottom of the bracket such that it was being driven into the machine.

I will find my post after dinner and share. Hopefully, I put more details in it.

IIRC, the hose is 90 mm and it was a pain to get the 2 ends connected. I am remembering more as I type. I did removed the dust collector port in the process.

Imran Malik
IAM Wood Creations

On Apr 23, 2025, at 5:08?PM, TMichael WARD via groups.io <tmikko@...> wrote:

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I see from searching that the main hose replacement has been discussed quite a bit, but my 2008 machine main hose is in good shape.
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However, the 100 mm hose from the shaper cavity just under the saw top surface, which has a hose (100 mm?) leading down to a plastic chute on the side of the saw has disintegrated down to the wire loops.
I took off the lower metal access panel, and can get to the exit connector, but the top one is another story.
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First, I have my power feeder bracket installed with the feeder on it. And I have the auxilary side table mounted to the back of the saw cabinet.?
Maybe the only way to service this is to take off the power feeder, the power feeder bracket and the lift cylinder, then remove the side plastic shroud on the side, and see if I can get to it then.?
Other ideas??
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Thanks, Mike Ward


Re: Need 12" digital caliper

 

Wow, that was spot on Imran.? I? have no idea how you figured that out.?? Best I can tell, it is an exact replacement for that part (although I did not remove the existing part).
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Thanks,
Aaron Inami


Shaper hose replacment KF 700

 

I see from searching that the main hose replacement has been discussed quite a bit, but my 2008 machine main hose is in good shape.
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However, the 100 mm hose from the shaper cavity just under the saw top surface, which has a hose (100 mm?) leading down to a plastic chute on the side of the saw has disintegrated down to the wire loops.
I took off the lower metal access panel, and can get to the exit connector, but the top one is another story.
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First, I have my power feeder bracket installed with the feeder on it. And I have the auxilary side table mounted to the back of the saw cabinet.?
Maybe the only way to service this is to take off the power feeder, the power feeder bracket and the lift cylinder, then remove the side plastic shroud on the side, and see if I can get to it then.?
Other ideas??
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Thanks, Mike Ward