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Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe sliding table and the splinter tongue shown in those drawings is of a pre-X-roll machine circa 2002. ?Just FYI. ?That said, the wing-screws and rhombus t-nuts could be used with the current crosscut fence to secure a shop-made tearout preventer such as shown below.?David Best - via mobile phone? On Dec 14, 2024, at 3:10?PM, PK via groups.io <pk@...> wrote:
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Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup
Netaniel,
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I went out to check out what I have and I have the answer:
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These are for a sacrificial piece of wood to be added to the crosscut fence:
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This is for a sacrificial piece to be added to the front of the fence:
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The other parts I cannot speak to.
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Re: Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep
Michael,
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I have used the SurfPrep 3x4 and subsequently bought and use a Ekasand 3x4 from Uneeda.? They seem to be identical and the Ekasand had a longer warranty.? Prices are the same, but Uneeda has far more sales than Surfprep.??
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I use the sander with the sponge sandpaper and I am very happy with it.? It excels at working on finishes and I have yet to see a pigtail from it ever.? Lots of shops use them to scuff before coats and the results are far better than hand sanding.
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There are lots of videos out there on them and how to use it on doors etc.
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They sell an adaptor to use it with the festool vacuums.
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Re: Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep
Hi Michael,?
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I have the Mirka 6" random orbit sander and I really like it. With the sander in hand I don't notice the paddle switch. For shop work I wouldn't hesitate to go all-in on Mirka. If you opt for Mirka, I suggest getting one of their ~18" hose sections which can thread directly onto the sander, this makes for a more well-balanced sander which is easier to handle.?
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If you're on the go, I'd suggest also considering the new Makita sanders. I recently ordered a Makita BO005CGZ 80mm x 133mm sander and I really like it. Very similar ergonomics to the Mirka Deros and Deos sanders, with the benefit of being cordless, running on the Makita 40V XGT platform. At present, the only way to get these sanders is to import from Japan or the UK via e-bay sellers, though it does look like Makita USA will be introducing the 6" 5mm random orbit sanders in early 2025, presumably with the others (6" 3mm, 5" 5mm, 5" 3mm, 80x133, and Delta) to come some time later.?
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Makita GOB01CZ: ?
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Standard 27mm hose bayonets fit the Makita XGT sanders fine, though for more finesse I suggest using a Makita vac as their hose will thread onto a special adapter, similar setup as the Mirka. I make extensive use of my Makita GCV04PMUX, best when paired with 8.0Ah batteries: ?
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Hope this is helpful,?
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Re: Mirka DEOS 3x4 vs Surfprep
I have been using a 5" Mirka Deros since 2020. It just went kaput one day a couple weeks ago. Sent it in for service, they made it a very easy process. Came back with virtually every part replaced. Cost $320. It gets used a lot.? A finisher of mine uses the Surfprep and likes them a lot.? Jason Holtz J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 612.432.2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406 |
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Re: Felder FB610 Fence Support problems
Pictures converted to jpg in case they don't open for you. Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 01:57:19 PM MST, Brian Lamb via groups.io <blamb11@...> wrote:
Here are some pictures of the rip fence housing on my KF700 nand how they adjust the fence to be square. First picture is from the top showing the screws that limit how hard you can clamp. Then the next two pictures show the adjustment screws to set the fence to 90?. If you "knuckle" doesn't have that feature, you will need to add it, or get Felder to replace the knuckle with one that is square. Personally bI would want the ability to adjust the fence for square. Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 01:41:24 PM MST, Brian Lamb via groups.io <blamb11@...> wrote:
As I posted before, the set screws are there to limit how hard you can clamp on the aluminum extrusion using the center bolt. It sounds like the machined surface of the slot that rests on the F bar, is not machined square to the faces that the fence extrusion mounts to. If that is the case, and you don't want to wait for Felder to come to their senses, fix it yourself by having the slot re-machined, or adding a set screw to the slot so it bears on the F bars and cures the issue. Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 01:22:31 PM MST, Ron Pomeroy via groups.io <rpomeroy@...> wrote:
<disclaimer - this is my understanding of things>
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No. It in fact exposed the problem with the knuckle.
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The mounting (flat) bars need to be parallel (coplanar) to the table surface. Otherwise the fence will rise and fall as it travels left and right. At some point the fence can run into the table surface. ?
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The nylon screws underneath need to be adjusted so that:
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A) there is a small consistent gap between the aluminum fence extrusion and the table so that the fence sits just above the table. ?
B) the groove in the knuckle that rides on the flat bar sits perfectly flat and doesn¡¯t rock so your fence is stable and square to the table. If the nylon screws underneath are not adjusted correctly the fence assembly will rock and squareness will not be repeatable as you move the fence. the nylon screws underneath serve only two roles:
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As for the set screws in the knuckle - truth be told - I think it¡¯s a design flaw. Maybe they have a completely different purpose I don¡¯t know about. The rail and fence assemble designs are roughly the same on the Hammer N4400 and the Felder FB lines. ?It¡¯s interesting that the knuckle on the N4400 doesn¡¯t have any set screws. I also had to shim the fence on the N4400 to get it square (again I aligned the rails parallel to the table first). Drift/toe-out was adjusted by adjusting the bolts that hold the rail to the table.
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If I¡¯m wrong someone speak up and correct me.
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Re: Felder FB610 Fence Support problems
Here are some pictures of the rip fence housing on my KF700 nand how they adjust the fence to be square. First picture is from the top showing the screws that limit how hard you can clamp. Then the next two pictures show the adjustment screws to set the fence to 90?. If you "knuckle" doesn't have that feature, you will need to add it, or get Felder to replace the knuckle with one that is square. Personally bI would want the ability to adjust the fence for square. Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 01:41:24 PM MST, Brian Lamb via groups.io <blamb11@...> wrote:
As I posted before, the set screws are there to limit how hard you can clamp on the aluminum extrusion using the center bolt. It sounds like the machined surface of the slot that rests on the F bar, is not machined square to the faces that the fence extrusion mounts to. If that is the case, and you don't want to wait for Felder to come to their senses, fix it yourself by having the slot re-machined, or adding a set screw to the slot so it bears on the F bars and cures the issue. Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 01:22:31 PM MST, Ron Pomeroy via groups.io <rpomeroy@...> wrote:
<disclaimer - this is my understanding of things>
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No. It in fact exposed the problem with the knuckle.
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The mounting (flat) bars need to be parallel (coplanar) to the table surface. Otherwise the fence will rise and fall as it travels left and right. At some point the fence can run into the table surface. ?
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The nylon screws underneath need to be adjusted so that:
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A) there is a small consistent gap between the aluminum fence extrusion and the table so that the fence sits just above the table. ?
B) the groove in the knuckle that rides on the flat bar sits perfectly flat and doesn¡¯t rock so your fence is stable and square to the table. If the nylon screws underneath are not adjusted correctly the fence assembly will rock and squareness will not be repeatable as you move the fence. the nylon screws underneath serve only two roles:
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As for the set screws in the knuckle - truth be told - I think it¡¯s a design flaw. Maybe they have a completely different purpose I don¡¯t know about. The rail and fence assemble designs are roughly the same on the Hammer N4400 and the Felder FB lines. ?It¡¯s interesting that the knuckle on the N4400 doesn¡¯t have any set screws. I also had to shim the fence on the N4400 to get it square (again I aligned the rails parallel to the table first). Drift/toe-out was adjusted by adjusting the bolts that hold the rail to the table.
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If I¡¯m wrong someone speak up and correct me.
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PK
David P. Best
Tom Gensmer
Jason Holtz
