Re: Some questions on the Overhead Guard
Rusty,
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Very nice job Sir!
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Just out of curiosity, how much time do you think you spent on design and fabrication?
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Jacques
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Re: Some questions on the Overhead Guard
My K700S is due here in 2 days, so next week will be consumed with assembly, repositioning some things and hooking up the dust collection - which brings me to a couple questions.
I could not get the Felder Overhead Guard since it was only available from Delaware and that was $500+ in shipping to my house so I was looking at a 2K total expenditure.
Needless to say, I would rather spend that on other accessories.
I have some spare 2x2 tubing of various gauges, so I am thinking of making my own overhead guard as an interesting side project.
I don't like any of the aftermarket one's I have seen and being as I have all the steel laying around that I need, I could save a lot doing this project myself.
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My questions are:
?- Does anyone know the measurement of the Felder guard from center of front wheel to center of back wheel??
?- Also, the approximate thickness of the guard - it looks to me to be about 2 inches or so.
Looking at the Felder, SCM, and Altendorf guards, they all angle back maybe 15 degrees or so.?
Do you think this is for a sleeker look or maybe allows for a bit easier lifting of the guard.?
I don't see a reason why you could not have one that raised and lowered at 90 degrees to the table if the design worked out that way - but maybe I'm missing something there.
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I will play around with a few designs but if I don't like my end result, I won't use it. The last thing I want to do is detract from the appearance of such a nice machine.
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As always, any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Dennis
Payson, AZ
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Re: Some questions on the Overhead Guard
Denno,
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Here are some shots of my home-made guard. ? Having used bulky (wide) guards for years, I wanted to make one as skinny as possible so it could still be used for relatively thin rips while keeping the hose high up out of my way and sightline. ? ? However, this design did cost me a bit in terms of good dust collection at the hood as I am only feeding it with a 3" hose. ?I know from my own experience that if the guard is in my way, ?I won't use it. ? A skinny guard with a high hose input means that I will leave it place 90% of the time. ? Your priorities may be different. ?Mine tilts, pivots, and telescopes in and out as well as up and down. ? It is also hinged at the wall so it can be completely folded out of the way for shaper operations or cuts on very tall projects. ?Don't forget to make it long enough to guard the scoring blade as well as the main blade! ? Ask me how I know.
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Congrats on the new Saw!
-Rusty
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Re: Parts list for Jointer guard arm
Found one in 700 series books.
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On Nov 7, 2024, at 5:44?PM, David Luckensmeyer via groups.io <david@...> wrote: ?
Hi Imran:
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Right you are. This is the only picture I can find ¨C I assume you have the same. It is strange.
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Warm regards,
Lucky
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Dr David Luckensmeyer
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
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Hi Lucky,
What you shared looks like my booklet but it does not include the arm to which the guard is mounted. The guard itself is included on a separate page. Kind of strange to not include this.
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On Nov 7, 2024, at 5:31?PM, David Luckensmeyer via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
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Hi Imran:
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Does this help?
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Warm regards,
Lucky
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Dr David Luckensmeyer
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
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My book for Dual 51 does not include the parts list for the spring loaded arm that has the cutterhead guard. See pic below:
There is a bracket (has been removed in above pic) that mounts under the elevation knob and I would like to have the typical assembly drawing and part numbers if anyone has them.
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Re: In Need of New Tires for F38
Rusty, appreciate details.? Great!
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Re: In Need of New Tires for F38
Thanks, Imran.? I didn't dress them that much, so I'm going to try that per your suggestion again, since I'm mid-project on some doors. Hopefully that will get me through and then look to improve with some replacements also.?
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Re: Some questions on the Overhead Guard
"Looking at the Felder, SCM, and Altendorf guards, they all angle back maybe 15 degrees or so.?"
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If the guard is set too low and the wood/material runs into the guard while you are pushing it through, the "angled" guard movement will naturally/automatically lift up from the forward pressure of the wood and allow the wood to flow underneath.? If the guard lifts at 90 degrees, the wood will just run into it and stop, unless there is a rather large wheel on the front to act as a "lever".
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-Aaron
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Some questions on the Overhead Guard
My K700S is due here in 2 days, so next week will be consumed with assembly, repositioning some things and hooking up the dust collection - which brings me to a couple questions.
I could not get the Felder Overhead Guard since it was only available from Delaware and that was $500+ in shipping to my house so I was looking at a 2K total expenditure.
Needless to say, I would rather spend that on other accessories.
I have some spare 2x2 tubing of various gauges, so I am thinking of making my own overhead guard as an interesting side project.
I don't like any of the aftermarket one's I have seen and being as I have all the steel laying around that I need, I could save a lot doing this project myself.
?
My questions are:
?- Does anyone know the measurement of the Felder guard from center of front wheel to center of back wheel??
?- Also, the approximate thickness of the guard - it looks to me to be about 2 inches or so.
Looking at the Felder, SCM, and Altendorf guards, they all angle back maybe 15 degrees or so.?
Do you think this is for a sleeker look or maybe allows for a bit easier lifting of the guard.?
I don't see a reason why you could not have one that raised and lowered at 90 degrees to the table if the design worked out that way - but maybe I'm missing something there.
?
I will play around with a few designs but if I don't like my end result, I won't use it. The last thing I want to do is detract from the appearance of such a nice machine.
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As always, any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Dennis
Payson, AZ
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Re: Parts list for Jointer guard arm
Hi Imran:
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Right you are. This is the only picture I can find ¨C I assume you have the same. It is strange.
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Warm regards,
Lucky
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Dr David Luckensmeyer
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
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Hi Lucky,
What you shared looks like my booklet but it does not include the arm to which the guard is mounted. The guard itself is included on a separate page. Kind of strange to not include this.
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On Nov 7, 2024, at 5:31?PM, David Luckensmeyer via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
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Hi Imran:
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Does this help?
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Warm regards,
Lucky
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Dr David Luckensmeyer
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
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My book for Dual 51 does not include the parts list for the spring loaded arm that has the cutterhead guard. See pic below:
There is a bracket (has been removed in above pic) that mounts under the elevation knob and I would like to have the typical assembly drawing and part numbers if anyone has them.
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Re: Parts list for Jointer guard arm
Hi Lucky,
What you shared looks like my booklet but it does not include the arm to which the guard is mounted. The guard itself is included on a separate page. Kind of strange to not include this.
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On Nov 7, 2024, at 5:31?PM, David Luckensmeyer via groups.io <david@...> wrote: ?
Hi Imran:
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Does this help?
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Warm regards,
Lucky
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Dr David Luckensmeyer
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
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My book for Dual 51 does not include the parts list for the spring loaded arm that has the cutterhead guard. See pic below:
There is a bracket (has been removed in above pic) that mounts under the elevation knob and I would like to have the typical assembly drawing and part numbers if anyone has them.
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Re: Parts list for Jointer guard arm
Hi Imran:
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Does this help?
?
Warm regards,
Lucky
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Dr David Luckensmeyer
Designer & Maker
@luckensmeyer
M: 0413 013 115
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My book for Dual 51 does not include the parts list for the spring loaded arm that has the cutterhead guard. See pic below:
There is a bracket (has been removed in above pic) that mounts under the elevation knob and I would like to have the typical assembly drawing and part numbers if anyone has them.
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Parts list for Jointer guard arm
My book for Dual 51 does not include the parts list for the spring loaded arm that has the cutterhead guard. See pic below:
There is a bracket (has been removed in above pic) that mounts under the elevation knob and I would like to have the typical assembly drawing and part numbers if anyone has them.
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Re: OT: What is the name of this type of clip?
That type of fastner? were more commonly used in car upholstery See
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https://www.springmasters.com/push-on-fasteners/
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Paul Mc Cann
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Re: OT: What is the name of this type of clip?
Shaft Clips, 15-7 PH Stainless Steel, for 1/8" OD https://www.mcmaster.com/97622A102
If you can sharpen in place, that¡¯s what I do. Just a good file will do or is jason suggested Diamond stone water lubricant Designing and building for 50 years
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On Nov 7, 2024, at 7:30?AM, Jason Holtz via groups.io <jholtzy@...> wrote:
? Michael, I'd forget trying to remove that thing and just use a small diamond stone to do those edges. Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: F700Z Slider Transport Locks / Lugs
I have removed Oh easily a couple hundred of these and all I do is push on the slider one way or the other in till they loosen take it out Designing and building for 50 years
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On Nov 7, 2024, at 8:43?AM, KRPatel via groups.io <kamalsonal@...> wrote:
? Had the same issue with my K700S and F700Z as they were set in place very snug.? I used a pair of pliers and slowly worked them out...keep in mind there may be thin strips of wood also inserted to prevent the slider from moving...peer down the long channel and check and if you have a PhD in hieroglyphics there may have been a separate set of instructions/paperwork that illustrates the removal of these if you can decipher.
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Kamal Patel
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Re: F700Z Slider Transport Locks / Lugs
Had the same issue with my K700S and F700Z as they were set in place very snug.? I used a pair of pliers and slowly worked them out...keep in mind there may be thin strips of wood also inserted to prevent the slider from moving...peer down the long channel and check and if you have a PhD in hieroglyphics there may have been a separate set of instructions/paperwork that illustrates the removal of these if you can decipher.
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Kamal Patel
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Re: OT: What is the name of this type of clip?
Michael, I'd forget trying to remove that thing and just use a small diamond stone to do those edges. Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: In Need of New Tires for F38
Ron,
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I just put new wheels from Western Roller on my F38. ? They fit perfectly and work great. ?
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My original wheels seemed to be in flawless condition and were still soft and pliable. ? ?However, they did not work well at all. ?
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Western Roller item number 1040-0020013. ? 120mm X 60mm tapered ID for split hubs. ? 70 Duro. ??
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-Rusty
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Re: F700Z Slider Transport Locks / Lugs
I should mention that if you do try to use my method, make sure the slider locking lever is not engaged!
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 at 09:14, Mi?elis Vindavs via <mikelis.vindavs= [email protected]> wrote: I had a similar issue. Trying to remove them using tools it felt like I'm going to slip and damage something. What worked for me was giving the sliding table a sharp push which made the lug on one side pop out.
Hope this helps, and congrats on the new machine!
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 at 04:51, imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: The only help I can offer is to confirm that they are for transportation. ? My new F700Z arrived today.? The table was shipped with transport locks / lugs. Seems like the factory hammered them in pretty hard and I cannot seem to be able to remove easily. Anyone else had this problem? I am assuming these are the transport lugs. ?
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Re: F700Z Slider Transport Locks / Lugs
I had a similar issue. Trying to remove them using tools it felt like I'm going to slip and damage something. What worked for me was giving the sliding table a sharp push which made the lug on one side pop out.
Hope this helps, and congrats on the new machine!
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 at 04:51, imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: The only help I can offer is to confirm that they are for transportation. ? My new F700Z arrived today.? The table was shipped with transport locks / lugs. Seems like the factory hammered them in pretty hard and I cannot seem to be able to remove easily. Anyone else had this problem? I am assuming these are the transport lugs. ?
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imran
Denno
David Luckensmeyer
Jason Holtz