Re: KF700 S Keeps throwing scoring blade belt
No... can't do that as one pulley has extra hanging off the backside and the other off the front side. And looking closer the idler pulley looks like it would be too wide either way.
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, July 8, 2024 at 08:31:07 AM MST, <buck.ron@...> wrote:
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Mystery solved? I think I have the wrong belt from Felder. I checked planarity as best I could (can't say it was a great check, but nothing seriously out of wack) and remounted the belt again. I noticed the belt seemed a little proud on the outside edge. this pic shows the scoring blade drive and the idler. I dont know much about belts, but I think I can count. The belt has 7 ribs, but the pulleys only have 6 landings. Unless someone here can tell me otherwise (like - "it's fine like that"?), I'll see if I can get Felder to replace with the correct part. Ron p.s. According to the parts manual and the Felder store, this is the correct part - so like I said, I don't know anything about belts. I can only assume now that it was hung wrong ("extra" rib on the inside on one pulley and outside on another).?
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Re: KF700 S Keeps throwing scoring blade belt
That would be the problem. Those type of belts are pretty common, if you don't want to wait for Felder, you can probably find one local, or Amazon.
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, July 8, 2024 at 07:59:51 AM MST, buck.ron@... <buck.ron@...> wrote:
Mystery solved? I think I have the wrong belt from Felder. I checked planarity as best I could (can't say it was a great check, but nothing seriously out of wack) and remounted the belt again. I noticed the belt seemed a little proud on the outside edge. this pic shows the scoring blade drive and the idler. I dont know much about belts, but I think I can count. The belt has 7 ribs, but the pulleys only have 6 landings. Unless someone here can tell me otherwise (like - "it's fine like that"?), I'll see if I can get Felder to replace with the correct part. Ron 
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Re: KF700 S Keeps throwing scoring blade belt
Mystery solved? I think I have the wrong belt from Felder. I checked planarity as best I could (can't say it was a great check, but nothing seriously out of wack) and remounted the belt again. I noticed the belt seemed a little proud on the outside edge. this pic shows the scoring blade drive and the idler. I dont know much about belts, but I think I can count. The belt has 7 ribs, but the pulleys only have 6 landings. Unless someone here can tell me otherwise (like - "it's fine like that"?), I'll see if I can get Felder to replace with the correct part. Ron p.s. According to the parts manual and the Felder store, this is the correct part - so like I said, I don't know anything about belts. I can only assume now that it was hung wrong ("extra" rib on the inside on one pulley and outside on another).? 
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Re: Bandsaw blades - lesson learned
Hi Jason, what I do most of is rip up cants that are basically 4 x 4 and the feeder works beautifully for that. I think the wheels are probably 3 1/2 inches tall ?works quite well. If I do any woodworking, it¡¯s mostly 98% solid wood very rarely do I ever need any veneer work? Just not my thing I do windows and doors mostly and architectural details. That¡¯s when I get a chance which is pretty damn rare. Mac,,
Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jul 8, 2024, at 8:32?AM, Jason Holtz via groups.io <jholtzy@...> wrote:
? Nice setup Mac. Looks like it would be great for ripping. Maybe not so good for resawing? How tall is that wheel, like 3"? Our belt type feeder is only 6" high and it struggles a bit when resawing wider material also.?
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Bandsaw blades - lesson learned
Nice setup Mac. Looks like it would be great for ripping. Maybe not so good for resawing? How tall is that wheel, like 3"? Our belt type feeder is only 6" high and it struggles a bit when resawing wider material also.?
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Bandsaw blades - lesson learned
Pictures help?   Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jul 7, 2024, at 12:52?PM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
? Greetings; Bock thought I would share a few things. I have a rapid 640 which is a ACM I believe and I mounted comic basic feeder. I find it annoying that I could only rip fairly narrow stuff maybe 5 inch wide so I built a table that mounts very rigid to the corner of the cast table. This allows me to mount the fee feeder in its correct position or can be moved out to about 10 inches away from the blade with the listening of one bolt just slide it back, proving to be quite handy. I also got it out the electrics on the side, which was kind of stupid. I couldn¡¯t work anything from the operator side of the side without a lot of screwing around so I set it up so I have start stop switch in the corner by the operator disconnect disconnect is at the front of the machine instead of the back of it, the power feeder is powered up to the saw so the feeder runs with the saw I also wired it up a nice LED light which also runs when the saw is on. Jason, I have some of those half-inch blades. I haven¡¯t had a chance to use yet. There was a bunch of them came with a saw right now. I¡¯ve got a few 1 inch carb that are on the machine at the moment but anxious to give whatever a try. Designing and building for 50 years On Jul 7, 2024, at 8:42?AM, Jason Holtz via groups.io <jholtzy@...> wrote:
? I sliced 12 veneers at slightly over 1/16" from 5/4 bubinga last week with a 1/2" Wood slicer. The cut is probably good enough to glue down. I know carbide is good, but for the thicker kerf and 3x cost I will stick with these. They are fantastic.
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Clamps and accessories
Here you go: ? 
? ? Imran Malik ? ?
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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2024 12:35 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FOG] Clamps and accessories ? James,
I'm about to receive a KF700sp. Just wanting to know what the dims are for the t-nut to suit the slider? I'm sure its in the forum somewhere but cant find.
Thanks,
Chris.
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Re: Bandsaw blades - lesson learned
Greetings; Bock thought I would share a few things. I have a rapid 640 which is a ACM I believe and I mounted comic basic feeder. I find it annoying that I could only rip fairly narrow stuff maybe 5 inch wide so I built a table that mounts very rigid to the corner of the cast table. This allows me to mount the fee feeder in its correct position or can be moved out to about 10 inches away from the blade with the listening of one bolt just slide it back, proving to be quite handy. I also got it out the electrics on the side, which was kind of stupid. I couldn¡¯t work anything from the operator side of the side without a lot of screwing around so I set it up so I have start stop switch in the corner by the operator disconnect disconnect is at the front of the machine instead of the back of it, the power feeder is powered up to the saw so the feeder runs with the saw I also wired it up a nice LED light which also runs when the saw is on. Jason, I have some of those half-inch blades. I haven¡¯t had a chance to use yet. There was a bunch of them came with a saw right now. I¡¯ve got a few 1 inch carb that are on the machine at the moment but anxious to give whatever a try. Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jul 7, 2024, at 8:42?AM, Jason Holtz via groups.io <jholtzy@...> wrote:
? I sliced 12 veneers at slightly over 1/16" from 5/4 bubinga last week with a 1/2" Wood slicer. The cut is probably good enough to glue down. I know carbide is good, but for the thicker kerf and 3x cost I will stick with these. They are fantastic.
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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On Jul 6, 2024, at 10:34?PM, Chris via groups.io <Hope752@...> wrote:
James,
I'm about to receive a KF700sp. Just wanting to know what the dims are for the t-nut to suit the slider? I'm sure its in the forum somewhere but cant find.
Thanks,
Chris.
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Re: Bandsaw blades - lesson learned
I sliced 12 veneers at slightly over 1/16" from 5/4 bubinga last week with a 1/2" Wood slicer. The cut is probably good enough to glue down. I know carbide is good, but for the thicker kerf and 3x cost I will stick with these. They are fantastic.
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Bandsaw blades - lesson learned
Hi Rich and welcome to the forum. I had a 17¡± Grizzly and a 24¡±. Then I sold those two and bought a FB510, used it a few days and returned it, then bought a Grizzly 21¡± with the electric brake. I think for a hobbyist that¡¯s the sweet spot. I too agree that the wood slicer blades are great.
Bill Belanger?
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On Jul 6, 2024, at 17:38, rsrosemd via groups.io <rsrosemd@...> wrote:
?Hi everyone,
New member here.
I've been operating woodworking equipment for about 60 years (and boy am I getting tired - ba dum bum! ?)
I've had a Grizzly 17" 2hp bandsaw for the last 10 years. I think I know how to adjust bandsaws. The first blades I put on the machine were Timber Wolf. Usually a 1/2" 3 tpi skip tooth. I was never happy with the cut. Good but never really good. I tried many other brands with some better results but not consistent. Never any drift, but never really high-quality cuts.
Then I switched to Wood Slicers 5 years ago. I almost always have a 3/4" 3 tpi blade on the machine. For almost everything. I can resaw or cut 1/16" veneer from any kind of wood. Perfectly straight, unvarying thickness. The surface of the cut almost looks like it came off the jointer. They last a long time. Unless they change their formula, I'll never use another brand.
Rich
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Re: Bandsaw blades - lesson learned
Hi everyone,
New member here.
I've been operating woodworking equipment for about 60 years (and boy am I getting tired - ba dum bum! ?)
I've had a Grizzly 17" 2hp bandsaw for the last 10 years. I think I know how to adjust bandsaws. The first blades I put on the machine were Timber Wolf. Usually a 1/2" 3 tpi skip tooth. I was never happy with the cut. Good but never really good. I tried many other brands with some better results but not consistent. Never any drift, but never really high-quality cuts.
Then I switched to Wood Slicers 5 years ago. I almost always have a 3/4" 3 tpi blade on the machine. For almost everything. I can resaw or cut 1/16" veneer from any kind of wood. Perfectly straight, unvarying thickness. The surface of the cut almost looks like it came off the jointer. They last a long time. Unless they change their formula, I'll never use another brand.
Rich
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Re: New Hammer N440 or Used/like new Minimax S45N
Warranties are a complex subject and the law varies from state to state.? Nevertheless, they exist to protect consumers, especially implied warranties.? In my experience, Felder has some ridiculous notions about seller's responsibilities but will quickly step up if you can show that they are on the wrong side of the law.??
So do a little research about the law in your own state, which probably goes beyond the Felder warranty.? For example, many states impose an? implied warranty of merchantability which generally means the machine does what is supposed to, which yours doesn't and generally dates from sale not manufacture.??
Also, limitations in written warranties like an unexpected start date are less enforceable if the seller didn't make the documents available pre-sale.
A good start would be to Google warranties/consumer advice, especially https//c?on that and related topics, such as where to report abuse.
Good luck and happy hunting.
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Re: New Hammer N440 or Used/like new Minimax S45N
The broken casting for the fence base happened to a few I know as well. In my case, the fit of the base was a little sloppy, which made the fence "swing" into position. The work-around was to push against the fence before tightening down. But this should have beeen unnecessary.
For all of us (with an issue), Felder (in Perth) was prompt in replacing the part.
I compared the parts, and the original had a thinner casting. The fact that it is a casting, which may have hidden occlusions, places it at risk. Having said all this, my replacement is about 15 years old now.
Regards from Perth
Derek
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Re: Free Shipping July 4th only
Continued today. ?Free shipping on most everything ¡ª I bought a spare filter for my RL125.
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On Jul 4, 2024, at 10:41?AM, PK via groups.io <pk@...> wrote:
I know Imran posted it to FB.. Free shipping on the Felder Website today - makes a few things way more affordable:
- Fat 300
- Transport Cart
- HS950
- Hammer J/P combos...
PK
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Re: New Hammer N440 or Used/like new Minimax S45N
I believe Felder?warranty?starts after the delivery, common sense. If Felder told you the warranty?starts from build date, that is ridiculous, completely BS.
Since your invoice is Feb 2024, your machine is 100% under warranty.
James
Imran and Alex,
I bought this as new. Delivery from felder.
I paid in full, the day they provided the invoice.
I did not ask them to deliver a two year old machine.
Purchase date, on my invoice is Feb of this year. It doesn't matter anymore, now I've noticed that the table isn't coplanar (of course, now I'm being picky about everything) and I've already ordered a replacement third party fence.
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Re: New Hammer N440 or Used/like new Minimax S45N
Imran and Alex,
I bought this as new. Delivery from felder.
I paid in full, the day they provided the invoice.
I did not ask them to deliver a two year old machine.
Purchase date, on my invoice is Feb of this year. It doesn't matter anymore, now I've noticed that the table isn't coplanar (of course, now I'm being picky about everything) and I've already ordered a replacement third party fence.
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Re: New Hammer N440 or Used/like new Minimax S45N
Hi Mike,
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In the US, warranties generally start on the purchase date, while some start on the delivery or installation date. ?Basically, the warranty starts when you complete the purchase. ?If you placed a deposit on the purchase, but didn't complete the purchase until just before you received the machine, you might have a case. ?But, warranties vary from company to company. ?The devil is in the details. ?Check your purchase contract. ?Ask Felder for a copy of their warranty policy.
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If I were Felder, I would have you return the part for evaluation. ?If the part is defective, I would replace it under warranty. ?If it appeared to be abused, I would deny the claim.
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Best of luck,
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Alex B.
On 07/05/2024 7:51 AM PDT ~mike <mstens@...> wrote:
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This is a bit late, but perhaps it'll help someone else make a decision in future. I have an N4400 that in the few months I've owned it has been fine. Except that the fence head casting cracked and felder seems to date their warranty from build date. Since this thing sat in their warehouses for two years before it was shipped to me, I'm having to argue about warranty coverage. Long story short, buy used as it doesn't seem to matter. Also, the replacement part is over half the cost of a driftmaster.
What a juice-shop this outfit is.
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Re: New Hammer N440 or Used/like new Minimax S45N
Hi Mike, ? Did this sit in Felder warehouse due to your request or it was just new old stock. In case latter is true, I think you have a strong case. I would also factor in how much of a break in price did you receive. A compromise should be arrived at considering all these factors. ? Imran ?
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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of ~mike via groups.io Sent: Friday, July 05, 2024 10:51 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FOG] New Hammer N440 or Used/like new Minimax S45N ? This is a bit late, but perhaps it'll help someone else make a decision in future. I have an N4400 that in the few months I've owned it has been fine. Except that the fence head casting cracked and felder seems to date their warranty from build date. Since this thing sat in their warehouses for two years before it was shipped to me, I'm having to argue about warranty coverage. Long story short, buy used as it doesn't seem to matter. Also, the replacement part is over half the cost of a driftmaster.
What a juice-shop this outfit is.
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Re: Sealing Particle Board
Minwax Wood Hardener is worth a try. Works well in my experience on mdf.
Maybe add one more melamine board with edge sealed (epoxy) underneath.
James
On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 12:25?AM Michael Garrison Stuber via <mtgstuber= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Folks,
??? I need some advice.? I've been working on making a vacuum
press table.? I put together a torsion box and attached a melamine
top to it.? I CNC cut channels in the melamine to allow the vacuum
to flow.? What I had not adequately considered was how porous the
particle board is.? My vacuum pump is running continuously, and
while the plastic sucks down, I never get over 1" of mercury.? It
seems a lot of the issue is just the airflow through the particle
board.? Any recommendations on the best way to seal the exposed
edges of the melamine and the grooves in the top?
??? Some of the stuff I've seen online has suggested oil-based
poly.? Other suggestions have included glue (all types), and
Gorilla spray sealant.? Thoughts?
??? Note:? The photo below doesn't show the gasketing (applied to
the melamine in two concentric rings that align with the
extrusion) or the polyurethane vacuum bag (applied to the
extrusion).
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Michael Garrison Stuber
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