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It seems all of these devices are the same regardless of price in that they all have an accuracy of .2 degrees…
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 1:57?PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
Maybe this Westward digital protractor? paired with EZ digital miter gauge? is good enough?
I have a Bosch digital protractor along those same lines. They aren't accurate enough either, .1? is all they read to, and it's more like plus or minus .1?. That's worse than the 1/12? that the Starrett claims. Here is the link to David's message:
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 10:27:18 AM MST, stevensivak < stevensivak@...> wrote:
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this:
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I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <
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Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <
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yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
I have a couple of those digital level gizmos too. I used one for setting blade tilt angle on a cabinet saw, and it was an improvement over the indicator on the saw itself. If one needs super precise measurements it is not likely to be sufficient. The base is narrow and is plastic, so manufacturing tolerances limit them.
They are robust. I saw one get launched across a shop when the operator turned the saw on with the device still on the blade. The case is a bit chewed up, but it still works.
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Maybe this Westward digital protractor? paired with EZ digital miter gauge? is good enough?
I have a Bosch digital protractor along those same lines. They aren't accurate enough either, .1? is all they read to, and it's more like plus or minus .1?. That's worse than the 1/12? that the Starrett claims. Here is the link to David's message:
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 10:27:18 AM MST, stevensivak < stevensivak@...> wrote:
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this:
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Steven Sivak
w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <
blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <
gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
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yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
I do not wish to buy his tool at some sort of “limited collector value” And while I did initially say “regardless of price..” ?1,000$ is more than I? 补苍迟颈肠颈辫补迟别诲…
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 1:35?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
I have a Bosch digital protractor along those same lines. They aren't accurate enough either, .1? is all they read to, and it's more like plus or minus .1?. That's worse than the 1/12? that the Starrett claims. Here is the link to David's message:
?/g/felderownersgroup/message/121334
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On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 10:27:18 AM MST, stevensivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this:
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Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:59?PM, Steven Sivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
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yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
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I use Beal like Waxiy for many years on saw and shaper and milling spindles for years close enough for my work just have to feed them batteries. Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:35?PM, Brian Lamb via groups.io <blamb11@...> wrote:
? I have a Bosch digital protractor along those same lines. They aren't accurate enough either, .1? is all they read to, and it's more like plus or minus .1?. That's worse than the 1/12? that the Starrett claims. Here is the link to David's message:
?/g/felderownersgroup/message/121334
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 10:27:18 AM MST, stevensivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this:
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Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:59?PM, Steven Sivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
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yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
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I have a Bosch digital protractor along those same lines. They aren't accurate enough either, .1? is all they read to, and it's more like plus or minus .1?. That's worse than the 1/12? that the Starrett claims. Here is the link to David's message:
?/g/felderownersgroup/message/121334
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 10:27:18 AM MST, stevensivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this: |
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:59?PM, Steven Sivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
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yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
I was about to ask you which digital device you are inquiring about. Zhou never shared a link until now. I am surprised you are asking a list this when you speak of your requirement of 3 decimal places. You should be able to tell, from specification that this device is not up to it. Also you cannot use an inclinometer for setting g your xcut fence. I believe you need to make compound angle cuts. Sorry, if I misunderstood your need.
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 1:27?PM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote: ?
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this: |
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:59?PM, Steven Sivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
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yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
I did read his message- I don’t see any offer of sale for the Bridge City Tool
However, its clear that no one who has replied uses something like this: |
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:59?PM, Steven Sivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
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w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
<IMG_0016.jpeg>
yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
David Best replied with pictures, video's and even has one offered for sale if you had looked at his message.
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On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:59:26 AM MST, stevensivak <stevensivak@...> wrote:
I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
w:?? ? ? p: 248.860.3228
On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
<IMG_0016.jpeg> yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
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I would love to see one of those bridge city devices, but alas…
So no one who has responded uses one of those digital devices?
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 12:48?PM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
<IMG_0016.jpeg> yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
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Nothing beats a sine plate, although not very practical for woodworking. All of these bevel gages are not anywhere close to accurate enough at 5 minutes of a degree. The Bridge City Gizmo is going to give you the best angle setting for a relatively easy to use jig that is applicable to woodworking, as it is basically using the sine plate convention with a digital caliper instead of Jo blocks.
Brian Lamb blamb11@... lambtoolworks.com
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 09:38:00 AM MST, Gerry Kmack <gerry.kmack@...> wrote:
yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
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yup that’s it - Starrett #C359. It don’t think they make it anymore. Mine also came with the optional right angle thingie, that attaches to the bar with the logo on it. The right angle attachment is useful, but increases the complexity of the setup, if needed. I use it at least weekly, to check the accuracy of angles cut on my CNC mill.
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Hi Robert, please pm me……Regards, Rod
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Re: Will custom shaper knives make this project easier?
Brent, ?I have watched some of your helpful videos! ? Did I read in one of these threads that you are "helping out" Whitehill here in North America? ? I am preparing some drawings for them as I think I want to order a Combi head along with some custom cutters. ?Can you recommend someone over there who will remind me of all the important details that I have neglected to think of? ??
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 11:01?AM, Aaron Inami via groups.io <ainami@...> wrote:
?I have used that General Tools Angle Protractor #17 for various things.? I have also used this General Tools Angle finder #39 for things as well.? They work well, even if they are not super precision.
-Aaron
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Just did some angle measurements this am a on staircase parts with 100 year old Starrett. Becomes very easy with I phone 14 camera
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 10:06?AM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
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I have used that General Tools Angle Protractor #17 for various things.? I have also used this General Tools Angle finder #39 for things as well.? They work well, even if they are not super precision.
I also have a set of the Bridge City Tools UG-1 Universal Gauges that I have used as well.? They are very nice:
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 7:28?AM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
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We have already discussed this tool.
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 8:27?AM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
Accurate and repeatable to an accuracy of 0.08 degrees. ?
David Best
On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:23?AM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
?Gerry- which Starrett product are you referring to? ?If you are referring to a protractor type of gage,
then is simply not accurate enough regardless of what has been stated here. ?For the application that
I am using it for, the tool has to be used to reset a variety of angular dimensions.
It was just too far gone and and support for a 25 year old machine was limited and I did no want to wait around for some unknown period of time hunting and? pecking for parts.
Same Blasco made me an offer I could not refuse on a cu300C
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 11:00?AM, mac campshure via groups.io <mac512002@...> wrote:
Did u buy the bf631? Designing and building for 50 years On Jun 17, 2024, at 9:29?AM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
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We have already discussed this tool.
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 8:27?AM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
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Accurate and repeatable to an accuracy of 0.08 degrees. ?
David Best
On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:23?AM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
?Gerry- which Starrett product are you referring to? ?If you are referring to a protractor type of gage,
then is simply not accurate enough regardless of what has been stated here. ?For the application that
I am using it for, the tool has to be used to reset a variety of angular dimensions.
Did u buy the bf631? Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 9:29?AM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
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We have already discussed this tool.
Steven Sivak
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On Jun 17, 2024, at 8:27?AM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
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Accurate and repeatable to an accuracy of 0.08 degrees. ?
David Best
On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:23?AM, stevensivak via groups.io <stevensivak@...> wrote:
?Gerry- which Starrett product are you referring to? ?If you are referring to a protractor type of gage,
then is simply not accurate enough regardless of what has been stated here. ?For the application that
I am using it for, the tool has to be used to reset a variety of angular dimensions.
imran
Gerry Kmack
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