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Re: Recommended pedestal drill press

 

Bob,

Any chance you could post a few pictures of your setup, I’d like to see your roll around.

Text if that’s easier to 316 393-1851.

Thanks,
Tom


Re: Recommended pedestal drill press

 

I have a full size press on a roll around. Not close to a tipping problem. Can always add weight down low as well. I did this on a bandsaw base by pouring a small slab of concrete to lower cg.

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On Mar 17, 2024, at 3:52?PM, Tom Morris <morrist@...> wrote:

Dave,

My current Delta drill press is on a mobile base, I move it into the main area of the shop for use. I’d be concerned that a new full size press would be too top heavy to roll around and I don’t think I’d ever use the full height.

A bench top would give me good storage underneath.

Tom


Re: Recommended pedestal drill press

 

Dave,

My current Delta drill press is on a mobile base, I move it into the main area of the shop for use. I’d be concerned that a new full size press would be too top heavy to roll around and I don’t think I’d ever use the full height.

A bench top would give me good storage underneath.

Tom


Re: Recommended pedestal drill press

 

Tom,
? Mobile drill press? Why would you need to have it mobile?? All of my tools can be moved around.? I built a platform for mine so it can be moved with my narrow fork pallet jack...but I never move it.
Dave Davies

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 9:19?AM Tom Morris <morrist@...> wrote:
If I understand their website, I believe you can get it as tabletop version. I’m considering going this way so that it is mobile. Any thoughts.

tom



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Re: Recommended pedestal drill press

 

If I understand their website, I believe you can get it as tabletop version. I’m considering going this way so that it is mobile. Any thoughts.

tom


Re: RL200 vs Cyclone style dust collector

 

See the clear vinyl hose? There's a valve to adjust open to equalize pressure on both sides of liner to prevent the problem. Valve closed when no liner to prevent a recirculating load.



On Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 8:50?AM Marlowe McGraw <marlomcgraw@...> wrote:
I have donaldson torit cyclone with the pants splitting to two 8 inch drops into 55 gallon drums.? I have the lid clamped to the barrel (seal under the lip of the lid).? Per the Donaldson people, to get proper separation, it needs to be airtight (pun intended Mac).? I don't understand? the transition from cyclone to bag without a clamp as Mac described it.

Marlowe

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 8:37?AM Stan Blaszczyk <blaszcsj@...> wrote:
I had a 3hp Oneida. It was ok but clunky to change out and was limited by bucket size. The RL takes up marginally more room but is 2-3x better on space efficiency and now I have racking above for storage. I do wish i had a manometer on it for airflow. It would make knowing the height of chips in the bins…


Re: Recommended pedestal drill press

 

Oops.? I mistyped. 2025.? I bought it from an auction.? No options but it works well and is solid.? I previously had a belt driven Powermatic and the belts would slip under load.? No issues with this beast.
Dave Davies?

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 8:23 AM Tom Morris <morrist@...> wrote:
Dave,

Why did you go with the 2035 as opposed to the smaller 2025 or 2030? Which options did you get. Does it work well as a woodworking machine?

I was impressed that the president of the company replied to my email on the weekend!

Tom Morris?

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Re: RL200 vs Cyclone style dust collector

 

I have donaldson torit cyclone with the pants splitting to two 8 inch drops into 55 gallon drums.? I have the lid clamped to the barrel (seal under the lip of the lid).? Per the Donaldson people, to get proper separation, it needs to be airtight (pun intended Mac).? I don't understand? the transition from cyclone to bag without a clamp as Mac described it.

Marlowe

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 8:37?AM Stan Blaszczyk <blaszcsj@...> wrote:
I had a 3hp Oneida. It was ok but clunky to change out and was limited by bucket size. The RL takes up marginally more room but is 2-3x better on space efficiency and now I have racking above for storage. I do wish i had a manometer on it for airflow. It would make knowing the height of chips in the bins…


Re: RL200 vs Cyclone style dust collector

 

I had a 3hp Oneida. It was ok but clunky to change out and was limited by bucket size. The RL takes up marginally more room but is 2-3x better on space efficiency and now I have racking above for storage. I do wish i had a manometer on it for airflow. It would make knowing the height of chips in the bins…


Re: Eccentric clamp alternatives?

 

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Wade like this?? I make the mount and shaft that twists and looks in the mount.
I also make a manifold for air distribution like a slider with quick connects .
Mac,,


IMG_3822

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mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

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On Mar 14, 2024, at 7:41?PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:

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Hi Aaron,

Thank you very much for the clamp writeup as well. ?Great info here! ?

I wonder if they could ever create a threaded end on this clamp that could be swapped out so you can use the same clamp body for either T-nut anchor scenario, or switch to use in a hole to anchor to your bench too. ?Dual purpose clamp in one. ??

Thx,

Wade




On Mar 14, 2024, at 7:45?AM, Aaron Inami <ainami@...> wrote:

?Hi Wade,

The Harvey Compass build quality is excellent and it is definitely as good as it looks on the website pictures (with the exception of the stock t-slot nut, lol).

Some observations.? The Compass has to be positioned slightly at an angle so that the rear leg does not collapse into the t-slot.? It takes longer to do clamping/release operations when compared to the Kreg (but it's not really bad).? The Kreg quick-clamp and quick-release mechanism is super fast.? However, you can clamp down a very small piece against the fence like the following (something the Kreg clamps have a problem with):
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The short leg has a reach that is just under the Kreg 3".? The long leg reach is about the same as the Kreg 6":
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The max height of the short leg is about 4-1/2".? The max height of the long leg is about 2-3/16".
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In the end, I'm very happy with the Harvey Compass clamp and it's my primary use clamp.? I will pull out a Kreg now and then for a particular scenario and I'm always using the Kreg 6" as a reach-over on the cross-cut fence.

-Aaron










Re: RL200 vs Cyclone style dust collector

 

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Brian,?
You did not mention the cyclone you are using.
For small shops the ClearVue cyclone is the best, safest, cleanest system available. Due to its superior design (developed by Bill Pence), I rarely need to clean my filters, and my plastic garbage bag liner in my large dust bin never gets “sucked up”.
I strongly recommend you put ClearVue on the top of your list.
Chris Rozycki?

On Mar 17, 2024, at 8:58?AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:

?Brian all send a few pics later this am,
In short the bag is on the outside of the sleeve the sleeve fills and you pull the sleeve out of the bag
.
Mac,,


martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Mar 17, 2024, at 7:52?AM, Brandon Nickel <brandon.nickel@...> wrote:

?That's a pretty generic question. Is there something specific you're trying to find out??

I've got an RL160 which works great with my hobbyist usage. I generally only operate one machine at a time and it has no problem moving material with a 6" ceiling-mounted Nordfab piping system. You still have to keep an eye on the bins. Once they get full it's a huge pain to clean the filters. However, they do hold a lot of material.?


Re: Recommended pedestal drill press

 

Chris,

Another Arboga user here. ?It’s 3 phase 440volt. ?We used a step up transformer (230-440v). ?It was
pre-owned and cheap. ?The gear head is smooth and the spindle alignment is perfect. ?We’ve even?
done light milling with it…. ?Plus it works on steel.

Mike
M.E. Blake General Contractors


Re: Recommended pedestal drill press

 

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Dave,

Why did you go with the 2035 as opposed to the smaller 2025 or 2030? Which options did you get. Does it work well as a woodworking machine?

I was impressed that the president of the company replied to my email on the weekend!

Tom Morris?

Get


Re: RL200 vs Cyclone style dust collector

 

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Brian all send a few pics later this am,
In short the bag is on the outside of the sleeve the sleeve fills and you pull the sleeve out of the bag
.
Mac,,


martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Mar 17, 2024, at 7:52?AM, Brandon Nickel <brandon.nickel@...> wrote:

?That's a pretty generic question. Is there something specific you're trying to find out??

I've got an RL160 which works great with my hobbyist usage. I generally only operate one machine at a time and it has no problem moving material with a 6" ceiling-mounted Nordfab piping system. You still have to keep an eye on the bins. Once they get full it's a huge pain to clean the filters. However, they do hold a lot of material.?


Re: RL200 vs Cyclone style dust collector

 

That's a pretty generic question. Is there something specific you're trying to find out??

I've got an RL160 which works great with my hobbyist usage. I generally only operate one machine at a time and it has no problem moving material with a 6" ceiling-mounted Nordfab piping system. You still have to keep an eye on the bins. Once they get full it's a huge pain to clean the filters. However, they do hold a lot of material.?


Re: RL200 vs Cyclone style dust collectorn

 

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In my case, the sleeve goes inside the bag. Its height is close to the drum height, so even if the empty bag lifts it cannot move up much because the sleeve hit the lid/cover.

The issue with my homemade one was that I tried to make it with the taper of the drum and the material was not stiff enough. Can’t recall what I made it out off, it was more than 10 yrs ago.?

Imran Malik

On Mar 17, 2024, at 8:13?AM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

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If the bag is just floating inside that sleeve, how do you prevent the bag from being sucked up into the cyclone when you turn it on?


On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 7:30?AM imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
I tried a homemade version of this that worked okay. I don’t use cyclone as my main dust collector so did not follow thru but I was going to try this product. This however is only available for 30-39 gal size.


Imran Malik

On Mar 17, 2024, at 7:17?AM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:

?Mac and I have discussed this before.? I believe he started with two plastic and lightweight drums.? Then cut off the ends of the drums.? What’s left is a plastic cylinder sleeve.? Put the sleeve on a dolly platform, fill the inside of the sleeve with a properly sized bag, and fill the bag with chips.? When it’s full, lift the sleeve vertically off the bag, and you’re left with a full bag of chips on a dolly. ? ?How’d I do Mac?


On Mar 17, 2024, at 3:58?AM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

Hey Mac.

I’m not sure if I follow your description. Would you mind sending some photos? That sounds very promising.?

On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 10:12?PM mac campshure via <mac512002=[email protected]> wrote:
Brian,,,
I cut the bottom off 2 - 60 gallon plastic drums, light to handle.
I put the bag over the sleeve than put the covers on , no need to clamp.
They sit on wheeled dolly drum . I put windows in the sleeve. Than I can see when there filling up.?
When full I lift covers off and pull the sleeve out and take the bag of chips and dispose.?
Mac,,


martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell
Designing and building for 50 years

On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:02?PM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

?
Currently I have a 3.5 HP cyclone dust collector. it is plumbed down to 2 55-gallon drums. For a while this has worked fine for me with a few small issues:

  • In order to ensure the bags don't suck up into the cyclone, I have some ridging lining that I place in the bag, in the drum. This works ok but not great.?
  • Changing the bag is a nightmare.?
  • Despite having a level indicator on one of the drums, it seems to always back up without alerting me.?
So I am considering replacing my cyclone style dust collector with an alternative like an RL160, RL200, or possibly the Harvey Dust Extractor.

Does anyone have some insight about the felder dust collectors?

-Brian




Re: RL200 vs Cyclone style dust collectorn

 

If the bag is just floating inside that sleeve, how do you prevent the bag from being sucked up into the cyclone when you turn it on?


On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 7:30?AM imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
I tried a homemade version of this that worked okay. I don’t use cyclone as my main dust collector so did not follow thru but I was going to try this product. This however is only available for 30-39 gal size.


Imran Malik

On Mar 17, 2024, at 7:17?AM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:

?Mac and I have discussed this before.? I believe he started with two plastic and lightweight drums.? Then cut off the ends of the drums.? What’s left is a plastic cylinder sleeve.? Put the sleeve on a dolly platform, fill the inside of the sleeve with a properly sized bag, and fill the bag with chips.? When it’s full, lift the sleeve vertically off the bag, and you’re left with a full bag of chips on a dolly. ? ?How’d I do Mac?


On Mar 17, 2024, at 3:58?AM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

Hey Mac.

I’m not sure if I follow your description. Would you mind sending some photos? That sounds very promising.?

On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 10:12?PM mac campshure via <mac512002=[email protected]> wrote:
Brian,,,
I cut the bottom off 2 - 60 gallon plastic drums, light to handle.
I put the bag over the sleeve than put the covers on , no need to clamp.
They sit on wheeled dolly drum . I put windows in the sleeve. Than I can see when there filling up.?
When full I lift covers off and pull the sleeve out and take the bag of chips and dispose.?
Mac,,


martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell
Designing and building for 50 years

On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:02?PM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

?
Currently I have a 3.5 HP cyclone dust collector. it is plumbed down to 2 55-gallon drums. For a while this has worked fine for me with a few small issues:

  • In order to ensure the bags don't suck up into the cyclone, I have some ridging lining that I place in the bag, in the drum. This works ok but not great.?
  • Changing the bag is a nightmare.?
  • Despite having a level indicator on one of the drums, it seems to always back up without alerting me.?
So I am considering replacing my cyclone style dust collector with an alternative like an RL160, RL200, or possibly the Harvey Dust Extractor.

Does anyone have some insight about the felder dust collectors?

-Brian




Re: New Hammer N440 or Used/like new Minimax S45N

 

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I went searching for the PDF - it wasn’t easy, so here is a direct link:


Tom, thanks for sharing. I have a BSEE, but power systems was my least favorite class and I skipped a lot. :-)

Regards,
Michael


On Mar 16, 2024, at 11:01?PM, Tom Trees <tomasgilgunn@...> wrote:

?The next size up is where you should be starting looking, since you've mentioned power feeders IMO.
Just to comfortably use a Woodmaster CT, or other carbide blade, which need more tension.
I would suggest the Meber 600 on the bay being something to consider, not sure how much beyond 200 quid
they want for it, (needs a new motor)
Or Centauro CO, specifically the ones from 1980's to 1995 (note telescopic guidepost, but missing mitre slot)
The both of those being fully adjustable, concerning the bare bones of things, i.e motor and lower wheel to suit the upper wheel
compared to any other Italian, or other modern saw based on such designed, sticking to the recipe is as good as it gets for sheet metal saws,
i.e the Hammer is based on such, whilst the S45n is unlike anything else.
The difference between said Meber or Centauro of a certain era being the foot mounted motor, compared to flange or face mounted motors on everything else, so makes adjustability a bit simplified compared.
Not that it would bother me, cutting a hole into the machine to "let in" the motor to accommodate adjustibility on any,
in order to suit the upper wheel, that is, and not make any compromises regarding splitting the difference between motor and wheel.

Nothing guaranteed without such adjustability, so might as well look for something which you don't mind painting,
just as long as you can be certain the wheel bearings are still snug in the wheel bores.



i.e hands on , listening for noises whilst hand turning wheels, seeing it run, not with a narrow blade..

If you want cheap, or soft start, (for pleasant sake) then you might consider looking for bargain 3 phase Italian stuff,
and look up the real UK run forum, the woodhaven 2, and download Bob's "Induction motor issue PDF"
which would guide you through your options regarding having considered such a machine, which should have 240v on the motor nameplate.
and lead you down the rational route, (certainly a no brainer for me in regards to my situation)
of choosing to go the VFD/inverter route.
So say 500 quid saw, or twice that for something in real good nick/cutting well
200 logistics to get home, 100 quid for cheapie, or around double for UK VFD,
If old and for the former, some tires and glue... if not ACM's thick vulcanized real rubber, might be pricey,
bearings and belts off the shelf, though could spend something on expensive guides should you buy a feeder
Oh and a tin of paint should the need arise, for twenty, bits and bobs not going to cost a fortune.

Have a look through some posts which is on the other UK forum, i.e Startrite tablesaws for instance,
which will simplify things concerning the VFD/inverter setup,
For a bandsaw or TS, it's no more complicated than wiring a 13a plug,
and learning about, say 15 parameters (motor commands to be entered)
is no biggie, and you won't find conflicting advice about those important things, so rest assured,
not like a sharpening thread.

If you do consider to read Bob Minchin's PDF, (best I've ever read on the matter)
it'll open up a world of three phase machines to you, should you want better, but for half as much.

All the best
Tom


Re: RL200 vs Cyclone style dust collectorn

 

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I tried a homemade version of this that worked okay. I don’t use cyclone as my main dust collector so did not follow thru but I was going to try this product. This however is only available for 30-39 gal size.


Imran Malik

On Mar 17, 2024, at 7:17?AM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:

?Mac and I have discussed this before. ?I believe he started with two plastic and lightweight drums. ?Then cut off the ends of the drums. ?What’s left is a plastic cylinder sleeve. ?Put the sleeve on a dolly platform, fill the inside of the sleeve with a properly sized bag, and fill the bag with chips. ?When it’s full, lift the sleeve vertically off the bag, and you’re left with a full bag of chips on a dolly. ? ?How’d I do Mac?

David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best



On Mar 17, 2024, at 3:58?AM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

Hey Mac.

I’m not sure if I follow your description. Would you mind sending some photos? That sounds very promising.?

On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 10:12?PM mac campshure via <mac512002=[email protected]> wrote:
Brian,,,
I cut the bottom off 2 - 60 gallon plastic drums, light to handle.
I put the bag over the sleeve than put the covers on , no need to clamp.
They sit on wheeled dolly drum . I put windows in the sleeve. Than I can see when there filling up.?
When full I lift covers off and pull the sleeve out and take the bag of chips and dispose.?
Mac,,


martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell
Designing and building for 50 years

On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:02?PM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

?
Currently I have a 3.5 HP cyclone dust collector. it is plumbed down to 2 55-gallon drums. For a while this has worked fine for me with a few small issues:

  • In order to ensure the bags don't suck up into the cyclone, I have some ridging lining that I place in the bag, in the drum. This works ok but not great.?
  • Changing the bag is a nightmare.?
  • Despite having a level indicator on one of the drums, it seems to always back up without alerting me.?
So I am considering replacing my cyclone style dust collector with an alternative like an RL160, RL200, or possibly the Harvey Dust Extractor.

Does anyone have some insight about the felder dust collectors?

-Brian




Re: RL200 vs Cyclone style dust collectorn

 

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Mac and I have discussed this before. ?I believe he started with two plastic and lightweight drums. ?Then cut off the ends of the drums. ?What’s left is a plastic cylinder sleeve. ?Put the sleeve on a dolly platform, fill the inside of the sleeve with a properly sized bag, and fill the bag with chips. ?When it’s full, lift the sleeve vertically off the bag, and you’re left with a full bag of chips on a dolly. ? ?How’d I do Mac?

David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best



On Mar 17, 2024, at 3:58?AM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

Hey Mac.

I’m not sure if I follow your description. Would you mind sending some photos? That sounds very promising.?

On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 10:12?PM mac campshure via <mac512002=[email protected]> wrote:
Brian,,,
I cut the bottom off 2 - 60 gallon plastic drums, light to handle.
I put the bag over the sleeve than put the covers on , no need to clamp.
They sit on wheeled dolly drum . I put windows in the sleeve. Than I can see when there filling up.?
When full I lift covers off and pull the sleeve out and take the bag of chips and dispose.?
Mac,,


martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell
Designing and building for 50 years

On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:02?PM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

?
Currently I have a 3.5 HP cyclone dust collector. it is plumbed down to 2 55-gallon drums. For a while this has worked fine for me with a few small issues:

  • In order to ensure the bags don't suck up into the cyclone, I have some ridging lining that I place in the bag, in the drum. This works ok but not great.?
  • Changing the bag is a nightmare.?
  • Despite having a level indicator on one of the drums, it seems to always back up without alerting me.?
So I am considering replacing my cyclone style dust collector with an alternative like an RL160, RL200, or possibly the Harvey Dust Extractor.

Does anyone have some insight about the felder dust collectors?

-Brian