Re: Fusion 360 vs. Solidworks for Makers
I got the same notice this morning. ?One really has to admire how this team has evolved a product that started out as a 3D conceptual design tool for the iPad. ?I look forward to beta testing it, and I’ve already posted some feedback on product feature requests. ?The one aspect they didn’t speak about is an Assembly module - which I assume isn’t part of this, but would be an almost necessary addition to serve many woodworking applications. ?What appeared to me originally as a product weakness (how sketches are associated with components) looks to be evolving in a way that will certainly ease the “missing reference” and timeline breaking issues.
I really admire their dedication to making the user interface intuitive and less complex. ?This aspect is certainly NOT in the wheelhouse of AutoDesk. ?I remember working with the first release of AutoCad and seeing a command line interface where you had to enter commands like “Draw Line 4.5667x70.000 to 5.750x72.000”. ?It took them seven years to come up with any type of visual UI. ?And while I don’t mind the UI in Fusion 360, I have to say that its complexity adds significantly to the learning curve.
It will be interesting to see if AutoDesk has any reaction to this. ?If I were product manager there, I’d be angling to evolve the product into separate but compatible products aimed at particular vertical markets (CNC Machining, Sheet Metal, Plastics, Electronics, Woodworking) appropriately priced to be within reach of the small shop. ?But I’m not holding my breath.
David Best
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On Jul 6, 2023, at 10:23 AM, Larry Long Neck <longneckwood@...> wrote:
Just got an email from Shapr3d.. they are adding parametric features with history based timeline this year. Will be interesting to see how this unfolds?https://www.shapr3d.com/2023-summer-product-tour
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Re: Fusion 360 vs. Solidworks for Makers
Just got an email from Shapr3d.. they are adding parametric features with history based timeline this year. Will be interesting to see how this unfolds?https://www.shapr3d.com/2023-summer-product-tour
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Larry Long Neck
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Wide Bandmill components FS- OT
I had plans to build a bandmill based on the excellent design by Matt Cremona.? ?The mill as design will cut 6 feet wide.? The plans were about a hundred dollars when I bought them.? Matt has plenty of videos of the mill in use.? Caution: infectious videos...
Given that I likely have enough wood for the remainder of my life and because I've spent the past 3 years bringing my shoulders back from a rough state, I've decided to sell the components rather than build the mill.
The components are as follows (new and unused unless noted):
1) Two sets of Thompson linear rails and bearings for vertical attachment of saw head.? 45mm wide rails, 2150mm long.
2) Two sets of THK 45mm rails/ bearings for blade guides. One rail is 810mm, the other 780mm long.
3) 20 hp 3 phase Baldor Super E drive motor (Cem4106T). Split bushing included.?
4) Drive pulley for saw head.
5) Saw head lift motor.? 3 hp, 3 phase Marathon motor with speed reducer and chain drive.? Used, but tested.? Works well.? No motor controls included.?
6)? Allen Bradley Motor starter (size 2 or 3).? Used, but tested.? Works well.? Push button remote and Overloads needed.
Price is 4000.? I can deliver a properly prepared skid to a freight terminal.? I get a reasonable freight discount from DM Transportation (broker).
I can provide photos upon request.?
Also available separately is a 3 ton, 3 phase chain hoist with trolley if interested.?
Marlowe McGraw?
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I received my Profil 45 Z with the Aigner Integral fence and high-speed spindle one month ago.? While I haven't used it yet I found the same lifting issue as you.? Moving the fence as far to the rear helps substantially.? Pushing up on the overhead fence assembly rather the using the lift handle makes it easier and is more convenient too.? As far as the difficulty related to pulling the pin while lifting the fence goes, I found pulling the pin before the lift and slipping a thin piece of metal in front of the pin eliminated that issue.? But you must remove the metal before letting go of the fence!? I have a string attached to the metal to do this.
On my machine the distance between the center of the collet and the fence is 5/8" with the fence moved all the way to the rear.??
On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 09:03:46 AM EDT, Richard Stevens via groups.io <richard.stevens@...> wrote:
Brian, for some weird reason I do recall a long time ago someone jerry rigging a block and tackle setup to help lift the shaper hood on the Profil 45. ?Easily ten or more years ago. ?
I have the Profil 45 also and CAN vouch for the fact that it is a mother of a hood to lift whilst also pulling the pin. ?I’m not exactly physically compromised and have had troubles with it since day 1. ?The air jack isn’t powerful enough to help lift it. Perhaps a bigger one is warranted. Truth be told the entire hood is badly designed. My son who is professional woodworker raised this with the Felder techs at either Ligna or Holzhandwerk shows in Germany last year and they (Felder) conceded the entire hood is flawed.
My other beef with the hood is that with the Aigner Integral fence I can’t use the high speed spindle coz the fence is much thicker than the standard Felder aluminium plates and the fence can’t be moved far back enough to run router bits. So, a $2000 high speed spindle is of zero use. If some one has a work around for this, I’d love to hear about it.?
Richard Stevens
melbourne, Australia.?
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Re: Storage idea for sliders
I watched that video as well, stopped the vid, ran out to the C3, took off an endcap, same construction apparently as his K3.? Left a comment at YT, awesome idea. ;-)
I have a couple of his ZCI's also.? They are well built, work good.....
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Brian, for some weird reason I do recall a long time ago someone jerry rigging a block and tackle setup to help lift the shaper hood on the Profil 45. ?Easily ten or more years ago. ?
I have the Profil 45 also and CAN vouch for the fact that it is a mother of a hood to lift whilst also pulling the pin. ?I’m not exactly physically compromised and have had troubles with it since day 1. ?The air jack isn’t powerful enough to help lift it. Perhaps a bigger one is warranted. Truth be told the entire hood is badly designed. My son who is professional woodworker raised this with the Felder techs at either Ligna or Holzhandwerk shows in Germany last year and they (Felder) conceded the entire hood is flawed.
My other beef with the hood is that with the Aigner Integral fence I can’t use the high speed spindle coz the fence is much thicker than the standard Felder aluminium plates and the fence can’t be moved far back enough to run router bits. So, a $2000 high speed spindle is of zero use. If some one has a work around for this, I’d love to hear about it.?
Richard Stevens
melbourne, Australia.?
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Just watched this vid from Ramon Valdez and thought there may be some interest in this storage idea he has for a very sneaky drawer in your slider:??
That is of course if you don't have air hoses blocking that cavity!
A few other interesting ideas in the vid but the link goes to this particular storage tip/idea.
Cheers
David
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Re: AD941 installing fence support bar
Brian,
You’re right, just doesn’t seem right doing it the other way. ?
Thx,
Wade
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On Jul 5, 2023, at 8:25 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
? Well tech isn’t quite right, the cast iron sits between #13 and #4, both spherical washers, #12 and #13 always go together on the same side. Other than that, the picture is what you want.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com
On Jul 5, 2023, at 6:49 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hello FOG,
A Felder Tech sent me this regarding the support bar hardware orientation install. ?A bit interesting to me. ?Didn’t see this being a possible layout.
“Here's the schematic for your machine. ? Look at the box enclosing the parts for the AD941. ?You can see the spacer is included in your machine. ?The cast iron would go between part numbers 12 and 13. ?I don't see the large washers anywhere. ?Perhaps they are for a different machine that uses some of the same parts and they made a generic set up for a few machines to use almost the same hardware but they included all the parts for them all. ?I would follow the schematics for the AD941 machine to be sure you are correct.”
On Jul 1, 2023, at 5:39 AM, andy.pickler@... wrote:
?I just received my AD941, and this is what I did (not that it is correct). I used the spacers to ensure a consistent distance for both the left and right attachment points, and I figured that would better ensure that the jointer fence was perpendicular to the cutterhead. I did not use the big washers on the backside but rather the two washers ("ball socket 1" and "ball socket 2") that have one side each that is concave/convex and fit effectively "inside" each other. <IMG_3444.jpeg> <IMG_3443.jpeg>
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Re: AD941 installing fence support bar
Well tech isn’t quite right, the cast iron sits between #13 and #4, both spherical washers, #12 and #13 always go together on the same side. Other than that, the picture is what you want.
Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com
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On Jul 5, 2023, at 6:49 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Hello FOG,
A Felder Tech sent me this regarding the support bar hardware orientation install. ?A bit interesting to me. ?Didn’t see this being a possible layout.
“Here's the schematic for your machine. ? Look at the box enclosing the parts for the AD941. ?You can see the spacer is included in your machine. ?The cast iron would go between part numbers 12 and 13. ?I don't see the large washers anywhere. ?Perhaps they are for a different machine that uses some of the same parts and they made a generic set up for a few machines to use almost the same hardware but they included all the parts for them all. ?I would follow the schematics for the AD941 machine to be sure you are correct.”
On Jul 1, 2023, at 5:39 AM, andy.pickler@... wrote:
?I just received my AD941, and this is what I did (not that it is correct). I used the spacers to ensure a consistent distance for both the left and right attachment points, and I figured that would better ensure that the jointer fence was perpendicular to the cutterhead. I did not use the big washers on the backside but rather the two washers ("ball socket 1" and "ball socket 2") that have one side each that is concave/convex and fit effectively "inside" each other. <IMG_3444.jpeg> <IMG_3443.jpeg>
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Re: AD941 installing fence support bar
? Hello FOG,
A Felder Tech sent me this regarding the support bar hardware orientation install. ?A bit interesting to me. ?Didn’t see this being a possible layout.
“Here's the schematic for your machine. ? Look at the box enclosing the parts for the AD941. ?You can see the spacer is included in your machine. ?The cast iron would go between part numbers 12 and 13. ?I don't see the large washers anywhere. ?Perhaps they are for a different machine that uses some of the same parts and they made a generic set up for a few machines to use almost the same hardware but they included all the parts for them all. ?I would follow the schematics for the AD941 machine to be sure you are correct.”
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On Jul 1, 2023, at 5:39 AM, andy.pickler@... wrote:
?I just received my AD941, and this is what I did (not that it is correct). I used the spacers to ensure a consistent distance for both the left and right attachment points, and I figured that would better ensure that the jointer fence was perpendicular to the cutterhead. I did not use the big washers on the backside but rather the two washers ("ball socket 1" and "ball socket 2") that have one side each that is concave/convex and fit effectively "inside" each other. <IMG_3444.jpeg> <IMG_3443.jpeg>
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I used to have an Oakley stroke sander with a 10' bed. Over 15' long overall. They are fantastic machines and very versatile, but I couldn't justify the real estate for the amount of use it got. I was the only one in the shop trained on one. Had to remover the veneer from a piece of MDF core sheet stock consistently. Fun test.? Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Joe, the finish off of your Kundig is pretty impressive...
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On Jul 4, 2023, at 6:02 PM, Joe Calhoon via groups.io <joecalhoon@...> wrote:
Mac, I used a Samco lever stroke sander for 12 years before getting a WBS. A lot of feel and skill to run but the finish as good or better than my Kundig. Had a woman employee that mastered it better than any one else.
Would have kept it but takes real estate.
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Mac, I used a Samco lever stroke sander for 12 years before getting a WBS. A lot of feel and skill to run but the finish as good or better than my Kundig. Had a woman employee that mastered it better than any one else.
Would have kept it but takes real estate.
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Re: Riff sawn / slip match oak ply
I agree with Jason Saunders veneer is a good place to start Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jul 3, 2023, at 2:19 PM, Andy <andy.raynor08@...> wrote:
? I’m in the northeast (probably should have mentioned that), I’ve tried a few local places but have come up empty so far. I’be got some feelers out and hope to hear back after people get back into work from the holiday.?
I’ve got a call into Atlantic plywood as well.?
I might have to get some shipped in - I’ll give Amy a call if I get stuck.? ?
On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 2:26 PM Jason Holtz < jholtzy@...> wrote: Where are you located Andy? I work extensively with Sauders Veneer Specialties in Wisconsin. They will make whatever you need. How many sheets are you talking about? Amy Smith is my contact there if you want to give her a call.
Jason Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
612 432-2765
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I the early days say 1900 up after you learned to sweep floors proper than your next job was running stroke sander tough upper body work out and also required a bit of coordination. Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jul 4, 2023, at 5:28 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:
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Well, my edge sander is equally lack lustre compared to your beauty! So we’re just even. ?
That's a beauty Lucky! Our disc sander and spindle sander are very lackluster in comparison.
Jason
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765
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PK, You got the message! It is always fun to spend someone else’s money! ?
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What about stoke sanders in fine furniture shops there is always one.
If you are into sanding with the long belt ?they provide a nice finish fast and don’t lift the grain?
In the hands of a skilled worker they are awesome .
Designing and building for 50 years
On Jul 4, 2023, at 12:45 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Joel,
I am excited to see your shop.
The one advantage of the Rehnen is that the dust collection is built into the castings.? I saw it at IWF and the dust seemed well controlled.
 
PK
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Well, my edge sander is equally lack lustre compared to your beauty! So we’re just even. ?
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That's a beauty Lucky! Our disc sander and spindle sander are very lackluster in comparison.
Jason
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765
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J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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What about stoke sanders in fine furniture shops there is always one. If you are into sanding with the long belt ?they provide a nice finish fast and don’t lift the grain? In the hands of a skilled worker they are awesome . Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jul 4, 2023, at 12:45 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Joel, I am excited to see your shop. The one advantage of the Rehnen is that the dust collection is built into the castings.? I saw it at IWF and the dust seemed well controlled. PK
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Joel, I am excited to see your shop. The one advantage of the Rehnen is that the dust collection is built into the castings.? I saw it at IWF and the dust seemed well controlled. PK
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On OSS, I have a friend with one of these massive edge sanders. ?Wow what a dust cloud maker but he likes being able to have long boards in contact with the sandpaper at once, especially to make a slight taper. ?I like the edge sander design that has the jointer like function where you can sand the edge of infinite long boards by pushing the board along the table and adjust the amount of removal. ?Machines of this design seem way easier to have good dust collection. ?I see that on the Kundig, Langzauner and others... example being one of the Baleigh sanders, but with the Baleigh I do not think there is a way to auto feed the wood. ?I know very little about the Baleigh. ?
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David P. Best
Larry Long Neck
Jason Holtz
David Luckensmeyer
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