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Hi all, I used to own a 2012 model hammer c31 combo unit and I remember the electric motor of the table saw used to applying an electronic break buzzing sound to slow the blade to a complete stop, as my n4400 bandsaw currently has as well. ?I no longer own that 2012 model, my current model is a 2016 and everything else is the same but the table saw doesn¡¯t apply an electric brake when I turn it off. The helical head and router spindle does but the tablesaw slows down eventually there¡¯s no buzzing sound
do others find the same? Is it supposed to have one consistently across the range of products and I should be raising it as a fault with Felder directly or it¡¯s not common across all hammer motors?
I just thought it would have one given an older saw used to but this is not the case
thanks for any advice
Nathan?
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Re: A3-31 setup and calibration
So I¡¯ve gotten the outfeed leveled and set .031¡± above the cutterhead. The problem when I do that is the infeed loses the majority of its travel and now has a height adjustment of only 0 - .09¡±. Beyond that the height adjustment bottoms out at the end of its travel. I¡¯m sure there¡¯s something I screwed up adjusting the outfeed but I haven¡¯t figured it out yet.?
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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Btw, if successful in identifying and procuring said adjustable groover for circular saws, a Forrest dado stack will be available¡. 8¡±
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On May 19, 2023, at 7:56 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
Primarily for cutting grooves (dados) in solid stock for furniture work. ?My spouse is looking for an anniversary present for me. ?The Forrest stack is ok, but the adjustability of the width of the groove is a pain in the ass. ?I have adjustable groovers for the shaper on CF741. ?I want to be able to set my dado up like David Best! ?Budget is less that 1.2k. ?I¡¯d hoped to buy the groover that was listed above but no luck for a deal¡
Mike On May 19, 2023, at 7:41 PM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
Mike, Can you comment a bit on your budget for the groover and your intended ?application? ?That would help narrow the alternatives. David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
On May 19, 2023, at 6:37 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
Thanks everyone. ?I have a Forrest dado stack; what I want is an adjustable groover for the saw. ?Any options other than Felder?
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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Primarily for cutting grooves (dados) in solid stock for furniture work. ?My spouse is looking for an anniversary present for me. ?The Forrest stack is ok, but the adjustability of the width of the groove is a pain in the ass. ?I have adjustable groovers for the shaper on CF741. ?I want to be able to set my dado up like David Best! ?Budget is less that 1.2k. ?I¡¯d hoped to buy the groover that was listed above but no luck for a deal¡
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On May 19, 2023, at 7:41 PM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
Mike, Can you comment a bit on your budget for the groover and your intended ?application? ?That would help narrow the alternatives.
David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
On May 19, 2023, at 6:37 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
Thanks everyone. ?I have a Forrest dado stack; what I want is an adjustable groover for the saw. ?Any options other than Felder?
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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Mike, Can you comment a bit on your budget for the groover and your intended ?application? ?That would help narrow the alternatives.
David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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On May 19, 2023, at 6:37 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
Thanks everyone. ?I have a Forrest dado stack; what I want is an adjustable groover for the saw. ?Any options other than Felder?
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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Thanks everyone. ?I have a Forrest dado stack; what I want is an adjustable groover for the saw. ?Any options other than Felder?
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On May 19, 2023, at 5:04 PM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
I have a CMT dado stack purchased from Scott&Sargent. After I bought it a felder dado set came up for sale, which I bought. Anyhow, I have it for sale on FB.
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On May 19, 2023, at 6:28 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
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Bummer. ?The dado has been sold. ?Felder is claiming 6-8 weeks for delivery. ?Any other sources other than Felder?
On May 19, 2023, at 2:54 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:
Hi Steve:
Theoretically there¡¯s no problem mounting the dado on your shaper spindle. There are no downsides in terms of safety or cutting quality. Just run the shaper on a lower speed. In practice, it will depend on the capacity of your particular shaper.
Does your shaper hood accept 228mm diameter cutter heads? And does your below table space allow a 228mm cutter head to lower ¡°enough¡±? It is not just the table opening diameter of your shaper, but also any other protrusions that might stop you lowering (or
tilting) such a big cutter. Hope this is helpful.?
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
Not to hijack this thread, but I pose a question for the group:
I'm still familiarizing myself with shaper cutters and operation...Would this dado set be compatible with a 30mm spindle shaper for grooving? And if so are there any downsides to using such large diameter tooling, versus something more standard such as 160mm
diameter?
Thank you,
Steve
Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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I second the ridge carbide set, very good quality cut with no tear out on cross-cuts in prefinished maple?
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On May 19, 2023, at 7:40 PM, Andy <andy.raynor08@...> wrote:
? I have a ridge carbide dado set it can be stamped for a Felder unit. Very nice flat bottom.? Bummer.? The dado has been sold.? Felder is claiming 6-8 weeks for delivery.? Any other sources other than Felder? On May 19, 2023, at 2:54 PM, David Luckensmeyer < dhluckens@...> wrote:
Hi Steve:
Theoretically there¡¯s no problem mounting the dado on your shaper spindle. There are no downsides in terms of safety or cutting quality. Just run the shaper on a lower speed. In practice, it will depend on the capacity of your particular shaper.
Does your shaper hood accept 228mm diameter cutter heads? And does your below table space allow a 228mm cutter head to lower ¡°enough¡±? It is not just the table opening diameter of your shaper, but also any other protrusions that might stop you lowering (or
tilting) such a big cutter. Hope this is helpful.?
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
Not to hijack this thread, but I pose a question for the group:
I'm still familiarizing myself with shaper cutters and operation...Would this dado set be compatible with a 30mm spindle shaper for grooving? And if so are there any downsides to using such large diameter tooling, versus something more standard such as 160mm
diameter?
Thank you,
Steve
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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I have a ridge carbide dado set it can be stamped for a Felder unit. Very nice flat bottom.?
Bummer.? The dado has been sold.? Felder is claiming 6-8 weeks for delivery.? Any other sources other than Felder? On May 19, 2023, at 2:54 PM, David Luckensmeyer < dhluckens@...> wrote:
Hi Steve:
Theoretically there¡¯s no problem mounting the dado on your shaper spindle. There are no downsides in terms of safety or cutting quality. Just run the shaper on a lower speed. In practice, it will depend on the capacity of your particular shaper.
Does your shaper hood accept 228mm diameter cutter heads? And does your below table space allow a 228mm cutter head to lower ¡°enough¡±? It is not just the table opening diameter of your shaper, but also any other protrusions that might stop you lowering (or
tilting) such a big cutter. Hope this is helpful.?
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
Not to hijack this thread, but I pose a question for the group:
I'm still familiarizing myself with shaper cutters and operation...Would this dado set be compatible with a 30mm spindle shaper for grooving? And if so are there any downsides to using such large diameter tooling, versus something more standard such as 160mm
diameter?
Thank you,
Steve
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
#forsale
I have a CMT dado stack purchased from Scott&Sargent. After I bought it a felder dado set came up for sale, which I bought. Anyhow, I have it for sale on FB.
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On May 19, 2023, at 6:28 PM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
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Bummer. ?The dado has been sold. ?Felder is claiming 6-8 weeks for delivery. ?Any other sources other than Felder?
On May 19, 2023, at 2:54 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:
Hi Steve:
Theoretically there¡¯s no problem mounting the dado on your shaper spindle. There are no downsides in terms of safety or cutting quality. Just run the shaper on a lower speed. In practice, it will depend on the capacity of your particular shaper.
Does your shaper hood accept 228mm diameter cutter heads? And does your below table space allow a 228mm cutter head to lower ¡°enough¡±? It is not just the table opening diameter of your shaper, but also any other protrusions that might stop you lowering (or
tilting) such a big cutter. Hope this is helpful.?
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
Not to hijack this thread, but I pose a question for the group:
I'm still familiarizing myself with shaper cutters and operation...Would this dado set be compatible with a 30mm spindle shaper for grooving? And if so are there any downsides to using such large diameter tooling, versus something more standard such as 160mm
diameter?
Thank you,
Steve
Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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I'll second the forrest dado as a good option, though I only run it on the saw arbor, not the shaper. There is quite a long wait for forrest stuff right now - up to 2 - 3 months according to their web site and both the 6 and 8 inch dado stacks are sold out on the other web sites I've sourced from.
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I bought a Forrest Dado King for my saw. It is a conventional dado stack, but drilled for the Felder. It seems there was some lead time involved, but I do not remember how long it took.
It seems to work. You will see the grooves the nickers leave.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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Bummer. ?The dado has been sold. ?Felder is claiming 6-8 weeks for delivery. ?Any other sources other than Felder?
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On May 19, 2023, at 2:54 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:
Hi Steve:
Theoretically there¡¯s no problem mounting the dado on your shaper spindle. There are no downsides in terms of safety or cutting quality. Just run the shaper on a lower speed. In practice, it will depend on the capacity of your particular shaper.
Does your shaper hood accept 228mm diameter cutter heads? And does your below table space allow a 228mm cutter head to lower ¡°enough¡±? It is not just the table opening diameter of your shaper, but also any other protrusions that might stop you lowering (or
tilting) such a big cutter. Hope this is helpful.?
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
Not to hijack this thread, but I pose a question for the group:
I'm still familiarizing myself with shaper cutters and operation...Would this dado set be compatible with a 30mm spindle shaper for grooving? And if so are there any downsides to using such large diameter tooling, versus something more standard such as 160mm
diameter?
Thank you,
Steve
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
#forsale
Hi Steve:
Theoretically there¡¯s no problem mounting the dado on your shaper spindle. There are no downsides in terms of safety or cutting quality. Just run the shaper on a lower speed. In practice, it will depend on the capacity of your particular shaper.
Does your shaper hood accept 228mm diameter cutter heads? And does your below table space allow a 228mm cutter head to lower ¡°enough¡±? It is not just the table opening diameter of your shaper, but also any other protrusions that might stop you lowering (or
tilting) such a big cutter. Hope this is helpful.?
Warm regards,
Lucky
Dr David Luckensmeyer
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Show quoted text
Not to hijack this thread, but I pose a question for the group:
I'm still familiarizing myself with shaper cutters and operation...Would this dado set be compatible with a 30mm spindle shaper for grooving? And if so are there any downsides to using such large diameter tooling, versus something more standard such as 160mm
diameter?
Thank you,
Steve
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
#forsale
This has been sold. Thanks all for your interest.?
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In Canada, Ultimate Tools in BC and Atlas Tools & Machinery started selling Mafell tools in March, 2023.
It appears Mafell's pricing in Canada is cheaper than Timberwolf based on the exchange rate.
85 track saw is C$1731 = US$1281
James
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 10:19?AM Patrick Kane < pwk5017@...> wrote: I know Mafell sells their tools in the UK market with the motors wired for 110/120v. The hertz is obviously different than American power supplies, but I did a deep dive on this last year and couldnt?ascertain whether the 10hz difference makes a damn bit of difference. They run a bit quicker on the US power, but unless you are running a saw for hours on end, it doesnt seem like you are overheating the motor or damaging it. Lastly, I saw images of guys that took apart their Timberwolf imported Mafell tools and the motor plates were marked "110/120v and 50/60hz". I think Mafell warranties their tools for 3-5 years, and i imagine they wouldnt stand behind that warranty if they knew their motors would cook on north american power supply. In a year, i havent noticed any issues using the tools on my residential power.?
Without Timerwolf Tools massive price hike, i think Mafell's products are comparable to Festool's pricing. The part that throws the balance out of whack is the NA price hike. Here is a real quick price comparison of the 85 track saw. Timberwolf is $1,670 before tax. UK outfit is $1,216 before tax. Timberwolf wont warranty your Euro purchased Mafell tools, so if you have an issue you are on the hook for shipping it overseas. Buyer beware on that front.?
Patrick
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:56?AM Tom Gensmer < tom@...> wrote: David Sabo,?
Fortunately, Timberwolf Tools will import any Mafell tool into North America, so there's no NAINA syndrome like there is with Festool. Like you say though, not sure if we'll see a 120V version....?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
#forsale
Not to hijack this thread, but I pose a question for the group:
I'm still familiarizing myself with shaper cutters and operation...Would this dado set be compatible with a 30mm spindle shaper for grooving? And if so are there any downsides to using such large diameter tooling, versus something more standard such as 160mm diameter?
Thank you,
Steve
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I have a few shop hand helds that are 220 v German of course Designing and building for 50 years
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On May 19, 2023, at 9:19 AM, Patrick Kane <pwk5017@...> wrote:
? I know Mafell sells their tools in the UK market with the motors wired for 110/120v. The hertz is obviously different than American power supplies, but I did a deep dive on this last year and couldnt?ascertain whether the 10hz difference makes a damn bit of difference. They run a bit quicker on the US power, but unless you are running a saw for hours on end, it doesnt seem like you are overheating the motor or damaging it. Lastly, I saw images of guys that took apart their Timberwolf imported Mafell tools and the motor plates were marked "110/120v and 50/60hz". I think Mafell warranties their tools for 3-5 years, and i imagine they wouldnt stand behind that warranty if they knew their motors would cook on north american power supply. In a year, i havent noticed any issues using the tools on my residential power.?
Without Timerwolf Tools massive price hike, i think Mafell's products are comparable to Festool's pricing. The part that throws the balance out of whack is the NA price hike. Here is a real quick price comparison of the 85 track saw. Timberwolf is $1,670 before tax. UK outfit is $1,216 before tax. Timberwolf wont warranty your Euro purchased Mafell tools, so if you have an issue you are on the hook for shipping it overseas. Buyer beware on that front.?
Patrick On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:56?AM Tom Gensmer < tom@...> wrote: David Sabo,?
Fortunately, Timberwolf Tools will import any Mafell tool into North America, so there's no NAINA syndrome like there is with Festool. Like you say though, not sure if we'll see a 120V version....?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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I know Mafell sells their tools in the UK market with the motors wired for 110/120v. The hertz is obviously different than American power supplies, but I did a deep dive on this last year and couldnt?ascertain whether the 10hz difference makes a damn bit of difference. They run a bit quicker on the US power, but unless you are running a saw for hours on end, it doesnt seem like you are overheating the motor or damaging it. Lastly, I saw images of guys that took apart their Timberwolf imported Mafell tools and the motor plates were marked "110/120v and 50/60hz". I think Mafell warranties their tools for 3-5 years, and i imagine they wouldnt stand behind that warranty if they knew their motors would cook on north american power supply. In a year, i havent noticed any issues using the tools on my residential power.?
Without Timerwolf Tools massive price hike, i think Mafell's products are comparable to Festool's pricing. The part that throws the balance out of whack is the NA price hike. Here is a real quick price comparison of the 85 track saw. Timberwolf is $1,670 before tax. UK outfit is $1,216 before tax. Timberwolf wont warranty your Euro purchased Mafell tools, so if you have an issue you are on the hook for shipping it overseas. Buyer beware on that front.?
Patrick
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:56?AM Tom Gensmer < tom@...> wrote: David Sabo,?
Fortunately, Timberwolf Tools will import any Mafell tool into North America, so there's no NAINA syndrome like there is with Festool. Like you say though, not sure if we'll see a 120V version....?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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303 Stainless Steel T-Slot Nuts
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I'm a new member here so I wanted to introduce myself. My name is Tom Chisam ( info@...). I have a small machine shop in Southern California and have done prototype?work for several Felder owners including manufacturing 303 stainless steel T-Slot Nuts (see photos below).?
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After several prototypes and feedback from other owners, the M10838 T-Slot Nut was developed and I ran 90 units available through?my website. I wanted to let the community know given the demand and positive feedback from other?members in this group.
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If you want more information, feel free to email me at?info@...?or visit my website,?. Use product code "FelderOwners"?for a discount.
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David Sabo,?
Fortunately, Timberwolf Tools will import any Mafell tool into North America, so there's no NAINA syndrome like there is with Festool. Like you say though, not sure if we'll see a 120V version....?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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David P. Best
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imran
David Luckensmeyer
TBC Manufacturing
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