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Re: Airtight Clamps on a K700S

 

K940s Lowered the handle and fit both connections on the right side. Added benefit, long t nuts can now slide directly in the end over the handle. These clamps are a must have for anyone impatient.


Now if only there was an add on to lock the sliding ?table in any position for sheet loading I¡¯d be a happy camper.?


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Mike B


Re: Overhead saw guard question

 

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Brian is right, remove the other cover as well. It¡¯s been awhile since i did it¡­

Regards, Mark

On Mar 17, 2022, at 12:52 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

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¡°?Steve Lyde
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I have that same guard ordered for my K700S. It¡¯s nice to have little nuggets like this tucked away just in case I run into the same problem.¡±

This user group is great! There are so many very knowledgeable people ready and willing to help out! I am just making the transition from a cabinet saw to a slider, and have learned so much just from reading these posts.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


Re: Overhead saw guard question

 

¡°?Steve Lyde
8:11am???

I have that same guard ordered for my K700S. It¡¯s nice to have little nuggets like this tucked away just in case I run into the same problem.¡±

This user group is great! There are so many very knowledgeable people ready and willing to help out! I am just making the transition from a cabinet saw to a slider, and have learned so much just from reading these posts.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


Re: Overhead saw guard question

 

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Those posts are eccentric. I assume you have to loosen the side opposite what we see in the picture and rotate the posts will change the placement of the bearings.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:37 AM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

It seems my guard is slightly different. There are three roller bearings and a spring that applies pressure to the plastic bearing guides.

The ends of the posts have eccentric threaded holes, but it looks like the bearings are not on eccentric shafts.

One of the posts has no function other than to hold the cover over the guard.

I reduced the pressure on the spring to the point that it just barely keeps from dropping when I release the guard. It is much better now - still stiff and not very smooth acting, but now I can move it with one hand while leaning over the outrigger.

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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


Re: Overhead saw guard question

 

It seems my guard is slightly different. There are three roller bearings and a spring that applies pressure to the plastic bearing guides.

The ends of the posts have eccentric threaded holes, but it looks like the bearings are not on eccentric shafts.

One of the posts has no function other than to hold the cover over the guard.

I reduced the pressure on the spring to the point that it just barely keeps from dropping when I release the guard. It is much better now - still stiff and not very smooth acting, but now I can move it with one hand while leaning over the outrigger.


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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


Re: F & F versus Parallel Guide

 

I just recalibrated my last night using a machinist setup block. My mfd sub fence ends are cut off by the blade and using the setup block flush to the end on both Fritz and Franz I move the stops, tighten the white thumb screws to engage the Incra racks ( metric on my setup) and then loosen the two black knobs to fine adjust the stops.?


Re: Airtight Clamps on a K700S

 

My switch configuration is different and did not lend itself to the treatments I've seen before. So here is what I came up with, which worked out very well and didn't require anything other than drilling the end plates and the tray. - just in case anyone out there with my configuration is scratching their head, as I did for a while!


Re: F & F versus Parallel Guide

 

I love my F&F with the Incra flip fences in metric (1mm notches to settle against). I the fine adjustment was done with the set screw at the end of the fence rod, then clamped down. I think I get usually within 0.25mm that way, I usually have more play than that in slot alignment into the sliding carriage. Great for smaller cuts. Not good enough?for longer cuts - that's another reason I went to Brain's Lamb Tool Works parallel guides.


On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:34 AM Jeff <jeff.lund.ca@...> wrote:
For the version using the incra fence, how do you setup the jig to make it parallel?? I've built one too and I find it hard to get the fence aligned so the front of the fence and end of the fence are both the same distance away from the blade. The longer the board I'm ripping the more being slightly off leads to a non parallel cut.?



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Brett Wissel
Saint Louis Restoration
1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd)
St Louis, MO 63110

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Re: F & F versus Parallel Guide

 

For the version using the incra fence, how do you setup the jig to make it parallel?? I've built one too and I find it hard to get the fence aligned so the front of the fence and end of the fence are both the same distance away from the blade. The longer the board I'm ripping the more being slightly off leads to a non parallel cut.?


Re: Overhead saw guard question

 

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I have that same guard ordered for my K700S. It¡¯s nice to have little nuggets like this tucked away just in case I run into the same problem.?

Steve Lyde

On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:04 AM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?Thanks, Mark! I will open that up today and try this.


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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


Re: Overhead saw guard question

 

Thanks, Mark! I will open that up today and try this.


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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


Re: Overhead saw guard question

 

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You should be able to use one hand, you need to remove the outer plate and their are 4 adjustable posts that ball bearings are on, they are eccentric. There is a sweet spot and a little trial and error, basically you want it tight enough to hold it at the highest spot without dropping?

Regards, Mark

On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:39 AM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:

?I have the overhead saw guard on my K700S. Moving it up and down seems quite difficult. I need two hands to move it. Is this normal?

I expected that I could simply grab the handle with one hand and adjust the height, but that does not seem to be the case.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


Overhead saw guard question

 

I have the overhead saw guard on my K700S. Moving it up and down seems quite difficult. I need two hands to move it. Is this normal?

I expected that I could simply grab the handle with one hand and adjust the height, but that does not seem to be the case.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022


Re: F & F versus Parallel Guide

 

I use my F & F for smaller cuts. A 1 x 1 x 1 would be perfect. I've cut a piece down to a 1/4" cube without issue, just for fun. I usually don't go much over 2 feet in length, depending on the width. You don't want the board to flex. If it's that thin, I'll clamp the piece.?

But that's just me.
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-- Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with a Hammer


F & F versus Parallel Guide

 

It occurred to me today, as I answered a question about ripping on a slider at WoodCentral forum, to re-post my reply here. Recently there was a thread on the Fritz and Franz fixture, and my reply must have made it appear that I no longer use one, and have instead moved to a parallel guide. I do have and use a F&F, but mine is a little different, and for reasons which are explained below. Perhaps this post will help others with short stroke K3 sliders.


There are two methods (or two fixtures) to use when ripping on the slider¡¯s wagon. One is a Fritz & Frans jig, and the other is a Parallel Guide.

My slider is a ¡°short stroke¡± Hammer K3. This photo was taken shortly after I received it, about 4 years ago ¡­

There are two features to this K3 that need to be mentioned in connection with ripping.

The reason this is a ¡°short stroke¡± is that the wagon is shorter than most sliders. This one is 1250mm long (although it has a cutting length of 1350mm). The average slider is double this. The reason I chose for a short wagon is that I only work with solid wood and do not rip up sheet goods. If I needed to do so, I would break them down with a circular saw. The K3 has a small footprint, even less that the contractor table saw which lived here for 20 years.

There is an even smaller version, with a 830mm slider. One might imagine that would be too short to rip on, as it may resemble the wagon on (say) a SawStop,
but the fundamental difference is that the slider¡¯s wagon runs about 1¡± (or less) the blade. The table saw runs 6-12¡± and the wagon is only designed fir crosscutting.

The second feature of note on my K3 is that the crosscut fence on the wagon is attached at the start of the wagon. All sliders with full length wagons attach their fences at the far end. The relevance of this is that my slider wagon is set up with some features in reverse - giving it some advantages of a tablesaw.

Here is a video of a Fritz & Franz jig ¡­

The first version of my F&F was used in this way ..

I needed to set up a fence/stop at the end of the wagon ¡­

This proved to be extra work - the F&F jig is intended for rapid use. It occurred to me that, since my K3 wagon was reversed, my F&F also needed to be reversed.

The main crosscut fence has a zero stop for positioning boards, both for crosscutting or ripping ¡­

The other end has a sliding stop, which can be locked down to the track (since we are pushing against it) ¡­

The front has markings to match the crosscut fence ¡­

While this F&F works really well - it is possible to rip 1¡±x1¡±x1¡± safely - I built another fixture for repeated rips and tapers. This is a?parallel guide.

There is a full write up here:

Mike Keinhop built this one ..

This is my version ¡­

Here demonstrating a narrow rip, but it can do wide boards as well as tapered legs ¡­

It may be added that a rip cut can be completed using the rip fence in the same manner as a table saw. This was my earlier post. However, rips off a slider, completed on the wagon, produce glue line joints. A totally different class of cut altogether.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Re: #Rebuilding Felder Router Spindle #rebuilding

 

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??I raised router spindle with shims on bench to align its bearing with shaper spindle and the belt location looks good. Just a visual check.

Called Felder. No known similar issues per the tech. Since, the belt runs fine flipped he suggested I use it that way for a short while and see what happens. It is interesting that it does not chew bottom rib flipped. Maybe I installed it wrong again.

Anyhow, spindle runs fine. I am happy to have a working router spindle. Updated the document in the files section. Just added couple of pics of assembled spindle, so no need to recheck it.

Thanks again to all the help from FOG members.

Imran

On Mar 15, 2022, at 9:11 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

?Well got the top and bottom locknuts from Felder. Tried the spindle and bearings don¡¯t seem to be getting hot but I have an issue with the belt. In another thread where the issues with the spindle were discussed, it was shared that the bottom rib sheared off of the new belt I got from Felder. Well same thing happened with the new belt which was a D&D belt I bought online. I am no longer sure if the first belt was damaged due to bad install.

The belt is tight but the flex seems comparable to the std. shaper spindle. Here are 2 short videos showing how much belt flexes under ~equal pressure. Should I reduce tension on the belts. I will also call felder tomorrow.

How can I determine if there is miss alignment between spindle and motor pulley? As I write this, maybe a measurement comparison of the shaper spindle with router spindle can give me an idea.

BTW, the damaged 8 rib belts appear to run okay if I position the missing rib on top. Not sure, what would be wrong if I just use these belts.

Imran



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Re: Airtight Clamps on a K700S

 

Wade,
I did not have to notch out any aluminum to install mine.
I have a Kappa so it might be different, but I don't think so.
Mac makes a fine product, You might think its pricey but when you get them you will understand why.
It is the best accessory I have ever bought. I was a little confused but Mac jumped on the phone with me and walked me through the install.
You can't ask for more than that.
Glen? ? ?
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 486
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Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road
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LIC # 707507


On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 6:13 PM Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
Steve,

Thank you for the feed back.? Wasn¡¯t aware that cutting away some of the aluminum frame work was a necessary step.? Wonder if this affects any warranty I have on the slider bed.?

Wade

On Mar 16, 2022, at 5:24 PM, Steve Lyde via <stlyde=[email protected]> wrote:

?I installed them on my K700S last summer.? Fantastic accessory that I would now consider essential.?








As you can see I had to cut out some internal aluminum so make room for the fitting but it¡¯s really no big deal to do. I just used a small sawsall, made several cuts and broke your the small pieces then cleaned up a little with a die grinder.?

Steve Lyde

On Mar 16, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:

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Hello FOG members,

I¡¯m considering an investment on a set of Mac¡¯s Airtight Clamps.? I have a new K700S, with a two button, remote switch, configuration at the end of the slider bed. ?(picture attached) ?Does anybody have this exact switch configuration on their K700S and could let me know how your install went.? Any pictures you could share showing the female fittings at this end of your slider would be great.? Along with?any additional comments regarding the use and/or installation of these Clamps.? Much appreciated.

Thx,

Wade


Re: Airtight Clamps on a K700S

 

Wade, Mac¡¯s clamps are an investment but it absolutely is the best accessory I have added. He will send you a drilling template for your model. Mine looks like Steve¡¯s and David Best setup, the fitting don¡¯t have any room to spare but did fit without cutting any webbing. Once you have the clamps you will wonder how you managed without them, I use them on most every cut.?


Re: Airtight Clamps on a K700S

 

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Mark Kessler,

Thank you for sharing. ?Which brand are yours? ?Are your fittings also quick connect style?

Thx,

Wade

On Mar 16, 2022, at 5:46 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

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Mine are not Mac¡¯s. I installed them a little different, my connector has a larger nut then the quick connects and would not fit on the left side (just barely, to close to take a chance) was even tight under the tee slot but works and yes easy to remove clamp as the fitting swivels. I never take them of anyway.


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Regards, Mark

On Mar 16, 2022, at 8:39 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:

?Steve¡¯s setup is identical to my mounting arrangement. ?His switches are different, but the air plumbing is the same.

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David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/


From:?"Steve Lyde via " <stlyde@...>
Subject:?Re: [FOG] Airtight Clamps on a K700S
Date:?March 16, 2022 at 5:24:46 PM PDT

I installed them on my K700S last summer. ?Fantastic accessory that I would now consider essential.?

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