I'm looking for info on the mortising attachment for jointer/planer combos - like the Ad741.
Does anyone have experience with it? Is it meant to be put on and taken off regularly - and is it difficult to do?
I have a small sho, so I would need to take it off for it to be a viable option.
The alternative route would be to get the FD250 - does anyone have experience with that one? I can't find that much info on it online.
Kind regards?
David
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Re: How to Remove Wire from Brake Board Connector
Yes, great for tight spots when the din rail is loaded with slices, 99 percent of the time we and production use a regular ol¡¯ flat head. I like the longer ones like in the pic, ?150 mm as it can reach into a deep cabinet more easily.?
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On Jan 28, 2021, at 1:23 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
? They actually make a tool for that
Try the Square opening with a small flathead, you just push it in and opens up the spring. I don¡¯t have the exact connector at hand but here is the concept?
  ?Insert a paper clip in the small round hole to release spring tension to remove or insert wire.? If you enlarge the image you can see the spring.
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Jerry P
Life is what happens to you when you're making other plans.
"You can observe a lot by watching."? Yogi Berra
-- Dave & Marie Davies
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Re: How to Remove Wire from Brake Board Connector
They actually make a tool for that
Try the Square opening with a small flathead, you just push it in and opens up the spring. I don¡¯t have the exact connector at hand but here is the concept?
  ?Insert a paper clip in the small round hole to release spring tension to remove or insert wire.? If you enlarge the image you can see the spring.
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Jerry P
Life is what happens to you when you're making other plans.
"You can observe a lot by watching."? Yogi Berra
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Felder Panel tilting device for Fat 300S
Does anyone have the FELDER panel tilting device on their FAT 300S or 500S? Does it work as well as it looks? It looks like it would be awesome for moving sheet goods. I might have to see if I could cobble together something to work on my FAT 300.? 
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Re: How to Remove Wire from Brake Board Connector
Try the Square opening with a small flathead, you just push it in and opens up the spring. I don¡¯t have the exact connector at hand but here is the concept?
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On Jan 28, 2021, at 1:05 PM, Jerry P <Jerry-Pac-Man@...> wrote:
?Insert a paper clip in the small round hole to release spring tension to remove or insert wire.? If you enlarge the image you can see the spring.
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Jerry P
Life is what happens to you when you're making other plans.
"You can observe a lot by watching."? Yogi Berra
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Re: How to Remove Wire from Brake Board Connector
Hi Mark,
I have tried pushing in the small round and pushing the little sliver of the spring loaded part back and down with no luck. One would think that the green tabs would do something but I do not want to over do it.
There is another connector for smaller wires. On that there is a slot opening in the rear. When you push the metal in the slot, the silver part pointed to by arrow comes down to push the copper color tab back.
I assume that is what needs to happen. As I write this, I wonder if the wire goes between silver top part and copper tab on bottom. In that case, I can try pushing under the wire to see if I can push copper tab back. Will try that after lunch.
Imran
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On Jan 28, 2021, at 12:46 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: ? Imran, looks like a small flat head above ?the round where the connector goes On Jan 28, 2021, at 12:40 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? I do not want to force anything but gentle poking has not given me a clue about how to get wires out of this connector. This is the new board:Appreciate any help.Imran<image1.jpeg>
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Re: How to Remove Wire from Brake Board Connector
Imran, looks like a small flat head above ?the round where the connector goes
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? I do not want to force anything but gentle poking has not given me a clue about how to get wires out of this connector. This is the new board:Appreciate any help.Imran
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How to Remove Wire from Brake Board Connector
I do not want to force anything but gentle poking has not given me a clue about how to get wires out of this connector. This is the new board:
Appreciate any help.
Imran
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Thanks Joe, I was told that Chinese made knock-offs are prevalent and that drawings with dimensions are no longer shared with customers.? Ive been calling and asking for information if the sizes and parts from the new model are compatible but nothing yet.
?- Mike
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Sorry I don¡¯t have one.? Can the Felder rep ask if the factory has the design dimensions for the part?? I visited the factory in 2010 and the utilization
of CNC for cutting and folding metal was impressive. I¡¯d think that would be a simple file with dimensions.? The filters are expensive so they are getting a filter sale maybe they would help with the part dimensions?
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On Behalf Of sadyworks@...
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] RL160 Dust tray Dimensions #dustcollection
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Hello all, recently picked up an RL160 from someone who purchased it at an auction with missing parts.? Its from 2007 - It is missing filters and the tray assembly that holds the brushes and filters.? I would be
willing to pay if someone can provide me the dimensions as it looks like I will have to fabricate this part myself.? (I have been in contact with Felder and they are not sure if the new
RL160 tray fits the old RL160 and my rep has suggested I may have to make the part).? Any help is greatly appreciated although I understand if none of you want to unscrew a machine to provide pictures haha.
?- Mike
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Hello all, recently picked up an RL160 from someone who purchased it at an auction with missing parts.? Its from 2007 - It is missing filters and the tray assembly that holds the brushes and filters.? I would be willing to pay if someone can provide me the dimensions as it looks like I will have to fabricate this part myself.? (I have been in contact with Felder and they are not sure if the new RL160 tray fits the old RL160 and my rep has suggested I may have to make the part).? Any help is greatly appreciated although I understand if none of you want to unscrew a machine to provide pictures haha.
?- Mike
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I don't know if that will work or not. I don't believe it will. Explained below.
I wired this back in 2014, so finding some details is harder than it should be. However, this is the relay I bought:
This takes the 120 volt output from the iVac Pro Switch and provides the contact closure to the RL160. The switch you show is 12V, so the iVac Pro Switch would blow it out.
I'm looking for pictures of how the wiring was done inside the RL160. If I still have the photos, they are on a Mac that hasn't been used in five years. I'll let you know what I come up with.
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Re: Felder comfort rolling carriage
#forsale
Hi, I am interested does this fit k700 current model year? Can you share the part numbers??
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Looking in Thingiverse I found this variation on David's version Dave Davies
Like others, I also recently got a 3D printer.? I've mostly used it to print custom hose adapters.? I've posted the STL and open cad files for a 120mm to 4 inch quick connect adapter that I use on my saw and a 80mm hose to 4 inch quick connect that I use to connect the same 4 inch hose to a "tail" of 80mm hose that I leave attached to the shaper dust port.? I modified both from this design on thingverve.?.? You may need to tweak the settings in openscad to get a good fit on your machine based on variances in printers.
I also found this handy sliding table nut for the BF 631 there?
-- Dave & Marie Davies
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Like others, I also recently got a 3D printer.? I've mostly used it to print custom hose adapters.? I've posted the STL and open cad files for a 120mm to 4 inch quick connect adapter that I use on my saw and a 80mm hose to 4 inch quick connect that I use to connect the same 4 inch hose to a "tail" of 80mm hose that I leave attached to the shaper dust port.? I modified both from this design on thingverve.?.? You may need to tweak the settings in openscad to get a good fit on your machine based on variances in printers.
I also found this handy sliding table nut for the BF 631 there?
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Re: Would you buy a combo Shaper/Saw?
We have a 2003 CF741 in our small (15' x 30') shop. ?Use it for remodeling projects (custom fab) that our customers need. ?Has the 7' slider
since we don't cut much plywood. ?Just takes planning to make sure all parts are made before changing settings. ?The Dial
indicators make settings repeatable. ?On larger runs, we use the power feeder.
The router spindle is a must for quick profiles. ?The Felder twin bag dust collector works pretty good too.
It's been a good machine for our use...
Mike
M.E. Blake General Contractors
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Re: Router Spindle and router speeds under load
Joe:
That was my experience using my router spindle on my KF 700; never had an issue with router bits running at 15000 rpm.
Terry
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I posted a few weeks ago that I believed that routers slowed a lot under load. I decide how hard to push my routers based on the pitch the motor makes.? No load and the pitch is high, as the load increases the router slows down and the pitch drops.? I found this article from "American Woodworker" July/August 1993 page 42.? In a plunge router test they built a dynamometer that measured RPM and torque to test each router.? Some had electronic variable speed control which compensates and some did not.? Interestingly all dropped speed quite a bit under load.? Under light to medium load they dropped from rated (max) RPM to between 18,000-20,000 RPM.? Under heavy load they dropped to around 15,000 RPM.? Your the 5 HP motor in my Felder shaper, or the 7.5HP motor in my other Felder shaper no router bit is going to slow the spindle down.? Therefore I maintain that 15,000 RPM for a router spindle in a shaper is not much if a change compared to a router.? especially for any bit one would be likely to run with a router in a router table.? JPG file of the chat from the article attached.
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Re: Would you buy a combo Shaper/Saw?
I also ordered an HS950 Dec 31st and was told they had sold so many of these sanders during the promotion my order was securing a spot in the production line and I have not been provided a delivery estimate. Glad they found a success with a good looking machine at a fair price. Perhaps next year there will be a matching spindle sander or retrofit similar to the higher end model.?
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Router Spindle and router speeds under load
I posted a few weeks ago that I believed that routers slowed a lot under load. I decide how hard to push my routers based on the pitch the motor makes.? No load and the pitch is high, as the load increases the router slows down and the pitch drops.? I found this article from "American Woodworker" July/August 1993 page 42.? In a plunge router test they built a dynamometer that measured RPM and torque to test each router.? Some had electronic variable speed control which compensates and some did not.? Interestingly all dropped speed quite a bit under load.? Under light to medium load they dropped from rated (max) RPM to between 18,000-20,000 RPM.? Under heavy load they dropped to around 15,000 RPM.? Your the 5 HP motor in my Felder shaper, or the 7.5HP motor in my other Felder shaper no router bit is going to slow the spindle down.? Therefore I maintain that 15,000 RPM for a router spindle in a shaper is not much if a change compared to a router.? especially for any bit one would be likely to run with a router in a router table.? JPG file of the chat from the article attached.
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Hi Lucky,
Delay is my middle name, you helped me with getting the air pressure set up correct for the pulse cleaning on my RL 300 Its working great but it is new. I have never got the water set up because there is a shipping screw that I need to remove and I am not sure which one it is and I am too chicken to turn it on because with my luck something will go wrong and my wall starts dont work but I see that coming up in a later post so...
The only other issue like everyone else is the bins don't fill evenly but I may have the fix for that which I will share to all if it works. All and all I like it and I wasted money on gates, Haven't needed to close one of them yet. Best
Glen
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 257 ?????????? Avery, CA. 95224 Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road ????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 650-678-3137 LIC # 707507
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 1:42 PM David Luckensmeyer < dhluckens@...> wrote: Hi Glen:
Apologies for the delayed reply.
My pleasure for whatever help I was able to give. I also have ongoing ¡°issues¡± but overall my RL250 is served well. Over the last week it has not been working ¡ª which is the first time since 2013 that it would not start. In the end, my electrician discovered that the solenoid governing the water-entry for fire suppression was activating, which in turn cuts all power to the machine. So I had to take off multiple panels to try to trace which sensor was acting up. I did not find the sensors, which are in areas outside the dust filter box, but there are two plastic tubes up high in the dust area which seem to be associated with the metal water pipe and sprinkler system. I had a small amount of chips and dust packed hard in this area, covering the tubes. The chips were long and curly (pine) and unusual for me. I immediately thought of the ¡°Red Grandis¡± issues that have been reported on the FOG. Anyway, my RL250 is back up, working imperfectly as always. But I¡¯m delighted with the 7 years of non-stop use, despite the design issues.
Ditto on your positive views about the Kappa 400 X-motion. I love my saw too.
You can have your ¡°music in the heavens¡±. I¡¯m an ACDC ¡°Highway to Hell¡± kind of guy! LOL. Now, about that road trip, David B., when are you coming to Brisbane?!!!! :-)
Take care.
Warm regards,
Lucky
Hi Lucky, First I want to thank you for the help with my dust collector way back, and yes I still have a couple of issues with that. my issues are so minor I haven't dealt with them. I know that some here have had issues with Felder, I have not. I had my machines commissioned twice, again not their fault.California likes to turn off the power when there is a breeze. So they could not finish the commission and came back to complete at a later time at no cost to me. I have called to have them come out again and fix the issues months ago and they said no problem, but with covid and my lack of time on the machines< i have delayed it as is so minor. They have a list of every issue I have with every machine and to be honest half of that list has been eliminated because of the operator being me not knowing enough. My issues:
The rip fence was not parallel to the blade and fixed that but it was late into the night as they wanted to not have to come back but we both forgot to reset the computer to the new setting. I bought the 3rd right hand digital stop pre? David Best recommendation but it is programmed backwards and I found that it does not work with the angle compensation of the fence it sits on the shelf. I will deal with it at some point. Lastly I have a sticky fence stop that the micro adjust does not work good, I'm sure it just needs to be taken apart and cleaned, but I don't really know how and I don't want to pull it off the fence in fear of going through resetting it. I found that I can set it easy without the micro adjustment. Some day I will get these issues fixed as Felder is willing to come up and do it, but on the rip fence, I don't use much. I just add .05 and I am good and the sticky outrigger stop I can set that just as fast without the micro adjust.
Before I had two cabinet saws, A left hand tilt and a right hand tilt and they were good, but the Kappa blows them away. I love this saw.
And last, The screen that lets you program dado cuts so the saw adjusts automatically that I thought I would never use..? Use it all the time and have saved my settings ans so far perfect from job to job.
And to Mark, The flip stops have been fine for me no slop but I don't gang cut.
And I will say again I love this saw and the planer/jointer they are a pleasure to use.
Now if I could only get David Best to make a road trip to dial them as well as his, There would be music in the heavens. HInt, Hint, HInt. Glen
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Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 257 ?????????? Avery, CA. 95224 Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road ????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 650-678-3137 LIC # 707507
Wouldn¡¯t happen to be not square and plumb digital flip stops would it? On Jan 14, 2021, at 10:46 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:
?Hi Glen:
I¡¯d be interested to know what are your ¡°minor issues¡± with the saw? ?I have the Kappa 400 X motion and love it.? I went all digital and at first reluctant but very happy now. I have a couple of minor issues but nothing bad, just haven¡¯t gotten around to getting them fixed.? Glen ?After over 22 yrs. in my hobby shop I am changing things up having ordered my fourth and hopefully last saw. I started out in this shop with a Jet cabinet saw, then after 18 yrs decided to upgrade to a SawStop ICS which was a fine saw until I started investigating sliding crosscut for the SawStop and learned about euro sliding table saws. Unfortunately I didn¡¯t know about this group at that time. Replaced my SawStop with the K500P and was hooked on sliders. I have really enjoyed using the K500 but wanted more, so decided to go through the trouble of buying a bigger Felder with 110¡± slider and all of the digital options. Will also be totally changing my shop layout and have my concrete floors ground down and have an epoxy finish done. I have 20 weeks to prepare for deliver of a Kappa 400 X-motion.? I¡¯ve sold my K500 and it is being picked up in two days. Been busy disassembling everything in preparation for moving day. <21400DDA-961B-4579-82FA-1836E7253D12.jpeg> <E43AE742-5426-4BD8-8C32-F441083C63E7.jpeg> <71E3B4C4-85B5-4EF0-B9A1-0826A1A389ED.jpeg> <C7822B55-83BF-450B-A4B7-4DEFF74E84A2.jpeg> <443E7A74-81FE-4086-BC7F-2E7FCF4166C6.jpeg> <A85AA4DD-0B93-4682-879A-665562785892.jpeg>
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