Re: new to me, benefit of scoring
Imran,
That is a nice study in lines and angles. My KF has scoring.
Mark Foster
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On Nov 20, 2020, at 11:43 AM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
i made these mitered frames to wrap pressure treated porch posts
i made one 45 cut and then instead of setting the xcut fence to the opposing 45, i flipped material 180 lengthwise and made the opposing cut with material upside down. i could not do that with KF700 because it does not have scoring. this is probably a std practice but new for me.
even though miters were perfect i did get occasional height variation on assembly with kreg pocket screws. this is with predrilling the opposite side and best clamping i could do. so not sure if i can improve it any more.
imran
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Re: new to me, benefit of scoring
Hey Imran,
In the face of Kreg-jig-criticism, I must say the grain orientation of your frame is magnificent. It¡¯s quite mesmerising. Thanks for sharing.?
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On 21 Nov 2020, at 6:26 am, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? Imran,
Sell your Kreg pocket jig (I have to say it is a defective?product by design) and buy Castle 110? :)
James On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:43 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: i made these mitered frames to wrap pressure treated porch posts
i made one 45 cut and then instead of setting the xcut fence to the opposing 45, i flipped material 180 lengthwise and made the opposing cut with material upside down. i could not do that with KF700 because it does not have scoring. this is probably a std practice but new for me.
even though miters were perfect i did get occasional height variation on assembly with kreg pocket screws. this is with predrilling the opposite side and best clamping i could do. so not sure if i can improve it any more.
imran
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Re: new to me, benefit of scoring
Imran,
Sell your Kreg pocket jig (I have to say it is a defective?product by design) and buy Castle 110? :)
James
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:43 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: i made these mitered frames to wrap pressure treated porch posts
i made one 45 cut and then instead of setting the xcut fence to the opposing 45, i flipped material 180 lengthwise and made the opposing cut with material upside down. i could not do that with KF700 because it does not have scoring. this is probably a std practice but new for me.
even though miters were perfect i did get occasional height variation on assembly with kreg pocket screws. this is with predrilling the opposite side and best clamping i could do. so not sure if i can improve it any more.
imran
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festool edge sanding attachment
i pre ordered and recently received this gadget
i used it to do 90 and 45 deg sanding on this
it helps making sanding more uniform. the accessory fits the sander only one way. which means that for right handed sanding the vacuum hose points towards the operator, not my preference but also not a show stopper. while the jig keeps sander face at set angle vertically, you still need to keep the face of the sander parallel to the material horizontally.
there are marks for setting sanding angles at 45, 60, 75 and 90 deg or anything in between. a green plastic part allows to fine tune the location but when i tuned to 90 deg the 45 was slightly off.
the pad that slides on the material moves out to expose the sanding pad completely. there is also a hard and soft sanding switch. i have not used soft but it appears to allow play in sanding angle.
the accessory has two halves that are connected by two hex socket head screws.
imran
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Re: new to me, benefit of scoring
I have used a lamello in the past wit pocket screw to prevent shifting?
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On Nov 20, 2020, at 2:43 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? i made these mitered frames to wrap pressure treated porch postsi made one 45 cut and then instead of setting the xcut fence to the opposing 45, i flipped material 180 lengthwise and made the opposing cut with material upside down. i could not do that with KF700 because it does not have scoring. this is probably a std practice but new for me.even though miters were perfect i did get occasional height variation on assembly with kreg pocket screws. this is with predrilling the opposite side and best clamping i could do. so not sure if i can improve it any more.imran<image0.jpeg>
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new to me, benefit of scoring
i made these mitered frames to wrap pressure treated porch posts
i made one 45 cut and then instead of setting the xcut fence to the opposing 45, i flipped material 180 lengthwise and made the opposing cut with material upside down. i could not do that with KF700 because it does not have scoring. this is probably a std practice but new for me.
even though miters were perfect i did get occasional height variation on assembly with kreg pocket screws. this is with predrilling the opposite side and best clamping i could do. so not sure if i can improve it any more.
imran
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Re: Looking Into a Felder
Lots of experience here on options and mistakes others have made.? Share your thinking and you will get lots of mostly consistent input.? Felder builds
all machines to order and if any are available in the showroom for sale it¡¯s because a customer backed out.? I understand the leadtime is 6 months or so right now.? I¡¯ve worked with Carl at Felder who I think lives in LA and he has been very helpful too.
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On Behalf Of michal.gordon via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 8:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] Looking Into a Felder
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I'm looking in getting a Felder. Any thoughts or tips on how to go about it?
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Re: Looking Into a Felder
michal,
felder makes many different tools. what are you looking to buy? saw, shaper, jointer, bandsaw, CNC, ...
there are single and combo options.
you can buy new or used
where are you located on the globe
here is the felder usa site
if in USA you can call (866) 792-5288 and ask to speak with the sales person for your area.
imran
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On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:13 AM, michal.gordon via groups.io <michal.gordon@...> wrote: ? Hi everyone.?
I'm looking in getting a Felder. Any thoughts or tips on how to go about it?
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Michal
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Hi everyone.?
I'm looking in getting a Felder. Any thoughts or tips on how to go about it?
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Thanks,?
Michal
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I have the KF700SP with the 10¡¯6¡± slider, and the 4¡¯ outrigger. Sorry, I don¡¯t think in metric, so I just used an imperial tape measure to get rough measurements.?
I remove the fence from the outrigger, and slide the outrigger as far to the right as it will go. Then I use the shaper with the power feeder with no problems. ?The outrigger support arm is a tripping hazard that one must adjust to. It¡¯s not an ideal solution, but it works for me.?
When I do freehand shaper work, I remove the outrigger so that I can work without the tripping hazard. So far, no problems.?
Like many of you, I agree that separates are the best option if space and budgets allow.?
Stay safe,
Alex
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On Nov 19, 2020, at 12:41 AM, david.r.milson@... wrote:
?Hi Acharya,
Although you haven't asked this, but having purchased the KF700S with 9' sliding table and knowing what I now know, I feel I would have been happier with the longer table.?
Also, removing the outrigger table is a PITA so I rarely do it.? Attempting to do any sort of jobs with the spindle moulder (with the outrigger in place) is frustrating.? Again, knowing what I know now, I would have purchased a seperate machine for my spindle moulder.??
Cheers
David
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I had a cart for my KF700 and as Jonathan said it is quick and easy.?? I don¡¯t have the little ears on my 940 to use the cart so I was considering selling it, where are you located? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of jontathan samways Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 8:47 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FOG] outrigger for KF700S ? David, do you have the outrigger cart? It makes? removal a 30 second procedure. ? On Thu, 19 Nov 2020, 09:52 David Luckensmeyer, <dhluckens@...> wrote: Hi David: I have separates so I have no experience using a KF700, but I¡¯m surprised by your comment that using the shaper with the outrigger in place is a pain. For me ¡ª having no experience ¡ª I¡¯d think you¡¯d just move the sliding table along so that the outrigger is not in the way. Or if it is a sliding table locking thing, I¡¯d just slide the outrigger along the p-channel, and out of the way. ? ? Hi Acharya,
Although you haven't asked this, but having purchased the KF700S with 9' sliding table and knowing what I now know, I feel I would have been happier with the longer table.?
Also, removing the outrigger table is a PITA so I rarely do it.? Attempting to do any sort of jobs with the spindle moulder (with the outrigger in place) is frustrating.? Again, knowing what I know now, I would have purchased a seperate machine for my spindle moulder.??
Cheers
David
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Plenty strong enough, and you don¡¯t need to ratchet, they pivot anywhere you want them. The ones I got for 5/16 studs are pretty large, so you might have to reduce the size of the thru stud on the clamp, thus using a smaller threaded t-nut.
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thanks Brian. i saw these cam action levers but they do not ratchet, which is not necessary. you think they would be strong enough for pneumatic clamps?
imran On Nov 19, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Brian Lamb < blamb11@...> wrote: ? Kipp makes these in threaded hole and threaded post. They can tend to be pretty large, I bought some to try with the Flipstop and they are too big and bulky for that application.
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do they make any kip type clamping lever where the handle could be flipped vertical? it would allow easier removal where there is not much horizontal clearance to fully rotate the handle.
imran
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thanks Brian. i saw these cam action levers but they do not ratchet, which is not necessary. you think they would be strong enough for pneumatic clamps?
imran
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On Nov 19, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote: ? Kipp makes these in threaded hole and threaded post. They can tend to be pretty large, I bought some to try with the Flipstop and they are too big and bulky for that application.
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do they make any kip type clamping lever where the handle could be flipped vertical? it would allow easier removal where there is not much horizontal clearance to fully rotate the handle.
imran
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Kipp makes these in threaded hole and threaded post. They can tend to be pretty large, I bought some to try with the Flipstop and they are too big and bulky for that application.
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do they make any kip type clamping lever where the handle could be flipped vertical? it would allow easier removal where there is not much horizontal clearance to fully rotate the handle.
imran
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thanks Jerry. good to know. currently i have to remove the kip lever to lift my homemade clamp off slider - your suggestion should speed it up. issue is that i made the slider nut too long and it does not come out due to slider handle being in the way. i may just notch the handle wall to be done.
going from using clamps on KF700 w/o outrigger to K975 with outrigger is a diff experience. primarily due to the short xcut fence fixed tnut and inability to slide the clamp off because handle is in the way.
imran?
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On Nov 19, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Jerry P <Jerry-Pac-Man@...> wrote: ?I use this method when you cannot fully rotate the handle.
Get the appropriate T-handle hex or torx driver, lift the handle
to disengage it and turn the handle mounting screw CCW.
The screw does not loosen from the body of the Kipp lever.? ?
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Jerry P
Life is what happens to you when you're making other plans.
"You can observe a lot by watching."? Yogi Berra
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I use this method when you cannot fully rotate the handle.
Get the appropriate T-handle hex or torx driver, lift the handle
to disengage it and turn the handle mounting screw CCW.
The screw does not loosen from the body of the Kipp lever.? ?
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Jerry P
Life is what happens to you when you're making other plans.
"You can observe a lot by watching."? Yogi Berra
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David, do you have the outrigger cart? It makes? removal a 30 second procedure.
Jonathan
On Thu, 19 Nov 2020, 09:52 David Luckensmeyer, < dhluckens@...> wrote: Hi David:
I have separates so I have no experience using a KF700, but I¡¯m surprised by your comment that using the shaper with the outrigger in place is a pain. For me ¡ª having no experience ¡ª I¡¯d think you¡¯d just move the sliding table along so that the outrigger is not in the way. Or if it is a sliding table locking thing, I¡¯d just slide the outrigger along the p-channel, and out of the way.
What am I missing?
Thanks, Lucky
Hi Acharya,
Although you haven't asked this, but having purchased the KF700S with 9' sliding table and knowing what I now know, I feel I would have been happier with the longer table.?
Also, removing the outrigger table is a PITA so I rarely do it.? Attempting to do any sort of jobs with the spindle moulder (with the outrigger in place) is frustrating.? Again, knowing what I know now, I would have purchased a seperate machine for my spindle moulder.??
Cheers
David
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do they make any kip type clamping lever where the handle could be flipped vertical? it would allow easier removal where there is not much horizontal clearance to fully rotate the handle.
imran
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Hi David:
I have separates so I have no experience using a KF700, but I¡¯m surprised by your comment that using the shaper with the outrigger in place is a pain. For me ¡ª having no experience ¡ª I¡¯d think you¡¯d just move the sliding table along so that the outrigger is not in the way. Or if it is a sliding table locking thing, I¡¯d just slide the outrigger along the p-channel, and out of the way.
What am I missing?
Thanks, Lucky
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Hi Acharya,
Although you haven't asked this, but having purchased the KF700S with 9' sliding table and knowing what I now know, I feel I would have been happier with the longer table.?
Also, removing the outrigger table is a PITA so I rarely do it.? Attempting to do any sort of jobs with the spindle moulder (with the outrigger in place) is frustrating.? Again, knowing what I know now, I would have purchased a seperate machine for my spindle moulder.??
Cheers
David
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Hi Acharya,
Although you haven't asked this, but having purchased the KF700S with 9' sliding table and knowing what I now know, I feel I would have been happier with the longer table.?
Also, removing the outrigger table is a PITA so I rarely do it.? Attempting to do any sort of jobs with the spindle moulder (with the outrigger in place) is frustrating.? Again, knowing what I know now, I would have purchased a seperate machine for my spindle moulder.??
Cheers
David
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