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Re: outrigger for KF700S

 

David, do you have the outrigger cart? It makes? removal a 30 second procedure.


Jonathan



On Thu, 19 Nov 2020, 09:52 David Luckensmeyer, <dhluckens@...> wrote:
Hi David:

I have separates so I have no experience using a KF700, but I¡¯m surprised by your comment that using the shaper with the outrigger in place is a pain. For me ¡ª having no experience ¡ª I¡¯d think you¡¯d just move the sliding table along so that the outrigger is not in the way. Or if it is a sliding table locking thing, I¡¯d just slide the outrigger along the p-channel, and out of the way.

What am I missing?

Thanks,
Lucky


On 19 Nov 2020, at 6:41 pm, david.r.milson@... wrote:

Hi Acharya,
Although you haven't asked this, but having purchased the KF700S with 9' sliding table and knowing what I now know, I feel I would have been happier with the longer table.?
Also, removing the outrigger table is a PITA so I rarely do it.? Attempting to do any sort of jobs with the spindle moulder (with the outrigger in place) is frustrating.? Again, knowing what I know now, I would have purchased a seperate machine for my spindle moulder.??
Cheers
David

kip lever question

 

do they make any kip type clamping lever where the handle could be flipped vertical? it would allow easier removal where there is not much horizontal clearance to fully rotate the handle.

imran
Re: outrigger for KF700S

 

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Hi David:

I have separates so I have no experience using a KF700, but I¡¯m surprised by your comment that using the shaper with the outrigger in place is a pain. For me ¡ª having no experience ¡ª I¡¯d think you¡¯d just move the sliding table along so that the outrigger is not in the way. Or if it is a sliding table locking thing, I¡¯d just slide the outrigger along the p-channel, and out of the way.

What am I missing?

Thanks,
Lucky


On 19 Nov 2020, at 6:41 pm, david.r.milson@... wrote:

Hi Acharya,
Although you haven't asked this, but having purchased the KF700S with 9' sliding table and knowing what I now know, I feel I would have been happier with the longer table.?
Also, removing the outrigger table is a PITA so I rarely do it.? Attempting to do any sort of jobs with the spindle moulder (with the outrigger in place) is frustrating.? Again, knowing what I know now, I would have purchased a seperate machine for my spindle moulder.??
Cheers
David

smime.p7s
smime.p7s

Re: outrigger for KF700S

 

Hi Acharya,
Although you haven't asked this, but having purchased the KF700S with 9' sliding table and knowing what I now know, I feel I would have been happier with the longer table.?
Also, removing the outrigger table is a PITA so I rarely do it.? Attempting to do any sort of jobs with the spindle moulder (with the outrigger in place) is frustrating.? Again, knowing what I know now, I would have purchased a seperate machine for my spindle moulder.??
Cheers
David
Re: Shaper tooling organization

 

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Nah, you can get a martini anywhere, but now if we are to get into DB¡¯s wine cellar¡­



On Nov 16, 2020, at 5:11 PM, david@... via <david@...> wrote:

Thanks Eric, ?Here is the standard announcement I give everyone about the booze cabinet in my shop: ?

David Best







On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Eric Janson <jej@...> wrote:

Hi David Best,

When SW posted his question I was happy to anticipate riding on his coattails for some good ideas. Your reply has exceeded my hopes. IMHO, you could contribute significantly to the next rev of the Blickpunkt Werkstatt. I and the rest of the FOG regulars are indebted to you for your so many insightful contributions, and the generous sets of photos are never TMI for me.

Ideas I found to be especially useful included: the holes beneath the shaper cutter edges to assist in picking them up; laying the magnetic bars down on the drawer bottoms to keep chisels in place (mine are wall- mounted, with space filling up too quickly and the end- rings on my Japanese chisels falling off when they loosen as the wood shrinks in Colorado¡¯s dry air); and, the graduated wall height on the scrap storage bin (I am too often searching for shorter pieces amongst the taller ones ¨C such a simple and practical idea to graduate the height.)?

Lastly, one humble suggestion to make, a warning sticker on the booze cabinet: DANGER: For Use Only at Day¡¯s End??

Thanks again so much for this.

Cheers, Eric Janson


On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 10:55 AM Shinta Wakahisa via??<vnh84=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks David and Imran for posting pictures.? I were looking for equal-height-drawers tool cart, but seeing your pictures, the shallow drawers are useful as well.? I considered building drawer cart using 100-lbs drawer slide, but the weight of the Felder shaper cutters made me think that metal tool cart is a better option.? One shipping box of Felder shaper cutter weighed in at 62 lbs per UPS.

David, are those Durham racks and compartment boxes that you use to sort your screws, bolts, etc.?? How did you obtain extra dividers???

SW
Re: Installing gas screw on big lift

 

I have attached the bracket drawing that I created. It is based upon the original but uses 3/8" steel plate instead of the 1/2" AL. One I have had installed on KF700 was made with 1/2" AL plate but the threads, for the ball stud, on mine have been compromised over the yrs. I believe if the threaded post of ball stud was longer to allow the nut to fully engage it would help the life of threads in AL. So, if I were to go with 1/2" AL then I would recommend 9512K19 ball stud as it has 1" threaded post vs 3/4" for the one below (which is fine for 3/8" thick plate). It may however require you to cut it short if it interferes with the tilt bracket.

Here is the parts list. Some are bulk items but you can buy them in low qtys locally. Flat head screw (91253A542) is probably most critical as it has a low profile head. Also, Jeff opted for 125# gas spring but I believe most have used the 250# given below. So just something to be aware of.

Imran

Bracket - dimensioned.pdf
Bracket - dimensioned.pdf

Re: Installing gas screw on big lift

 

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Thanks for the reply. The parts list would be helpful.

CHS



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-------- Original message --------
From: "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...>
Date: 11/17/20 9:16 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [FOG] Installing gas screw on big lift

hi charles,

the drawing for the custom bracket is in files section. the remaining parts are available from mcmaster carr. i can send you the parts list if you are interested. i had some brackets made but i am out of them now. if at least 4 people want them i may be able to coax the local metal worker to make another set.

imran

Re: Thinking of a combo machine #hammer #whatmachinetobuy

 

Wow that¡¯s a lot of big machinery in a tight space. Well done!
Re: outrigger for KF700S

 

I recently ordered a KF700S. I was considering a 2800 slider, ended up with a 3200 slider with 1500 outrigger. I did not explicitly ask about the 1300 outrigger, but I had the impression that it was an option. Your salesperson should be able to give you a definitive answer.?
--
Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
Re: Installing gas screw on big lift

 

hi charles,

the drawing for the custom bracket is in files section. the remaining parts are available from mcmaster carr. i can send you the parts list if you are interested. i had some brackets made but i am out of them now. if at least 4 people want them i may be able to coax the local metal worker to make another set.

imran
Re: Installing gas screw on big lift

 

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hi jeff,

i am glad that you got it going. sorry that you had to go thru the swap on the gas spring.

imran

On Nov 17, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Jeff <jeff.lund.ca@...> wrote:

?Just to close out on this for those who might be interested, I ordered a 125lb gas spring to try in place of the 250lb spring I had been using. It arrived this evening and I just installed it. It works!? While it didn't make the feeder weightless, it does make it much, much easier to raise and lower.? Thanks to everyone for the help and advice.?

Re: Installing gas screw on big lift

 

Just to close out on this for those who might be interested, I ordered a 125lb gas spring to try in place of the 250lb spring I had been using. It arrived this evening and I just installed it. It works!? While it didn't make the feeder weightless, it does make it much, much easier to raise and lower.? Thanks to everyone for the help and advice.?
Re: Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile

 

thank you all for the feedback back in June. i needed to use pressure module on K975 few days ago and realized i never acted on the inability to mount aigner pressure module on xroll. i decided to order the p channel mount that was posted by Chris. you can almost read the PN in the pic he posted but just to make it easy here it is again:

AI-214527950270

still $50 and change plus shipping.

imran
Re: Any experience with Boarke wide belt sanders

 

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Thanks David, google popped his business right up.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Kumm
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Any experience with Boarke wide belt sanders

?

I think Andy from CO is the dealer on that one.? When I was looking at WB, I was interested but he sounded a little too sales guy but to be fair, he gave me a reference for Peter Mulberger who does appraisals for WB.? I contacted him and he did a critique of the machine I was interested in and was much more objective than Andy.? If you want his contact info, let me know.? It was 7-8 years ago so Pete might not be around but I will give you what I have.? I think i paid 200 or so for the report.? Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 3:52 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] Any experience with Boarke wide belt sanders

?

There is a dual head 37" for sale on woodweb.? Looked it up and the brand is Taiwanese.? The model for sale weights 2330 kgs (not lbs but kgs).

Re: Shaper tooling organization

 

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Thanks Eric, ?Here is the standard announcement I give everyone about the booze cabinet in my shop: ?

David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/





On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Eric Janson <jej@...> wrote:

Hi David Best,

When SW posted his question I was happy to anticipate riding on his coattails for some good ideas. Your reply has exceeded my hopes. IMHO, you could contribute significantly to the next rev of the Blickpunkt Werkstatt. I and the rest of the FOG regulars are indebted to you for your so many insightful contributions, and the generous sets of photos are never TMI for me.

Ideas I found to be especially useful included: the holes beneath the shaper cutter edges to assist in picking them up; laying the magnetic bars down on the drawer bottoms to keep chisels in place (mine are wall- mounted, with space filling up too quickly and the end- rings on my Japanese chisels falling off when they loosen as the wood shrinks in Colorado¡¯s dry air); and, the graduated wall height on the scrap storage bin (I am too often searching for shorter pieces amongst the taller ones ¨C such a simple and practical idea to graduate the height.)

Lastly, one humble suggestion to make, a warning sticker on the booze cabinet: DANGER: For Use Only at Day¡¯s End ?

Thanks again so much for this.

Cheers, Eric Janson


On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 10:55 AM Shinta Wakahisa via <vnh84=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks David and Imran for posting pictures.? I were looking for equal-height-drawers tool cart, but seeing your pictures, the shallow drawers are useful as well.? I considered building drawer cart using 100-lbs drawer slide, but the weight of the Felder shaper cutters made me think that metal tool cart is a better option.? One shipping box of Felder shaper cutter weighed in at 62 lbs per UPS.

David, are those Durham racks and compartment boxes that you use to sort your screws, bolts, etc.?? How did you obtain extra dividers???

SW
Re: Any experience with Boarke wide belt sanders

 

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I think Andy from CO is the dealer on that one.? When I was looking at WB, I was interested but he sounded a little too sales guy but to be fair, he gave me a reference for Peter Mulberger who does appraisals for WB.? I contacted him and he did a critique of the machine I was interested in and was much more objective than Andy.? If you want his contact info, let me know.? It was 7-8 years ago so Pete might not be around but I will give you what I have.? I think i paid 200 or so for the report.? Dave

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 3:52 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] Any experience with Boarke wide belt sanders
?
There is a dual head 37" for sale on woodweb.? Looked it up and the brand is Taiwanese.? The model for sale weights 2330 kgs (not lbs but kgs).

Any experience with Boarke wide belt sanders

 

There is a dual head 37" for sale on woodweb.? Looked it up and the brand is Taiwanese.? The model for sale weights 2330 kgs (not lbs but kgs).
Re: Thinking of a combo machine #hammer #whatmachinetobuy

 

Lucky, yes I had to improvise with what I have, I only do this part time so I cant justify spending $$ on a dedicated industrial complex.?
the dead zone behind panel saw is really useful for bandsaw, I can almost utilise the slider if I need to.?

I cut full sheet (8x4) ply, particle board or MDF from time to time, no issues. it just clears. however there is only about 5'8" to the right of the panel saw, not ideal, if I get long stock I cut it outside.?
Re: KF700S Not Starting

 

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hi shawn,

look for a PM from me in your inbox or junk folder.

imran

On Nov 16, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Shawn Kammerer via groups.io <shawnkammerer@...> wrote:

?
Hey Imran,?
Do you happen to know where you bought your aftermarket stop switches for your K975? I've ordered them from Felder before for past machines, but if there's a good alternative, I could use one right about now. My F900 shaper's stop switch is acting up now.
Thanks,
Shawn

On Monday, October 12, 2020, 07:09:11 AM PDT, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:


i replaced start and stop switches when the start became intermittent on my K975 saw - basically when i bought it used. i did not call felder as they were readily available online. Not expensive and easy to replace.

imran?

On Oct 12, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Jarrett Maxwell <j.a.max7@...> wrote:

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Hey Toby,?

I've had the shaper stop button not reset before. The spring loaded button will return to its original position but the switch itself would not return to its normal resting position.? It would eventually spring back on its own but the machine was down until it did. Once that stop switch was replaced the problem ceased.?

Since your problem solved itself I would think that it may be a dirty or failing stop switch as others have mentioned.?

Jarrett?

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 7:49 AM Toby Jutras <toby.jutras@...> wrote:

You guys are awesome.? So many great ideas.

?

I got pretty frustrated yesterday and moved to another project.? It¡¯s funny how so many projects in my shop still require this saw/shaper.? It seems that nearly every other project I tried to work on also required the saw or shaper.

?

Today I thought I would check things once more before phoning support.? Not sure what happened, but I got the yellow light Brian refers to below, and then tried starting the shaper and it worked.

?

A long time ago I was in product support¡­ if it only happened once, it didn¡¯t really happen.? So I guess I wait to see if it happens again.

?

Thanks everyone!

?

Toby Jutras, Owner

Maine Wood Products, LLC

603.322.3805

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Lamb via
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 12:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] KF700S Not Starting

?

Put the selector button in reverse for the shaper, see if the yellow light comes on. If it doesn¡¯t, you have an open connection in your e-stop string. All the limit switches and stop buttons are daisy chained into one circuit, if any of them are open, you can¡¯t start the machine.


Brian Lamb
blamb11@...



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On Oct 11, 2020, at 5:58 AM, Toby Jutras <toby.jutras@...> wrote:

?

Felder Folks,

I used my the Shaper this morning, then switched to saw and it is not starting. I¡¯ve tried:

  • Power cycling
  • Fuses checked with ohm meter
  • Safety switches properly engaged
  • Switching from saw to shaper several times

Neither the saw nor shaper will start.?

?

Any guidance is appreciated.?

?

Toby

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Re: KF700S Not Starting

 

Hey Imran,?
Do you happen to know where you bought your aftermarket stop switches for your K975? I've ordered them from Felder before for past machines, but if there's a good alternative, I could use one right about now. My F900 shaper's stop switch is acting up now.
Thanks,
Shawn

On Monday, October 12, 2020, 07:09:11 AM PDT, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:


i replaced start and stop switches when the start became intermittent on my K975 saw - basically when i bought it used. i did not call felder as they were readily available online. Not expensive and easy to replace.

imran?

On Oct 12, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Jarrett Maxwell <j.a.max7@...> wrote:

?
Hey Toby,?

I've had the shaper stop button not reset before. The spring loaded button will return to its original position but the switch itself would not return to its normal resting position.? It would eventually spring back on its own but the machine was down until it did. Once that stop switch was replaced the problem ceased.?

Since your problem solved itself I would think that it may be a dirty or failing stop switch as others have mentioned.?

Jarrett?

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 7:49 AM Toby Jutras <toby.jutras@...> wrote:

You guys are awesome.? So many great ideas.

?

I got pretty frustrated yesterday and moved to another project.? It¡¯s funny how so many projects in my shop still require this saw/shaper.? It seems that nearly every other project I tried to work on also required the saw or shaper.

?

Today I thought I would check things once more before phoning support.? Not sure what happened, but I got the yellow light Brian refers to below, and then tried starting the shaper and it worked.

?

A long time ago I was in product support¡­ if it only happened once, it didn¡¯t really happen.? So I guess I wait to see if it happens again.

?

Thanks everyone!

?

Toby Jutras, Owner

Maine Wood Products, LLC

603.322.3805

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Lamb via
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 12:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] KF700S Not Starting

?

Put the selector button in reverse for the shaper, see if the yellow light comes on. If it doesn¡¯t, you have an open connection in your e-stop string. All the limit switches and stop buttons are daisy chained into one circuit, if any of them are open, you can¡¯t start the machine.


Brian Lamb
blamb11@...



?

On Oct 11, 2020, at 5:58 AM, Toby Jutras <toby.jutras@...> wrote:

?

Felder Folks,

I used my the Shaper this morning, then switched to saw and it is not starting. I¡¯ve tried:

  • Power cycling
  • Fuses checked with ohm meter
  • Safety switches properly engaged
  • Switching from saw to shaper several times

Neither the saw nor shaper will start.?

?

Any guidance is appreciated.?

?

Toby

?

?

Get

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