Oh yeah, that happened once too - the stop switch on the table saw. i bypassed it, and viola, no problem.
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Hi Toby,This?happened to me in the past, and it turned out to be a bad stop switch. Felder walked me through finding which one was the problem, then walked me through bypassing it temporarily until a new switch showed up. You could try blowing on the stop switches with compressed air, worth a try.?
-Shawn On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 9:00 AM, Martin Guiver via?<martin.guiver@...> wrote: Could be the motor start capacitor as James has said but the motor usually tries to start and then stops it also buzzes too! Have you got more than one motor on your machine, if so it¡¯s unlikely that both capacitors have failed! Hi Toby! First port of call is checking the input and output from your control transformer assuming you have checked all the supplies etc. The control transformer basically supplies power to the control circuit and in effect isolates the chassis from a live supply fault thus protecting the user. If your 230v in and out that¡¯s what you should get on the meter. There¡¯s no polarity as it¡¯s AC. On the A2 terminal side there is also a relay which might have tripped and needs the button reset pushed or changed from manual to auto on the dial. There are also two small glass fuses, fuse holder on the DIN rail, they¡¯re not as most think, fast fuses they are in fact slow variants to protect from startup surge! Hope that helps... oh by the way if it¡¯s the Transformer Felder will want over ?300, try red electrical supplies and you¡¯ll get the equivalent for under ?30!
More info 1phase 3 phase , vfd ? ? Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 11, 2020, at 8:07 AM, fa18frog via <fa18frog@...> wrote:
?Toby,
? ? ?Just had a similar situation with my N4400. ?I would recommend checking the motor start capacitor. ?Likely a visual inspection will tell you if it¡¯s bad. ?The capacitor on the N4400 was mad hot and bulging at the seams.
James ?
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Hi Toby, This?happened to me in the past, and it turned out to be a bad stop switch. Felder walked me through finding which one was the problem, then walked me through bypassing it temporarily until a new switch showed up. You could try blowing on the stop switches with compressed air, worth a try.?
-Shawn
On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 9:00 AM, Martin Guiver via groups.io <martin.guiver@...> wrote: Could be the motor start capacitor as James has said but the motor usually tries to start and then stops it also buzzes too! Have you got more than one motor on your machine, if so it¡¯s unlikely that both capacitors have failed! Martin? On 11 Oct 2020, at 16:56, Martin Guiver <martin.guiver@...> wrote:
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Hi Toby! First port of call is checking the input and output from your control transformer assuming you have checked all the supplies etc. The control transformer basically supplies power to the control circuit and in effect isolates the chassis from a live supply fault thus protecting the user. If your 230v in and out that¡¯s what you should get on the meter. There¡¯s no polarity as it¡¯s AC. On the A2 terminal side there is also a relay which might have tripped and needs the button reset pushed or changed from manual to auto on the dial. There are also two small glass fuses, fuse holder on the DIN rail, they¡¯re not as most think, fast fuses they are in fact slow variants to protect from startup surge! Hope that helps... oh by the way if it¡¯s the Transformer Felder will want over ?300, try red electrical supplies and you¡¯ll get the equivalent for under ?30!
Regards Martin? On 11 Oct 2020, at 14:27, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
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More info 1phase 3 phase , vfd ? ? Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 11, 2020, at 8:07 AM, fa18frog via groups.io <fa18frog@...> wrote:
?Toby,
? ? ?Just had a similar situation with my N4400. ?I would recommend checking the motor start capacitor. ?Likely a visual inspection will tell you if it¡¯s bad. ?The capacitor on the N4400 was mad hot and bulging at the seams.
James ?
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Put the selector button in reverse for the shaper, see if the yellow light comes on. If it doesn¡¯t, you have an open connection in your e-stop string. All the limit switches and stop buttons are daisy chained into one circuit, if any of them are open, you can¡¯t start the machine.
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Felder Folks,
I used my the Shaper this morning, then switched to saw and it is not starting. I¡¯ve tried:
- Power cycling
- Fuses checked with ohm meter
- Safety switches properly engaged
- Switching from saw to shaper several times
Neither the saw nor shaper will start.?
Any guidance is appreciated.?
Toby
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Could be the motor start capacitor as James has said but the motor usually tries to start and then stops it also buzzes too! Have you got more than one motor on your machine, if so it¡¯s unlikely that both capacitors have failed!
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On 11 Oct 2020, at 16:56, Martin Guiver <martin.guiver@...> wrote:
? Hi Toby! First port of call is checking the input and output from your control transformer assuming you have checked all the supplies etc. The control transformer basically supplies power to the control circuit and in effect isolates the chassis from a live supply fault thus protecting the user. If your 230v in and out that¡¯s what you should get on the meter. There¡¯s no polarity as it¡¯s AC. On the A2 terminal side there is also a relay which might have tripped and needs the button reset pushed or changed from manual to auto on the dial. There are also two small glass fuses, fuse holder on the DIN rail, they¡¯re not as most think, fast fuses they are in fact slow variants to protect from startup surge! Hope that helps... oh by the way if it¡¯s the Transformer Felder will want over ?300, try red electrical supplies and you¡¯ll get the equivalent for under ?30!
Regards Martin? On 11 Oct 2020, at 14:27, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
? More info 1phase 3 phase , vfd ? ? Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 11, 2020, at 8:07 AM, fa18frog via groups.io <fa18frog@...> wrote:
?Toby,
? ? ?Just had a similar situation with my N4400. ?I would recommend checking the motor start capacitor. ?Likely a visual inspection will tell you if it¡¯s bad. ?The capacitor on the N4400 was mad hot and bulging at the seams.
James ?
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Hi Toby! First port of call is checking the input and output from your control transformer assuming you have checked all the supplies etc. The control transformer basically supplies power to the control circuit and in effect isolates the chassis from a live supply fault thus protecting the user. If your 230v in and out that¡¯s what you should get on the meter. There¡¯s no polarity as it¡¯s AC. On the A2 terminal side there is also a relay which might have tripped and needs the button reset pushed or changed from manual to auto on the dial. There are also two small glass fuses, fuse holder on the DIN rail, they¡¯re not as most think, fast fuses they are in fact slow variants to protect from startup surge! Hope that helps... oh by the way if it¡¯s the Transformer Felder will want over ?300, try red electrical supplies and you¡¯ll get the equivalent for under ?30!
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On 11 Oct 2020, at 14:27, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
? More info 1phase 3 phase , vfd ? ? Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 11, 2020, at 8:07 AM, fa18frog via groups.io <fa18frog@...> wrote:
?Toby,
? ? ?Just had a similar situation with my N4400. ?I would recommend checking the motor start capacitor. ?Likely a visual inspection will tell you if it¡¯s bad. ?The capacitor on the N4400 was mad hot and bulging at the seams.
James ?
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Once in a blue moon this happens here. Blowing out the electronics and switches, including under the covers with compressed air has removed dust and seems to have solved the problem.?
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On Oct 11, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression < airtightclamps@...> wrote: More info 1phase 3 phase , vfd ? ? Designing and building for 50 years On Oct 11, 2020, at 8:07 AM, fa18frog via <fa18frog@...> wrote:
?Toby,
? ? ?Just had a similar situation with my N4400. ?I would recommend checking the motor start capacitor. ?Likely a visual inspection will tell you if it¡¯s bad. ?The capacitor on the N4400 was mad hot and bulging at the seams.
James ?
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More info 1phase 3 phase , vfd ? ? Designing and building for 50 years
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On Oct 11, 2020, at 8:07 AM, fa18frog via groups.io <fa18frog@...> wrote:
?Toby,
? ? ?Just had a similar situation with my N4400. ?I would recommend checking the motor start capacitor. ?Likely a visual inspection will tell you if it¡¯s bad. ?The capacitor on the N4400 was mad hot and bulging at the seams.
James ?
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Toby,
? ? ?Just had a similar situation with my N4400. ?I would recommend checking the motor start capacitor. ?Likely a visual inspection will tell you if it¡¯s bad. ?The capacitor on the N4400 was mad hot and bulging at the seams.
James ?
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Felder Folks,
I used my the Shaper this morning, then switched to saw and it is not starting. I¡¯ve tried:
- Power cycling
- Fuses checked with ohm meter
- Safety switches properly engaged
- Switching from saw to shaper several times
Neither the saw nor shaper will start.?
Any guidance is appreciated.?
Toby
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Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Here is a source with some good info and links,
Jerry P
Life is what happens to you when you're making other plans.
"You can observe a lot by watching."? Yogi Berra
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Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Thanks Imran. I do have a volt meter and will try to check. Good stuff. Alan
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On Oct 10, 2020, at 10:25 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
Alan,
here is the link for relay
datasheet:
it is 24V SPST NO relay with following pin configuration:
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when there is 24V between A1 & A2 pins 11 and 14 should be shorted otherwise open.
not sure if you have a volt meter and whether you are comfortable with making measurements. if you would like to troubleshoot, i would start by confirming that you have 24VDC available in the saw.
Imran
On Oct 10, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
?Great idea Imran. Thanks I¡¯m not competent to do that, but I can find someone who is.
Alan.
On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:35 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
Alan,
are you able to verify that the siemens relays are working or not. i do see them available via internet search on PN.
imran
On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
?I have an old Inca Euro-260 bandsaw - very nice small complement to my larger Felder FB600 bandsaw - but unfortunately the on/off switch died. I tried to get parts from incamachines.com in France. They are generally quite helpful, but they don't have this part because my saw is a late model US 115V version (circa 1997, Type 342.186.15) and incamachines.com only has the parts for the European models, so they couldn't help on this one. According to incamachines.com, those late 1990's machines The switch assembly is a black plastic box with red and green off/on switches actuated by square buttons, plus a place for a safety lock behind the removable blade cover. There is some electronic (early plug-in IC chips) controlled by the switches. I've confirmed that the power gets to the switches, but either the switch(es) themselves are broken or the chip(s) are fried. I've hunted around but so far no luck, and perhaps this community might know where to find a full switch assembly or compnent parts (or if anyone has a dead Euro-260 in storage and wants to sell me their switch, glad to talk more). It is such a cool little bandsaw I hate to give up on it. I haven't found a part number on this thing, but photos attached.
Thanks to all....
Alan Mix
Corvallis, OR, USA
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Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Alan,
here is the link for relay
datasheet:
it is 24V SPST NO relay with following pin configuration:
when there is 24V between A1 & A2 pins 11 and 14 should be shorted otherwise open.?
not sure if you have a volt meter and whether you are comfortable with making measurements. if you would like to troubleshoot, i would start by confirming that you have 24VDC available in the saw.
Imran
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On Oct 10, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote: ? Great idea Imran. ?Thanks I¡¯m not competent to do that, but I can find someone who is. Alan.On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:35 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
Alan,
are you able to verify that the siemens relays are working or not. i do see them available via internet search on PN.
imran
On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
?I have an old Inca Euro-260 bandsaw - very nice small complement to my larger Felder FB600 bandsaw - but unfortunately the on/off switch died. ?I tried to get parts from incamachines.com in France. They are generally quite helpful, but they don't have this part because my saw is a late model US 115V version (circa 1997, Type 342.186.15) and incamachines.com only has the parts for the European models, so they couldn't help on this one. ?According to incamachines.com, those late 1990's machines The switch assembly is a black plastic box with red and green off/on switches actuated by square buttons, plus a place for a safety lock behind the removable blade cover. ?There is some electronic (early plug-in IC chips) controlled by the switches. ?I've confirmed that the power gets to the switches, but either the switch(es) themselves are broken or the chip(s) are fried. ?I've hunted around but so far no luck, and perhaps this community might know where to find a full switch assembly or compnent parts (or if anyone has a dead Euro-260 in storage and wants to sell me their switch, glad to talk more). It is such a cool little bandsaw I hate to give up on it. ?I haven't found a part number on this thing, but photos attached.
Thanks to all....
Alan Mix
Corvallis, OR, USA
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Re: How to lift Tannewitz Bandsaw off pallet
Cut the pallet up and remove were you want the Oak skids to go Attach and roll out. Just need a reciprocating saw and ?BFH and pry bar just beet what you don¡¯t want out trash it. Than change the direction after you get it on flat floor in your shop. For this stuff , IT is nice to have toe jacks , solid rollers , 5¡¯ pry bars , machine trollies and on and on?
Mac,,, Designing and building for 50 years
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On Oct 10, 2020, at 12:20 PM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Joe, is there a threaded hole in the upper arm behind the wheel for an eyebolt?? The PH weighs 1800 lbs and supposedly the C frame is thick and reinforced.? Minimum height is listed at 6'9" so you must be close ( 7' doors should be outlawed ).? Dave
The challenge I¡¯m seeing is there is not places I can see to attach straps to.? If I remove the top wheel and brake stuff I could lift from the top of the arm but I¡¯m
not sure that¡¯s strong enough.? I¡¯d really like to work on the machine in the shop and not on the driveway in the sun.? The seller (LA School District) obviously lifted it onto a pallet so there must be a way to lift it off the pallet.? Maybe their lift was
sketchy and most certainly was done with a forklift.? There is a ring on the motor and I¡¯m told that giant 875 RPM 5HP motor weights 350 lbs.? I can¡¯t see lifting the machine from that ring as it¡¯s too low and the machine would rotate.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
David Davies
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 9:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] How to lift Tannewitz Bandsaw off pallet
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I bought a HF gantry crane to lift my MM bandsaw off the pallet
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On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 11:26 AM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
I've not lifted mine but I'm assuming the top wheel itself is too high and not just the guard rail.? The good news is a good condition PH probably has better resale value than a 36".? They are much rarer.? Dave
Hi all, I am back from picking up the Tannewitz I bought on auction.? I'm disappointed that it was a PH 30" and not a 36" but that's a risk I took with the sketchy listing.? At $775 with only one small broken part I think I did ok.? It's in a the bed of a drop
deck trailer out front of my shop. The pallet its strapped to is 6" high making it a couple inches too tall to roll into the shop.? I want to lift it off the pallet and place the permanent oak skids underneath.? I don't see any factory lift points.? ?I'm sure
someone here has done this.? There will be many more questions, the brake system must be non-functional as an electronic brake.? I will want to get that all back to original
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Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Thanks Mark. It is funny about these little Incas. Everyone seems to have affection for them. I got mine for free from the original owner who didn¡¯t want to restore it. Other than the switch problem, it had a horrible wheel wobble and vibration because of a hack job when he hired someone to fix a bad bearing on the top wheel and that guy tried to make his own, which apparently lasted about five minutes. I got a new top wheel and bearings from incamachines.com in France. My needed wheel was not listed on their web page, but I talked to them and they were wonderfully helpful nice people. They had one lying around, listed it on the web page for me, and I had it in my hands a couple of days later fedex from small town France to small town Oregon. Worked perfectly. So, if anyone else is looking for parts not obvious on their web page, just email them. They are delightful people to work with, and even when they didn¡¯t have what I needed, they gave good advice. I hope that helps everyone. But of course they don¡¯t have everything, especially for US models.
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On Oct 10, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
I have the same inca bandsaw, I thought it was a regular ol¡¯ switch. Jessie will take care of you, i bought the Inca bandsaw and the 2100 TS from him in 92¡¯. I sold that tablesaw about a year ago for $1200. And that was after using it in my business with 4-5 employees and I even had a power feeder on it
Mine has really bad vibration but i use it just for rough tight radius stuff, i do want to fully restore it at some point as I am quite attached to it, Jessie said he could help get to the bottom of the vibration issue but I haven¡¯t had time to connect
Regards, Mark
On Oct 10, 2020, at 9:16 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
?Thanks David.
Yes, I already have an email off to Jesse, as he used to sell Inca tools and Eagle Tools is a great source. I also tried Garrett-Wade (their phone number is on a sticker on the machine, so that is where it was purchased by the previous owner) but they don¡¯t stock old parts. Thanks again. Alan
On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:44 PM, David Sabo via groups.io <sabo_dave@...> wrote:
Jesse at Eagle Tools in L.A.
On Oct 10, 2020, at 6:25 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
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Are there safety interlocks on the machine? If not, any generic magnetic motor starter set for the appropriate motor current should be fine.
On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
?I have an old Inca Euro-260 bandsaw - very nice small complement to my larger Felder FB600 bandsaw - but unfortunately the on/off switch died. I tried to get parts from incamachines.com in France. They are generally quite helpful, but they don't have this part because my saw is a late model US 115V version (circa 1997, Type 342.186.15) and incamachines.com only has the parts for the European models, so they couldn't help on this one. According to incamachines.com, those late 1990's machines The switch assembly is a black plastic box with red and green off/on switches actuated by square buttons, plus a place for a safety lock behind the removable blade cover. There is some electronic (early plug-in IC chips) controlled by the switches. I've confirmed that the power gets to the switches, but either the switch(es) themselves are broken or the chip(s) are fried. I've hunted around but so far no luck, and perhaps this community might know where to find a full switch assembly or compnent parts (or if anyone has a dead Euro-260 in storage and wants to sell me their switch, glad to talk more). It is such a cool little bandsaw I hate to give up on it. I haven't found a part number on this thing, but photos attached.
Thanks to all....
Alan Mix
Corvallis, OR, USA
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Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
I have the same inca bandsaw, I thought it was a regular ol¡¯ switch. Jessie will take care of you, i bought the Inca bandsaw and the 2100 TS from him in 92¡¯. I sold that tablesaw about a year ago for $1200. And that was after using it in my business with 4-5 employees and I even had a power feeder on it Mine has really bad vibration but i use it just for rough tight radius stuff, i do want to fully restore it at some point as I am quite attached to it, Jessie said he could help get to the bottom of the vibration issue but I haven¡¯t had time to connect
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On Oct 10, 2020, at 9:16 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
? Thanks David. Yes, I already have an email off to Jesse, as he used to sell Inca tools and Eagle Tools is a great source. ?I also tried Garrett-Wade (their phone number is on a sticker on the machine, so that is where it was purchased by the previous owner) but they don¡¯t stock old parts. Thanks again. AlanOn Oct 10, 2020, at 3:44 PM, David Sabo via groups.io <sabo_dave@...> wrote:
Jesse at Eagle Tools in L.A.
On Oct 10, 2020, at 6:25 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
?
Are there safety interlocks on the machine? If not, any generic magnetic motor starter set for the appropriate motor current should be fine.
On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
?I have an old Inca Euro-260 bandsaw - very nice small complement to my larger Felder FB600 bandsaw - but unfortunately the on/off switch died. ?I tried to get parts from incamachines.com in France. They are generally quite helpful, but they don't have this part because my saw is a late model US 115V version (circa 1997, Type 342.186.15) and incamachines.com only has the parts for the European models, so they couldn't help on this one. ?According to incamachines.com, those late 1990's machines The switch assembly is a black plastic box with red and green off/on switches actuated by square buttons, plus a place for a safety lock behind the removable blade cover. ?There is some electronic (early plug-in IC chips) controlled by the switches. ?I've confirmed that the power gets to the switches, but either the switch(es) themselves are broken or the chip(s) are fried. ?I've hunted around but so far no luck, and perhaps this community might know where to find a full switch assembly or compnent parts (or if anyone has a dead Euro-260 in storage and wants to sell me their switch, glad to talk more). It is such a cool little bandsaw I hate to give up on it. ?I haven't found a part number on this thing, but photos attached.
Thanks to all....
Alan Mix
Corvallis, OR, USA
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Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Thanks David.
Yes, I already have an email off to Jesse, as he used to sell Inca tools and Eagle Tools is a great source. I also tried Garrett-Wade (their phone number is on a sticker on the machine, so that is where it was purchased by the previous owner) but they don¡¯t stock old parts. Thanks again. Alan
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On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:44 PM, David Sabo via groups.io <sabo_dave@...> wrote:
Jesse at Eagle Tools in L.A.
On Oct 10, 2020, at 6:25 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
?
Are there safety interlocks on the machine? If not, any generic magnetic motor starter set for the appropriate motor current should be fine.
On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
?I have an old Inca Euro-260 bandsaw - very nice small complement to my larger Felder FB600 bandsaw - but unfortunately the on/off switch died. I tried to get parts from incamachines.com in France. They are generally quite helpful, but they don't have this part because my saw is a late model US 115V version (circa 1997, Type 342.186.15) and incamachines.com only has the parts for the European models, so they couldn't help on this one. According to incamachines.com, those late 1990's machines The switch assembly is a black plastic box with red and green off/on switches actuated by square buttons, plus a place for a safety lock behind the removable blade cover. There is some electronic (early plug-in IC chips) controlled by the switches. I've confirmed that the power gets to the switches, but either the switch(es) themselves are broken or the chip(s) are fried. I've hunted around but so far no luck, and perhaps this community might know where to find a full switch assembly or compnent parts (or if anyone has a dead Euro-260 in storage and wants to sell me their switch, glad to talk more). It is such a cool little bandsaw I hate to give up on it. I haven't found a part number on this thing, but photos attached.
Thanks to all....
Alan Mix
Corvallis, OR, USA
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Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Great idea Imran. Thanks I¡¯m not competent to do that, but I can find someone who is.
Alan.
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On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:35 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
Alan,
are you able to verify that the siemens relays are working or not. i do see them available via internet search on PN.
imran
On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
?I have an old Inca Euro-260 bandsaw - very nice small complement to my larger Felder FB600 bandsaw - but unfortunately the on/off switch died. I tried to get parts from incamachines.com in France. They are generally quite helpful, but they don't have this part because my saw is a late model US 115V version (circa 1997, Type 342.186.15) and incamachines.com only has the parts for the European models, so they couldn't help on this one. According to incamachines.com, those late 1990's machines The switch assembly is a black plastic box with red and green off/on switches actuated by square buttons, plus a place for a safety lock behind the removable blade cover. There is some electronic (early plug-in IC chips) controlled by the switches. I've confirmed that the power gets to the switches, but either the switch(es) themselves are broken or the chip(s) are fried. I've hunted around but so far no luck, and perhaps this community might know where to find a full switch assembly or compnent parts (or if anyone has a dead Euro-260 in storage and wants to sell me their switch, glad to talk more). It is such a cool little bandsaw I hate to give up on it. I haven't found a part number on this thing, but photos attached.
Thanks to all....
Alan Mix
Corvallis, OR, USA
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Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Alan,
are you able to verify that the siemens relays are working or not. i do see them available via internet search on PN.
imran
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On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote: ?I have an old Inca Euro-260 bandsaw - very nice small complement to my larger Felder FB600 bandsaw - but unfortunately the on/off switch died. ?I tried to get parts from incamachines.com in France. They are generally quite helpful, but they don't have this part because my saw is a late model US 115V version (circa 1997,? Type 342.186.15)?and incamachines.com only has the parts for the European models, so they couldn't help on this one. ?According to incamachines.com, those late 1990's machines? The switch assembly is a black plastic box with red and green off/on switches actuated by square buttons, plus a place for a safety lock behind the removable blade cover. ?There is some electronic (early plug-in IC chips) controlled by the switches. ?I've confirmed that the power gets to the switches, but either the switch(es) themselves are broken or the chip(s) are fried. ?I've hunted around but so far no luck, and perhaps this community might know where to find a full switch assembly or compnent parts (or if anyone has a dead Euro-260 in storage and wants to sell me their switch, glad to talk more). It is such a cool little bandsaw I hate to give up on it. ?I haven't found a part number on this thing, but photos attached.?
Thanks to all....?
Alan Mix
Corvallis, OR, USA
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Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Thanks TJ Cornish. There is a safety interlock, but it appears to have broken a long time ago and the two wire from the interlock are joined to bypass. The former owner inked a note on the cover that the interlock was gone, with a caution to unplug from the wall when taking off the cover (apparently from a bad experience).
Some generic starter set is a backup plan, for sure, if I can¡¯t find the orginal part. I don¡¯t know what electronic functions are buried in those Seimens chips. The incamachine guys referred to it a poor design decision of the late 1980s. Oh well.
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On Oct 10, 2020, at 3:25 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
Are there safety interlocks on the machine? If not, any generic magnetic motor starter set for the appropriate motor current should be fine.
On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
?I have an old Inca Euro-260 bandsaw - very nice small complement to my larger Felder FB600 bandsaw - but unfortunately the on/off switch died. I tried to get parts from incamachines.com in France. They are generally quite helpful, but they don't have this part because my saw is a late model US 115V version (circa 1997, Type 342.186.15) and incamachines.com only has the parts for the European models, so they couldn't help on this one. According to incamachines.com, those late 1990's machines The switch assembly is a black plastic box with red and green off/on switches actuated by square buttons, plus a place for a safety lock behind the removable blade cover. There is some electronic (early plug-in IC chips) controlled by the switches. I've confirmed that the power gets to the switches, but either the switch(es) themselves are broken or the chip(s) are fried. I've hunted around but so far no luck, and perhaps this community might know where to find a full switch assembly or compnent parts (or if anyone has a dead Euro-260 in storage and wants to sell me their switch, glad to talk more). It is such a cool little bandsaw I hate to give up on it. I haven't found a part number on this thing, but photos attached.
Thanks to all....
Alan Mix
Corvallis, OR, USA
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Re: Seeking Inca #Bandsaw switch
#Bandsaw
Jesse at Eagle Tools in L.A.
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On Oct 10, 2020, at 6:25 PM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:
? Are there safety interlocks on the machine? If not, any generic magnetic motor starter set for the appropriate motor current should be fine.? On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Alan Mix <a.mix@...> wrote:
?I have an old Inca Euro-260 bandsaw - very nice small complement to my larger Felder FB600 bandsaw - but unfortunately the on/off switch died. ?I tried to get parts from incamachines.com in France. They are generally quite helpful, but they don't have this part because my saw is a late model US 115V version (circa 1997,? Type 342.186.15)?and incamachines.com only has the parts for the European models, so they couldn't help on this one. ?According to incamachines.com, those late 1990's machines? The switch assembly is a black plastic box with red and green off/on switches actuated by square buttons, plus a place for a safety lock behind the removable blade cover. ?There is some electronic (early plug-in IC chips) controlled by the switches. ?I've confirmed that the power gets to the switches, but either the switch(es) themselves are broken or the chip(s) are fried. ?I've hunted around but so far no luck, and perhaps this community might know where to find a full switch assembly or compnent parts (or if anyone has a dead Euro-260 in storage and wants to sell me their switch, glad to talk more). It is such a cool little bandsaw I hate to give up on it. ?I haven't found a part number on this thing, but photos attached.?
Thanks to all....?
Alan Mix
Corvallis, OR, USA
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