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Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback

 

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Thanks Bill. I have digital angle cube thingy from Wixey for cannot recall how many yrs and have not changed batteries.

Remember reading about batt drain on some similar DRO maybe it was accurate but likely model have improved over the yrs.

Imran

On Jun 15, 2020, at 11:20 PM, Bill B¨¦langer <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

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Imran,
I¡¯ve had many Wixey read outs and quite sure the batteries last at least a year or two. Certainly nothing like the cheap digital calipers that require batteries every 2 months...

Bill Belanger?


On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:06 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
Mark,

¡°Also if you do do a non mag strip unit like the wixy¡°

By this you mean that it does not work with a mag strip that one could install in OEM fence, correct? Because, it does work with a mag strip. Just curious, wanted to make sure I sm not missing something.

I remember reading issues with battery draining often. Not sure if that was wixey or accurate?

Imran







Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback

 

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Thanks Mark. I was fairly sure that is what you meant. Wixey has a msg strip but it is attached to a bar that reader goes upon. I assume the reader they are using is not as sophisticated as the higher priced units, so has to be sold as a pre assembled mag strip/reader unit. Just a guess.

Imran

On Jun 15, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:

?Imran,?

Now I am confused, partially because I can¡¯t construct a proper sentence, have proper grammar or know how to spell but let me guess that this is what you are saying and is what I meant, with the mag strip dro (like fiama) there is no encoder rail like the wixy and accurate tech unit so nothing is connected and you can flip the rip fence at will

Regards, Mark



On Jun 15, 2020, at 11:06 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

?Mark,

¡°Also if you do do a non mag strip unit like the wixy¡°

By this you mean that it does not work with a mag strip that one could install in OEM fence, correct? Because, it does work with a mag strip. Just curious, wanted to make sure I sm not missing something.

I remember reading issues with battery draining often. Not sure if that was wixey or accurate?

Imran







Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback

 

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Imran,?

Now I am confused, partially because I can¡¯t construct a proper sentence, have proper grammar or know how to spell but let me guess that this is what you are saying and is what I meant, with the mag strip dro (like fiama) there is no encoder rail like the wixy and accurate tech unit so nothing is connected and you can flip the rip fence at will

Regards, Mark



On Jun 15, 2020, at 11:06 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

?Mark,

¡°Also if you do do a non mag strip unit like the wixy¡°

By this you mean that it does not work with a mag strip that one could install in OEM fence, correct? Because, it does work with a mag strip. Just curious, wanted to make sure I sm not missing something.

I remember reading issues with battery draining often. Not sure if that was wixey or accurate?

Imran







Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback

 

Imran,
I¡¯ve had many Wixey read outs and quite sure the batteries last at least a year or two. Certainly nothing like the cheap digital calipers that require batteries every 2 months...

Bill Belanger?


On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:06 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
Mark,

¡°Also if you do do a non mag strip unit like the wixy¡°

By this you mean that it does not work with a mag strip that one could install in OEM fence, correct? Because, it does work with a mag strip. Just curious, wanted to make sure I sm not missing something.

I remember reading issues with battery draining often. Not sure if that was wixey or accurate?

Imran







Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback

 

Mark,

¡°Also if you do do a non mag strip unit like the wixy¡°

By this you mean that it does not work with a mag strip that one could install in OEM fence, correct? Because, it does work with a mag strip. Just curious, wanted to make sure I sm not missing something.

I remember reading issues with battery draining often. Not sure if that was wixey or accurate?

Imran


Re: Power drive option on saw

 

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I meant 10-15 hrs a week...

Regards, Mark



On Jun 15, 2020, at 10:05 PM, Mark Kessler via groups.io <mkessler10@...> wrote:


Re: Power drive option on saw

 

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Hi Bob,?
Thanks, ?that dog catches more snakes, moles, birds then any dog we ever had just hoping she doesn¡¯t run into the black bear that has been roaming around getting into everyones trash...

Regards, Mark



On Jun 15, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Bob Frizell <bob.frizell@...> wrote:

?I like ur pics, even the green snake!
Nice work
Rgrds
Bob F


Re: Power drive option on saw

 

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Yea guys, I am totally sold. I wouldn't have been in the past, ironically now that I am no longer doing it for my main source of income I need my limited time in the shop efficient, I found that the power drive on the J/P has been great and a time saver. ?

In the non skiing months I normally get in maybe 10-15 hrs a month but because of Covid I am working at home and getting in like 25-35 hrs a week, point is have spent a lot more time on the saw finding myself chasing cuts, guessing ect....?



Regards, Mark



On Jun 15, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:

?Power Drive for height and angle - worthwhile options. They seemed costly upfront, but over time I believe you will appreciate that it simply works and is repeatable. I just finished some legs for a dining table that had angles that I was able to repeat over and over. Obviously, the robust and tried and true methods developed prior to digital height & angle changes still work but with these options, it makes it easier to 100% focus on the project, not the tool.?

And if you use the rip fence as a bump stop often (say in a production capacity) the Digi-Drive would be a consideration. It's costly, but compared to a Tiger Fence it's close in price. I would love to have a Felder option for a panel mounted manual lead-screw rip fence adjustment, like the Martin...I can dream right??


Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback

 

Mark, the videos links were inserted because the OP does not appear to have the knowledge both you and I have and needs material links to answer those questions. We would not need the links because we know the answers.


Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback

 

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I had an accurate technology scale for almost 20 years always worked, used it on slider xcut and rip and at one point on a cabinet saw. I have had to flip the rip several times due to extra long xcut with solids. I didn¡¯t even bother to watch the videos or check the links but i know what they are doing, there is nothing new or novel about attaching a dro to a rip fence, regardless of how easy it is to remove to flip and even if I didn¡¯t ever want to flip the rip its to clunky for me to save $200-$250 for a less elegant solution like a mag strip dro but thats me

Regards, Mark

On Jun 15, 2020, at 8:53 PM, chrjparks@... wrote:

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[Edited Message Follows]

The saw owner in that link copied my set up and I found it searching the internet some years ago. The Wixey works well and as a magnet is the only attachment to the rip fence head absolute precision in fitting is not necessary because the attachment is self adjusting but that will not change the relative relationship of fence to reading head. One reason it really shines is if you have a fine adjustment on the rip fence, get it close and wind the head to obtain the desired measurment, no bumping etc to get that last little bit.?

The Wixey is a fairly dumb DRO in that it can only be calibrated at Zero unlike its most common competitor Proscale which can be calibrated to a random cut length. Here is a link to a proscale fitted to a normal cabinet saw
?and while I have never used one it looks to be a better thing than the Wixey as it seems to be more flexibe in calibration and more robust in use though I doubt if it is more accurate unless the resolution is better. A link to fitting a Wixey?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUaBOSx4--o&t=499s


I would not be without a DRO of whatever brand on the rip fence because I am constantly using as a measuring bump stop and it is a rare day it gets used to rip anything and it is repeatable within the resolution of the instrument which on the Wixey is about 5 thousandths of an inch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUaBOSx4--o&t=499s


Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback

 

I used a length of rip fence that is 200mm long and it sits on the rip fence head with no need to rotate it out of the way and if I want to rip I fit a full length fence to do that. It is a very rare day that I need a full length fence and because it does not over hang it never gets in the way and I don't have to walk around the damn thing.?


Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback

 
Edited

The saw owner in that link copied my set up and I found it searching the internet some years ago. The Wixey works well and as a magnet is the only attachment to the rip fence head absolute precision in fitting is not necessary because the attachment is self adjusting but that will not change the relative relationship of fence to reading head. One reason it really shines is if you have a fine adjustment on the rip fence, get it close and wind the head to obtain the desired measurment, no bumping etc to get that last little bit.?

The Wixey is a fairly dumb DRO in that it can only be calibrated at Zero unlike its most common competitor Proscale which can be calibrated to a random cut length. Here is a link to a proscale fitted to a normal cabinet saw
?and while I have never used one it looks to be a better thing than the Wixey as it seems to be more flexibe in calibration and more robust in use though I doubt if it is more accurate unless the resolution is better. A link to fitting a Wixey?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUaBOSx4--o&t=499s


I would not be without a DRO of whatever brand on the rip fence because I am constantly using as a measuring bump stop and it is a rare day it gets used to rip anything and it is repeatable within the resolution of the instrument which on the Wixey is about 5 thousandths of an inch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUaBOSx4--o&t=499s


Re: Power drive option on saw

 

I like ur pics, even the green snake!
Nice work
Rgrds
Bob F


Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback

 

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Probably precise enough, I have heard good things about them but I think they are cheap and wouldn¡¯t buy another, as I have also used higher quality ones. I would just spend the $350 or so for the fiama unit.?

Also if you do do a non mag strip unit like the wixy on the rip you won¡¯t be able to flip the fence 180deg out of the way without creating some sort of bracket to disconnect the reader, probably takes seconds but imho a pain...

Regards, Mark


Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback

 

I saw on another forum someone who put a wixey digital fence for the rip fence on a K3.



I am wondering whether someone has already done so or someone can shim in about how precise and repeatable it can be. For $120 box, that looks dirt cheap for precision.

I am sure anyone can put that on a K500, but I wonder whether a small move in this additional fence or just the fact that this fence will not be 100% parallel with the main fence can have an impact on the precision.

Like you setup everything do a cut test at 4", perfect every-time, but when you move for a cut at 8" you are no more at 8" because your additional fence is not parallel to the main fence.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated,

Bill


Re: WTB: Aigner Thickness stop

 

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I went down this path a few months back ..? Aigner stopped making them and none are in stock.? They are a rare gem. ?ALSO the pressure jaws are no longer made although a few are still is stock until they¡¯re gone.? ?????

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Regards,

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Chris Perren

512-415-6951

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of G Lewis
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 12:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FOG] WTB: Aigner Thickness stop

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I am looking for an Aigner Thickness stop.

I thought I would see if anyone has one the are no longer using and would like to sell? Digital would be nice...

G


WTB: Aigner Thickness stop

 

I am looking for an Aigner Thickness stop.

I thought I would see if anyone has one the are no longer using and would like to sell? Digital would be nice...

G


Re: Power drive option on saw

 

Power Drive for height and angle - worthwhile options. They seemed costly upfront, but over time I believe you will appreciate that it simply works and is repeatable. I just finished some legs for a dining table that had angles that I was able to repeat over and over. Obviously, the robust and tried and true methods developed prior to digital height & angle changes still work but with these options, it makes it easier to 100% focus on the project, not the tool.?

And if you use the rip fence as a bump stop often (say in a production capacity) the Digi-Drive would be a consideration. It's costly, but compared to a Tiger Fence it's close in price. I would love to have a Felder option for a panel mounted manual lead-screw rip fence adjustment, like the Martin...I can dream right??


Re: What Grease to use for Saw Height/Elevation Guide

 

Cliff,

Thanks for the details. Supposedly there is a grease fitting as the manual recommends using a grease gun. I have looked cursorily and not seen one. Will have to take a closer look in a day or two to see if I locate it.

Imran

On Jun 15, 2020, at 9:36 AM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote:

?I have tried oil, I have tried wipe on Red grease, I have used the
DowCorning dry lube with molybdenium disulfide (it is messy) and I have
used Lubriplate in a pressurized can.

My height adjustment rack is hard to access and no grease zerks exsist
That'd have been a nice thing to build in. If I ever take the saw town
I'll install some better way to get lube in.

So far I am favoring the Spray on Lubriplate. The long tube provided
with the can lets me get in and apply it with some relative precision.


On 6/13/20 2:32 PM, imranindiana via groups.io wrote:
K975 manual says to grease the saw height guide every 40 hrs or monthly. It
does not mention/recommend a grease type. I have grease for the shaper
spindle in the gun. I forget what it is but it was recommended here and I
got it from NAPA store. Is it okay to use for the saw height?

Imran



Re: What Grease to use for Saw Height/Elevation Guide

Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
 

I have tried oil,? I have tried? wipe on Red grease, I have used the
DowCorning dry lube with molybdenium disulfide (it is messy) and I have
used? Lubriplate in a pressurized can.

My? height adjustment rack is hard to access and no grease zerks exsist?
That'd have been a nice thing to build in.? If I ever take the saw town
I'll install some? better way to get lube? in.

So far I am favoring the Spray on Lubriplate.? The long tube provided
with the can lets me get? in and apply it? with some relative precision.

On 6/13/20 2:32 PM, imranindiana via groups.io wrote:
K975 manual says to grease the saw height guide every 40 hrs or monthly. It
does not mention/recommend a grease type. I have grease for the shaper
spindle in the gun. I forget what it is but it was recommended here and I
got it from NAPA store. Is it okay to use for the saw height?

Imran