Do you have a cheap 1" blade to play with first?? If you are adjusting and learning the quirks of the machine, I'd start with a cheap blade.? If the CT slides forward on the wheel and scrapes the guard, the expensive carbide will be toast.? The tension needed
will be lower but you can mimic the setting needed for the CT.? Dave
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I will chime in.? I started the thread on the FB 710 vibration.? Murray's experience with his N4400 is similar to my observation of a brand-new FB 710, just delivered from the Sacramento Felder warehouse.? I uploaded a sound clip of the noise my FB 710
makes when turned on without a blade (a Lenox Woodmaster CT 1" in on a UPS truck somewhere coming to me).? My observation is that the motor pulley and the bottom fly wheel pulley are not co-planar.? I am delaying making adjustment to the saw until I receive
a blade, install and tension it.? I want to see if the problem is due to lack of a blade under tension.? Felder technician is aware of the issue.? I plan to report back to the group once I get this problem on my FB 710 sort out.
On the topic of Italian bandsaw.? Before I purchased the FB 710, I looked at the SCM formula line and had my sight on the S 600p.? I reach out to the SCM product line manager, who referred me to a sale rep for my region.? I contacted that person.? It was a
less-than-desirable experience.? I was turned off my the lack of interest in communication and the blatant push to sell machine.? I didn't get the sense that there would be much product support post purchase either.? Maybe I was inquiring about the product
at a bad time.? It was just not meant to be.? I have been happy with Felder, so I went and bought a FB 710.? Life is full of compromises.??
SW
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Re: Big Squeeze clamp project
is? it enough for just 1 clamp ? I'll take it
On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 05:44:57 PM PST, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:
I have a spare shaped aluminum tube piece for a big squeeze clamp if anyone would like it. $20
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Big Squeeze clamp project
I have a spare shaped aluminum tube piece for a big squeeze clamp if anyone would like it. $20
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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Thanks again James. ? ?I use Timberwolf blades and have the teeth overhang the upper wheel. ?I know that I played with different tensioning and will go through the process again. ?
Have a great evening,
jay
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I will chime in.? I started the thread on the FB 710 vibration.? Murray's experience with his N4400 is similar to my observation of a brand-new FB 710, just delivered from the Sacramento Felder warehouse.? I uploaded a sound clip of the noise my FB 710 makes when turned on without a blade (a Lenox Woodmaster CT 1" in on a UPS truck somewhere coming to me).? My observation is that the motor pulley and the bottom fly wheel pulley are not co-planar.? I am delaying making adjustment to the saw until I receive a blade, install and tension it.? I want to see if the problem is due to lack of a blade under tension.? Felder technician is aware of the issue.? I plan to report back to the group once I get this problem on my FB 710 sort out.
On the topic of Italian bandsaw.? Before I purchased the FB 710, I looked at the SCM formula line and had my sight on the S 600p.? I reach out to the SCM product line manager, who referred me to a sale rep for my region.? I contacted that person.? It was a less-than-desirable experience.? I was turned off my the lack of interest in communication and the blatant push to sell machine.? I didn't get the sense that there would be much product support post purchase either.? Maybe I was inquiring about the product at a bad time.? It was just not meant to be.? I have been happy with Felder, so I went and bought a FB 710.? Life is full of compromises.??
SW
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Is this also normal? Does Felder have any type of return?policy?
Bill B¨¦langer
As usual, it would be better to talk to David sooner.? I didn't do that with my first FB510 which made excessive grinding and clanking noises when adjusting the blade guide assembly up and down.? Phone calls and messages to Felder were frustrating and worse.? Ultimately, a video persuaded them that a replacement was necessary.? Even then, they thought I should do the return crating and shipping.? A short discussion of the California Civil Code solved that and the new machine has been smooth running, powerful and generally satisfactory.? Nevertheless, blade changes and veneer resawing require careful tuning and adjusting.??
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As usual, it would be better to talk to David sooner.? I didn't do that with my first FB510 which made excessive grinding and clanking noises when adjusting the blade guide assembly up and down.? Phone calls and messages to Felder were frustrating and worse.? Ultimately, a video persuaded them that a replacement was necessary.? Even then, they thought I should do the return crating and shipping.? A short discussion of the California Civil Code solved that and the new machine has been smooth running, powerful and generally satisfactory.? Nevertheless, blade changes and veneer resawing require careful tuning and adjusting.??
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Jay,
I install the blade so the blade teeth overhang the upper wheel. I used to install the blade on the center of the upper wheel, the tracking was terrible, can't cut straight.
Also, the blade makes difference too. The Fleder steel blade I got for free produces the lowest quality cut. I also tension the blade one size up. For example, 3/4" blade, I tension it to the mark for 1" inch blade.
My FB510 is levelled on the garage floor, supported by the wood blank. I sharpen the steel blade myself using Dremel, pretty easy and fast.
James
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 7:18 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: Thanks for checking this James. ? That is how my saw should work. ? I¡¯m going to work on making my saw better.
I really appreciate the information.
Have a great day,
jay
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Thanks for checking this James. ? That is how my saw should work. ? I¡¯m going to work on making my saw better.
I really appreciate the information.
Have a great day,
jay
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Sure wish mine was that smooth. Who makes these saws anyway?? The same people who make the sliders and jointer planers?
Bill Belanger
Jay,
I fully tightened the knob, adjusted the ceramic guide to ensure the guide does not touch the blade, no visible vibration, see the video.
James ?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:56 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: Thanks James. ? Maybe this brings peace of mind for me. ? I know that it is not a precision machine, but this should not be happening.? The Felder tech was puzzled as well.
Have a great evening,
jay
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Jay,
I fully tightened the knob, adjusted the ceramic guide to ensure the guide does not touch the blade, no visible vibration, see the video.
James ?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:56 PM jay bodnar < jbod@...> wrote: Thanks James. ? Maybe this brings peace of mind for me. ? I know that it is not a precision machine, but this should not be happening.? The Felder tech was puzzled as well.
Have a great evening,
jay
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Re: Anyone have a digi drive manual?
Problem is the table is all the way down and my height readout says .250 so it thinks the table is near the top. I can but the f key and run it up manually but only to .120 and then when I go down the table bottoms out and gives an error message. There's got to be a way to get the table to the top and then reset it.
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Re: Anyone have a digi drive manual?
There¡¯s an AD 741 user manual in the file section manuals on the fog site. Maybe that would help you
Bill Belanger?
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 15:33 Jeff Monson < gat@...> wrote: Need some help. In my recent move I can't for the life of me find my manuals for my Felder equipment. Today I plugged in my 2006? AD 741 ( it's been in storage for a year) and I can't get the table to move it's full stroke. This is a Digi drive machine so I think something got messed up in the height indicator. I know there is a way to reset all this but I can't remember. Anyone with the procedure or a copy of the manual I would greatly appreciate some help.?
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Anyone have a digi drive manual?
Need some help. In my recent move I can't for the life of me find my manuals for my Felder equipment. Today I plugged in my 2006? AD 741 ( it's been in storage for a year) and I can't get the table to move it's full stroke. This is a Digi drive machine so I think something got messed up in the height indicator. I know there is a way to reset all this but I can't remember. Anyone with the procedure or a copy of the manual I would greatly appreciate some help.?
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Here is another home made version.? If you do a web search for "Overarm Blade Guard Gordon Sampson" you'll find a PDF of an article many years ago on Woodcentral.? (I wasn't sure if external links are allowed here so I didn't post a direct link.)
The ceiling mount was inspired by some photos posted by Sam Blasco on the MinMax forum in 2003. You cannot execute the?ceiling mount of you have 20 ft ceilings but for 8-10 ft it's no problem.
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In the photos below you will see that I executed the ceiling mount a bit different than Sam's and also provided left-to-right adjustability. When I am ripping, I can move the guard to the left to make more room for narrow cuts (use a push block!). This position also works good for edge trimming since more of the dust goes into the collector rather than out the side. Moving the guard to the right also gives me clearance for my miter guide.??I have a stepstool (3-step ladder) nearby to the saw. I stand on that, loosen the four knobs approx 1/2 turn, slide the guard into the new position and retighten. This takes about 30 seconds. The solution may not be what the pros want, but for this amateur it works just fine.
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I intended to use telescoping aluminum square tube to provide vertical adjustability but I was unable to find enough for both supports. So the front one uses the telescoping tubes while the rear one uses a wooden support and an aluminum tube.
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Overall I am satisfied - the guard does a great job of dust collection and keeps my hands away from the blade.  ??   ?? ?? JM Downingtown, PA
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Congratulations! The best part is peeling off those little stickers :)
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Re: K500 blade height adjustment with Felder Dial indicator for system handwheels
Like Mac just said gauge blocks, and once you become in tune with your machine you'll know how much height a slight turn of the wheel will give you. It's really a pain to walk around the slider to view a gauge on the height adjustment.?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression" <airtightclamps@...> Date: 2020-02-15 12:25 p.m. (GMT-05:00) To: [email protected], david.hawxhurst@..., 'Bill James' <xxrb2010@...>, jonathan.smith@... Subject: Re: [FOG] K500 blade height adjustment with Felder Dial indicator for system handwheels
What i use is gauge blocks or shaper bushing example 10 mm deep,,,, take 10mm high shaper bushing zero to top dead center and makes no difference what diameter is do same on shaper for height and depth.? mac,,,
On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 11:08:10 AM CST, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote:
I have a height gage but would like to have the hand wheel version height indicator so that I could make changes on the fly similar to setting stops on a fence.? Fast.? The down side is that it has to be re-stet ?to each blade diameter so not convenient to my 200mm ?dado and 315mm combo (or mental math can be calculated at a certain risk). ?And then there is the worm gear backlash to deal with.? A much better set up would be a dro mounted on the trunion as in the Power Drive version.? The one I have on the shaper spindle is very handy.? It can be re-zero'ed at any position.? I also use the one on the planer but it is not as accurate so confirm final thickness with a caliper. ? And then there is the problem with my calipers coming out of tune because I dropped them too many times.? And then there is my bi-focals.? I would love to have a big red read out and zero button. ? Jon S ? ? Curious as why you would need/want to have this? I use a height gauge for setting dado blade height its quick and easy. Well maybe not quite as fast as built in gauge.
Would some sort of aftermarket DRO gauge work? Wixely come to mind as one of the least expensive ones.
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Re: K500 blade height adjustment with Felder Dial indicator for system handwheels
Yes, but,,,, the machine has to be stopped to make gage block adjustments.? The other thing I did not mention is a dro works in inches, my preferred system. ? ?
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From: airtightclamps@... [mailto:airtightclamps@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 9:25 AM
To: [email protected]; david.hawxhurst@...; 'Bill James'; jonathan.smith@...
Subject: Re: [FOG] K500 blade height adjustment with Felder Dial indicator for system handwheels? What i use is gauge blocks or shaper bushing example 10 mm deep,,,, take 10mm high shaper bushing zero to top dead center and makes no difference what diameter is do same on shaper for height and depth.? On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 11:08:10 AM CST, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote: I have a height gage but would like to have the hand wheel version height indicator so that I could make changes on the fly similar to setting stops on a fence.? Fast.? The down side is that it has to be re-stet ?to each blade diameter so not convenient to my 200mm ?dado and 315mm combo (or mental math can be calculated at a certain risk). ?And then there is the worm gear backlash to deal with.? A much better set up would be a dro mounted on the trunion as in the Power Drive version.? The one I have on the shaper spindle is very handy.? It can be re-zero'ed at any position.? I also use the one on the planer but it is not as accurate so confirm final thickness with a caliper. ? And then there is the problem with my calipers coming out of tune because I dropped them too many times.? And then there is my bi-focals.? I would love to have a big red read out and zero button. ? Jon S ? ? Curious as why you would need/want to have this? I use a height gauge for setting dado blade height its quick and easy. Well maybe not quite as fast as built in gauge.
Would some sort of aftermarket DRO gauge work? Wixely come to mind as one of the least expensive ones.
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Re: K500 blade height adjustment with Felder Dial indicator for system handwheels
What i use is gauge blocks or shaper bushing example 10 mm deep,,,, take 10mm high shaper bushing zero to top dead center and makes no difference what diameter is do same on shaper for height and depth.? mac,,,
On Saturday, February 15, 2020, 11:08:10 AM CST, Jonathan Smith <jonathan.smith@...> wrote:
I have a height gage but would like to have the hand wheel version height indicator so that I could make changes on the fly similar to setting stops on a fence.? Fast.? The down side is that it has to be re-stet ?to each blade diameter so not convenient to my 200mm ?dado and 315mm combo (or mental math can be calculated at a certain risk). ?And then there is the worm gear backlash to deal with.? A much better set up would be a dro mounted on the trunion as in the Power Drive version.? The one I have on the shaper spindle is very handy.? It can be re-zero'ed at any position.? I also use the one on the planer but it is not as accurate so confirm final thickness with a caliper. ? And then there is the problem with my calipers coming out of tune because I dropped them too many times.? And then there is my bi-focals.? I would love to have a big red read out and zero button. ? Jon S ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:52 AM
To: Bill James; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] K500 blade height adjustment with Felder Dial indicator for system handwheels ? Curious as why you would need/want to have this? I use a height gauge for setting dado blade height its quick and easy. Well maybe not quite as fast as built in gauge.
Would some sort of aftermarket DRO gauge work? Wixely come to mind as one of the least expensive ones.
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Re: K500 blade height adjustment with Felder Dial indicator for system handwheels
I have a height gage but would like to have the hand wheel version height indicator so that I could make changes on the fly similar to setting stops on a fence.? Fast.? The down side is that it has to be re-stet ?to each blade diameter so not convenient to my 200mm ?dado and 315mm combo (or mental math can be calculated at a certain risk). ?And then there is the worm gear backlash to deal with.? A much better set up would be a dro mounted on the trunion as in the Power Drive version.? The one I have on the shaper spindle is very handy.? It can be re-zero'ed at any position.? I also use the one on the planer but it is not as accurate so confirm final thickness with a caliper. ? And then there is the problem with my calipers coming out of tune because I dropped them too many times.? And then there is my bi-focals.? I would love to have a big red read out and zero button. ? Jon S ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:52 AM
To: Bill James; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] K500 blade height adjustment with Felder Dial indicator for system handwheels? Curious as why you would need/want to have this? I use a height gauge for setting dado blade height its quick and easy. Well maybe not quite as fast as built in gauge.
Would some sort of aftermarket DRO gauge work? Wixely come to mind as one of the least expensive ones.
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