Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
Thanks David, for the reference to Shop Carts - Topeka.?? My old back has been asking me to get a panel cart for some time.? My wallet says, 'not now',?? lol.?? Thanks again,??? RichM
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
OK, I just can¡¯t help myself when it comes to these carts. ?So here is my perspective.
I have the Barth 500V in my shop and love it, but frankly it¡¯s not terribly robust as a scissors-lift cart. ?The other cart I have in my shop which I love is a tilting panel cart made by Shop Carts in Topeka. ?Now this is well built, and at $1,500 a veritable bargain compared to the Felder and Rangate units. ?It doesn¡¯t have the lifting range of the others, but the tilting top helps a lot more when it comes to dealing with large panels. ?I have added a 7x 40¡± Appleply top to mine and it works very well as a roll around bench when tilted flat. ?If memory serves, Brian Lamb has the Hafele equivalent. ?
I bring this up here not to bash Felder or Rangate, but to encourage users to consider usage and the cost/value relationship.
This is the cart I have (in addition to my Barth 500):
It¡¯s been a while since I looked over the Felder Fat 300 carts. ?I know lots of people have and love them, but the Fat 300 and the Rangate units have the same lift capacity at 600 pounds, which isn¡¯t exactly Mil-Spec. ?There are lots of other carts on the market with better weight capacity at significantly less money, so there must be some pretty serious margin in the Felder and Rangate units. ?Here¡¯s just one example - it would be interesting to compare the weight (of the bench, not capacity) of a Fat 300 to this Jet. ?Now, the Jet is made in China, so is my Jet pallet jack which has given me less trouble over the years than the Barth - go figure.
?My Barth 500V is rated at 1,000 pounds, and even so, it doesn¡¯t impress me with robust build quality. ?I love the Barth cart, but at $10K now, whew!!!
David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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On Jul 11, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
Could somebody on here who has a Fat 300 S lift table confirm this description detail Felder states about this table. ?See attached picture. ?Circled in red describing the castor configuration. ?Essentially does this have four locking casters then? ?Thx?
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On Jul 11, 2023, at 5:06 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Found the Rengate page. ?They offer a ¡°300 Large¡± model, but not sure of the exact frame dimensions.? On Jul 11, 2023, at 4:57 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Does Rengate only offer the one model size, the 300?
Thx,
Wade On Jul 11, 2023, at 4:45 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Ed,
When I got the rangate I copied the top that Joe Calhoon made for his at the Alpine shop.? I used 5/4 Maple.
No holes in the top.? I have another workbench with a parf top that I made.
The Rangate is a quality cart.? I also have a Husky adjustable top cart too.? Great for the price, but not the same.
PK
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
PK, would you mind sharing photos of your Rangate cart top? I was going to use ash or maple for the top. Wondering what other creative things folks have done.
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
On mine two casters swivel and lock the wheels from moving.? Two others swivel or lock in alignment with the frame and table.? This description looks accurate -
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Could somebody on here who has a Fat 300 S lift table confirm this description detail Felder states about this table.? See attached picture.? Circled in red describing the castor configuration.? Essentially does this have four locking casters then?? Thx?
? Found the Rengate page.? They offer a ¡°300 Large¡± model, but not sure of the exact frame dimensions.? ? Does Rengate only offer the one model size, the 300?
Thx,
Wade On Jul 11, 2023, at 4:45 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Ed,
When I got the rangate I copied the top that Joe Calhoon made for his at the Alpine shop.? I used 5/4 Maple.
No holes in the top.? I have another workbench with a parf top that I made.
The Rangate is a quality cart.? I also have a Husky adjustable top cart too.? Great for the price, but not the same.
PK
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
Could somebody on here who has a Fat 300 S lift table confirm this description detail Felder states about this table. ?See attached picture. ?Circled in red describing the castor configuration. ?Essentially does this have four locking casters then? ?Thx?
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On Jul 11, 2023, at 5:06 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Found the Rengate page. ?They offer a ¡°300 Large¡± model, but not sure of the exact frame dimensions.? On Jul 11, 2023, at 4:57 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Does Rengate only offer the one model size, the 300?
Thx,
Wade On Jul 11, 2023, at 4:45 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Ed,
When I got the rangate I copied the top that Joe Calhoon made for his at the Alpine shop.? I used 5/4 Maple.
No holes in the top.? I have another workbench with a parf top that I made.
The Rangate is a quality cart.? I also have a Husky adjustable top cart too.? Great for the price, but not the same.
PK
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
Found the Rengate page. ?They offer a ¡°300 Large¡± model, but not sure of the exact frame dimensions.?
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On Jul 11, 2023, at 4:57 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Does Rengate only offer the one model size, the 300?
Thx,
Wade On Jul 11, 2023, at 4:45 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Ed,
When I got the rangate I copied the top that Joe Calhoon made for his at the Alpine shop.? I used 5/4 Maple.
No holes in the top.? I have another workbench with a parf top that I made.
The Rangate is a quality cart.? I also have a Husky adjustable top cart too.? Great for the price, but not the same.
PK
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
Does Rengate only offer the one model size, the 300?
Thx,
Wade
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On Jul 11, 2023, at 4:45 PM, PK <pk@...> wrote:
?Ed,
When I got the rangate I copied the top that Joe Calhoon made for his at the Alpine shop.? I used 5/4 Maple.
No holes in the top.? I have another workbench with a parf top that I made.
The Rangate is a quality cart.? I also have a Husky adjustable top cart too.? Great for the price, but not the same.
PK
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
Ed Mazuronis,
Are the four locking casters a standard build option from them? ?
Thx,
Wade
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On Jul 11, 2023, at 4:00 PM, Ed Mazuronis via groups.io <egmiii@...> wrote:
?Thanks everyone. I ended up ordering the Rangate cart with 4 locking casters. I assume it will be here sometime next week. I¡¯ll share photos once I get a top built.
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
Ed,
When I got the rangate I copied the top that Joe Calhoon made for his at the Alpine shop.? I used 5/4 Maple.
No holes in the top.? I have another workbench with a parf top that I made.
The Rangate is a quality cart.? I also have a Husky adjustable top cart too.? Great for the price, but not the same.
PK
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
As an FYI, when I was thinking about the Rangate cart before I went with the Husky, Greg at Rangate (this was in August, 2022) told me they can make a top in any size I want and can even have the 22mm holes like the Barth Bench.?
Not sure what is happening with that currently, but an FYI.
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Re: Saw just ain't cutting right
Ed, lack of power sounds like a loose belt.?
Regards from Perth
Derek
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
Thanks everyone. I ended up ordering the Rangate cart with 4 locking casters. I assume it will be here sometime next week. I¡¯ll share photos once I get a top built.
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
Yep ¡ª they are pretty great although I¡¯d like another two locks. ?It¡¯s only an issue when on a very unlevel portion of my garage floor.
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On Jul 11, 2023, at 12:46 PM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
Did you keep the original wheels? ?
Wade On Jul 11, 2023, at 11:31 AM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
?I was one of the early buyers of the Rangate 300 cart. ?I built a table for it and couldn't be happier. ?Well, I could if it was half as much... <IMG_3836.jpeg> <IMG_3834.jpeg> <IMG_3833.jpeg> <IMG_3831.jpeg> <IMG_3830.jpeg>
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Did you keep the original wheels? ?
Wade On Jul 11, 2023, at 11:31 AM, habacomike via groups.io <habacomike@...> wrote:
?I was one of the early buyers of the Rangate 300 cart. ?I built a table for it and couldn't be happier. ?Well, I could if it was half as much... <IMG_3836.jpeg> <IMG_3834.jpeg> <IMG_3833.jpeg> <IMG_3831.jpeg> <IMG_3830.jpeg>
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Thanks Brian. ?I'll try that.
For some reason, the group emails were bouncing but now I seem to have fixed it...
Mike
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
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Re: Rangate 300 Lift Cart
Wouldn¡¯t even consider anything from Husky, but that Barth 300XL & Felder Fat 300S look really nice, especially because these two offer the height adjustment from both sides of the cart. ?
Does anyone have the frame dimensions for the Barth 300 XL?? And Cost too?
Thx,
Wade? ?I have a 500v (not used as a mobile cart) and I have seen other lift carts.? I was thinking about the Rangate lift cart as my mobile cart after a shop revision, and it was suggested I get a Husky from Home Depot.? They have been mentioned on this forum with great reviews.? I went with that.? A few inches less wide, which was perfect for navigating areas where I had a bit less clearance than ideal.? Wheels upgraded to larger ones.? Super easy to move around as it is so light, yet no problem supporting quite a load of wood.
And.... what a $$$ savings!!!? Now, no, it is not of the "build quality" of Rangate or Barth, but for me, the Husky suits me better and I would not want to swap it for a more robust cart unless it was to sell the robust cart, and use the money to buy another Husky and have $ left over.
Something to consider.?
-- Kind regards,Brian D. Milidrag
New Century Realtors
200 E. Big Beaver Rd.| Troy, MI | 48084
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Re: Saw just ain't cutting right
Have you checked toe in/out? Do you get burning on one side or the other of the blade on the cut stock?
Brian Lamb blamb11@... www.lambtoolworks.com
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On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:51 AM, Edward Cohen <ecohentoo@...> wrote:
Hello to all Felder owners,
It's been quite a while since I posted. I have owned my single phase K700 for a bit more than a year now and am not satisfied with the way the saw is cutting. I bought three blades, Felder Silver 315mm /48 tooth universal, Felder ripping blade, and a 12" 60 tooth Tenyru. I send these blades out for sharpening and clean them on a regular basis. I often work with cherry, walnut. maple, and sometimes some exotics. Much to my concern, I seem to struggle cutting these hardwoods. They cut but not with the ease I would expect with a Felder and using quality blades. I really realized that something is wrong when working on a job, I utilized someone elses older Delta contractors saw with a carbide rip blade. It worked effortlessly, cutting smoothly and precise. Maybe some of you fine folks could shed some light on this issue.
I have had other issues with this saw and have been working with Felder tech. The saw started to stop mid cut and it never braked properly. The Felder staff has been helpful and sent me some new circuitry. Hopefully, I have resolved these issues. The jury is out and time will tell. In the meantime, I want to remedy my cutting issues.
Thank you one and all and would appreciate any feedback.
Ed Cohen? E. Cohen Designs? Easthampton, MA 01027
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PRe: [FOG] Advice on dial indicator for checking run of a drill press/input on Novs Voyager Drill Press
Dave ?for specific tasks these are .025 range and expensive . Catch variation in bore so easy to make mate. Designing and building for 50 years
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On Jul 11, 2023, at 8:38 AM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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What size ranges ?? I have the two prong bore indicators but have wanted the three but stocking so many sizes slowed me down.? Dave
Dave another way, quite handy for specific tasks. Three point carbide anvils. <IMG_0808.jpeg>
Designing and building for 50 years
On Jul 10, 2023, at 8:32 AM, David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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In addition to the great advice received, I'd buy a point set with the indicator.? They are not very expensive and come with 10-12 different tips.? Most indicators use the same threads so the tips seem interchangeable.
If only drilling in wood this is irrelevant but if drilling in metal. I've come to depend on my pin gauges to tell me how my old Moore Jig Bore is drilling.? I like to build stuff using pins and I know that usually my holes are oversized .0015-.002.? Drilling
a hole and measuring it with a pin gives you information on how the runout affects the bore.? Sometimes the angular contact bearings used on drill presses will show runout when not under load but will tighten up loaded as that is how the bearings are designed.?
I'm not familiar with the Nova but if you work much with metal, pin gauges tell you a lot and you don't need an expensive precision set for most work.
Dave
I have three dial indicators - two Wen and a Teclock. The Wen¡¯s were very inexpensive; the price of the Teclock is lost in time. All three are serviceable and give repeatable results. For setting up machines they seem to be adequate,
One of my mag bases is the old style with separate arms. The other is a brand name with an articulated arm like the one in David Best¡¯s r]suggestion. Both work, but the articulated one is much easier to use. I use these very sporadically, and there is a definite
learning curve to the old style and I have to re-climb that learning curve every time I use it. The old style has a fine adjuster that my articulated arm does not. I rarely feel a need to use that fine adjuster.
Some bases attach to a ug on the back of the indicator, and others attach to the shaft of the indicator. I favor gripping the shaft, particularly when trying to get parallel to a saw table. Make sure your base and indicator are compatible.
I have the Nova Voyager. I like the computer speed control. I usually use the speeds suggested by the machine, but some folks disagree with those suggestions. It has a relatively generous work table. Other than the fancy DVR it is a pretty basic light drill
press.
It has no work light, and I went through several iterations before I found a light that works. No laser designator, but I¡¯m not sure those are that helpful.
I tried once to update the computer, but was not successful. One day perhaps ?I¡¯ll try again. One has to install a program on a laptop and take the laptop to the drill press to do the update. That is a real nuisance, and the update instructions are not easy
to follow.
Not too long ago I was having issues with run-out. The quill seemed to be true, so I replaced the original chuck with an Albrecht (maybe I am spelling that correctly) keyless chuck with integral Morse taper. I should have spent the time and effort to remove
and re-set the original chuck to try to get it aligned better before I spent the money on a new chuck. The Nova depth indicator occluded the upper ring on the keyless chuck just enough that I could not tighten the chuck. Fortunately a friend was able to mill
a little off the bottom of the depth indicator and now the chuck works the way it should.
By the way, the new chuck cost $500 through a US supplier. I found out too late that an outfit in the UK would sell it and send it to me for half of that.
To make a long story short, it is a decent consumer-grade drill press. I love the DVR and will never go back to changing belts, but would certainly look for that feature in sturdier drill presses if I had to replace my Nova.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S and A941
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Re: AD941 Planer Thickness Variation
¡°so I think it got my mind obsessing¡¡±
We call that the FOG effect?
mk
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