I’ll have to file that Rotagrip name. It would have been much cheaper.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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David, I paid $553 including shipping and Idaho sales tax. That compares with the $553 price listed in the Royal Products web site. It was sold through Amazon by Travers Tool Co., Flushing, NY.
It looks like prices for this can go as high as $940!
Royal Products presented this as their product. Royal is an American company, but they do say these chucks are made in Germany.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I’m not sure what you paid for your Albrecht, but I have found it much less expensive to order from across the pond. ?Here is where I get my Albrecht, Royal, Vertex, and a bunch of other stuff - the discount on eliminating the VAT is typically equivalent to the shipping cost. ?I order from Rotagrip at least 3X per year - great people.
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I just ordered an Albrecht keyless chuck with integral shank for my Nova. Royal is really proud of their chucks, so I hope it helps.
I was burning drill bits in medium hardwoods, so checked run-out. With a machined indicator pin I was getting 0.007” run-out, which is Nova’s specification. Checking the quill and the chuck end of the arbor, the needle on my indicator barely moved, so the problem is probably in the chuck.
In a week I will know if it helped.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I just ordered an Albrecht keyless chuck with integral shank for my Nova. Royal is really proud of their chucks, so I hope it helps.
I was burning drill bits in medium hardwoods, so checked run-out. With a machined indicator pin I was getting 0.007” run-out, which is Nova’s specification. Checking the quill and the chuck end of the arbor, the needle on my indicator barely moved, so the problem is probably in the chuck.
In a week I will know if it helped.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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Re: Scoring Blade Durability
[ Edited?]. Apologies on the last name.? John Adank,
I have always bought all of my main blades in pairs, this way I always have a sharp one waiting.?
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 11:03 AM, John WI <jnadank@...> wrote:
? I’ve been very satisfied with my Kanefusa main plywood blade and scoring blade. ?The cut quality has been suburb I read oak plywood as well as other species. ?The only drawback is the two blade minimum order. ?I may be interested in splitting the order if you’re interested. ?I’m using mine in a K700P saw
John Adank Onalaska WI On Mar 18, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Scoring blade is clearing a clean surface and saving the junk from eating your main blade - doing its job! Oh yeah, and mitigating splintering... On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 10:20 AM mac campshure via <mac512002= [email protected]> wrote: I run 6” tapered Designing and building for 50 years ?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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Re: Scoring Blade Durability
John Adams,
I have always bought all of my main blades in pairs, this way I always have a sharp one waiting.?
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 11:03 AM, John WI <jnadank@...> wrote:
? I’ve been very satisfied with my Kanefusa main plywood blade and scoring blade. ?The cut quality has been suburb I read oak plywood as well as other species. ?The only drawback is the two blade minimum order. ?I may be interested in splitting the order if you’re interested. ?I’m using mine in a K700P saw
John Adank Onalaska WI On Mar 18, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Scoring blade is clearing a clean surface and saving the junk from eating your main blade - doing its job! Oh yeah, and mitigating splintering... On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 10:20 AM mac campshure via <mac512002= [email protected]> wrote: I run 6” tapered Designing and building for 50 years ?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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Re: Scoring Blade Durability
Imran, I have not had the issues you mention with my scoring blades. ?As far as replacements go, I have not had good experience getting the kind of scoring blade I want (two-piece with shims) from suppliers other than from Felder. ?I suggest you order from Felder.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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#rfp - Random Friday Photo - March 18, 2022
#rfp
Received this a while back and looking forward to installing it this weekend for a new set of projects with mostly sheet goods.?
I'm looking forward to the prospect of quiet and clean cuts, hopefully it does the job!?
What primary blade is in your saw right now??
Does PCD "cut it" (:-) for the price?
Happy Friday, FOG!?
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Re: Scoring Blade Durability
I’ve been very satisfied with my Kanefusa main plywood blade and scoring blade. ?The cut quality has been suburb I read oak plywood as well as other species. ?The only drawback is the two blade minimum order. ?I may be interested in splitting the order if you’re interested. ?I’m using mine in a K700P saw
John Adank
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
? Scoring blade is clearing a clean surface and saving the junk from eating your main blade - doing its job! Oh yeah, and mitigating splintering... On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 10:20 AM mac campshure via <mac512002= [email protected]> wrote: I run 6” tapered Designing and building for 50 years ?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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Re: Scoring Blade Durability
Scoring blade is clearing a clean surface and saving the junk from eating your main blade - doing its job! Oh yeah, and mitigating splintering...
On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 10:20 AM mac campshure via <mac512002= [email protected]> wrote: I run 6” tapered Designing and building for 50 years ?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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I run 6” tapered Designing and building for 50 years
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On Mar 18, 2022, at 10:09 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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?I have only had scoring blade for few yrs and only used plywood a few times. Blade came with the saw and had the dipped covering on it, as they sometimes do after sharpening.
Point is, I have cleaned it at least 3 times with very little use. It gets covered with crap (I assume adhesives) very quickly and sometimes will have burning smell but wood is not burned. Recently, on birch ply, it cut clean with no splintering, so makes me think it is not dull.
Another clue is that I can feel it pushing the material fwd at initial contact. I think I have it about 1/16” high. I use clamps most of the times and only felt this when I did some ripping recently.
If I wanted to try another blade should I get Felder offering or are there better ones.
Regards,
Imran
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On 3/17/22 10:07 PM, Mark Foster wrote: and he reground it That's what I'd do
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Forrest does make a 10" Woodworker II blade for flat bottom cuts called a #1 grind.? I have one that has a 30mm arbor and pin holes for Felder.?
I believe I purchased it online from SliversMill.com.
? ?Dennis?
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I just received a call back from Mark Gallagher at Leitz. ?I’m looking for a local shop for my sharpening needs. ?They are only minutes from me, down in Kent. ?So they are pretty good then?
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 7:50 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? I had Leitz custom grind one of their standard blades specifically for joinery work. ?I believe the up-charge was about $25 over the cost of the new blade which was about $130. ?I recommend you call?Mark Gallagher at Leitz in Kent WA (he’s the closest to you and services Boise) at??(253) 651-8977?, and tell him what you need. ?You can also email him: ? mgallagher@...
This is the specific blade I had them grind to flat-top. ?It’s 300mm diameter, with 72 teeth. ?You could reference their part number when you talk with Mark if this is the configuration you want.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
I have been looking for an FTG blade, but they are not easy to find. This would be primarily for flat-bottom cuts.
I bought a couple of Tenryu blades, but they do not offer a flat-tooth option with the right bore for a Felder.
Is it feasible or reasonable to have a saw shop re-bore my 10” blade to fit my Felder?
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I have the Ridge Carbide dado set.? I love it.? I also have their general purpose blade and dedicated rip blade (24T I think).? Great company with great quality blades.? Jeff
? Dan,
Has their dado set treated you well so far?? I was just looking at the Ridge Carbide dado set the other day.? I certainly love their TS2000 Super Combo Blade, 48 tooth.? I order it without the raker teeth.? Impressive cuts for a combo blade.
Thx,
Wade
On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:52 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? Alternatively, you can order a dado stack set as well. I have the ridge carbide dado set and you can use the outside cutters either single or doubled up for slotting work.? ? John I recently ordered the Felder silent power 14tooth blade and it comes with flat bottom teeth. It’s still on sale for $53.90 and in stock.?
Here’s their description:?For time saving rip cuts. For sizing and ripping solid woods along the grain or to slot and tenon in longitudinal direction
?I appreciate all of these replies!
I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.
The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.
My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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? Dan,
Has their dado set treated you well so far? ?I was just looking at the Ridge Carbide dado set the other day. ?I certainly love their TS2000 Super Combo Blade, 48 tooth. ?I order it without the raker teeth. ?Impressive cuts for a combo blade.
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:52 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? Alternatively, you can order a dado stack set as well. I have the ridge carbide dado set and you can use the outside cutters either single or doubled up for slotting work.? On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:45 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk via groups.io <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? John I recently ordered the Felder silent power 14tooth blade and it comes with flat bottom teeth. It’s still on sale for $53.90 and in stock.?
Here’s their description:?For time saving rip cuts. For sizing and ripping solid woods along the grain or to slot and tenon in longitudinal direction
On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:38 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?I appreciate all of these replies!
I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.
The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.
My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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John,
Have you looked at Ridge Carbide Tool company? ?Great blades as well.
Thx,
Wade
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 8:38 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?I appreciate all of these replies!
I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.
The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.
My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
This.
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Alternatively, you can order a dado stack set as well. I have the ridge carbide dado set and you can use the outside cutters either single or doubled up for slotting work.?
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On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:45 PM, Dan Gavrilyuk via groups.io <dgwoodco@...> wrote:
? John I recently ordered the Felder silent power 14tooth blade and it comes with flat bottom teeth. It’s still on sale for $53.90 and in stock.?
Here’s their description:?For time saving rip cuts. For sizing and ripping solid woods along the grain or to slot and tenon in longitudinal direction
On Mar 17, 2022, at 11:38 PM, John Hinman <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?I appreciate all of these replies!
I am not sure what you mean by fine joinery (all we do is mighty fine, right?)
The last time I bought blades was long ago, and I thought rip blades were flat-top and fewer teeth, like Jeff said. Some call a rip blade one with a steep rake angle and a deep gullet, and that describes the ATB “rip” blade I bought from Tenryu. It seems to work pretty well, although I have not done much ripping with my new saw yet.
The most demanding thing I would do with this blade is cut slots and rabbets for small box lids. I could do that with a router table, but I have done it quickly and easily with an FTG rip blade on my old cabinet saw. I’ve done channels for drawer bottoms, as well as slots/dados for door panels and larger rabbets with it also.
My old blades are all Systematic. Years ago they were supposed to be good blades, but apparently they sold out to someone who produces some poor products.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
K700S, and expecting an A941 in April 2022
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