Re: Comatic DC-40 questions
Hi Chris!?
I have a KF700SP and have found the DC40 to be a great feeder. I tried upgrading to the Smart Stand, but it was enormously heavy (even with the gas strut on the tilt bracket), and ultimately best suited to applications where it doesn't need to tilt.?
Regarding selecting voltages, you can swap jumpers to convert it to any of the three options (120V 1ph, 240V 1ph, and 240V 3ph). My memory from chatting with Kyle is that ordering it as 240V 3ph checks a box for certain customers who need a particular certification regarding the power button. I have mine configured as 240V 1ph, which allows me to use a standard (in my shop) twist lock plug, and I have plenty of 240V 1ph outlets. It's quite easy to adjust the jumpers.?
The narrow tires are a nice addition to have for certain operations.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Flip stops for F&F jig
Yes - same stuff as the link in my post. ?I find Incra stuff kinda overly designed - a solution looking for a problem. ?But to each their own.? David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Feb 8, 2022, at 5:03 PM, Jared Leach <leach.jared@...> wrote:
? David, Are these the parts you're referencing??
I've been very happy with both Incra and Lee Valley products so I might need to try them both.
I like the 1-1/2¡± tall Lee Valley flip stop and tracks. They are designed so that a 3/4¡± spoil board/backer/ZCI strip can be used with the stop, and that backer can be moved/adjusted as required.? Use instructions that illustrate this can be seen here: ??
They can be purchased here: ?
I prefer to sight down an edge to the distance tape rather than through a lens with scribe mark - less chance for parallax error. ? Or add a DRO. ? David Best - via mobile phone? ?I am planning to make a Fritz and Franz jig as soon as my new slider arrives. What do people favor for flip stops?
I would like to find stops with a cursor for a stick-on tape, if that exists. I think I saw one in a video once, but cannot find it again.
I do not have the track yet. The 80/20 Inc. extrusions are interesting, but I do not know how compatible they are with any of the flip stops. One video showed the stops being modified to fit the extrusions.
Thanks for any thoughts, or for links to information!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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Re: Flip stops for F&F jig
David, Are these the parts you're referencing??
I've been very happy with both Incra and Lee Valley products so I might need to try them both.
I like the 1-1/2¡± tall Lee Valley flip stop and tracks. They are designed so that a 3/4¡± spoil board/backer/ZCI strip can be used with the stop, and that backer can be moved/adjusted as required.? Use instructions that illustrate this can be seen here: ??
They can be purchased here: ?
I prefer to sight down an edge to the distance tape rather than through a lens with scribe mark - less chance for parallax error. ? Or add a DRO. ? David Best - via mobile phone? ?I am planning to make a Fritz and Franz jig as soon as my new slider arrives. What do people favor for flip stops?
I would like to find stops with a cursor for a stick-on tape, if that exists. I think I saw one in a video once, but cannot find it again.
I do not have the track yet. The 80/20 Inc. extrusions are interesting, but I do not know how compatible they are with any of the flip stops. One video showed the stops being modified to fit the extrusions.
Thanks for any thoughts, or for links to information!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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Re: Flip stops for F&F jig
I like the 1-1/2¡± tall Lee Valley flip stop and tracks. They are designed so that a 3/4¡± spoil board/backer/ZCI strip can be used with the stop, and that backer can be moved/adjusted as required. ?Use instructions that illustrate this can be seen here: ??
They can be purchased here: ?
I prefer to sight down an edge to the distance tape rather than through a lens with scribe mark - less chance for parallax error. ? Or add a DRO. ? David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Feb 8, 2022, at 3:28 PM, John Hinman <Jhinman1911@...> wrote:
?I am planning to make a Fritz and Franz jig as soon as my new slider arrives. What do people favor for flip stops?
I would like to find stops with a cursor for a stick-on tape, if that exists. I think I saw one in a video once, but cannot find it again.
I do not have the track yet. The 80/20 Inc. extrusions are interesting, but I do not know how compatible they are with any of the flip stops. One video showed the stops being modified to fit the extrusions.
Thanks for any thoughts, or for links to information!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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Re: Flip stops for F&F jig
I made mine with the metric versions of these front and back and have been quite happy.?
I am planning to make a Fritz and Franz jig as soon as my new slider arrives. What do people favor for flip stops?
I would like to find stops with a cursor for a stick-on tape, if that exists. I think I saw one in a video once, but cannot find it again.
I do not have the track yet. The 80/20 Inc. extrusions are interesting, but I do not know how compatible they are with any of the flip stops. One video showed the stops being modified to fit the extrusions.
Thanks for any thoughts, or for links to information!
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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Re: Comatic DC-40 questions
David,
I too have the concern with the memo function on the tilt bracket. To be clear that joint is lockable but I agree it is a bit unwieldy for the tilt bracket. Eventually, one may forget to lock the memo joint (as it is not locked in use) and that would be bad. Kyle had mentioned long time ago that a customer with tilt bracket was considering it but not sure if it actually happened.
Imran?
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On Feb 8, 2022, at 5:52 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote: ? My DC40 is reconfigurable with jumper wires for 3-phase 220V or 110V single-phase. ?Maybe something has changed, but the motor is DC, and the power supply in the feeder does the conversion. ?I know Shop Gear has a pull down selector for voltage, but that may just be a pre-configure jumper selection. ?Kyle at Shop Gear is terrific - check with him on this.
I have two smart stands ?- one on the shaper, the other on the jointer. ?The smart stand is great, but I would not want that version for a tilt-away bracket situation like on the KF700. ?With the vertical elevation post at the feeder end of the horizontal tube, you¡¯re talking serious weight to be swinging up/down safely. ? I¡¯m not even sure if the memo feature would stay locked if the stand is tilted upside down. ?If someone here has the smart stand on the KF700 tilt-away bracket, I¡¯d love to hear comments. ?A longer horizontal tube is a MUST on a KF700. ?Kyle at Shop Gear is terrific. ?I second the vote for an extra set of polyurethane tires/wheels. ?If you¡¯re willing to wait, Kyle can source one in grey instead of the s**t-brindle-brick red.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
On Feb 8, 2022, at 1:50 PM, Chris Souter < Cjsouter@...> wrote:
Getting ready to order a comatic DC-40 and had a few questions for the group.? Is shop gear the best place to order from?? Any recommendations on 110 or 220v??
Any other things to consider or accessories to go along with it?? This will be a bit of a dumb question but I am assuming that it comes with a stand if you get the normal set up and the smart stand everyone here talks about is the upgrade?? I don¡¯t think I could muster the extra cost on the smart stand since Im very much over budget on my new building. It¡¯s going on my kf700sp which I¡¯ll finally be able to commission after all the delays in building my new shop. I have the bracket with gas strut. Thanks to imran (yes it¡¯s still in the box from when you sent it)
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I am planning to make a Fritz and Franz jig as soon as my new slider arrives. What do people favor for flip stops?
I would like to find stops with a cursor for a stick-on tape, if that exists. I think I saw one in a video once, but cannot find it again.
I do not have the track yet. The 80/20 Inc. extrusions are interesting, but I do not know how compatible they are with any of the flip stops. One video showed the stops being modified to fit the extrusions.
Thanks for any thoughts, or for links to information!
--
John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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Re: Comatic DC-40 questions
My DC40 is reconfigurable with jumper wires for 3-phase 220V or 110V single-phase. ?Maybe something has changed, but the motor is DC, and the power supply in the feeder does the conversion. ?I know Shop Gear has a pull down selector for voltage, but that may just be a pre-configure jumper selection. ?Kyle at Shop Gear is terrific - check with him on this.
I have two smart stands ?- one on the shaper, the other on the jointer. ?The smart stand is great, but I would not want that version for a tilt-away bracket situation like on the KF700. ?With the vertical elevation post at the feeder end of the horizontal tube, you¡¯re talking serious weight to be swinging up/down safely. ? I¡¯m not even sure if the memo feature would stay locked if the stand is tilted upside down. ?If someone here has the smart stand on the KF700 tilt-away bracket, I¡¯d love to hear comments. ?A longer horizontal tube is a MUST on a KF700. ?Kyle at Shop Gear is terrific. ?I second the vote for an extra set of polyurethane tires/wheels. ?If you¡¯re willing to wait, Kyle can source one in grey instead of the s**t-brindle-brick red.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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On Feb 8, 2022, at 1:50 PM, Chris Souter < Cjsouter@...> wrote:
Getting ready to order a comatic DC-40 and had a few questions for the group.? Is shop gear the best place to order from?? Any recommendations on 110 or 220v??
Any other things to consider or accessories to go along with it?? This will be a bit of a dumb question but I am assuming that it comes with a stand if you get the normal set up and the smart stand everyone here talks about is the upgrade?? I don¡¯t think I could muster the extra cost on the smart stand since Im very much over budget on my new building. It¡¯s going on my kf700sp which I¡¯ll finally be able to commission after all the delays in building my new shop. I have the bracket with gas strut. Thanks to imran (yes it¡¯s still in the box from when you sent it)
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Re: Comatic DC-40 questions
Chris, Agree with others that Shopgear is the place to buy, split wheels and the smart stand are well worth it - don't forget to order the height gauge, too! It's not well known, but you can switch the motor to 110V or 220V and single phase or three phase by swapping around the inside wiring - Kyle has a guy who can show you how.? Good luck, regards Eric
Hi Chris,
Glad things are moving along. Kyle at Shop Gear is great to work with, finally met him at AWFS.
Jack is spot on get the long tube if you intend to use it on the saw. I did get that for my SmartStand on J/P.
I hear recommendations for SS but before you decide on that ask Kyle if someone has actually used it with tilt bracket. Even if it works, pucker factor will be high and you want to make sure everything is solidly locked. The only drawback of SS that I know of (besides use with tilt bracket) is that wheels cannot be 45 deg to the table - it is either horizontal or vertical. I have never had to do this yet but it might be something I end up doing on shaper and my std. stand will do so.
Imran On Feb 8, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Chris Souter < Cjsouter@...> wrote: ? Getting ready to order a comatic DC-40 and had a few questions for the group.?
Is shop gear the best place to order from??
Any recommendations on 110 or 220v??
Any other things to consider or accessories to go along with it??
This will be a bit of a dumb question but I am assuming that it comes with a stand if you get the normal set up and the smart stand everyone here talks about is the upgrade??
I don¡¯t think I could muster the extra cost on the smart stand since Im very much over budget on my new building.
It¡¯s going on my kf700sp which I¡¯ll finally be able to commission after all the delays in building my new shop. I have the bracket with gas strut. Thanks to imran (yes it¡¯s still in the box from when you sent it)
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Re: Comatic DC-40 questions
Hi Chris,
Glad things are moving along. Kyle at Shop Gear is great to work with, finally met him at AWFS.
Jack is spot on get the long tube if you intend to use it on the saw. I did get that for my SmartStand on J/P.
I hear recommendations for SS but before you decide on that ask Kyle if someone has actually used it with tilt bracket. Even if it works, pucker factor will be high and you want to make sure everything is solidly locked. The only drawback of SS that I know of (besides use with tilt bracket) is that wheels cannot be 45 deg to the table - it is either horizontal or vertical. I have never had to do this yet but it might be something I end up doing on shaper and my std. stand will do so.
Imran
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On Feb 8, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Chris Souter <Cjsouter@...> wrote: ? Getting ready to order a comatic DC-40 and had a few questions for the group.?
Is shop gear the best place to order from??
Any recommendations on 110 or 220v??
Any other things to consider or accessories to go along with it??
This will be a bit of a dumb question but I am assuming that it comes with a stand if you get the normal set up and the smart stand everyone here talks about is the upgrade??
I don¡¯t think I could muster the extra cost on the smart stand since Im very much over budget on my new building.
It¡¯s going on my kf700sp which I¡¯ll finally be able to commission after all the delays in building my new shop. I have the bracket with gas strut. Thanks to imran (yes it¡¯s still in the box from when you sent it)
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Re: Comatic DC-40 questions
I guess it's only $369. I just bought one. I'll report on it once I get it.
Bill B¨¦langer
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:19 PM Bill Belanger < Bill@...> wrote: OK< found this... Looks like about 500 bucks with shipping.
BB
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:14 PM Bill Belanger < Bill@...> wrote:
Bill, ? I couldn't get to the video.
Chris, ? The smart stand is well worth the money.
Dave Davies
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 4:05 PM Bill Belanger < Bill@...> wrote: Speaking of Comatic, For those with Facebook, check this out...
I found it very interesting.. Bill B¨¦langer
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 2:50 PM Chris Souter < Cjsouter@...> wrote: Getting ready to order a comatic DC-40 and had a few questions for the group.?
Is shop gear the best place to order from??
Any recommendations on 110 or 220v??
Any other things to consider or accessories to go along with it??
This will be a bit of a dumb question but I am assuming that it comes with a stand if you get the normal set up and the smart stand everyone here talks about is the upgrade??
I don¡¯t think I could muster the extra cost on the smart stand since Im very much over budget on my new building.
It¡¯s going on my kf700sp which I¡¯ll finally be able to commission after all the delays in building my new shop. I have the bracket with gas strut. Thanks to imran (yes it¡¯s still in the box from when you sent it)
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Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Comatic DC-40 questions
OK< found this... Looks like about 500 bucks with shipping.
BB
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:14 PM Bill Belanger < Bill@...> wrote:
Bill, ? I couldn't get to the video.
Chris, ? The smart stand is well worth the money.
Dave Davies
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 4:05 PM Bill Belanger < Bill@...> wrote: Speaking of Comatic, For those with Facebook, check this out...
I found it very interesting.. Bill B¨¦langer
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 2:50 PM Chris Souter < Cjsouter@...> wrote: Getting ready to order a comatic DC-40 and had a few questions for the group.?
Is shop gear the best place to order from??
Any recommendations on 110 or 220v??
Any other things to consider or accessories to go along with it??
This will be a bit of a dumb question but I am assuming that it comes with a stand if you get the normal set up and the smart stand everyone here talks about is the upgrade??
I don¡¯t think I could muster the extra cost on the smart stand since Im very much over budget on my new building.
It¡¯s going on my kf700sp which I¡¯ll finally be able to commission after all the delays in building my new shop. I have the bracket with gas strut. Thanks to imran (yes it¡¯s still in the box from when you sent it)
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Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Comatic DC-40 questions
Hi Chris,
If you get the 220V version, you can wire it directly to your saw. ?This eliminates an extra wire to a wall plug from the feeder. ?It also powers up the feeder when you power up the saw. ?Not need to have, but sure is convenient. ?I believe the comatic DC-40 220V feeder will work with either single or 3 phase power, though I would confirm that with the Shop Gear Rep.
I too had a good experience with Shop Gear and will purchase from them again.
Smart stand is worth the extra cash too. ?Unless you already have a stand, consider the upgrade. ?
My KF700SP is three phase 220V. ?This means the neutral conductor is not used. ?That means I can¡¯t run a 110V feeder wired directly to the saw wiring.?
Good luck,
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On Feb 8, 2022, at 1:50 PM, Chris Souter <Cjsouter@...> wrote:
? Getting ready to order a comatic DC-40 and had a few questions for the group.?
Is shop gear the best place to order from??
Any recommendations on 110 or 220v??
Any other things to consider or accessories to go along with it??
This will be a bit of a dumb question but I am assuming that it comes with a stand if you get the normal set up and the smart stand everyone here talks about is the upgrade??
I don¡¯t think I could muster the extra cost on the smart stand since Im very much over budget on my new building.
It¡¯s going on my kf700sp which I¡¯ll finally be able to commission after all the delays in building my new shop. I have the bracket with gas strut. Thanks to imran (yes it¡¯s still in the box from when you sent it)
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Re: Comatic DC-40 questions
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Bill, ? I couldn't get to the video.
Chris, ? The smart stand is well worth the money.
Dave Davies
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 4:05 PM Bill Belanger < Bill@...> wrote: Speaking of Comatic, For those with Facebook, check this out...
I found it very interesting.. Bill B¨¦langer
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 2:50 PM Chris Souter < Cjsouter@...> wrote: Getting ready to order a comatic DC-40 and had a few questions for the group.?
Is shop gear the best place to order from??
Any recommendations on 110 or 220v??
Any other things to consider or accessories to go along with it??
This will be a bit of a dumb question but I am assuming that it comes with a stand if you get the normal set up and the smart stand everyone here talks about is the upgrade??
I don¡¯t think I could muster the extra cost on the smart stand since Im very much over budget on my new building.
It¡¯s going on my kf700sp which I¡¯ll finally be able to commission after all the delays in building my new shop. I have the bracket with gas strut. Thanks to imran (yes it¡¯s still in the box from when you sent it)
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Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Comatic DC-40 questions
Bill, ? I couldn't get to the video.
Chris, ? The smart stand is well worth the money.
Dave Davies
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 4:05 PM Bill Belanger < Bill@...> wrote: Speaking of Comatic, For those with Facebook, check this out...
I found it very interesting.. Bill B¨¦langer
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 2:50 PM Chris Souter < Cjsouter@...> wrote: Getting ready to order a comatic DC-40 and had a few questions for the group.?
Is shop gear the best place to order from??
Any recommendations on 110 or 220v??
Any other things to consider or accessories to go along with it??
This will be a bit of a dumb question but I am assuming that it comes with a stand if you get the normal set up and the smart stand everyone here talks about is the upgrade??
I don¡¯t think I could muster the extra cost on the smart stand since Im very much over budget on my new building.
It¡¯s going on my kf700sp which I¡¯ll finally be able to commission after all the delays in building my new shop. I have the bracket with gas strut. Thanks to imran (yes it¡¯s still in the box from when you sent it)
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: Comatic DC-40 questions
Speaking of Comatic, For those with Facebook, check this out...
I found it very interesting.. Bill B¨¦langer
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 2:50 PM Chris Souter < Cjsouter@...> wrote: Getting ready to order a comatic DC-40 and had a few questions for the group.?
Is shop gear the best place to order from??
Any recommendations on 110 or 220v??
Any other things to consider or accessories to go along with it??
This will be a bit of a dumb question but I am assuming that it comes with a stand if you get the normal set up and the smart stand everyone here talks about is the upgrade??
I don¡¯t think I could muster the extra cost on the smart stand since Im very much over budget on my new building.
It¡¯s going on my kf700sp which I¡¯ll finally be able to commission after all the delays in building my new shop. I have the bracket with gas strut. Thanks to imran (yes it¡¯s still in the box from when you sent it)
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Re: Comatic DC-40 questions
Shop gear was great to work with. Fast shipping. No reason not to get the standard 110v unless you have a 220 outlet that¡¯s more convenient. Don¡¯t have the smart stand but I wish the had the longer horizontal tube. Get four of the split wheels. Very useful to use over the blade or left or right of it.
it¡¯s really a great feeder.
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Getting ready to order a comatic DC-40 and had a few questions for the group.?
Is shop gear the best place to order from??
Any recommendations on 110 or 220v??
Any other things to consider or accessories to go along with it??
This will be a bit of a dumb question but I am assuming that it comes with a stand if you get the normal set up and the smart stand everyone here talks about is the upgrade??
I don¡¯t think I could muster the extra cost on the smart stand since Im very much over budget on my new building.
It¡¯s going on my kf700sp which I¡¯ll finally be able to commission after all the delays in building my new shop. I have the bracket with gas strut. Thanks to imran (yes it¡¯s still in the box from when you sent it)
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Requests for public pricing:? As is, where is. $1800. Will palletize for shipping if necessary. See photos. I can send a video of machine in operation.
Ed
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Re: Loose riving knife bar on K3 Winner
Imran, thanks for sharing this, and Steve, thanks for your additional input.? I have a Hammer C3 at my home shop but haven't had any issues (2 years ownership). But I'll check it out next time I'm in that shop.? If I see anything weird, I'll share back with this group.
Also, Imran, I joined your Facebook group. I live in Houston, so not really a midwesterner, but I am really glad you started that group and are allowing us "outsiders" to join!
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Tom Gensmer
David P. Best
imran
Bill Belanger
Jack Decker
