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Re: Spindle Sander

 

Nope,

Just the 4 speeds everyone else has...? 3500 rpm is kind of high and the smallest radius is 45mm.

May be a little limited.??

Does anyone else use one?

PK


Hot press

 

Hi guys ,
Anybody seen that press in action ?
U think it’s enough pressure for veneer and preduce better quality pressure vs vacuum bag ?


Elegance Custom Cabinetry
Minneapolis, Minnesota

Regards

Dmitry Ivanovs .


Re: Spindle Sander

 

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I got format4 ?z45?
Use too using a lot since I got CNC h08 don’t use much. All curving start cutting on Cnc.?

Elegance Custom Cabinetry?
Minneapolis, Minnesota?

Regards?

Dmitry Ivanovs .

On Jan 16, 2021, at 19:56, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Dmitry,

I was warned to stay away from the sanding drum kit on shaper due to RPM being too high. Do you have variable speed on shaper?

Imran

On Jan 16, 2021, at 8:45 PM, Dmitry Ivanovs via groups.io <divanov2@...> wrote:

?Overkill !! Why not just buy head for shaper from felder different diameters. That’s what I’m using if need it?

Elegance Custom Cabinetry?
Minneapolis, Minnesota?

Regards?

Dmitry Ivanovs .

On Jan 16, 2021, at 16:08, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

?I know I am reviving an old thread, but...

I was looking at the Laguna and Delta newer floor standers as they have a trunnion tiliting mechanism so the table stays flat.? Thoughts?

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Thoughts?

PK


Re: Start Capacitor Value

 

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JM,

Thanks for the feedback. I suspect the same, i.e., label has the start cap value. Not sure why the field name “cond” - likely stands for conditioning. Not sure know what else could it be. Anyhow, I thought the person at laguna would be able to confirm on phone but no such luck, need to wait for the tech dept to respond.

Mine is a two wire leaded, without terminals. I have found similar sized ones on the sites i have ordered from before however the dia is 45mm vs 50mm. So still looking. I had checked newark but not the other site you sent so will check them out. BTW, polypropylene caps are more robust (usually specified for run caps) but I try to use them for start cap as well.

I was hoping to get a confirmation by end of day yesterday. I think it is low risk to order it based upon label value but I may wait till monday.

Imran?

On Jan 16, 2021, at 8:04 PM, jjmotzi <john.motzi@...> wrote:

?The label says 50?F (microFarads) 450V.? I needed to replace the start capacitor on my 20 year old Inca table saw earlier this year.? Slightly larger motor (2.2 kW) than what you have here, but similar.? Typically you can find replacements at Newark electronics Newark.com, or ? Mine was a 4-wire lead so I replaced with the same.? Easier to find are the 2-wire models.? Mine was a 40?F but I'll give you the links anyway to get you in the right sections of the webstores:

4-Wire Leads:

2-Wire Leads:??

I chose the model based on the correct specs but also the physical dimensions so it would mount the same way on my motor.

Hope this helps

JM


Re: Any good condition, newer K500 or combination machines out there? #forsale #wanted

 

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Look for a private msg from imranindiana.

Imran

On Jan 16, 2021, at 8:53 PM, jbowen@... wrote:

?Hi, Cleveland area but willing to drive.


Re: Spindle Sander

 

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Dmitry,

I was warned to stay away from the sanding drum kit on shaper due to RPM being too high. Do you have variable speed on shaper?

Imran

On Jan 16, 2021, at 8:45 PM, Dmitry Ivanovs via groups.io <divanov2@...> wrote:

?Overkill !! Why not just buy head for shaper from felder different diameters. That’s what I’m using if need it?

Elegance Custom Cabinetry?
Minneapolis, Minnesota?

Regards?

Dmitry Ivanovs .

On Jan 16, 2021, at 16:08, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

?I know I am reviving an old thread, but...

I was looking at the Laguna and Delta newer floor standers as they have a trunnion tiliting mechanism so the table stays flat.? Thoughts?

<Screenshot 2021-01-16 140249.png>
<Screenshot 2021-01-16 140708.png>


Thoughts?

PK


Re: Any good condition, newer K500 or combination machines out there? #forsale #wanted

 

Hi, Cleveland area but willing to drive.


Re: Spindle Sander

 

Dmitry,

Didnt know that was an option for my KF700SP that is on the way Is!? Is the fact that is is non oscillating going to make it less usable?

PK


Re: Spindle Sander

 

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Overkill !! Why not just buy head for shaper from felder different diameters. That’s what I’m using if need it?

Elegance Custom Cabinetry?
Minneapolis, Minnesota?

Regards?

Dmitry Ivanovs .

On Jan 16, 2021, at 16:08, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:

?I know I am reviving an old thread, but...

I was looking at the Laguna and Delta newer floor standers as they have a trunnion tiliting mechanism so the table stays flat.? Thoughts?



Thoughts?

PK


Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping

 

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They are part of the outer motor housing extrusion. I would check with Felder and if they are ok with it, clamp it to a solid flat surface before you install it and see if you can pull the flanges back flat without breaking anything. If it works, then it’s up to you if you want to finish installing it, if they crack, Felder will have to get you another motor, and who knows how long that will take.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 16, 2021, at 6:31 PM, annu.marwaha@... wrote:

Hey All,

I was wrong about the key. ?On closer inspection, it was not welded and just needed to be tapped in. ?Not sure if I should attempt with the Bent rails though.

-Annu


Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping

 

Hey All,

I was wrong about the key. ?On closer inspection, it was not welded and just needed to be tapped in. ?Not sure if I should attempt with the Bent rails though.

-Annu


Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping

 

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Annu, what is the frame size of the motor?? It looks like the feet are aluminum.? If steel I would just bend them back.? Aluminum might break but I'd look for a different source if the frame is a standard IEC metric motor.? I also assume the slot in the shaft is what is sloped or you could just swap or buy a new key.? I've not seen sloped keyways in a shaft so it is something new to me.? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of annu.marwaha@... <annu.marwaha@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 6:25 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping
?
Well...i'm seriously frustrated now....the new motor that was sent has a different motor shaft key than the original motor.? The new motor's key is like a ramp and the old motor's key is flat.? So now i can't fit the belt pully onto the new motor.? Additionaly, when i got the new motor off the foam padding it was sitting on in the shipping box, i realized that mounting bracklets are both bent.? so even if I could have put the pully on the motor, there was no way that I would have been able to install and allign it.? Now i will have to rerent the pallet jack and trailer to bring it home whenever Felder addresses this.? I've attached some pictures below.? In the picture of the new motor, the old motor is on the top and the new motor is on the bottom.? You can clearly see that the old motor's brackets are nice and flat and the new motor's brackets are not.? I'm assuming that they are not supposed to be like that and bent into shape during bolting.? All i want to do is relax in my workshop and make some damn furniture.....

Annu

PS...i did confirm the ground short on the original motor after I removed the wiring harness.


Re: Start Capacitor Value

 

The label says 50?F (microFarads) 450V.? I needed to replace the start capacitor on my 20 year old Inca table saw earlier this year.? Slightly larger motor (2.2 kW) than what you have here, but similar.? Typically you can find replacements at Newark electronics Newark.com, or ? Mine was a 4-wire lead so I replaced with the same.? Easier to find are the 2-wire models.? Mine was a 40?F but I'll give you the links anyway to get you in the right sections of the webstores:

4-Wire Leads:

2-Wire Leads:??

I chose the model based on the correct specs but also the physical dimensions so it would mount the same way on my motor.

Hope this helps

JM


Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping

 

Somehow I could not see it well in mail but on groupio I can see that key is ramped in the pic.

Imran


Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping

 

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Too bad. The bracket looks like AL, if that was the only item, I probably try to straighten it but key being welded is a non starter.

I have not worked with a lot of motors but I have seen the ramp on the end of key trench (perhaps due to milling) but the key sat flat and the groove on the pulley is flat.

If i understand you correctly the key projection from shaft is ramped. I am curious if that is intended or an error.

Imran

On Jan 16, 2021, at 6:51 PM, annu.marwaha@... wrote:

?Hey Imran,

the key is welded to the shaft. ?I can see the small filet weld towards the motor housing. ?The brackets are also part of the motor housing. ?I’ll have to get Felder to address it.

-Annu


Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping

 

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Hi Annu,

I feel your frustration. I am sure this is already considered but can the brackets be transferred from old to new motor?

I am not sure how the pulley is retained on the shaft but could the key be cut to the length that matches the flat portion of the slot or a new shorter key purchased. Key material is fairly common. I am assuming the new motor is designed to work with shorter key.

Imran

On Jan 16, 2021, at 6:25 PM, annu.marwaha@... wrote:

?Well...i'm seriously frustrated now....the new motor that was sent has a different motor shaft key than the original motor.? The new motor's key is like a ramp and the old motor's key is flat.? So now i can't fit the belt pully onto the new motor.? Additionaly, when i got the new motor off the foam padding it was sitting on in the shipping box, i realized that mounting bracklets are both bent.? so even if I could have put the pully on the motor, there was no way that I would have been able to install and allign it.? Now i will have to rerent the pallet jack and trailer to bring it home whenever Felder addresses this.? I've attached some pictures below.? In the picture of the new motor, the old motor is on the top and the new motor is on the bottom.? You can clearly see that the old motor's brackets are nice and flat and the new motor's brackets are not.? I'm assuming that they are not supposed to be like that and bent into shape during bolting.? All i want to do is relax in my workshop and make some damn furniture.....

Annu

PS...i did confirm the ground short on the original motor after I removed the wiring harness.
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<new motor key.jpg>
<motor comparison.jpg>


Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping

 

Well...i'm seriously frustrated now....the new motor that was sent has a different motor shaft key than the original motor.? The new motor's key is like a ramp and the old motor's key is flat.? So now i can't fit the belt pully onto the new motor.? Additionaly, when i got the new motor off the foam padding it was sitting on in the shipping box, i realized that mounting bracklets are both bent.? so even if I could have put the pully on the motor, there was no way that I would have been able to install and allign it.? Now i will have to rerent the pallet jack and trailer to bring it home whenever Felder addresses this.? I've attached some pictures below.? In the picture of the new motor, the old motor is on the top and the new motor is on the bottom.? You can clearly see that the old motor's brackets are nice and flat and the new motor's brackets are not.? I'm assuming that they are not supposed to be like that and bent into shape during bolting.? All i want to do is relax in my workshop and make some damn furniture.....

Annu

PS...i did confirm the ground short on the original motor after I removed the wiring harness.


Re: Spindle Sander

 

I know I am reviving an old thread, but...

I was looking at the Laguna and Delta newer floor standers as they have a trunnion tiliting mechanism so the table stays flat.? Thoughts?



Thoughts?

PK


Re: Turn table drawing.

 

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There are maybe 10 turntables in th UK , sods law that one of them gets listed less than an hour before I ask the question.
If had the space I would buy it and keep both, but unfortunately I don't and wont for the foreseeable future. (ever)
I have emailed the seller to see if he has the original documents for it and will wait and see.

The original plate had slots in it for BF, KFS and K type machines in multiple length variations, so its easy to get the mounting wrong.

Can work out from the pictures on ebay why its on the turntable.




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From: Bean via groups.io
Sent: ?16/?01/?2021 21:45
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Turn table drawing.

Hi,
Don't know if it is what you mean or indeed will be any help. But there is a listing on e-bay UK with a panel saw with a turntable.?
Never seen one before, but thought I would mention it.

Regards,

Mark.


Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping

Roger S
 

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This is for a three-phase but looks as if it fits what you’ve got. ?I think you can ignore it since the C3-31 has it built-in already.






On 16 Jan 2021, at 21:17, annu.marwaha@... wrote:

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Hey Roger,?

I was able to lift it with a pallet jack and a extra set of 4x4s. ?See the attached picture.

Question for the group...the new motor has six wires terminals and a ground on it instead of the 4 terminals and a ground. ?See the attached diagrams from the covers. ?On the bottom cover, what are the two blacks that seem to be their own circuit? ?Do I just leave those disconnected?

-Annu <image.jpg><image.jpg>