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Re: KF700sp and AD741 used pricing
Mike,? I would remain patient with the seller. I think in time he will sell to you. Sometimes you need to let people test the market and become frustrated/educated on reality.? What trunnion issue? Do you mean prior to the redesign in 2006-2008 to the double trunnion? I don’t know if that’s much of a flaw to be concerned about.? Patrick On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 12:50 PM Mike Barrow via <lunatuna23=[email protected]> wrote: For a lot of reasons and assistance from some amazing people on FOG, I have backed out of this deal.? The accessories and tooling are great, but the high price, age and trunnion issues make this offering good from afar, but far from good.? Unfortunately, the seller will not part out the tooling and/or accessories and prefers to sell as a package deal. ? |
Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
You've got to like the diesels.? We finally passed down our 1999 Mercedes E300 diesel to my son.? It has about 275,000 miles on it and going strong. Dave Davies On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 12:48 PM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
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Porsche makes BMW look transparent.? I'm still angry they screwed up the diesel market and too old to be comfortable in the 911.? Dave
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Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 1:41 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada ?
The base price of all things German is pretty reasonable. But they get you with the options.? Certainly that is the case with BMW.? I do lust after a T27 but the side tenon table option is in the $10K realm.
Dave Davies
On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 12:39 PM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
The base price of all things German is pretty reasonable. But they get you with the options.? Certainly that is the case with BMW.? I do lust after a T27 but the side tenon table option is in the $10K realm. Dave Davies On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 12:39 PM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
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Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
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I'd be interested in hearing about differences, pluses, minuses, and what a comparably equiped T60 and Kappa each price out as .? Martin has add on just as Felder does so an applies to applies isn't straightforward.? Dave
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Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 1:27 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada ?
That’s a pretty broad statement James. ?Having consulted with Martin on the T60 design, and owning a Kappa 400, I can confirm there are differences in the build, but making an unqualified
statement like “way better than” is hyperbole. ?Each machine has plusses and minuses. ?
David Best
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Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
开云体育That’s a pretty broad statement James. ?Having consulted with Martin on the T60 design, and owning a Kappa 400, I can confirm there are differences in the build, but making an unqualified statement like “way better than” is hyperbole. ?Each machine has plusses and minuses. ?David Best https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
Sold at?$20,800.00 CAD? plus 15% premium plus 13% tax = $ 27029 CAD = $ 21327 US. James On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 1:09 PM James Zhu via <james.zhu2=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Mantle Build Question
开云体育Imran,Here’s the drawing. ?Don’t underestimate the racking force here. ?The brackets ended up costing $150 and took 30 minutes to fabricate. David Best https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Re: Mantle Build Question
开云体育Tad, Thanks, that is a nice option to consider. I had not seen this before. I do prefer to distribute the weight on all studs available but keep this option in mind. Imran On Jan 6, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Tad Gallistel <tadg@...> wrote:
?I just ran across these hangers, the smallest would work for you: Just route a recess in the back of the mantle, screw these to the studs and drop it on. Tad
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Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
The bidding war is going strong, not a good deal at all. At US$ 22K, a Martin T-60 is way better than this Kappa 400.? James On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 12:28 PM Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:
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Re: Mantle Build Question
开云体育I just did this for a client in Bend OR - not live edge, but 8” thick with returns at the end in white rift-sawn Oak. ?We had a local fabricator make steel L-brackets that attached to the studs - 3 of them held together with flat bar in two places. ?The vertical members were 3/16" wall 1.5 x 1.5 square tube, mitered and projecting out from the wall. ?The verticals were drilled and through-bolted with carriage bolts to the studs about 2 feet long running upward from the CL of the mantle. ?This mantle projected 12” from the wall, and the L-brackets projected 10” total beyond the sheetrock. ?The GC used 2” augers to bore out for the L-brackets, and imbedded the entire mess in epoxy. ?It’s never coming down.David Best https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Re: Mantle Build Question
开云体育Brett, It seems that most brackets are meant for hollow shelfs/mantles where the size of the hollow can be controlled precisely. I thought of similar approaches to your suggestion none as clever though ? The returns on each side would really make that really challenging. I am doing this as a favor and do need to limit my time as I have too many things that still need done. I thought that we can saw off the live edge face followed by ripping thick boards from the top and bottom of the remaining log. Then recreate the log with hollow center. This likely will get rid of the most moist part of the log but there is no telling what would happen to the cut pieces once they are removed from the main log. Imran On Jan 6, 2021, at 11:06 AM, Brett Wissel <Brettwissel@...> wrote:
?If the board is truly 7.5" thick/tall I'd suggest looking into special brackets like??.? Otherwise, a clever method if the situation makes sense is to cut? the back of the board a good 1-1.5" from the back edge, and use it to mount directly to the wall with recessed anchors. Then use dominoes in an array to push the rest of the board against the mounting slice, and the piece will be impossible for the next guy to figure out how you did it once the adhesive sets and the dominoes swell. If you dry fit the dominoes beforehand like you are supposed to, you can tweak the joint line to make invisible, which shouldn't be too tough on ash given grain orientation. Fun project! |
Re: Mantle Build Question
开云体育I just ran across these hangers, the smallest would work for you:Just route a recess in the back of the mantle, screw these to the studs and drop it on. Tad
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Re: KF700sp and AD741 used pricing
For a lot of reasons and assistance from some amazing people on FOG, I have backed out of this deal. ?The accessories and tooling are great, but the high price, age and trunnion issues make this offering good from afar, but far from good. ?Unfortunately, the seller will not part out the tooling and/or accessories and prefers to sell as a package deal. ?
Back on the search and contemplating buying new. Thanks to everyone for their thoughts! -- Mike Barrow |
Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
开云体育I can help people estimate those frustrations ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michael Garrison Stuber
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 10:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada ? Plus the time to file the insurance claim when it arrives trashed . . .? :) ? -- Michael Garrison Stuber ? On 1/6/2021 9:11 AM, David Kumm wrote:
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Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
开云体育Plus the time to file the insurance claim when it arrives trashed . . .? :)
-- Michael Garrison Stuber
On 1/6/2021 9:11 AM, David Kumm wrote:
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Re: Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada
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Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 12:05 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FOG] Machinery Max: 2019-FELDER-FORMAT-KAPPA-400 - Toronto Canada ?
I hr remaining - CAD$ 14K
Imran
On Dec 30, 2020, at 11:54 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote: ?
45k CAD$ is 35K US$ based on the current exchange rate. I doubt Kappa 400 with the 12 foot sliding table would cost that much.
When I bought my KF700sp in 2016, I recall Kappa 400 was 30K+ CAD$ plus tax at that time.
James
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:46 AM Rob H <rhorton@...> wrote:
That is a nice saw. in the ad it list the price new @?FELDER Model KAPPA 400 SLIDING SAW |
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On Dec 30, 2020, at 11:54 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:
? 45k CAD$ is 35K US$ based on the current exchange rate. I doubt Kappa 400 with the 12 foot sliding table would cost that much. When I bought my KF700sp in 2016, I recall Kappa 400 was 30K+ CAD$ plus tax at that time. James On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:46 AM Rob H <rhorton@...> wrote: That is a nice saw. in the ad it list the price new @?FELDER Model KAPPA 400 SLIDING SAW |
Re: Mantle Build Question
开云体育I did 3 mantels out of large white oak timbers for our new house.? On one I used a block as described by others and it sagged a bit.? I ended up redoing that and for all three I did French cleats out of hardwood.? Once in place a thin trim screw keeps them there. I cut a recess in the back 1” deep and 3” wide for the cleat. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Brett Wissel
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 9:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Mantle Build Question ? If the board is truly 7.5" thick/tall I'd suggest looking into special brackets like??.? |
Re: Mantle Build Question
If the board is truly 7.5" thick/tall I'd suggest looking into special brackets like??.?
Otherwise, a clever method if the situation makes sense is to cut? the back of the board a good 1-1.5" from the back edge, and use it to mount directly to the wall with recessed anchors. Then use dominoes in an array to push the rest of the board against the mounting slice, and the piece will be impossible for the next guy to figure out how you did it once the adhesive sets and the dominoes swell. If you dry fit the dominoes beforehand like you are supposed to, you can tweak the joint line to make invisible, which shouldn't be too tough on ash given grain orientation. Fun project! |