Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
My AD 941 came with a PF mounting bracket installed in pre-drilled holes (I ordered it that way).? I think, as David Best has pointed out, for it to work practically, you need
to make a spacer block to get the PF high enough to clear the fence.? I haven’t mounted a PF on mine yet, but what David said is correct.? He made one for his (AD 951 or Dual 51 (not sure which one he has)), and he has posted pictures, etc.?
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On Behalf Of David Davies
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
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It will work on the AD951.? But as far as I know not the AD941
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 2:56 PM Andy Wojteczko <andy@...> wrote:
Dave you should check with John as to how he knows it will work.
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Could be, pretty sure Felder told me there was a way to do it because I asked when I bought mine.
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Mark,
? I'm pretty sure you can't mount it on the AD941.? I have one and there are access panels in that location.
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I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width
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Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?
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Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously...
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Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.?
The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)
3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard)
Variable speed (which is standard)
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941.
There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
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Dave & Marie Davies
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
You should check with Felder, they will surely know more than us...
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:56 PM, Andy Wojteczko <andy@...> wrote:
? Dave you should check with John as to how he knows it will work. Andy ? ? Could be, pretty sure Felder told me there was a way to do it because I asked when I bought mine.
On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:06 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote: ? Mark, ? I'm pretty sure you can't mount it on the AD941.? I have one and there are access panels in that location. ? I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width ? Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.? -------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously... ? Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.? The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it) 3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard) Variable speed (which is standard) ?
On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote: ?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
-- Andy Wojteczko
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
It will work on the AD951.? But as far as I know not the AD941 Dave
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 2:56 PM Andy Wojteczko < andy@...> wrote: Dave you should check with John as to how he knows it will work. Andy ? ? Could be, pretty sure Felder told me there was a way to do it because I asked when I bought mine. ? Mark, ? I'm pretty sure you can't mount it on the AD941.? I have one and there are access panels in that location. ? I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width ? Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.? -------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously... ? Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.? The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it) 3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard) Variable speed (which is standard) ?
On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote: ?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Andy Wojteczko
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Dave you should check with John as to how he knows it will work. Andy ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 3:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC? Could be, pretty sure Felder told me there was a way to do it because I asked when I bought mine.
On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:06 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote: ? Mark, ? I'm pretty sure you can't mount it on the AD941.? I have one and there are access panels in that location. ? I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width ? Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.? -------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously... ? Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.? The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it) 3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard) Variable speed (which is standard) ?
On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote: ?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
-- Andy Wojteczko
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Re: Aigner Distometer up alternative?
If you look at the topic, a lot of messages are not there, if you look at messages, they are all there. Not sure why, but no messages have been removed.
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Seems like my original post was removed along with the one to follow by Dave Davies and perhaps others. ?Strange. ?
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Dave, not sure. I would call service to see if it’s possible. Someone told me that I could do it before I bought it and I think even after when I was going to upgrade to the 951 after the 941 debacle.?
Even if you can’t simply drill holes and mount it as the removable cover for the hinge might be in the way (looks like there is enough space to the right of that cover though). Something could easily fab’d up, maybe thats what Felder was telling me, didn’t investigate further than that.?
Let us know what u find out , would be interesting to find out if Felder was blowing smoke...
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:13 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
? Mark, ? I couldn't find the mount on their e-shop.? Do you have a part number? Thanks, Dave Davies Could be, pretty sure Felder told me there was a way to do it because I asked when I bought mine. ? Mark, ? I'm pretty sure you can't mount it on the AD941.? I have one and there are access panels in that location. Dave Davies I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width ?
Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?
-------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously... AD41 silent cutter? Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.? Powerdrive The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)
AD951 Silent cutter 3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard) Powerdrive Variable speed (which is standard) 3 piece guard On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
I’ve heard of some folks buying stuff related to metal working and it’s all been re-badged Chinese units, quality is suspect to say the least. I haven’t heard that they don’t support you, but then I haven’t paid that much attention. I try to do my best to not spend money in China...
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Bill Bélanger < Bllblngr@...> wrote:
Thanks for that Brian. It does look quite impressive though. I wonder about the accuracy. My AD941 is spot on for thickness.
Bill Belanger? On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:43 PM Brian Lamb < blamb11@...> wrote: Chinese imports with the Baileigh name on them. Wouldn’t be my choice at any price.
Hello,
I am about ready to pull the trigger on a AD941.? Then I see that this Baileigh beast is on sale for less than the quote I got for the AD941.? This unit does not require a switch over and has a power drive mech like an AD951.
Thoughts on Baileigh?
Paul
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Mark, ? I couldn't find the mount on their e-shop.? Do you have a part number? Thanks, Dave Davies
Could be, pretty sure Felder told me there was a way to do it because I asked when I bought mine. ? Mark, ? I'm pretty sure you can't mount it on the AD941.? I have one and there are access panels in that location. Dave Davies I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width ?
Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?
-------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously... AD41 silent cutter? Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.? Powerdrive The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)
AD951 Silent cutter 3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard) Powerdrive Variable speed (which is standard) 3 piece guard On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Could be, pretty sure Felder told me there was a way to do it because I asked when I bought mine.
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:06 PM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
? Mark, ? I'm pretty sure you can't mount it on the AD941.? I have one and there are access panels in that location. Dave Davies I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width ?
Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?
-------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously... AD41 silent cutter? Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.? Powerdrive The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)
AD951 Silent cutter 3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard) Powerdrive Variable speed (which is standard) 3 piece guard On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Mark, ? I'm pretty sure you can't mount it on the AD941.? I have one and there are access panels in that location. Dave Davies
I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width ?
Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?
-------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously... AD41 silent cutter? Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.? Powerdrive The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)
AD951 Silent cutter 3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard) Powerdrive Variable speed (which is standard) 3 piece guard On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
My point is you don't have to drill the holes no panels to alter/replace as its designed for the machine.
I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width ?
Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?
-------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously... AD41 silent cutter? Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.? Powerdrive The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)
AD951 Silent cutter 3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard) Powerdrive Variable speed (which is standard) 3 piece guard On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
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I believe i was told that you can mount the same bracket on the ad941, would need to drill the holes. chassis is the same except for the width
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:45 PM, jmkserv@... wrote:
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Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?
-------- Original message -------- From: Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously... AD41 silent cutter? Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.? Powerdrive The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)
AD951 Silent cutter 3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard) Powerdrive Variable speed (which is standard) 3 piece guard On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Another plus with the AD951 is the ability, with the optional mounting bracket to add a Power Feeder.?
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-------- Original message -------- From: Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> Date: 2020-07-28 2:35 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously... AD41 silent cutter? Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.? Powerdrive The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)
AD951 Silent cutter 3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard) Powerdrive Variable speed (which is standard) 3 piece guard On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Sang, I was speaking from experience on AD941 - AD951 about $3500, is true though need to ask to get an accurate quote obviously... AD41 silent cutter? Single phase 4hp i think ?(Whatever is the standard.? Powerdrive The 3piece guard (which I don’t think they say is standard on the web but they include it)
AD951 Silent cutter 3p 7.5 hp i think (Whatever is the standard) Powerdrive Variable speed (which is standard) 3 piece guard
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Sang Luu <sangluu@...> wrote:
?I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
I don't think it's correct to blanket assume you will get 951 standard options that would otherwise be options on the 941. There are a lot of options on the 951 so I would simply just ask the rep to help guide your decision. They have the pricing structure, which none of us have.?
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Paul, I have found that if you get close to maxing out options on one level of machine that jumping to the next level standard build or at least same options +1 isn’t that big of a jump dollar wise...
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:11 PM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:
?David,
That is why I was curious.? The AD941 with the options I want is about the same price as the Baileigh.? My 951 question is based on current discounts and the fact that I wont need any options on a AD951.
Paul
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
David,
That is why I was curious.? The AD941 with the options I want is about the same price as the Baileigh.? My 951 question is based on current discounts and the fact that I wont need any options on a AD951.
Paul
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Re: Aigner Distometer up alternative?
I see 6 messages on this post. Bill Belanger?
Seems like my original post was removed along with the one to follow by Dave Davies and perhaps others.? Strange. ?
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
I thought Baleigh was Taiwan, at least on their big stuff but that may be wrong.? The design is interesting though.? Looks more like the Hoffmann where the tables don't flip up but the planer bed is very long.? The quality of the execution is what I'd want
to know.? What is the grind tolerance of the 98" tables, is there a second outfeed drive roller, chipbreaker, and pressure bar.? At 11K it could be an option if the build is as good as the paint job.? Can the 941 be had for close to 11K ?? Dave
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Thanks for that Brian. It does look quite impressive though.
I wonder about the accuracy. My AD941 is spot on for thickness.
Bill Belanger?
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:43 PM Brian Lamb < blamb11@...> wrote:
Chinese imports with the Baileigh name on them. Wouldn’t be my choice at any price.
Hello,
I am about ready to pull the trigger on a AD941.? Then I see that this Baileigh beast is on sale for less than the quote I got for the AD941.? This unit does not require a switch over and has a power drive mech like an AD951.
Thoughts on Baileigh?
Paul
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Re: Aigner Distometer up alternative?
Seems like my original post was removed along with the one to follow by Dave Davies and perhaps others. ?Strange. ?
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Sang Luu
PK
Bill Belanger