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Re: Morso guillotine question
patrick walsh
Yes please, no rush though im jut trying to calculate my lines and compressor sizing. I think i should be good for what i need with the 4hp 20gal California and 3/4 main lines.?
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3/4 drops 3/8 or 1/4?? Only going through all this again?as i may purchase a compressor also in the near future and just put this phase of my on going shop bu?ld behind me. I started thinking more long term and realised that i think the Martin saw wants air for something. That being the case i figurd i had better size everything to what i foresee down the road. Sure i could always change or add a line this or that. The facts are im to busy working to go back and redo somethig later. Its also not very cost wffective to do things twice like undersize my compressor then take amloss selling it to?purchase another. On the other hand running a larger than needed compressor will also waste electricity so..... On Sunday, February 5, 2017, John Kee jmkserv@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: Morso guillotine question
patrick walsh
David i got a message "error occured during download".
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Could you try and re post Thank you, On Sunday, February 5, 2017, 'david@bestservices IMAP 2' david@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: Mirka Ceros the whole kit
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýUnfortunately in my world Makita and Dewalt aren't even a consideration for sanders. I use alot of Makita but won't own Dewalt for love nor money. ?I've been using Festool sanders for 9 years now without issue and currently have 6 I use regularly. I ?tried many including Mirka and Bosch. Taking the Mirka warning or don't I really don't care but when 3 different dealers I ?know tell me the same thing I have a tendency to take their advice.? John JMK Services? -------- Original message --------
From: "ianparkesy@... [felder-woodworking]" <felder-woodworking@...> Date: 2017-02-05 7:04 PM (GMT-05:00) To: felder-woodworking@... Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Mirka Ceros the whole kit ? mirka deros is great , mine works hard every day and is 2 years old now . so much lighter and easier to use than anything else out there . I had 2 makita random orbit before , they lasted well but were too heavy for anything but flat sanding on the bench . as for festool i can not see the value your just paying for the name as far as i can see. have had a few festool tools but dewalt and makita was better? |
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Re: Mirka Ceros the whole kit
mirka deros is great , mine works hard every day and is 2 years old now . so much lighter and easier to use than anything else out there . I had 2 makita random orbit before , they lasted well but were too heavy for anything but flat sanding on the bench . as for festool i can not see the value your just paying for the name as far as i can see. have had a few festool tools but dewalt and makita was better?
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Re: Morso guillotine question
On the Martin that interests you, yes, the table saw will need pneumatic for the rip fence to move. ?Very little air needed. ?I highly recommend the Mac air clamps to go with that. ?On the shaper, no air unless you get the feature of tool free spindle changes.
On the Morso, I looked at that but just bought the Kreg and will consider Morso only if unhappy when I start to use the Kreg. If considering a Martin contact Scott Slater. |
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Re: Morso guillotine question
David shows what he has setup, on the units from Felder you don't see the cylinder. I have some pics somewhere if your interested. John On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 6:16 PM, patrick walsh pwalsh651@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: Mirka Ceros the whole kit
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYou have to buy Festool if you want it all integrated and a place to store the hose. I know your not a fan but they have exactly what you want. Watch them Mirka sanders, I've talked to 3 different dealers and they all said have had a lot of issues with all the models costing them a lot of money. It's seems they don't like to stand behind there product. You can take the info for what it's or just consider it heresay.? John JMK Services? -------- Original message --------
From: "Cliff rohrabacher@... [felder-woodworking]" <felder-woodworking@...> Date: 2017-02-05 1:01 PM (GMT-05:00) To: felder-woodworking@... Subject: [felder-woodworking] Mirka Ceros the whole kit ? I got a Mirka a while back when I restored my large living room. It was |
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Re: Morso guillotine question
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Re: Morso guillotine question
patrick walsh
So what when i power the machine down it sneds a signal and moves the brushes over the filter or something like that.
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On Sunday, February 5, 2017, John Kee jmkserv@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: Morso guillotine question
On the RL160 its just an air cylinder that moves the brushes back and forth when the machine is shutdown. On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Luckensmeyer David dhluckens@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: Morso guillotine question
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If the receiver happens to be near 140psi when the cleaning cycle kicks in, then the compressor does not have to supplement the receiver. Under 130psi, and enough air is used to require a receiver top up.? Also, there is a distinct difference in the cleaning "power" of the RL cleaning system at high pressures versus lower pressures. This is anecdotal only, but the cleaning system is much louder (bang bang!) at those higher pressures.? Without a big receiver, you're going to need a fairly biggish system to keep up with the RL250s air needs. IMHO.? Warm regards, David Lucky |
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Re: Morso guillotine question
patrick walsh
The clean reliable or repeatable cut is what I am after. I am about a third of the way into a pretty darn nice beaded kitchen build. I opted to go the hunched route and to date have been using one of the Keg bits in my Festool router table with the sliding table attachment. I went ahead and made a fence with a scale as to get repeatable cuts on it.
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After all that it is pretty good but only pretty good. There is a bit of flex in the Festool sliding table so if not very careful the cut can end up slightly off. Im not ok with prtty good. I expect my work to be near of not perfect.? Also to be considered is work flow. The Kreg setup requires the material to be hunched first then beaded. For reasons to leangthy to get into this is less than ideal for workflow reasons. It would be much more easy to have a bunch of beaded stock then bead as needed.? Glad to hear the machines work as well as the YouTube videos indicate. Now i just need to figure out how small and wide?of frame stock i can work with on the machines. For instance if doing a intermidiate rail what is the smallest stock i can work with.? On Sunday, February 5, 2017, mac campshure mac512002@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: Morso guillotine question
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThey make a nice clean cut.? I had a foot operated pull saw that was very nice under the table old old.? Also an over the table pull saw fixed at 45 with air clamps that was great for stoping glass German of course. martin/campshure/co/llc 608-824-0023?fax Designing and building for 47 years On Feb 5, 2017, at 3:10 PM, patrick walsh pwalsh651@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: Morso guillotine question
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe California air 4hp looks like a nice unit.? My Ingersal Rand 2 stage cast iron heads claps a little when it is 40 ?or under in the Shop which is a lot of the time around here but it is in an industrial sight so nobody cares if it is load. If it was at my house my wife would pam martin/campshure/co/llc 608-824-0023?fax Designing and building for 47 years On Feb 5, 2017, at 3:08 PM, patrick walsh pwalsh651@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: Morso guillotine question
patrick walsh
On the Morso topic Mac you make a good argument for a manual unit as apposed to pneumatic. I did not even think of that. I clearly thought of the guillotine affect just not combined with air.
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On Sunday, February 5, 2017, patrick walsh <pwalsh651@...> wrote: I figured all this stuff took next to no air. My guess is most just reqire a quick shot of air then the air cylinders hold the pressure. |
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Re: Morso guillotine question
patrick walsh
I figured all this stuff took next to no air. My guess is most just reqire a quick shot of air then the air cylinders hold the pressure.
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The exception may be the filter cleaning option for the RL units. The tool or machine lover in me is tempted by a old iron 2 stage big horepower compressor, or new. On the other hand. I dont think i need that and a whisper quiet California air unit is probbaly all i need and my ears and "DOGS" will greatly appreciate it. Seems like the 4hr 20 gallon California Air?unit is more than enough for me. On Sunday, February 5, 2017, mac campshure mac512002@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: Morso guillotine question
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI have back in the 70 s owned a Danish pneumatic chopper . To actuate it had 2 switches one on either side of the machine as long as all worked it was scary but fine but every ounce in a while a micro would stick and it would start slamming up and down we are talking about ?two 8" long knifes coming down at 45 degree shear cut it still make s my butt pucker to this day. ? Air clamps take little of nothing. Any thing that will blast out air continuously is going to require mor cfm.? Dave Kumm has some nice pneumatic blast gates made ?in WI maybe he can chime in. Mac,,, martin/campshure/co/llc 608-824-0023?fax Designing and building for 47 years On Feb 5, 2017, at 2:35 PM, apbt1976@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Morso guillotine question
Anyone ever use one for beaded face frames. If so i have a few questions before i take a long drive and or waste my time and money. I was also going to start a pneumatic blast gate topic. The more important issue at the moment is the Morso machine but why clog up the forum with two threads. We all get these emails so im sure the thread will get read top to bottom by most. Anyone use the pnuematic blast gates and have any thoughts to offer. Also inwould like to get my single phase RL setup to remote start or some kind or setup so im not walking back and forth across my shop all day. Felder has auto start units for single phase machines now. I feel like a read something negative about them recently though? The pneumatic blast gate question is inline with my last thread asking about plumbing air lines. I started thinking long and hard about my future air needs with regard CFM and not over or under sizing my lines or compressor.? Long term i could see the use for air as goes. Air clamps, nail guns, blast gates, filter cleaning of the RL. I will also add a brand new Martin slider TS and shaper to my shop, maybe a widebelt. Im not sure any of these machines need or can be outfited to air. Like if i get the Martin T75 Prex and i get the lubrication function for cutting metal does that operate off compressed air? If so what kind of PSI and CFM is required. Even the Morso machine can be had with a pneumatic option.? |
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Mirka Ceros the whole kit
Cliff
I got a Mirka a while back when I restored my large living room. It was great. I've used it a lot since.
I did the gorilla hose thing to make the power cord and vacuum hose all one unit and that is a real improvement. Too bad they didn't make them unified at design. But it's still a bear to put away The hose has to be coiled and there's nothing on the vacuum unit that is designed to accommodate the hose and sander head. I never liked the transformer location because of the on off switch location. It's as if these parts were all brought together from different suppliers with nary a thought about integration. YA gotta reach around back and fiddle with the transformer switch, then to the front for the main switch. Any one figured out how to bring it all together into a smoother unit with the switches all facing the front side a place to coil the hose and a rest for the power head? I know, it'll be crickets. |
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Re: For Sale: FY 2000, KF700; AD731; FB540; Oneida DC - Fresno, CA
I have a 10MB zip file with scans of the factory spec sheets showing specs and all included accessories. The zip file also includes photos of all equipment except for the D/C. Please email me at pgopinath AT comcast DOT net and I will be happy to share this.
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